ben_vulpes: lol you're in a mood today
ben_vulpes: asshat wot when
ben_vulpes grumps
ben_vulpes: why did my gribble auth drop?
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: !up Alrenous
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual <Vexual> later tell ben_vuples Are you listening to hard trance yet? << you gotta spell it right, bae
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell vexual <Vexual> [] ;;later tell ben_vuples Are you listening to hard trance yet? << you gotta spell it right, bae
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this "no coins available at any price thing" is looking more and more realistic
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ya innit the truth
ben_vulpes: lotto play, thestringpuller.
ben_vulpes: real ride-or-die bitches is hard to come by.
ben_vulpes: doesn't imply lots of slapping tho
ben_vulpes: oh yes
ben_vulpes: http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/peet-met/amanda-peet-fishnet-statement-at-met-ball-2014-05.jpg
ben_vulpes: a hm now?
ben_vulpes: dog and babe both respond well to arched eyebrows, very little by way of slappings necessary :D
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: oh i di?
ben_vulpes: mm.
ben_vulpes: lol cazalla can spot a natural domme on his first go?
ben_vulpes: how are we all in #bitcoin-pricetalk today?
ben_vulpes: "undergraduate exercise"
ben_vulpes: Elian11: i envision a future where journeymen write their own bitcoin implementations
ben_vulpes: ty artifexd
ben_vulpes can't hear anything over the sound of brain fabric ripping
ben_vulpes: "Without such a tool you often end up greping through dozens or even hundreds of files." << yeah exactly. EXACTLY.
ben_vulpes: okay i guess i'm not getting anything done on the cpp for a few days while i get up to speed on ebrowse
ben_vulpes: NO
ben_vulpes eyes bulge
ben_vulpes: thanks, asciilifeform!
ben_vulpes: derp
ben_vulpes: CWallet inherits from CCryptoKeyStore
ben_vulpes: ah okay i get it
ben_vulpes will now have to shelve and reserve Siebel for late night palate cleanser
ben_vulpes is still hung on the CKeyStore coercion
ben_vulpes: mthanks
ben_vulpes: my problem with the bitcoin codebase is not cpp (that's just another language), but the insane class hierarchies i have to hold in my head
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a bit, yeah. picking it up relatively quickly.
ben_vulpes: no, i understand the this pointer. what i'm failing to understand is how the reference to the object from which SignSignature is called can in any way be coerced to a CKeyStore
ben_vulpes: i'm still not understanding how the *this argument (which looks like a bool?!) is turning into a CKeyStore
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, that's the current version
ben_vulpes: so that's two exported versions of the same function that are "polymorphic" as i understand the term on argument types?
ben_vulpes: sure, i guess
ben_vulpes: okay cool well i guess that makes sense
ben_vulpes: are you serious
ben_vulpes: waahahahaha
ben_vulpes: CKeyStore
ben_vulpes: the first of which doesn't even seem to be a keystore
ben_vulpes: this is probably me not grokking c. how does the function with a signature of like 6 args get called legitimately with 4?
ben_vulpes: sure...
ben_vulpes: how is this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L1003) a legit use of this (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/script.cpp#L1163)
ben_vulpes: different topic y'all
ben_vulpes: it's a broken hose, asciilifeform!
ben_vulpes: http://cwguy.com/wp-images/upload/File/200802/01/IMG_2452.JPG << amidoinitrite?
ben_vulpes: kickshart
ben_vulpes: quickly i must kickstart this
ben_vulpes: no wai emojiterm is the missing piece of wimminz in tech
ben_vulpes: with inline gifs
ben_vulpes: yeah i could have emojiterm
ben_vulpes: that's...inhumane.
ben_vulpes: also explains why soooo many terminal programs are extensible with you know "perl, and maybe some other languages if you absolutely must"
ben_vulpes: list processing's a pretty neat programming model yeah
ben_vulpes: explains why so many sages under whom i've labored have been all about the perl
ben_vulpes: learned *this*
ben_vulpes only learned from working with mod6
ben_vulpes: why should the hole be over ba?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably a badmouthed set of points
ben_vulpes: hola bigtip
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's trying to break http/2 already
ben_vulpes: (i encourage argument on the topic! conflict being productive and all.)
ben_vulpes: i imagine you've found a way to get it to make them, what with all the "murder gavincoin" talk i've heard.
ben_vulpes: i have no problem with a bitcoin that makes txns of arbitrary size.
ben_vulpes: you want a change addr, you new up a change addr and include precisely how much change you want it to have.
ben_vulpes: no way. transaction cooking is a job for the person cooking transactions, not the RI.
ben_vulpes: i'm not really seeing a future for sendmany
ben_vulpes: lolk
ben_vulpes: oh god help us
ben_vulpes: utxo also lets miners verify transactions, an important thing to preserve imho
ben_vulpes: block indices let you dump the blockchain into a rich datastore
ben_vulpes: utxo lets you trivially find outputs of your own to spend
ben_vulpes: with all the hoojum around wallets and the db, i can't help but suspect that all the state the reference client should really maintain in terms of db is a) block indices and b) unspent txout pool
ben_vulpes: in the process of running down how vins get populated, just thought i'd share some lulz
ben_vulpes: naw i don't even care yo
ben_vulpes sighs
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L778 << i mean lolwut?
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/wallet.cpp#L760 << if this is what's necessary to pull an input out of the db to fill a sendto, the db is not working for you.
ben_vulpes: daaaaang
ben_vulpes girds his loins
ben_vulpes: WHEEEEEEE
ben_vulpes: recursive_mutex etc
ben_vulpes: ah okay so this is the famed c++ concurrency story. rad.
ben_vulpes: CRITICAL_BLOCK
ben_vulpes: today i learned...
ben_vulpes: but "polished"
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKRExcRBA << huh turns out they're not even lathed
ben_vulpes: i don't think i want lathed babes
ben_vulpes: they're not d-grade roots if you turn them down and get rid of the vile outside layer!
ben_vulpes: mmm, lathed carrots.
ben_vulpes: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/25/article-2668912-1F12C87000000578-212_306x423.jpg << i'm sending you one of these, thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: funny how little google and duckduckgo claim to know about al hayat and the islamic state report
ben_vulpes: something something digest something
ben_vulpes: is a gpg signature topologically the same as encrypting to the public key?
ben_vulpes: here's to thebitcoin.foundation
ben_vulpes: great party.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's a pretty wacky thing
ben_vulpes: now you can't even bring the truck.
ben_vulpes: once upon a time you could bring a truck-mounted m16
ben_vulpes: ever heard of the "drive by shooting gallery"?
ben_vulpes: i'd suggest you consider the immense feat of reigning in the firearm use.
ben_vulpes: b) not really in the spirit of the party - messy, dangerous to bystanders
ben_vulpes: well, a) they're hard to get
ben_vulpes: oh, actual fireworks.
ben_vulpes: maybe an eye or a finger here or there.
ben_vulpes: dude you clearly have no idea how weak american fireworks are
ben_vulpes: 3-5% << looool
ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the "leave no trace" paradigm?
ben_vulpes: they don't, really.
ben_vulpes: "it's a tragedy!" "no, there are 80K drug-addled party monsters running around in the desert around giant machines built with nary much of a care for safety. it's amazing the mortality rate's that low"
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> [] and someone recently died at burning man << every year, actually.
ben_vulpes: wowee.
ben_vulpes: two thirty!
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: whoa reddit actually deleted the missile crisis thread?
ben_vulpes: guten morgen
ben_vulpes: (dun really think the two models would interact much, but also i don't know much microbio)
ben_vulpes: you can now double your ratecoins
ben_vulpes: bb quick fork your ratingchain
ben_vulpes: well
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: CYP?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> a bum, like a total, street dwelling bum, accosts some random guy begging. and the random guy goes like "ain't got nothing now", and hands him his coke bottle. << ok so i've got this crazy pet notion about maté and viral load
ben_vulpes: "I wanted to spend my bitcoin immediately, that very night, but I was at a loss." << the fiat mindset's strong with these folk
ben_vulpes: hey i finally caught up to this morning
ben_vulpes: or the semantics are totally bulloxed
ben_vulpes: so you auth and up or whatever
ben_vulpes: so what?
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: ahaha oh man once in a quarter irc lulzportunity
ben_vulpes: !down mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: !up mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: hee
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] http://staceyjayya.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/transparency.html << why not start a kickstarter. << a "failed kickstarter" person is doing the "meetup" circuit in my town
ben_vulpes: except for those 10 hours reading through the intertwined wallet/transaction generation code in 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: nothing! i was derping on the mountain all weekend.
ben_vulpes: my sense of humor's kind of shot.
ben_vulpes: AT ONCE
ben_vulpes: look my whole shop called in sick
ben_vulpes doesn't into the irony today
ben_vulpes: m oh
ben_vulpes: not even a quarter key at that point
ben_vulpes: 3 oz of blow is like maybe a vulpes eyebrow
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] what's 3 oz refer to ? << can't really b'leev that 3 oz of weed makes anyone anything
ben_vulpes: hola hanbot
ben_vulpes: #bitcoin-court too, while you're at it
ben_vulpes: mk
ben_vulpes: ;;ident pirateat40
ben_vulpes: whoa
ben_vulpes: sheeit
ben_vulpes: what did you guys do - like 500lines in the past three hours?
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: great idea, BingoBoingo.
ben_vulpes: subject of, did you ever read the book by the same title?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the future is the zodiac - ak47 of the seas
ben_vulpes: (relevant at 0:49)
ben_vulpes: DOOOOOOOOOM!
ben_vulpes: splat
ben_vulpes: nut
ben_vulpes: ;;rate bigtip 1 easy come, easy go.
ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:affcf8d12f47970d0864ea626cbe820a688382b078baac2e33e61530
ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: oh ho ho
ben_vulpes: ;;rate bigtip 1 easy come, easy go.
ben_vulpes: <punkman> * bitcoin_charlie left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed by Preet_Bharara). << lol
ben_vulpes: what was the deal with "justice has been done?"
ben_vulpes: !up bitcoin_charlie
ben_vulpes: artifexd: i'm going to hazard that was shrem.
ben_vulpes: yow
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ?<mircea_popescu> [] asciilifeform you understand what the bloom filters thing is supposed to do AFTER that right ? << hopes that this is elaborated upon further in logs
ben_vulpes: thanks
ben_vulpes: hey y'all how does one configure fleanode nickserv to kick squatters?
ben_vulpes: trilema back for me...
ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> [] they are starting to call the real bitcoin "MPcoin" << mircea_popescoin
ben_vulpes: whitelisted? iono.
ben_vulpes: sounds like a whole lotta your problem, boss
ben_vulpes: glhf
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: trilema down
ben_vulpes: !up goulash1
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: holidays were full of cake and poor self discipline this year
ben_vulpes: CAN'T WAIT TO PUKE
ben_vulpes: biking across town and running up and down the hill a few times today.
ben_vulpes: well 'nuff, well 'nuff.
ben_vulpes: buenos dias, terrists
ben_vulpes: <benjamindees> [] Just consider that, when Satoshi said "gain a new territory of freedom for several years," he had a reason. Bitcoin is not the end-all-be-all of systems. Mining may not be a long-term solution. But inflation is non-negotiable, regardless. << who are you again?
ben_vulpes: hold on to your butt(coin)s!
ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> [] how do other envision the future when reward goes towards 0. either a btc is worth half a planet or the fees amount per block go up a few orders of magnitude or network is dead << little bit of columns a and b
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell hanbot ty, much appreciated
ben_vulpes: hola
ben_vulpes: disrupt the whore-er-archy!
ben_vulpes: and Vexual found it
ben_vulpes: couldn't be, it's only three weeks old
ben_vulpes: http://vimeo.com/114761496 << repost?
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: how did i not see this until now
ben_vulpes: *sigh*
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/key.h#L214 << thanks, punkman
ben_vulpes: is there a distinction between "the priv key" vs the "secret" used to regenerate a key?
ben_vulpes: saw it, was too tired to even muster a chuckle
ben_vulpes: does anyone know what precisely the "private key" dumped by bitcoin is? is that the secret that can be used with EC_KEY_regenerate_key to regenerate a key?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no sir my hands are full with cpp backports
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu knows my format :P
ben_vulpes: 'twas an exhortation to make a bnf
ben_vulpes: ignore me
ben_vulpes: artifexd: formal grammar!
ben_vulpes: me i'm just fascinated that the savages can bang such arms together with basalt and obsidian
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: consider it an otherwise unremarkable arrowhead from the dig
ben_vulpes: in the game of retarded telephone that is the us link reposting scam masquerading as 'nooz'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah turns out some source mindlessly subbed "dollars" for "pesos"
ben_vulpes: berp nm
ben_vulpes: iff
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/serialize.h#L90, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/primitives/transaction.h#L259<< "HAI CAN I JAMZ THESE MEFFUDS IN HERE GUISE"
ben_vulpes: speedy delivery eh
ben_vulpes: jezebel*
ben_vulpes: hey mircea_popescu what's the going rate for a box of tampons in bsas? the "tampon shortage" is making the rounds on jezebe
ben_vulpes: also hey qntra would you drop gravatar for the "here's my domain, please serve domain/avatar.png" icon model?
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/ << wd
ben_vulpes: usg can mandate its serfs run .10 or w/e
ben_vulpes: war too
ben_vulpes: world changing
ben_vulpes: just kinda...inevitable.
ben_vulpes: it's not really an argument at this point.
ben_vulpes: "bitcoins"
ben_vulpes: "useful fool" is a phrase asciilifeform's to describe the type
ben_vulpes: i'm guessing dollars.
ben_vulpes: like to lol
ben_vulpes: i guess it works if your goal is to suck the conqueror's cocks.
ben_vulpes: does waiting on apparent victory to ally ever work out?
ben_vulpes imagines watching this flick with a typical progre
ben_vulpes: "the gods must be crazy"
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: smokes. let's go.
ben_vulpes goes to swap dishwasher and laundry machine loads
ben_vulpes: i musta been putting the wrong objects in the wrong boxes this whole time.
ben_vulpes: heh.
ben_vulpes: i'll get there eventually, asciilifeform