ben_vulpes: (lawsky)
ben_vulpes: cazalla: "per se"
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: whole world, really
ben_vulpes: bright folks are easily deluded outside their areas of competence
ben_vulpes: they do enjoy themselves, and the USG keeps otherwise brilliant and hardworking people from being useful at large.
ben_vulpes: ('safe-by-construction', 'correct-by-construction' - as asciilifeform points out time and time again, these are impossibilities).
ben_vulpes: "we need safe-by-construction computers in this application. here's 10M."
ben_vulpes: poor children, unable to comprehend the world for themselves without someone there instructing them on what to parse from the atoms a-knocking.
ben_vulpes: "no economists".
ben_vulpes: "too volatile".
ben_vulpes: tellingly, none of them will touch btc.
ben_vulpes: this is the "curse of the cool problem" that these over-educated CS people must endure. cannot simply work in salt mines, 'cause inadequately intellectually fulfilling. instead, sell soul to devil, lie about it to self for the duration of life.
ben_vulpes: just pick up a gun and be done with it, ye hypocritical nerds
ben_vulpes: "it's different somehow if we write 'pure' code to do flight path planning", never mind that the flight paths are for killing
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'insta-zap' this reminds me of the poor, self-deluding fuckers who work at a defense contractor client of mine. "it's different somehow if there's a *camera* on the flying robot", never mind that the algo's to point a gun are a quadratic estimation away from the algos to lock a camera
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << notrly, only 187.5, 375, 750 1.5 and those fuck off big custom ones
ben_vulpes: surprised me too
ben_vulpes: i'm too poor for that shit. have you seen the books?
ben_vulpes: what btc?
ben_vulpes: brutal ones.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i'm expecting audits.
ben_vulpes waves too
ben_vulpes: jurov, mircea_popescu, bounce: the state-machine generator Ragel's p. useful for reason-about-able parsing
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> hickasthieves << lol there's your new mobile handle, thickasthieves
ben_vulpes: lol Vexual you're asking for a divide by zero
ben_vulpes: once upon a time i wanted to leave a hole upon disappearing
ben_vulpes: the more i think about it, the less visible i want to be
ben_vulpes: or qnben for max SEO bombs
ben_vulpes: i should change my name to gben vulpes
ben_vulpes: ah that's rich
ben_vulpes: <xinxi> hey, I need a market maker for my site. << jurov, thickasthieves, although marketmaking options is playing with hot hot fire
ben_vulpes: deeds demo?
ben_vulpes: real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess
ben_vulpes: oh wait it's bezzle MIT
ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT
ben_vulpes: log works for me
ben_vulpes: work computer vs personal
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for.
ben_vulpes: i hate this thing.
ben_vulpes: and still unpatched.
ben_vulpes: people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer.
ben_vulpes: they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office.
ben_vulpes: fuck wifi enabled printers.
ben_vulpes: chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality.
ben_vulpes: and also where
ben_vulpes: davout: how've you been?
ben_vulpes: today i buy metal halides to light the office, because flourescents are the root of all evil.
ben_vulpes: ditch freenode when
ben_vulpes: ;;ud garburator
ben_vulpes: http://www.metmuseum.org/research/metpublications/Art_and_the_Empire_City_New_York_1825_1861 << tonight's reading
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what to expect << i expect nothing, and so to be pleasantly surprised. is this a contradiction?
ben_vulpes: can't tell if light logs or light fiatcorp workload
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> o look... i made a pun! << had to look twice
ben_vulpes: 2330?
ben_vulpes: aw c'mon nubbins` it's only what 1130?
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> sindy lopper << sindy loper << a+++ would boot again
ben_vulpes: IN GODS EYE
ben_vulpes: maybe a spec
ben_vulpes doesn't even know if that's possible
ben_vulpes: btcd on templeos
ben_vulpes: no srsly we run templeos in production
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
ben_vulpes: ;P
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: spec for carving kiwis, or a zealotous os?
ben_vulpes: templeos is esoteric enough to have slipped his radar
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: for all his sin-sistience, mircea_popescu does miss things in the logs
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> im kinda curious what the mix of computer programming and neoprotestant fervor will yield. << have you met TempleOS yet?
ben_vulpes: joke in url
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web03/2010/2/16/13/how-to-prepare-a-kiwi-16649-1266343361-28.jpg
ben_vulpes: you still around, PinkPosixPXE?
ben_vulpes: !up PinkPosixPXE
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> !up PinkPosixPXE << now this is one of the better handle's i've seen lately
ben_vulpes: how can i dissipate max energy with other people's public keys, i ask you
ben_vulpes: hey this is the wrong kind of dac for this channel
ben_vulpes: ^
ben_vulpes: it was either going to be you or mircea_popescu, asciilifeform :P
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> proof of infection << now i want a coin with proof of infraction
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: WOO HOO HOO HOO WEBAPPS AND SOCIAL MEEEEDYA
ben_vulpes: antici....
ben_vulpes: my naive schoolby wonder should be a thing of joy for you jaded internet fags
ben_vulpes: hey i'm an insulated american't
ben_vulpes: oh shit
ben_vulpes: ^^ this is a thing?!?
ben_vulpes: > pepperspray balls
ben_vulpes: > paintball gun
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: irssi's okay. wacky wacky architecture tho.
ben_vulpes: plus extensible with stallisp
ben_vulpes: works for me
ben_vulpes: erc
ben_vulpes: i fess up to emacs
ben_vulpes: one of the neater rocket fuels around
ben_vulpes: PeterL: red fuming nitric oxide
ben_vulpes: it's even a good idea (tm)!
ben_vulpes: it's totally possible! we should totally do it!
ben_vulpes: ninjashogun, PeterL: I know! let's build a rocket with RFNO!
ben_vulpes: no execution around, nope.
ben_vulpes: bitbet, mpex, qntra, war of life...
ben_vulpes: ;;google sabre engine
ben_vulpes: after all, all he needs is capital and then the magic will happen!
ben_vulpes: if the brits can do it, why can't ninjashogun?
ben_vulpes: hey why not an air-breathing mach-5 vehicle?
ben_vulpes: ninjashogun: a solar plane?!
ben_vulpes: god i love qntra
ben_vulpes: leadership, as they say, starts at 6.
ben_vulpes: anyways, sleep beckons and i gotta be on point for the boys next week.
ben_vulpes: watershed, dorp.
ben_vulpes: ;;google bull run reservoir
ben_vulpes: ah, fy google
ben_vulpes: ;;google bull run
ben_vulpes: quite literally, decimation. our hill is so high that our water supply flows from it.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you live in the heart of the beast. i live in the heart of cascadia. our worlds are light years apart.
ben_vulpes: i know a few tricks, that's about all.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: high praise, not deserving
ben_vulpes: ofc i have to book the withdrawal as "profit", but...
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pay with cash, get discount as merchants don't report cash intake and don't pay cc processing fees.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, she asks me for credit
ben_vulpes: actually mircea_popescu this is why i don't carry cash. all of my local providers know who i am and extend me credit at my request.
ben_vulpes: decimation: more likely to run a tab with your local providers, as I do.
ben_vulpes: roll with cash in the states, get robbed by cops.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and i've not carried cash routinely since i stopped doing that thing that entailed always carrying cash. so?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bad bezzlar!
ben_vulpes: i have a healthy relationship with my cab co's and they don't lock the door on me
ben_vulpes: actually i should say
ben_vulpes: and we have a functioning economy, so cabbies don't lock the door
ben_vulpes: you can even derp your card in before the trip ends to expedite egress from vehicle
ben_vulpes: in pdx that shit starts up muted
ben_vulpes: the NYC version is really awesome, what with rebooting into "LOUD MODE"
ben_vulpes: i'm familiar with those too, Adlai
ben_vulpes: not you, Adlai
ben_vulpes: 100/D in nyc?
ben_vulpes: pfwat
ben_vulpes: noooo
ben_vulpes: that's a bit strong
ben_vulpes: but love?
ben_vulpes: i mean you pay them, they go places, it's a simple exchange
ben_vulpes: portland already wants me to sort my compostables for them
ben_vulpes: will be?
ben_vulpes: but the 'choclatier' next door was always the wackness
ben_vulpes: that shoe store on 14th is p cool
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: also the giant wall of black slush during snowfalls
ben_vulpes: the great wall of garbage once per week was pretty cool
ben_vulpes: actually no hang on
ben_vulpes: how can one love anything about nyc
ben_vulpes: good god how
ben_vulpes: ahhhh-merica.
ben_vulpes misses the good stuff
ben_vulpes: 'cept that pyrex doesn't shatter when dropped.
ben_vulpes: decimation: so as to not just crack when over-stressed, but to rupture catastrophically!
ben_vulpes: decimation: and not just plate, but pre-stressed plate!
ben_vulpes: half the time it's entirely on purpose, as the thing was never built for use outside delicate programmer hands.
ben_vulpes: refrain is: "BEN SMASH"
ben_vulpes: the office has dubbed me the {{oaf,hulk}}
ben_vulpes: i'm content with being the dish-breaker and singer of things around these parts.
ben_vulpes: sounds like fun, at a distance, and on someone else's bill.
ben_vulpes: see also "mote in gods eye" "gripping hand"
ben_vulpes: known for the "not a bad premise" book
ben_vulpes: niven yo
ben_vulpes: hijinks ensue.
ben_vulpes: book features an extraordinarily clumsy girl who is also extremely lucky.
ben_vulpes: this leads to a breeding of the populace for luck
ben_vulpes: one of the more entertaining devices is the human "birth lotto"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever read ringworld?
ben_vulpes: no no you train them to cook *for* you.
ben_vulpes: color me unconvinced.
ben_vulpes: refract through thigh flesh?
ben_vulpes: ain't no training going to fix that kind of stupid
ben_vulpes: not that you get the energy back from putting them up high...
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> they can move to usa and massage machines, yes. << bashed
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> well there's always a cab in ny...
ben_vulpes: some must learn by pissing on the fence themselves, and we call them...
ben_vulpes: ah yes ty asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: some people must learn by watching and we call them X; some people learn by reading and we call them Y...
ben_vulpes: i'm trying to remember myself
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what were your categories again? "learning by watching" "learning by reading" ...
ben_vulpes noticed no phase change
ben_vulpes: when do i become an adult?
ben_vulpes: "beatings, frequently", is probably the best advice i've ever gotten.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i think a vanishingly small minority of parents actually adds value through parenting. << the "how to parent well" resources are well drowned in noise
ben_vulpes: damn ninjashogun you can't even be arsed to use the convenient logsearch?
ben_vulpes: text action
ben_vulpes: <xanthyos> any open source CAD apps? << pretend to be a student, download Inventor
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: remember mircea_popescu's 'unique url' theories?
ben_vulpes: brenschluss
ben_vulpes: further research indicates there was actually onboard control.
ben_vulpes: if i recall correctly, japan's orbital vehicle got into orbit with no onboard control, just a gravity turn.
ben_vulpes: in the classic sense of the word, though.
ben_vulpes: they had plenty of computers back then!
ben_vulpes: "sims"
ben_vulpes: low fidelty, but helps with bounds.
ben_vulpes: you can do some amount of trajectory planning by hand, too.
ben_vulpes: c'est possible
ben_vulpes: i suspect trajectory planning had lots of sims run. fuel combinations, maybe a few.
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: i never got a good answer on how much monte carlo work went into the 60's space programs during the design phase and how much was back of the envelope estimating.
ben_vulpes: the tradeoff is that the higher up the ergodic chain you go, the more little things cause your whole stack to go kaboom.
ben_vulpes: well hang on
ben_vulpes: that is indeed the tradeoff.
ben_vulpes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow << my heroes
ben_vulpes: thing never fired, 'cause derp.
ben_vulpes: not really a well engineered solution at the end of the day.
ben_vulpes: silver cats.
ben_vulpes: muchly referenced throughout corante. required reading for anyone interested in rocket fuels.
ben_vulpes: Ignition!'s a lively read.
ben_vulpes: are you reading Ignition! or Corante?
ben_vulpes: docker rules
ben_vulpes: "don't keep your timesheet up to date? no paychecks."
ben_vulpes: csv export -> payroll company uploader
ben_vulpes: should save 4 days per month of collating and tabulating timesheets into invoices for clients.
ben_vulpes: realtime resource tracking across all projects
ben_vulpes: we implemented continuous bookkeeping this week
ben_vulpes inspects for lethal toxins
ben_vulpes: "nothing, you're just awesome."
ben_vulpes: "what'd i do to deserve this?!"
ben_vulpes: today one of the contractors gave *me* a joint
ben_vulpes: i live in a weird parallel universe
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust luke-jr theymos
ben_vulpes: it'll percolate through the mud
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot xiando
ben_vulpes: pahahaha what the hell
ben_vulpes: more hassle on their end, an email on BingoBoingo's.
ben_vulpes: cazalla: considered emailing the defense for the unadulterated text?
ben_vulpes: the only language adequate to replace c++ for btc dev
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
ben_vulpes: ya i was surprised ;)
ben_vulpes: "don't denominate the btc in usd, and vice versa"
ben_vulpes: no, i'm just trying to not watch the markets.
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: i'm trying the taleb approach to noise reduction
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so it turns out deedbot got haxed. << deets?
ben_vulpes: "9 women, 1 month"
ben_vulpes: ^^
ben_vulpes: 'course to leverage that, you gotta use the thing everywhere. makes it hard for the polyglot shop.
ben_vulpes: imposes this floor on hire quality, reduces need to hire as rapidly.
ben_vulpes: marginal hires have a hard time hacking it in lisp shops.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-10-2014#866880 << never thought i'd see the day mircea_popescu suggested government intervention on anything
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: "sarah lawrence: where the girls become women and the boys do too"
ben_vulpes: quelle suprise
ben_vulpes: people are learning
ben_vulpes: though the causal relationship is a little murky to me
ben_vulpes: o ya :D