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(trilema) ben_vulpes: // + Contains no strange transactions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: // timestamp before)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: // (no blocks before with a timestamp after, none after with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: // + Is surrounded by blocks with reasonable timestamps
(trilema) ben_vulpes: // What makes a good checkpoint block?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can pay only in time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm referring to mp's reasoning as to why functional turdatrons are not published
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the argument "no benefit, some risk"?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that story had a what - century long incubation period?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you're moving at a pretty high velocity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gratzi asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forgive my valgrind/c naivte, but i'm assuming that indirectly lost refers to memory that cannot be freed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a fact conveniently overlooked by populist health preachers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's all a matter of demand, the tooling is out there.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spider silk componds in goat bladders?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i been out of the atoms biz for a while now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p sure that's a thing already.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like dna base pairs in bulk?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: vlsi or crappy door handle...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i really don't see the difference.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also, your typical us "food product" fab.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sounds like your typical semi fab.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 30 btc and a testing framework for 0.5.3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: python-gnupg iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: where's that pankkake comment from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i ultimately went the route of shelling out to gpg directly and writing my own little lib that did exactly what i needed and nothing else
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: i've run afoul of the python gnupg wrapper
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what magic dingy laptop is this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol can you hear the movie over the things fans?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but vlc handles everything...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: converting?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah microsoft's got a wristband product
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then check again on deed submission and barf if they're still not in l2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: capture keyid, barf if they're not in l2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have people dump their keys in themselves
(trilema) ben_vulpes: edgar has been tuned to deliver to certain IPs before others?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: i'm not seeing the part where you shell out to gpg in there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just put the repo into sunlight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clean verification i mean
(trilema) ben_vulpes: making a thing that can't be dumped into gpg and produce a clean sig?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've not gone so far.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, i get it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nubbins`: how on earth do you get a btc addr out of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: without the deed title i get a good sig
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: fwiw, i get a bad sig out of that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2(?) years later.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the topic of "no more bitcoin businesses" the bitcoin foundation is finally capitulating and following in MPEx's footsteps.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are you willing to share the source for deedbot?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how can you possibly verify a signature without the key?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you should really grab fingerprints out of otc db and then import those keys.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, yes you do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or bash emacs into submission
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cat deedbut.html ... poopy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: curl deedbutts > deebut.html
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: can you give that to me in raw format? i'm seeing ^M all over the place
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if hopes were horses we'd all gallop to bsas.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the rush, anyways?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so while i appreciate the slicing dicing and otherwise pureeing of warts...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: logs are great, but this shit will benefit strongly from a mailman list record of actions and discussions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm waiting on turdatron for merges, as well.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and anyone else interested in patching)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: returning to my original point, please email the set of your patches and sigs to benkay@gmail.com, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so sil vous plait
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we're not all wunderkind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, you want a custom mailman in 2 days?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: seems escaped in the body as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still kinda stinky.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (stinking...)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mailman thinking...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you tried that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> asciilifeform: mailman will display gpg clearsigned attachment inline if you rename it to .txt (and i don't ned to diddle code then)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woof turd indeed
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but this right here http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/thread.html constrains the filtering problem to something vastly more manageable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, please do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but a vast improvement over your pooping patches into the noisestream here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not as useful as it *will* be, granted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at the moment it's not even relaying mail to me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a description of contents should suffice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is such necessary?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same as we've been doing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: .tar.gz, including patch and detached sig.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey asciilifeform do a sapper a favor and start emailing your patches to btc-dev@therealbitcoin.org
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah yeah that must be why i thought you'd like it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the site i want to serve has links to /charter.html, /v0.5.3-gd05c03a.tar.gz and other stuff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've pushed an update to the site, but the byzantine serving mechanism isn't providing it for some reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd almost rather stick it behind a webserver running on the same host as the mailman app.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: can you straighten the s3 bucket backing therealbitcoin.org out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or skeleton_key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think i'd rather be a general key
(trilema) ben_vulpes: p great handle btw
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Pvt_Key> if you feel a stupid you did not make that stupid. << who is pranking me now
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes back to encrypting keys that google insists be shared
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise the phenom's just to clearly retarded to be even slightly amusing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah gotta mix in some truth with it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but not angiecast
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh and lemme guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <long-day> The activist community LOVES bitcoin bigtime... the two leading female promoters of bitcoin i'm friends with, but they don't know anything about trading. << and what does trading have to do with bitcoin?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the feed is a facebook curated thing - not something anyone outside of their revenue extraction machine has any say in.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: long-day: doesn't mean either that any of those posts make it into the feed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that burning feeling of imitating thy fathers failures.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably the best thing you could do is enter at this low point and then demonstrate the abilit to learn, long-day.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'cept mebbe long-lost right here as he ain't got a key to speak of.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: well by that token we're all "real people"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dafuq is a real person.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust Pierre_Rochard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ident bitstein
(trilema) ben_vulpes: salud, bitstein
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey mircea_popescu you doing any of this? http://www.openhousebsas.org/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh ho ho you funny man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my position on trading's an open secret.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata: it's the forum, you can speak, you don't need any permission from me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adios los_pantalones
(trilema) ben_vulpes: roast the poor squeezed longs in the forum as an example.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this, torture hour in -assets?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ttnews_: time heals all wounds.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they'll be right back.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assets is now on a hallutropic interlude ttnews_
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for some reason i think asciilifeform would like the above linked video too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata, mircea_popescu: more felix colgrave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlUR09yRHZU
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah, i see. well, i enjoy his animations but my taste may not align with anyone else's.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HAVE A USELESS BUG REPORT BRO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: no idea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not acquainted in person.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: seen his stuff before.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felix colgrave would be a neat choice for btc comix
(trilema) ben_vulpes: watch that video tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's so entirely not the point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hush you all stop talking about donating
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol and what is it now mircea_popescu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a helluva bet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: the unsigned email did not arrive, so i must presume your filter is doing *something*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my mail client doesn't seem to have a problem sending plaintext emails.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: i don't get bounces for failed signatures.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so register, send messages until bounces stop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a bounce notification would be nice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: un*mutilated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those who wish to write messages to the mailing list must ensure that their messages arrive mutilated.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what's wrong with a needle through which interested parties must pass their messages?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is a clearsigned body not adequate because risk of crlf's?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forgive my mis/poor-understanding of the gpgmail thing, but...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <jurov> http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/29/some-dangerous-idea << my braindump about turdatron << UPNP was me, jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how would they know...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah upgrade rate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is the net column?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: we did and it blew up on digests.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd really like punkbot to take in the raw doc and .sig files. but...whatever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or not validating the same doc...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this not being able to sign the same actual document thing is downright irksome.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ...conceptually possible << do clearsigned copies of the contract from both parties per S.WOL suffice?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol now that i spell it out parties should deedify seperately.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the parties should all deedify independently.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps this is academic though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the cleartext of multiple versions of the same contract can be compared to each other
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that will *both* check the signature *and* show you the signed blob.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (you being punkbot or anyone verifying contracts)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if each party runs gpg --output out.sig --sign --armor thing-to-sign.txt, you can run gpg --decrypt out.sig on the blob
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so here's what mod6 and i figured out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: arbeit machtzzzzzzz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: implementing the mailing list hack you suggested throws a digest error.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: er, an hour each.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6 and i have burnt approximately an hour total trying to pretzel gpg into the correct contortions, and it's not working for us.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: would it be terribly onerous to get deedbot to certify that multiple documents signed by different people are in fact the same document and that all of the signatures verify?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus, wrangling multiparty gpg sigs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i shant, no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and interrupt this roll you're on?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: build environment is a snowflake.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've never successfully built it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and all i have is borrowed borrowed borrowed leased and micro-sharded hardware on which to put it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all i want is to surface these text files to the internet :(
(trilema) ben_vulpes: black magic cross-dc replication
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http semantics for up/downloading
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the amazon key-value store jurov backed therealbitcoin.org with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit is cached somewhere infuriating.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and...see nothing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did the s3 thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sapper must know his limits.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: couldn't hurt to check...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a grand idea
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the patches just now published, specifically.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's late and i'm banging my head against the opaque mess that is the amazon key-value store.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gentlemen, please check patches i've published as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey it's a little warty but here's what's cookin: http://therealbitcoin.org/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (theoretically, ofc).
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look at that! regtest mode implemented in configuration. no chainparams.cpp necessary.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's what i suspected.
(trilema) ben_vulpes suspects checkpoints are the dumb thing here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but this could be retarded - i don't actually know.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm more inclined to hack the checkpoints out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (also i'm assuming that you're not trolling me and saying "yes they'll mine in the sense of hashing loltworotlzlzlzl")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if i spin up two bitcoinds and use cli arg '-connect' to point them at each other, can they mine?

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