ascii_field: the fact that most of what i do is not brute labour
mircea_popescu: except he doesn't want tyo compete with the 16yos those guys hire.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field so this would be in demand either a) by the nsa or else b) independent work a la s.nsa
mircea_popescu: "problem solver" is either a) cocky bs major from minessotta (we had examples ridiculed in here) or else b) collin powell.
ascii_field: mike_c: 'we have xxxxx and have not the slightest idea what to do about it'
mike_c: so be clear about the position you are looking for that doesn't exist?
mircea_popescu: mike_c it's very dissonant for me because he seems to come from this place where exactly the opposite of what i see is true. backwards world of alf.
ascii_field: mike_c: entirely not the profession i was speaking of.
mike_c: or a dozen other companies. very limited wot necessary.
ascii_field: but so narrowly tight to the extent that the practitioners have lost all negotiating leverage.
mike_c: i don't understand. maybe you are saying there is no demand for exactly what you want to do? there is plenty of demand for smart programmers.
ascii_field: there -is- demand, but it is -extremely- meat-wot-gated
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that there is no serious demand for highly skilled computerizers
mircea_popescu: chetty ^ give the foregoing a read would you.
mircea_popescu: i must say im still broadly unconvinced by the entire thing.
mircea_popescu: in any case, this would present excellent cause to disallow acces of women trying to appear *as women* in this field. either they learn how to be men or learn to live without participating in technology.
mircea_popescu: if women have it, and "do what i mean" and "i should be safe whether im naked drunk or not", then yes, semiskilled shanonizers in microsoft garb everywhere.
mircea_popescu: if a company can either secure its network or lose its ass... then the professional will be in demand.
ascii_field: same as the 'wriggleys gum' and plastification of industry
mircea_popescu: if this is true, which i still doubt but perhaps just as an artefact of my limied circle, then the pill is simply destruction of the legal protections.
mircea_popescu: i suppose to the degree this phenomenon exists, it is driven by the feminization of the internet (the sort of retarded behaviour illustrated by that comment i quoted earlier).
ascii_field: (not sure if the phenomenon is presently discussed under than name, or discussed at all for that matter. but it does have a name.)
mircea_popescu: i am unconvinced. there must be more to it.
ascii_field: for the reason which i tried to explain last night
mircea_popescu: my point is softer than that. specifically, it is that simply having put this there would not have tarnished your blog, but been smart an' convenient.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: don't get me wrong, i shall write again. and yes - for the archaeologists, as before. but presently cut among 1) dayjob 2) s.nsa 3) sleep,eat,...,write
mircea_popescu: there's no "higher purpose" or anything
mircea_popescu: just put it there so it can be found conveniently and forget about it.
ascii_field: (in case this was not clear, the ru original was not mine, and was found by accident)
mircea_popescu: dude, let's burn the library of alexandria because nobody ever read it. i bet that's how it actually went down.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you know you really should blog/link these things. srsly.
ascii_field: related fields - they are no longer in demand today. Therefore there is not much choice: sign for your supper by the latrine [ru prison parlance - transl. note] or silently rot in full consciousness of your total bankruptcy and futility of existence.'
ascii_field: Yes, once upon a time, the "programmer" was a serious engineering profession with a shade of elite status. In those years, genuine mastery of certain technologies was demanded from him, and this was not attainable by all. Whereas today any Downs-syntrome-autist can call himself a programmer, because he has mastered the basics of redneck-coding and will work for food. As for genuine professionals - like in many other
ascii_field: thoughts concerning the futility of his existence begin to intrude upon him, of futility; old complexes sharpen, and flower into a full-blown psychological crisis...
ascii_field: Or what remains - the other variant - to dive into the common flow of the sewers, and take hold of a passing piece of shit and feed upon it for the rest of one's pathetic life. Some are satisfied with this, just as many are satisfied with the profession of the prostitute, the cleaner of latrines, a waiter in MacDuck, etc. But a more or less normal person begins to experience breakage in his value system, worldview;
ascii_field: The apprehension of one's inadequacy begins, of the futility of one's existence, the principal impossibility of fulfilling one's idiotic desires. But there is always a choice. If the first variant prevails, he will press on with self-improvement, the study of genuinely worthy technologies, on which there can be foundations for the creation of something better. And he will understand that no one needs him as a smart-arse.
ascii_field: But the pathetic parody of a human does not grasp that it is not enough to have a cock's crest bachelor degree or to spoodge out a few pages of code at an olympiad, to become a programmer. In the course of this revelation, the lame abortus, reject of evolution, slowly begins to comprehend that the world is very much not as he imagined it.
ascii_field: 'But what, specifically, remains for the poor students and wankers, who took up the notion that there is such a profession - "programmer" ? Yes, there is, but not in the sense that these larval untermenschen conceive of it. Some see in this role something just short of the demiurge, crafting the future; others see a good way to set up their life, secure their future, a stable income and career growth.
mircea_popescu: certainly wasn't the last time this was tried.
mircea_popescu: the entire "we're obeying the law because the law produces foodstamps" and "keeps the terrorists at bay" doesn't really look too functional at any rate.
mircea_popescu: why would anyone obey the law ? it says nothing about their beliefs, it fails to make the world meaningful.
mircea_popescu: then it lost gender. it's teetering, and i don't think it's any longer sustainable at all.
mircea_popescu: it lost that pillar of support. but it reconstructed some sort of balance around the remainder.
mircea_popescu: see, law is in and of itself meaningless and powerless. if it reflects deeply held societal beliefs, it is powerful. which is why it was powerful in the old christian days, pre 1000 ad.
Chillum: What I mean is that just as the religion of two people is irrelevant for marriage in the eyes of the law, so should be gender
mircea_popescu: http://33.media.tumblr.com/cecc3c213c49633eba86ba638a56c311/tumblr_my65023EFp1s5egydo1_400.gif << this is like, THE picture of fucking societal decay. chick's having a lulzfit at guy who's too absorbed in gadget to do anything.
mircea_popescu: perfect word this. "dude, stop with the bydlokodinga!" "did someone bydlokodinga libnss ?"
mircea_popescu: moreover, i hold actual whores in higher regard than most other professions. certainly i give social precedence to a whore over a us college professor.
ascii_field: other than it.
mircea_popescu: (yes, yes, pr0n. but why the derpy teens in polo shirts!)
ascii_field: the font face is roughly cyrillic's equivalent of german 'blackletter'
mircea_popescu: i thought the dickspear idea is pretty pervasive.
ben_vulpes: much more so than the calculator with dick and spear
ben_vulpes: amusingly, both of these can be pretty readily reasoned about
mircea_popescu: wait, there's more. http://40.media.tumblr.com/70c01db6e1107493d666d370769b6552/tumblr_n9yjs0ADuM1rhnc6uo1_1280.jpg
ascii_field: (many beloved proggies, passed around on grid paper, used the cpu bugs)
ascii_field: the purpose of this was to create a bug-compatible emulator
ascii_field: and had to be laboriously restored, by folks who loved the machine to death
ascii_field: original design was lost in the collapse of su
mircea_popescu: that's "what do i get for". why is something entirely the fuck else, mentally stunted bunch of business school rejects.
mircea_popescu: that's not "why", motherfuckers.
mircea_popescu: <p data-translate="why_captcha_detail">Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property.</p>
ben_vulpes: but the dick and spear?
mircea_popescu: oh, tried to use the site ?
ascii_field: i mean, wtf. i actually tried to put some chumpatronium in the hopper and all i got was 'eggog'
ascii_field: he oughta do something more stimulating with the money. like have a golden toilet cast.
mircea_popescu: i thought reid hoffman is the original model for that forever alone figurine no ?
ascii_field: !s breathe vacuum
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the boys are biologically equipped only to be cannon fodder, really
mircea_popescu: https://blog.qwant.com/loi-sur-le-renseignement/ << apparently the frenchies have their own search engine, and stuff.
mircea_popescu: doesnt go over that badly, either.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that it is not unreasonable to say 'i will not compete with 16 y.o. if i have any choice in the matter'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field expound on the linkage ?
assbot: Logged on 09-04-2015 20:13:46; ascii_field: can't speak for mats, but basic idea is that once you leave your meatwot, you are a fungible machine. this is a situation that, as mats put it, 'resets you to entry level' - and overwhelmingly favours the very young
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this is the boon of late adolescence/early adulthood : that you can do any stressful job and you'll be fine. what you can't really do is slef-manage tho. which is kind of why i'm indignant over all the wastage sv/the us generally is doing to these eager kids making them "ceos" of "start-ups". << hence, >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-04-2015#1094083
mircea_popescu: (of course, but then again...)
mircea_popescu: my bad then
ascii_field: the latter
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 01:04:50; asciilifeform: because it declares war on microshit and unix, 'a pox on both their houses'
ascii_field: 'for the love of god, montrezor!' (TM)
ascii_field: now who wants to tell me why it took so long to do to 'trezor' what i suggested doing to it immediately upon learning of the circuit ?
mod6: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu et al: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/pogos.jpg << cool! bringing these with you?
assbot: Logged on 10-04-2015 12:49:45; mike_c: this is from the ethereum github repo. and have no fear buddy, they took your code.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-04-2015#1094644 << ah that they seriously intend to "release"...
mircea_popescu: "Upon leaving government service, Pope joined Sunrise Senior Living as Director of Special Needs Assisted Living " << i wonder if they make her change adult diapers for the rest of her life now because of that incident.
mircea_popescu: after which her career abruptly ended and the guy resigned.
mircea_popescu: so check it out, Barbara Spyridon Pope, some woman briefly in a desk job at pentagon, refused Duvall McClellan Williams, Jr's whitewashing report on the tailhook thing. because this is a thing now, derpy bureaucrats can tell read admirals no. hey, "civil control of military".
mircea_popescu: it makes no sense to me either!
mircea_popescu: women have no race either, that's a male thing.
mircea_popescu: so when's the rave ?
PeterL: no, but a perk is access to the company store to get cheap drugs
mircea_popescu: PeterL do they pay you in fourleaf clovers ?
mircea_popescu: notheywon't. and fuck walmart anyway, let it come up with its own business.
PeterL: so I started this week at Perrigo, the company stock jumped up 25%, therefore investors must like me, right?
mircea_popescu: "After his return to the USS Midway, in port in Seattle for Seafair, then Tailhook president Captain Rick Ludwig pulled all air wing commanding officers, staff, and flag staff officers and debriefed them on initial reports of misbehavior and incidents of fisticuffs in the hallways and on the patio by the pool."
BingoBoingo: Well, between walmart and reddit, what can USian people do to create any value without letting the cows loose?
BingoBoingo: The US cattle control system has become too advanced to for any new jobs to exist that make sense.
PeterL: maybe they are all retired people living off investment income?
mircea_popescu: someone seriously had the time to crash gate bases "across the us" because some people hooked up at the hookup convention in vegas ?
mircea_popescu: these people are nuts.
mircea_popescu: His statement led to a wave of public outcry which sparked numerous protests and demonstrations at the gates of naval bases across the U.S.
mircea_popescu: Lieutenant Gary Mandich, who was one of the many attendees and alleged participants in the lewd activities, told media, "Everyone needs to seriously lighten up. What do they expect? This is Vegas baby! They call this symposium 'Tail' hook for a reason!"
mircea_popescu: she can't have them till you stick it in her yo.
mircea_popescu: this is the boon of late adolescence/early adulthood : that you can do any stressful job and you'll be fine. what you can't really do is slef-manage tho. which is kind of why i'm indignant over all the wastage sv/the us generally is doing to these eager kids making them "ceos" of "start-ups".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im not terribru persuaded myself. but srsly, "get some sleep" is probably the best medical advice ever invented.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's not heritable but a weak indicator. and one of the prevailing theories is that it's kindled, ie, you could be fine but then you had to go stress it to all shit. 99% get ptsd, 1% actually gets schizo. << Kindling is the dominant theory among the credible people.
mircea_popescu: just a theory. nobody knows shit about their own head, let alone other peoples' anyway.
mircea_popescu: it's not heritable but a weak indicator. and one of the prevailing theories is that it's kindled, ie, you could be fine but then you had to go stress it to all shit. 99% get ptsd, 1% actually gets schizo.
mike_c: <+mircea_popescu> you know it's a major sign of early onset schizophrenia among other unsavory things ? << unsavory things like parenthood..
mircea_popescu: you know it's a major sign of early onset schizophrenia among other unsavory things ?
mats: http://www.randalolson.com/2014/05/24/a-data-driven-exploration-of-the-evolution-of-chess-match-lengths-and-outcomes/ via HN
mats: http://www.azimuthsecurity.com/resources/bh2009_mcdonald_valasek.pdf << this and the other link are the best windows heap exploitation papers ive read so far
mats: http://www.illmatics.com/Understanding_the_LFH.pdf << windoze heap
BingoBoingo: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/04/10/reports-troubles-webster-u%E2%80%99s-branch-campus-thailand << W.U.T. is an American university in name only, Erickson wrote, adding that the top administrators there do not know what a real American university education consists of, and have no interest in finding out." He questioned whether any of them went to a "real American university in the first place."
mike_c: I hate this: "I don't know that my pull request is the best way to handle it, but I thought it might poke the bear enough to move the conversation along" translation - my code is shit, but maybe it will annoy someone else enough that they will do it correctly.
assbot: This Is What Happened When Maine Forced Welfare Recipients To Work For Their Benefits ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ps05pZ )
mircea_popescu: in other news, jailbait is jailbait-y. http://41.media.tumblr.com/82e27f84a791f636193e7fca23c634c5/tumblr_nepx0rpWAr1qm6pfzo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: The_Shrander no, but it is kinda lulzy. in any case trezor had mixed reviews at best here.
assbot: All TREZOR users should update their firmware for protection against a physical attack - Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR with a $70 Oscilloscope : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1FqDPty )
The_Shrander: hi to all, have you seen this? http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3213nc/all_trezor_users_should_update_their_firmware_for/
mircea_popescu: !up The_Shrander
pete_dushenski: had mp not written that little article today, i might've posted these on imgur lol
pete_dushenski: i saw it at a motormuseum in berlin 2-3 years ago, just trying to dig up the picture now
pete_dushenski: and speaking of janus, for any car buffs reading the logs, there was a very limited production car built by german firm zundapp in the mid-1950's by this name
pete_dushenski: allow us to show a little of that competitive spirit we otherwise aim only at jobs and girls
pete_dushenski: but it'll be a fun time with the boys
pete_dushenski: i honestly don't give a shit about any of them
pete_dushenski: the newer ones are too... fast
pete_dushenski: 007 was the only fps i ever even tried to learn
pete_dushenski: http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200/ << can't quite see the sense in a $500 laptop differentiated from its $100 donor by two pieces of *free* software
mircea_popescu: an' this one's for fluffypony : http://rs1img.memecdn.com/Dont-Sit-On-The-Keybord-Ok_o_119368.jpg
assbot: Battle for the right to play old multiplayer games take shape. | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FHsfYz )
cazalla: pete_dushenski, http://qntra.net/2015/04/battle-for-the-right-to-play-old-multiplayer-games-take-shape/
pete_dushenski: about 1/4 of the newer ones
pete_dushenski: i was pleasantly surprised at how inexpensive memory is for these older machine.
pete_dushenski: which is easily the most i've ever had in a desktop, so i'm quite looking forward to seeing how it performs
pete_dushenski: so today was ram upgrade day at the dushenski residence !
pete_dushenski: speaking of up the sidewalk, looks like our little town here is getting its very own funicular in the next couple years
Chillum: backwards up the sidewalk
pete_dushenski: so... backwards down the sidewalk ?
pete_dushenski: cazalla: wat do you mean ? walking is the trendiest shit going
cazalla: trendy lol, i gotta lug your shit to the other room to decrypt it! nothing trendy about that
pete_dushenski: soon there'll be smartphone apps and errything
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: get inb the wot eh.
BingoBoingo: I will offer the standard disclaimer that s.qntr shares are as volatile as fuck and we have no revenue yet
BingoBoingo: IHB: So if you want to submit email in plaintext to myself and cazalla your piece. Make sure you include a GPG fingerprint and have the GPG key registered to a nick in the assbot wot
IHB: no. IHB costs were minimal. i have been bootstrappping since end of 2013. in the behind been working on an API and now we are finally in the last phase of development. my efforts need to be there
IHB: keeping the domain. not making any rash decsions now. we have some good backlinks. may redirect to new domain
BingoBoingo: IHB: So what exactly is the catalyst for shutting down? Did DDoS get expensive?
IHB: yeah, that aggregator is feedly. will send you the .opml file. i think i have a lot of the good sites to follow. would love it if you see any missing
BingoBoingo: IHB: Is it shutting down entirely or are you keeping the domain>
BingoBoingo: IHB: Would you like to diversify your newsing equity? Qntra is always hungry for posts... If you can offer a BTCgaw post for the qntra you can get a share per word
IHB: Tony Gaw is quoted as being the founder, no LinkedIn profile or any other presence on the internet.
IHB: Laila Risan is listed as the domain contact, She is located in Norway.
IHB: There is no Team Page
IHB: There is no Terms of Services Statement
IHB: There is no Privacy Policy
BingoBoingo: IHB: Yeah, qntra didn't have anything on them in particular because BTCgaw followed the exact same for as a scam previously called out.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo made his weirdix weirdcoind with the delete key and .h substitutions
mats: i remember the days when you could pwn entire channels with dcc bugs
mats: https://github.com/linuxmint/xchat/blob/master/src/common/dcc.c#L571-573 exercise for the bored: spot the bug
BingoBoingo will probably make the decision Saturday on whether or not to stake the Bitcoin of 688 people on The last great boxing match ever.
BingoBoingo: I'm going to think about it. There's still time
mircea_popescu: anyway, bitbet sports are iffy - the one time i put money on an obscure event i recall it being covered reasonably, like 9 to 1 or somesuch
BingoBoingo: But the fight isn't until May 2nd (3rd in GMT land)
assbot: Cause for concern? Mayweather and Pacquiao camps trade barbs over tickets, rooms, contract - Yahoo Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1JufG49 )
BingoBoingo: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cause-for-concern--mayweather-and-pacquiao-camps-trade-barbs-over-tickets--contract-014542951-boxing.html
BingoBoingo going to see how baseball/hockey do tonight and maybe submit the funded bet
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah. Him and Pacquiao have just been doing old people set up fights these past few years, because boxing is uncompetitive as hell
stunna: BingoBoingo: I know extremely little about sports betting, but there's probably enough people betting on there to keep the odds at whatever the official payouts are
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo marywether still boxes ?!
BingoBoingo: stunna: Well, Bitbet would be lower fee than a sportsbook (1%), just wondering if other money would come in to correct the odds.
stunna: BingoBoingo: tickets to get into that fight are ridiculously expensive, $5-6,000 for the worst possible seat all the way in the back
stunna: BingoBoingo: It's really all the same EV + fees, would make the fight more exciting to watch though if you put money down
asciilifeform: the infamous tea kettles inevitably came to mind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when weighing the lot, i discovered, to a bit of surprise, that there is ~50g of variance between the individual units.
BingoBoingo: stunna: Ah. I'm debating whether to throw down to 2BTC necessary to open up the Mayweather Pacquiao thing on BitBet, leaning towards dumping my stake on the Azn even though Vegas is against him.
stunna: BingoBoingo: I agreed to some guy's terms a year ago for the warren buffet bet thing and he pulled out, I got lucky he got cold feet
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seems the predominant name for this match is "Debate 5 years too late"
asciilifeform: decimation: if he 'broke' it, he will simply be left holding the short end of a fork
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform has never heard of either until now << Both fighters 5 years past their prime. One Black, one Island folk. Both old enough hard to see this happening without a loss of life.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i can't help but wonder - who is playing the sport bets other than BingoBoingo ? somebody must be...
decimation: asciilifeform: that's a good point. in many ways, controlling the 'standard library' on a platform is way more important than the kernel
asciilifeform has never heard of either until now
asciilifeform: because it declares war on microshit and unix, 'a pox on both their houses'
asciilifeform: and no deviation from the spec is tolerated.
asciilifeform: one can -actually program in the specified language-
asciilifeform: this is -one- of the reasons why ada (and to a slightly-lesser extent - common lisp) is interesting
decimation: it seems that any sane implementer carefully sticks to a subset of the language - or a particular compiler/library
asciilifeform: but there can be no great charlatan without the great - in its own way - gaggle of imbecilic chumps to go with him.
decimation: and his marketing consisted of 'yeah we can include your crazy shit in the language'
decimation: from what I gather from naggum, stroustrup basically spent most of his time marketing C++
asciilifeform: (not even speaking of cross-platform portability, but the fact of any two compilers on same platform eating up the same input and producing comparable, valid output)
asciilifeform: even the standard aspects have questionable solidity of specification.
decimation: because you are immediately faced with re-writing the whole thing from scratch
decimation: C++ does 'just work' but if you want to use the standard functions in any way other than designed it becomes a massive hairball
asciilifeform: esp. since the 'jewel of simplicity' aspect tends to dissipate very, very quickly in unskilled hands trying to implement a modicum of actual optimization
decimation: ah so the 'funarg problem' appears when you only use a stack
assbot: Loper OS » Shards of Lost Technology, and the Need for High-Level Architectures. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CvZTft )
asciilifeform: http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/6334 - or my article on the subject, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=46
decimation: the guy claims to have built a small hardware processor that 'runs' picolisp
BingoBoingo: I'm looking for Investment advice. Any thoughts on Mayweather vs. Pacquiao?
mats: TIL AMD now contracts out their fabs
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Fixed, was missing the f in pdf
asciilifeform: in other news, #glibc is one of the quietest channels one could imagine short of an entirely dead one.
mircea_popescu: no wonder the ancients didn't have "intellectual property". too cultivated to imagine it's workable.
mircea_popescu: mike_c ben_vulpes i seriously thought i had come up with it, then searched for it, found vulpes
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2014 16:43:00; benkay: bounce: the only solution is to be the competent management you wish to see in the world :)
ascii_field: (modern mathematica is, grudgingly, bignummy.)
ascii_field: ^ he 'wriggleys gummed' the thing, too.
ascii_field: assure that any decimalization had enough bits to be precise to a given number of digits). Stephen's aim seemed to be to sacrifice correctness for speed. He seemed clear on that the error was not a problem for him...'
ascii_field: 'My real concern, of course, was not that he was using optimized data structures so much as that he seemed on target to reintroduce numerical error back into a world that we had worked hard to make 'exact' (Macsyma used bignums from Lisp) or at least 'arbitrarily exact' (Macsyma had a derived type called 'bigfloat' that was internally a pair bignums, acting more or less as a ratio but with lots of other hidden bits to