(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd like my bw back plz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is the variety speak not an adequate filter anymore?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how can one tell how long a party'd been reading the logs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: client *commits* to *master*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seeing merge conflicts in client code makes me more comfortable with my rates
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind << welcome to assets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh guys guys i found the worst thing ever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lisp is lisp and datomic is a persistant prologish fact store with time built in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: there's really not much similarity between js/lisp and mongo/datomic
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol "the alpha board"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no, it's definitely a prayer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PUA lulzatron: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/time-for-a-false-rape-accuser-registry/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for API's we use liberator, which neatly takes all of the functions in a namespace and turns them into rest-y endpoints
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: clojure's mostly libs, less frameworks. the stack we use is http-kit for serving web apps, and datomic on postgres for data persistence.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (side note Adlai, clojurescript makes frontend almost endurable)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PE will want to see revenues tho, unless the IPO is a juggernaut and the public markets are going to get taken hard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and contracts are structured in equity-holders benefit, and not as a raping tool for VCs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: equity is liquid far in advance of IPOs, if you have enough and know PE.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "also, i got tired of being asked what color my lamborghini was."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "well you can take your dollar down the 7-11 and buy a Keno ticket, or you can take your LIFE SAVINGS/4 of your best-performing years to the startup roulette wheel..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: potential client asked me about my startuplandia cynicism last night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: equity is a gamble...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or good negotiator
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lucky fuck
(trilema) ben_vulpes looks around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm only a member of one cult of personality, and it ain't hickey's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my what now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: various API's, toy BTC tools for myself, a webapp here and there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i clojure, for the same reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think the switching costs from py/whatever -> clojure are a little lower than to the common lisp families
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <******> also lisp is perfect and I have wasted 10 years
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Adlai: from another chan where i've been pounding on about lisp:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suspect pythongs are going to resist a cl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any good?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mnope.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's no cl, but it's nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes chants "clojure, clojure" quietly and repeatedly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lisping commonly?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the new gig, Adlai?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !b 1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thats just 'poor engineering'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey retard isn't pc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "conserve, comrade"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: california is apparently notifying water users of "wasteful status"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (which - i ain't sharing details - are pretty good)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: despite my best bezzlefforts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a pauperized american lout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yes well i'm but an american lout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean its dingy as fuck but mebbe if i work really hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my golden age is today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xdotcommer back around eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: provided you've seen them in action i imagine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform you've an admirable appreciation of their byzantine mindset
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ofc, bureaucrats
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah libre cover
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google papers please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how would anyone in here know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> USSA low on coins to short? << so drama
(trilema) ben_vulpes: winter is coming
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obvious distancing job is obvious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ayup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is that davout's thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no more penguirker either, eh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who/what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i pet who i want thickasthieves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sweaty petting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: petting generally leads to fucking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like warrant transfer :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pet the sweaty things and don't sweat the petty things?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's why bring .bait back
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b-a: srs bzns
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just curious yo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust wangxinxi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ident xinxi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p. sure everyone in here does that pretty regularly for their own projects.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was he on your case for plugging your site?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol what was going on there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: baww that's a shame
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mill chatter? bed complain? hammer crack?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl should squeal, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i dunno man i expect my tools to stand up to abuse
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why should the bed make sounds?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *everyone loses focus*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *mid-bed leg bends slightly, overcomes static friction, jitters across floor*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and now the damn thing squeaks abominably during any vigorous motion
(trilema) ben_vulpes: put it on felt pads for ease of moving and cleaning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news, i rigidified my bed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: f(chaos) -> melody?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no wai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the notion that anyone's getting signal out of the market ticking up or down is absurd.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: #btc-pricetalk, but for everything.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ##econometrics has its moments, but it's mostly people arguing about noise in the signal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just crying out for a bad drug joke
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but touching colored spots (to the tongue) for an excuse to rub together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no i know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, acid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: humans can't handle statistics. big disaster with 0% likelihood freezes the brain in its place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: morning, fanatics.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-lockheed-fusion-idUSKCN0I41EM20141015 << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. << bezzletron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xinxi: extremely robust connection switchting, ideal for the laptop user.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xinxi: look into mosh as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xinxi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: idiots', no idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine, ssh keys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: problems?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: run emacs remotely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have server
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: eh?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're a programmer, script it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. << prices in my area recently went to integer dollars for things sold by the unit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: make a synthetic diamond crown of carbonized benjamins
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. << also this one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. << oh god i know this one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: entirely unsurprised.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is now gagging for time to read the logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ain't no dissembler
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, i got my own
(trilema) ben_vulpes ponders
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i envy your playground mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no, they constantly dilute except for active writers. << clever
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> womenz can not be owned!!1 << the line is that humans cannot be owned, and it's only spouted by those who've not realized they're owned
(trilema) ben_vulpes: factually i got a blowjob!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how are ya, berndj
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's like a third "private messages" a third "project manager" and a third bitchy babes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: relatedly: why do guys derp on about PMS and not about the ovulation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "fuck me" it is that time of the month, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a business owned woman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clearly those people don't understand business
(trilema) ben_vulpes: SO MANY OPTIONS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then order
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or sit in thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: middleman is getting squozed out of existince in this qntry
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just order from amazon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't buy things in meatspace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: www.introducingcarrot.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jborkl wants qntra shares
(trilema) ben_vulpes: me: "yeah, taking care of myself would be a good idea. i'll let you know if i get around to it!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lady: "maybe you should take a nap before our dinner party"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: drama mode
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xinxi: gpg key on about page mebber
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sweet my personal gmail's down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that hair
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keys -> accountability
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "first to the gate"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you just hold a hard line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eg, cazalla counterparties trusting him to not resell
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brings us back to trusting humans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well race condition only happens if someone sells and signs on to two seperate parties
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: what does a duplicate matter?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <`jurov`> yes, but i'd have to track it then.. better just add a button "loan the shares to coinbr" << not at all, just import all the keys and verify all the sigs at transfer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mike_c: to what are you referring?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no asshole i want a black body emitter"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "surely you mean you want the equivalent amount of light from this tiny little zone in the spectrum"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "hello i want to dissipate 60 watts"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and ofc halogen and metal halide bulbs but NO GODDAMN BALLASTS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: LED bundles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: CFL in packaging that FAILS TO DISCLOSE CFL INTERNALS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: CFL in housing that doesn't look like a CFL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: CFL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: options for lighting are:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: went to home depot (BEZZLE CENTRAL, APPARENTLY)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: went to grow store, was sorely disappointed by potheads unable to comprehend the utility of grow lights in a warehouse cum office situation and unable to make purchasing recommendations that fell within a reasonable price/quality zone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: OH SO THE METAL HALIDE STORY
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tempered with a brief glare signifying "don't do this to me again."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no no, this is my fault because x, y, z" {x,y,z} being things outside her control and knowledge that she expected to be held responsible for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh hey subject of personal responsibility, i saw a direct report's eyes glaze over with adoration and loyalty last night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how to dodge responsiblity for our own poor decisions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, it's the one thing we're actually taught in usschool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: almost as long as my schlong
(trilema) ben_vulpes: got a big list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't get in early enough on btctrain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta eat, kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes looks through requirements.txt, sees PIL, GEOS, reaches for docker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on a more serious note, i've gotten really great mileage from using docker to santize insane client django stacks
(trilema) ben_vulpes quakes again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wrap the shit in shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: python is scam
(trilema) ben_vulpes quakes in boots
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're going to put python on an actual system?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <punkman> a terrarium for its snakes << DOCKER, YOU FOOLS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ain't got no patience...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do it wherever i pleases! it, *and* emacs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i emacs outdoors
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (or leaving the comfort of emacs, if one's so inclined...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one can search, copy, paste, etc without relying on other's mystery meat.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> wah.. i searched for it in the logs and everything :< << good example of the persistent connection's utility.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> not sure what u refer to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: yourself as well :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, it's where the programmers with a care for cost and quality of living reside
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the one, the only, the inimitable!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he maths! he timezones! he prints shirts!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: up at 4.20, caffinated by 5.30
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mmm launch day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you mispelled it, nubbins`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lisene
(trilema) ben_vulpes: step it up, chief
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (lawsky)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: "per se"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: whole world, really
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bright folks are easily deluded outside their areas of competence
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they do enjoy themselves, and the USG keeps otherwise brilliant and hardworking people from being useful at large.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ('safe-by-construction', 'correct-by-construction' - as asciilifeform points out time and time again, these are impossibilities).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "we need safe-by-construction computers in this application. here's 10M."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: poor children, unable to comprehend the world for themselves without someone there instructing them on what to parse from the atoms a-knocking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no economists".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "too volatile".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tellingly, none of them will touch btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is the "curse of the cool problem" that these over-educated CS people must endure. cannot simply work in salt mines, 'cause inadequately intellectually fulfilling. instead, sell soul to devil, lie about it to self for the duration of life.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just pick up a gun and be done with it, ye hypocritical nerds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "it's different somehow if we write 'pure' code to do flight path planning", never mind that the flight paths are for killing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'insta-zap' this reminds me of the poor, self-deluding fuckers who work at a defense contractor client of mine. "it's different somehow if there's a *camera* on the flying robot", never mind that the algo's to point a gun are a quadratic estimation away from the algos to lock a camera
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> bubbles come in all sizes << notrly, only 187.5, 375, 750 1.5 and those fuck off big custom ones
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surprised me too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm too poor for that shit. have you seen the books?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what btc?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: brutal ones.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: i'm expecting audits.
(trilema) ben_vulpes waves too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bvanderveen/httpmachine/blob/master/src/HttpMachine/rl/http.rl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov, mircea_popescu, bounce: the state-machine generator Ragel's p. useful for reason-about-able parsing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> hickasthieves << lol there's your new mobile handle, thickasthieves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol Vexual you're asking for a divide by zero
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once upon a time i wanted to leave a hole upon disappearing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the more i think about it, the less visible i want to be
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or qnben for max SEO bombs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i should change my name to gben vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah that's rich
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <xinxi> hey, I need a market maker for my site. << jurov, thickasthieves, although marketmaking options is playing with hot hot fire
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deeds demo?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: real MIT died with the lisp machines i guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh wait it's bezzle MIT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <thickasthieves> i beat MIT http://www.coindesk.com/mit-bitcoin-trading-simulation-yields-profit-89-50-days/ << what the hell are idiots like this doing at MIT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: log works for me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: work computer vs personal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: a great deal of the shop's work is ios. can't not and do what we're paid for.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hate this thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and still unpatched.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people are very aware of how stupid this is, because i email them things that i want printed to remind them that they bought a poorly featured printer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they never come with modern chips, so i have to detatch from my primary network to use the printer in our office.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck wifi enabled printers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chetty: just a wee touch of the inflation hidden in decreasing quality.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and also where