mircea_popescu: this has all the makings of drama. lesee
BingoBoingo: Keep debugging. Thankfully nothing too burning is in queue at the moment.
mircea_popescu: neways. i'd much rather debug this than move, so your patience's appreciated.
BingoBoingo: Of course, because the internet is retarded to the point "usage" numbers can't at all relate to the actual use of a thing by persons.
mircea_popescu: the spikes are both ddos.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bw-qntra-year.png << there. THAT is independent journalism.
mircea_popescu: is there a non-fucktarded img host ?
mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare.
BingoBoingo: "You've requested a page on a website (qntra.net) that is on the CloudFlare network. Unfortunately, it is resolving to an IP address that is creating a conflict within CloudFlare's system."
BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable
mircea_popescu: users by lines, last 7 days 1.) assbot 1151 2.) mircea_popescu 1111 3.) asciilifeform 1087 << the closest it's been!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 10:55:19; mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out.
mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out.
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 01:56:22; *: asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208225 << no. because everyone that starts an attempt gets spooked by the results.
trinque: and couldn't from another, distant IP
BingoBoingo: Fuck it. I spent all of this time syncing with the CVS tree. I'm compiling this bitch.
asciilifeform: it'll have to be put in 'recovery mode' and the whole turd overwritten with something reasonable.
asciilifeform: also the box is a seriously cut-down thing
asciilifeform: decimation: in the log
decimation: can you find the rom device? might be able to make it puke through serial port
decimation: and that alsa line is interesting - I wonder if that is to drive the audio on the hdmi port or if there is actual analog audio
decimation: I wonder if that kernel boot line is some kind of device map? maybe allocating the gpu mem?
decimation: seems like 'dot' is the defacto standard
asciilifeform: this thing is probably the most cpu per gram of whole machine, at least in my collection
decimation: probably less than a few hundred ma then
asciilifeform: (while receiving power from the jack)
asciilifeform: the hw is a bog-standard cheapo arm
decimation: mali kinda became famous with the wondering muslimtude
asciilifeform: and what little space there is, is occupied by crud
asciilifeform: incidentally, is anyone else perplexed by the 'mali' gpu? recall mircea_popescu's piece were he picks it as the archetypical pissant country, not even interestingly infamous the way, e.g., zimbabwe or north kr are
decimation: actually it's quite impressive they have stuffed this much capability into humble stick
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if you've the time, hash and deedbot your blocks
asciilifeform: 'ipp' appears to be yet another graphicsism
asciilifeform: as for what the fuck 'ipp buf' is, and why it eats 16 precious MB, science is silent !
asciilifeform: ^ to be clear, that is the stock (manufacturer's) fw
asciilifeform: that ain't a 150 die on the pcb - no such animal
asciilifeform: presently wondering whether the '256M' of ram was a lie, and if so, how the thing ended up with 150
decimation: it's weird how divergence seems to happen in blk0009.dat - deserves further investigation with block dumper
asciilifeform: each is around the size of a printed full stop
asciilifeform: can be the ml
asciilifeform: plz upload just one then
asciilifeform: nothing worked in the sense that it crashed every time ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208270 << pretty plz post the input that brought about its death ??
asciilifeform: (i.e. there is not a 74xxxx containing six of'em)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208265 << afaik they were never once sold as discrete items
assbot: Logged on 21-07-2015 02:39:11; decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?
decimation: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-459 < " In fiscal year 2011, the most recent information available, DOD spent over $1 billion leasing commercial SATCOM. "
decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?
trinque: yeah, there were complaints, mistakes were made, those responsible were sacked
trinque: oh, no that's the wrong syntax
trinque: clearly there is
asciilifeform: com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring )
asciilifeform: and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema.
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2013 17:13:53; asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains.
asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner
asciilifeform: esp. funny considering that they portscan planet 24/7 and try to -addnode to everybody who answers
asciilifeform: i oughta knock on their door and tell'em
asciilifeform notices that all of his nodes carry precisely the same tx, but then again they are all peering one another...
trinque: long term fix is ripping out the golang thing and replacing it, meanwhile... bash hairball
asciilifeform: much of history of physical science (arguably the 'good times') were squarely in the 'secret society' days
asciilifeform: (and the folks i work with - are very much not 'etsy artefactual expert' types)
asciilifeform: or perhaps 1,001 other
mircea_popescu: where is the place ? do i go to microsoft and learn how programming's done fo real by pros ?
mircea_popescu: that's what we're trying to do here, the somewhere. imo not done yet.
mircea_popescu: but there ARENT actual doctors somewhere.
mircea_popescu: and at the current point, "programmer" is EXACTLY like "etsy artefactual expert"
asciilifeform: not when there are actual doctors somewhere.
asciilifeform: witch doctor in the congo does not define medicine.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of... glass ?
mircea_popescu: you think venetian glassblowing is defined by what they actually did, or by all the glass they could have conceivably blown
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform which is what defines the profession.
asciilifeform: software as it exists now is largely the result of precisely this kind of process.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only substituteable profession is camwhore.
asciilifeform: e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: substitute in a different profession and see if the above still appears to make sense
mircea_popescu: i think it's been perverted in the evil clutches of ustardism tho.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea : take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip them naked, chain them to desks and let them come out once they did something worthwhile.
trinque: "The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host" << wahaha
trinque: and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your thing, they're great!
cazalla: trinque, i think i remembe that one and something about soaking them
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2015 20:51:39; mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
asciilifeform: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg << http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/S25FL128S_256S_00.pdf >> short sck and si lines, apparently throws the cpu into bootloader, can then rewrite rom via usb
punkman: "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage that contains embedded OpenType fonts. "
mircea_popescu: "the sample is small and not much to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample that is small and not much to be said.
mats: mircea_popescu: i can build a table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for? the set is small and idk how you'd judge the quality of the data
trinque: of the nutmeg itself
asciilifeform did not eat it, on account of recalling that it is one of the 'bad' hallucinogens
asciilifeform: when i took organic chem at uni, for some reason 'extract myristicin from the nutmeg' was the first lab session
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( https://archive.is/http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 )
mats: mircea_popescu: part V is covered in the first signed message, it follows the list of cases http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 and i chose trilema as the venue for public review
asciilifeform: the miracast almost makes me wish i had a tv set. would plug it in, watch blockchain go
asciilifeform: did the fed run out of coin
asciilifeform: where is the spam
mircea_popescu: o no wait, it was "careful with that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget the nutmeg".
asciilifeform: where is the tx spam ?!
asciilifeform: along with 1,001 other frauds
asciilifeform: those were in the 'anarchist cookbook'
mircea_popescu: i think the banana peels thing was a different one.
asciilifeform: i learned of the jekem crap from uncle al, incidentally
trinque: my (former) buddy in middle school tried to smoke the banana peels
asciilifeform: (definitely there was a few storiez on usenet/asstr)
mircea_popescu: "the latest dangerous fad to sweep our nation's junior high scene since that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere."
asciilifeform: iirc there is abortion porn
mircea_popescu: incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club" trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media" that the latest fad among teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one to be someone!"
gabriel_laddel: I was never party to either of those, so idk
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel sure, but there's meetup of young people ie team + cheerleaders on the bus back from game away ; and then there's the meetup of young people ie, jay explains to preteens what the clit is.
gabriel_laddel: math club then
gabriel_laddel: phf: Sure, as "fundamentally misguided" as any other meetup for young people.
asciilifeform: (or any of the 1,001 clones)
mircea_popescu: phf not so different from any other hot topic tshirt.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:32:27; mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66
mircea_popescu: for sure can't close it with all the work you put into it.
mats: mircea_popescu: how long do you plan to keep the legal research project open?
mircea_popescu: kthen
asciilifeform: 'eat fine dinner and fuck AT THE SAME TIME !'
gabriel_laddel: IMHO, hackathons are at their core a good thing - all implementations thus far have been terrible.
asciilifeform: this is probably the smallest - masswise and volumewise - linux box that i've ever owned
asciilifeform: no telnet server though, so it might have to get new rom (and flasher) via 'xmodem' or the like
asciilifeform: so it can access the net, yes
asciilifeform: the last time i plugged the thing into a display, i configured it to sit down on a wireless lan
phf: asciilifeform: btw hackthons used to be face to face development sessions by free software teams, when they had opportunity to all congregate at some location. coined afair by theo, but went the same way as "open" and such
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: soldered pogo-style ttl serial probe to the 'miracast'. this yielded a straight root shell in ~5 seconds after powerup.
gernika: Which, hey - would good if that happened more. Sadly the CEO's own idea turned out to suck and the startup went out of business.
phf: that's an old school notion, trickster as a hero and all that, but i don't think this is that. these people are not even hustlers, i don't think there's any awareness there.
gernika: There was one hackathon which, at the time I hated, but in retrospect had some redeeming value to it. People formed their own teams and worked on their own ideas and at the end, the CEO judged the results.
trinque: the greatest thing you can be is a 20 year old billionaire that blasted off doing something pedestrian
trinque: clearly the only thing preventing idiocracy is that it could never get that far
trinque: all of these people are useless
trinque: gernika: yeah, the one where they fucked up project management so you're gonna ship this weekend by god!
trinque: phf: like this was gonna get some bum off the street, making rails sites?
trinque: obviously if it worked for "them" it'll solve all our corporate dysfunction
trinque: the concept was obviously shat by marketing people who believed in the myth of "the weekend app that made a million bezzlars"
trinque: and expect them to ... not sure what
trinque: you get pizza and beer and invite shmoes off the street to come "hack"
phf: it took me a while to even realize that the majority of employees had less then 3 years of programming experience, majority of managers had no software project experiences, etc. i didn't really understand until experiencing it first hand, that a large software company can be so utterly dysfunctional. and yet "we're all winners!"
assbot: The Crypto-Cold War: Bitcoin's Politics of Scalability - NASDAQ.com ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 )
asciilifeform: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 << extra-lulzy
phf: gernika: i didn't have to endure much, except shortage of competent underlings, but i witnessed cto organizing hackathon for other teams, and it was painful. blind leading the blind
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207955 << ample precedent for this crap. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 -- and also that famous find where 'skype' turned out to slow deliberately when CPUID instruction returned something other than intel
phf: ceo would regularly send out "vote for us as the best place to work in the city", "vote for me as the best ceo"
phf: they had socially mandatory fist bumps, instead of hand shakes, by way of greeting.
phf: i worked for one such company last year, joined out of curiousity, but stayed to finish projects i was responsible for. the amount of dysfunctional behavior was staggering.
trinque tosses "passionate" on the american pyre
trinque: can't just do your job; you have to be drunk on whatever half-assed propaganda they came up with
phf: ties nicely with that tlp article about "the real me"
phf: <mircea_popescu> fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop << from a limited experience, that seems like a sop in certain kind of sillicon-valley inspired u.s. company. a combination of "you can do anything!" with worst sort of delusions of grandeur.
mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg
mircea_popescu: gawker does "radical transparency" don't you know. when you fuck with me you can read all about it on trilema, but it's gawker that's radically transparent. a bunch of twerps whose names nobody even happens to know. paragons in their own minds of things they don't understand, nor would understand even if they actually tried thinking about 'em.
mircea_popescu: "oh here's a backroom napkin scribbled with my protest over the culture of backroom dealing these people imported into our fine organisation of delusions of transparency. i am too stupid to understand how ridiculous i'm being. NEOTENY FOR THE VICTORY!!11"
mircea_popescu: seriously, you gotta write emails to the staff about stuff like this ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the one notable thing re gawker is that the twerps smokling the crack pipe of radical-this-and-that do not have either the intellectual wherewithal to notice nor the mental acumen to actually create THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOGS.
mircea_popescu: kinda funny to see the us reduced to the 50th state of the great nation of africa, but then again
chetty: <mircea_popescu> next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.// they aren't?
mircea_popescu: next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.
mircea_popescu: fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop
mircea_popescu: ". The essence of Gawker has always been what happens when we get out of those meetings and go back to writing and editing the stories you do that no one else can do. "
BingoBoingo: ^ China now doing the biggest SQL join in history. #AshleyMadison #OPMhack
asciilifeform: and another (also experimental) that adds 'flushmempool'
asciilifeform: moar patchez in the pipe, too
mod6: Can only check teh weather if in assbots L2. Which is very temperate.
asciilifeform: probably will fill some time reasonably soon, at which point i'll finally cancel the contract on it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you paying for the server or just using one already deployed ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile i'm about to stand up another node!
BingoBoingo: "sell support" worked for cisco and oracle when marketing to the helpless and overencumbered with bezzle
mircea_popescu: if that's what you aim to do with your life, go to new york join the police force.
mircea_popescu: the only endpoint for that is where rhel ended up : a cheaper USG Department of Windows.
mircea_popescu: the "sell support" model has been thoroughly debunked in the field. or at least that's the moral i draw from revierwing history.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the one thing closed source can never do is good docs. << But then how would they sell support as a seperate product?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Oh those were the paid, pretentious herders of the unpaid. But since Denton clamped down on their lulz Apparently herding interns is too much nao.
mircea_popescu: somehow the bright strategic minds involved missed this point.
mircea_popescu: the one thing closed source can never do is good docs.
trinque: mircea_popescu: makes sense, they're excellent.
chetty: visa doesn't dicriminate against 'the poor', they just either don't give them credit or charge them bucket for it
mircea_popescu: if my father weren't a total fuckwit, he'd have told me "my son, you'll make a billion dollars before you'll read a two page item about you that manages to eschew glaring errors".
mircea_popescu: "oh, because fiat glbse is so desperate for <<organic traffic>> they're resorting to the politically correct version of spun content & keyword stuffing" ? kthx.
mircea_popescu: "The views and opinions expressed herein are the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of The NASDAQ OMX Group, Inc." mmmmkay... then why are you publishing it ?
mircea_popescu: if anyone still has a twitter account, maybe link the derp to the above. you never know when athlete face learns something from the internets.
mircea_popescu: i merely do not give enough of a shit about the cause celebre du jour to neglect technical arguments for its sake.
mircea_popescu: and in any case - it's not some "disain for the poor" that's at work. just because everyone is on a (mostly hypocritical) fixation on loving the poor does not make my position disdain
mircea_popescu: i just don't happen to be clueless enough to confuse those for "Scalability". considering i am not actually a technical expert, this reflects very poorly opn the intellectual abilities and assorted scholarship of random derps opining on nasdaq.com
hanbot: srsly, why's "the poor" in quotes?!
mircea_popescu: Mircea Popescu, who is opposed to scalability due to his vocal disdain for the poor
hanbot: ey mircea_popescu http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963
asciilifeform: 'and leaving their interesting and activities oriented towards extramarital dating exposed.' << ?
mod6: the openssl configure script (perl lel) seems to indicate that no-shared is the default -- but i wanna be sure.
asciilifeform will not encourage others to play it
trinque: seemed to be a point about superficial mitigations vs fixing the underlying issue
trinque: asciilifeform: re aslr and other things
trinque: rather, both
trinque: maybe asciilifeform's perspective on mitigations applies to the latter
BingoBoingo: Then don't have derpy internal hosts
trinque: latter seems to have to do with hiding facts about the inner network topology
BingoBoingo: <trinque> mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf? << Haven't used either of those yet. Pretty much use block, pass, and queue
mod6: start simple, then build in more complexity as only necessary.
mod6: looks like you can use random-id for some normalizatoin purposes... main thing is here, read the pf.conf man page 2x and then build up your firewall and use the heck outta tcpdump to ensure what your rule set is as you want it.
mircea_popescu: there is this particular thing in autists where being compressed widely helps
mircea_popescu: and i suspect all this is autism related and should prolly be a med insurance deductable, like kinetotherapy.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this apparatus works, i was told, like the ubiquitous kitchen vacuum sealer machine. but with an airhole. it is popular where i live, i was told.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, anyone amused at how the "mainstream media" took all of five seconds to decide random white dude was "racially motivated" blowing up a black church, wheras they're still "trying to look for motives" that paki dude shot up the marines ?
mircea_popescu: to continue the chick in rubber skin thread, http://38.media.tumblr.com/c42b2ab51e7e9e85ad0c04c935504746/tumblr_n3u2tstiHD1rnqh33o2_r1_500.gif
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: working how? single-stepping the thing ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai working on the 950kb bogus block atm.
shinohai: Yeah but they have incredibly shitty electronics at our Goodwill. I usually troll craigslist and sometimes get free parts.
trinque: I tend to make my way there once a week or so
trinque: they've got "Free Geek" here for scrap
shinohai: Time is the most important asset for testing. I still want to prove that a small group can outproduce the "bitcoin foundation" sans their immense budget they blew.
mod6: the first doc is just the commands you need, so it's kinda cut/pasteable. the second is the commands with their output so you can get a sense of what you should expect to see.
mod6: shinohai: awesome! no rush either. when you get time is cool. let me know how it goes, i'll be around to answer q's.