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(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://antilop.cc/sr/#trial << and yet nothing from today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [] lulz https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/558037792568410112 << and yet nothing on motherboard, despite twitter's "source" of Kari Paul, nominally a writer for the rag in question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gavinandresen.-5:8e4060d0c134fa8feda50c5e3e897056c40b5142c493f8d4371e8bbaf386085d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin innumerable times and would like to continue.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: their proprietary spreadsheet program will only save documents compatible with the version of itself that runs on 10.10
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my time will come, i'm sure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to eat 10.10.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation, yeah, that's the one.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my next operating system dabblings are going to be in bsds and gentoo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: not i, no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: basically purpose built for them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, it was great for the adobe suite
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "just works" is dead. has been for like 3 revisions now, but the rest of the world is finally waking up to it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stumpwm (a cl window manager) handles multiple monitors better than OS X.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: want to hear something else lispily amusing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not even kidding
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because that's what he threatened to do!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for robert viragh to call my mother and tell her i hang out with nasty people on the internets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, reddit discovered the fundation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i don't know anyone that seriously thinks they have a model on it << severely lacking in the whole conversation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tooling lust << no it's true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and emacs is not it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dood there must only be one canonical window manager
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ?rate undata -2 fucked my .emacs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, 'twas my own fault for not unsnarling it more quickly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: undata recommended me an emacs config change that took *hours* to unsnarl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh jesus i return
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and body, while you're at it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: feel bad about your toolchain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: your IP is showing!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asking questions faster than his tiny brain and crippled fingers can keep up?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Naphex: distracting << lol. not pandering, do you mean?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sotting, yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can never remember this word.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: he has to show. has to "try to talk sense into -assets"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's allll part of the act.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: Well ESPN says they paid ESPN in BTC << i thought it was a promise to pay in btc, the paper for which ESPN liquidated immediately
(trilema) ben_vulpes: roasting gavinandresen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you missed all the fun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "why are your bangs off center"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol well rubby haircuts are normally done by the hair wearer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: well i've written java, i've written ruby, and i've had extensive interactions with the relevant "communities" (although only my local java "community")
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for people with silly hair
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's just java
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i also unload the dishwasher in the morning and turn the lights off at night.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer" << asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i derp through apple's code signing shitshow so that they can focus on writing moar softs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: others write the softs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: oh yeah don't use the layout engine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: apples proprietary "integrated development environment" for "objective c"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my keys "have issues"? get fucked!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who wants to "fix issues" related to keys?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: contains "fix issue" buttons
(trilema) ben_vulpes: xcode "code signing" is hilariously opaque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't spot *every* scam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trying desperately to eke out food credits over here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm submitting builds to apple
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's downright suspect that mircea_popescu goes to lunch and gavinandresen shows up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen is clearly unfamiliar with the pricing model of every luxury good ever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <gavinandresen> asciilifeform: I don’t want to rescue anybody, I want as many people as possible to Get the Bitcoin Religion! Can I have an AMEN? << good fucking god
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what even is a sidechain?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's just a basic blood pressure/cortisol reduction measure
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let him up the spamgun
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !down gavinandresen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gavinandresen.-5:1b1cb1a93eadfd534bec6d5cdc3328d057c6baa2e6e97b7bfa34e5157384cc73
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate gavinandresen -5 broke bitcoin in too many ways to mention. inquire within.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is why you kept getting sucked into arguing with Robert Viragh over plainly stupid shit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot gavinandresen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lobbes: tell him who said it, he's ignoring me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up gavinandresen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <gavinandresen> Pierre_Rochard: I believe the goal should be to maximize the value of Bitcoin for everybody << you're fired.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fucking drop it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is FUD, plain and simple.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eventually they mature and are prioritized.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and their transactions *don't* get tied up forever.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: nobody who matters gives a shit about the marginal user.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you never had any support in -assets
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've lost all support for these large blocks in -dev
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: you cannot construct this conversation on the foundation of fees. you cannot possibly know how fees will behave in steady state or in perpetually inflating block size state.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't address any of the *only valid points* being made here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ha yeah please
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and you insist on "adding features" instead of fixing your mistakes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the list goes on.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: KV stores for a complex data set.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: non deterministic transaction generation.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stale wallet backups that your asshats are responsible for.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: want to talk about what's hampering adoption?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: adoption is for the masses. i don't give a single fuck about the masses. bitcoin is not for them now, nor will it ever be.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is to say, "god".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: and we have the guns, coin and code on our side.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's unnecessary and i reject it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and our stake in the ground (0.5.3) is our indictment of everything that your people have done for the past umpteen months.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: i'm pointing out that the only acceptable patch for wallets is total removal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then you got hosed with the whole "change address" debacle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and so, you had to track "relevant transactions" in the wallet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the moronic quest to make the thing occupy as little space on disk as possible precluded you people from selecting a queryable db
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in fact the entire wallet model is completely broken.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: the notion that the wallet code should be responsible for setting fees is utter braindamage.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we are not considering counterfactuals.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is a 1mb limit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a distraction and poor logic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: you assume some kind of "goal", and that there's a "we" with it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] nah, writing everything in c++ is dumb. << write it in every language, discover interesting bugs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, and again we're at the "snapshot of a dynamic thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: let's at least hit the steady state behavior before starting to diddle with important economic variables like block size.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is only bitcoin, and if one cannot afford the miners fees for inclusion in a block, one does not need to transfer bitcoins enough.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is only bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in any event, gavinandresen, there'll be no more forks from you. you blew it back in the day, and you lost the initiative on this one months ago.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: obvious plant is obvious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !down felipelalli
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.felipelalli.-1:d220de3c0270b6e3f3f923fa6dbfd6daa164792bb1919eccdca66d6aedf87c4c
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !rate felipelalli -1 snr penalty
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot felipelalli
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no. not happening.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oh look we're also talking about improving things over there so you may as well roll over on the megablocks issue"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the topic under discussion is the moronic megablock shit, not signature rules.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not wherever you people get together and wank about "innovation" in the blockchain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: around *here*, gavinandresen.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well i can tell you right now there is zero support around here for changing the protocol in any way.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah, so a breaking of the protocol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is a soft fork not a breaking of bitcoin in some way?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i smell drama
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i want to nap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is a lot of log
(trilema) ben_vulpes: got a writeup somewhere? i don't understand the implications straight off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol so then fork?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wasn't even keeping logs at that point
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't know if i was around at that point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: changed versioning?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Luke-Jr> [] not sure why this patch is reducing set_lg_max.. << lol i love the stream of consciousness as Luke-Jr reads through source
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're tired?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: reading logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm just sitting here imagining the ways gavincoin could play out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no i went searching for that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: memory loss setting in already?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol did you miss it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: god i love you guys
(trilema) ben_vulpes: then off into a discussion about bitbet mathematical/statistical arcana
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure enough, brief discussion in teh lawgs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://bitbet.us/bet/1093/bitcoin-main-net-block-size-to-increase-in/ << could such a block get 50 confirmations and a reorg happen later? that's not even 10 hours, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> any reason to doubt that the usg exchanges and other scum are 'on board' (for what that's worth) ? << it is going to be *fascinating* to see how coinbase et. al are going to handle this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the bombing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it being the jewish center?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> davout here's the story : big bombing here in the 70s, at the jewish center. dozens of victims. << was this a proxy attack on israel?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess i do now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyone getting spammed with CTCP messages from a mramberg?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tango is harrrrd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spectre of the old regime?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fear of those in power?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i think i'm going to hold off on moving to argentina until the next round of food riots clear out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, this shit goes down for arcane policy points?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and will again indubitably
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on whose dime?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: s3 is suffering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so they're *all* bogus?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what kinds of "public meetings" happen?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you might consider using the patch names as a handle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, nm. ignore me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or to say, run an lxr instance for each successive patch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you plan to run lxr on each patch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: how about you hold off on publishing the patched set for now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: have you seen much actual derping in public about this nisman thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty much, jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (i suspect that when you increase road surface by 10%, road miles go up far more than that)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's the opposite of a fixed asset?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: odd question
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple pay's going to try to gobble all the banks, so if my bank's truthful about it being apple's fault, i'll just end up with the same problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well hey here's another fun thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dickterprints
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chip in dick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: OKAY IVE DISENROLLED
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as one should be...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if their banks are using the thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i can't figure out how to turn it off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: apple refuses to say anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bank claims its apple
(trilema) ben_vulpes: watch me end up in jail for unauthorized access of my own accounts
(trilema) ben_vulpes: way fucking way
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu gets it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll give it mebbe a week and then release the video
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways i tried to do the responsible disclosure thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is bezzle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bank claims that this feature is being crammed down their throats by apple for apple pay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it logged me in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i recorded a video of my face on biz_partners phone, and played it for the facial recognition shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "log into your mobile app with your face"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so my bank shipped a new feature
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buenos dias, wreckers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait - skullcase?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no reason to not provide adequate expense accounts to ensure everything gets done
(trilema) ben_vulpes: girl basically runs the household
(trilema) ben_vulpes: easily delegable all sorts of household tasks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and does the cooking too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine has her own
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah well there you go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: personal cheques would defeat the purpose; then i'd have to pay taxes on money i'd already have paid taxes on.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps you missed the part of the log where i disclosed that lady v is on my personal payroll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: getting creative. it's a blast, honestly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: HAVE FUN NO PRESSURE NOTHING RIDING ON THE OPERATION
(trilema) ben_vulpes: letting biology do its thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but can't really say yo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you see the girl's sister's wedding is important enough to shift babymaking around, but not con3
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: i'm going to the third conference, foo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the long ones
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imma put lady v in a mercedes baby wagon here sometime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nice acquisition, pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> it's not a 3/4 ton pickup << lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh hey that's neat kakobrekla
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: lol you know me so well
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