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(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the guy who ran the place had his own out-of-sight apartment that was rarely shown to other tenants
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, we had to run it from the mains entry point *ourselves*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decent shaper requires 3-phase.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes, there was 3-phase.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: people lived there yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: subspace in busy warehouse, not much by way of rent or opportunities for theft.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and more in fancy woods
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with tens of thousands of dollars in hardware
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've worked in minimally secured shops
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually asciilifeform i contest this stance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is different there? why no orcs or plunderers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: out in the woods, the sop (as i understand it, not having pulled this particular hat trick myself) is to fire a warning shot, shoot the invader, and then call the sherrif.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: most recently, we've seen what happens to people who shoot each other in the suburbs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw there aren't many orcs in the rural bits of ussa, and one can shoot trespassers on sign in those provinces too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i did notice the door was unlocked.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but uh normally the fab does not produce hipsters, no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: D1X can do strange things to a man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these old fab hands and their msboxen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hah and of course a windows machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "common household tools"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something indescribeably stupid, no doubt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] like, the node, which is an always on demon, and then various things connecting to it : such as other nodes, on the eth card, or the user, always on the specifically delegated interface, etc ? << working towards this is the root my plaintive cries about what it means to "bitcoinate"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] how do you plan to use it w/o a wallet ? << gotta move all the transaction generation logic out of the turd. implies a database replacement using something that can actually be queried, not a braindamaged k/v store.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: spittoon, though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right! it's totally innocuous.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are all of these things that make sense in the context of it, but...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i start to understand how badly the c toolchain messes with ones head
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6, asciilifeform: forgive my naivte, but what's the recommended approach to efficiently toggling between versions of libs for compiling cturds? in particular, ssl for bitcoind.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: filling tank
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: shorting shartups
(trilema) ben_vulpes: join "anonymous", go on watch list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't buy the malicious usg. thing is purely reactive, and only within the logic of itself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've a feeling argentina'd welcome me with open arms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] actually i'm kinda half curious how many us based conf attendants discover at the border that the newly expanded tsa doth not agree their passport holds any value. << me too.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] interesting idiots are sometimes (temporarily) tolerated. tedious idiots - never. << /me waves
(trilema) ben_vulpes curls tighter into a hangover ball
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell sergiohlb your cloak is getting applied *after* you join
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;later tell sergiohlb your cloak is getting applied *after* you join
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a real joy to work with
(trilema) ben_vulpes: * asciilifeform not a fan of 'pattern matching' languages << i worked with a database with queries in datalog recently.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great intangibles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm reading logs from days past, not hacking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <chetty> [] and you had to rent the state company ones// coming soon to us, internet public utility will make it so << pretty much here already in the states
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ssn secret is best secret
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: that gets me two up on you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edAxujKev1I << reminds me of the time i've spent deep in the bowels of D1X and friends
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you have a wedged portatron?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: none of the portatronic builds are wedging like this, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not cockchain!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think mp's implication is that 168001 is diddled
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what was the story with a certain version of ssl breaking some kinds of btc signatures?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whaddayamean, "checks out"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, comes from andresens bag of snakes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: the man's talking about btcd, not bitcoind
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't believe anything
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "process man" << i guess more accurate than i ever thought
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: water works surprisingly well << oh let us not get ben_vulpes started on the wonders of steam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dunn something?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fintech whatever whatever?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah that idiot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i also kicked around a design for a nifty reciprocal engine where the piston was really just a magnet-bearing shuttle zipping back and forth through coils for insta-ac
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never got the gas steam bearings to work tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] flat enough with one disk << i did my own axle and used HD disks to get better boundary layer performance
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: weren't you killing people and building criminal empires then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my own flash boiler
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a fucking waste oil furnace
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i built so much errata in pursuit of that thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] kanzure: tried plain old tesla turbine ? << talk about boyhood dreams
(trilema) ben_vulpes: impossible's more a function of available time/energy anyways. not an absolute thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: making anything always requires impossible investments of time and energy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: assuming he's not a plant, that is
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2015#1007991 << i didn't want to drive the kid away immediately
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda what i was going for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "because the joo's a lazy reader." << pardon?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: qntra's turning into quite the source these days
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the_scourge: you really have to ask?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the_scourge: shit doesn't even really count compared to actual impressive public market scamming like VGMC
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myeah i want this too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: OKAY CLIENT WHY AREN'T YOU IN OUR CONFERENCE CALL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "at long last, my expectations are fulfilled."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not only expects, but welcomes the stake.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform's a sucker for punishment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i remember some really long stony nights in college going through the works
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you've yet to meet mr mold?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey so why did the hipster burn himself on his coffee?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, good morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> [] http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-02-2015#1008005 < did no such thing << my mistake, figured it out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mebbe a tidy little dinosaur in the footer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no css is best css
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dat unstyled text
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is the flatfile host up yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ALL I HAVE IS DUH
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's going to have to work in-channel, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s testing in production
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, what is this add-key?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my tooling works.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: no, but it makes a point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c04e17d42f4139a1cf13c592cf1722b9116798c9122e99590d8dedff
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ident ben_vulpes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, you're not even identified.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how is this phillipsjk voiced again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll bring der furer down on me and i'm trying to get to ars in the spring
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh gosh don't do that danielpbarron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh well clearly fuck right off then.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ident phillipsjk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: especially when that key simply parrots that which is only said by those who wish to wreck the scarcity and value of core bitcoin economics.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the point that i'm making (for the clinically slow) is that the odds of a key from...2013 just showing up and having anything pointful to say, especially when citing bitcointalk as proof or substantiation of anything are...low.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: back in 99 Vexual was my isp and we only communicated with caesars cipher
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i singed my butthole with a particularly firey fart the other night
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i'd hope so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Welcome to BITCOIN
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Try It And See
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: where did you get that key, anyways? did you buy it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: TIAS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the notion that the bitcoin protocol needs testing is pure FUD, from the enemies of hard crypto.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no "testing" of bitcoin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: scuse me, monero is a "hobby".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the experiment succeded.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the blocks chain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the sigs hash.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, it's possible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: ya well bitcoin monetized, and monero hasn't yet and likely won't so that's the kind of comment that paints you as entirely ignorant of the domain.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: you're aware that monero's an experiment, right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: today, 3 mining consortiums might find a block within just a few minute of each other
(trilema) ben_vulpes: propagation of blocks over the network was at that time...weird.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: once upon a time, blocks were of unbounded size
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the 1MB limit is actually in place because of block propagation chaos.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, i said that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: the 1MB limit is not to stop spam.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and it ain't changing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: what roadmap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 2c2314f353 VerifySignature failed << that's familiar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, block limit ain't going anywhere. it diddles important scarcity characteristics, and the system isn't even in steady-state yet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at this point, i'm seriously entertaining the notion that phillipsjk is 3 phillipinos frantically composing sentences that sort-of make sense in english
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: tell me about it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: the vast majority of people run winblowz and use iOS devices. are we to count them in our set of people who might use bitcoin someday?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <trinque> get your forklift << not a bad analogy. preserving private keys is tough.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: proles will be lucky to buy a fraction of a bitcoin once per decade.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: too bad he insists on waltzing in here and telling us about how the proletariat must transact in bitcoin several times per year.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: right?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you touch bitcoin, you are going up against the fiat state. end of story.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is not even swift.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is not mastercard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is not visa, ffs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin is a store of value and a way to move money around without governmental interference.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no no no no
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: anyone who could hold bitcoin (in the sense of actually controlling their keys, robustly) should trivially be able to wield either credit cards or local fiat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: i pour!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a table lol do mine eyes deceive me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: forum posts carry no weight here.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know no death and taxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've made no argument as to this 1e6 number.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even though all i can ever aspire to own in terms of vehicle is that crown jewel in the plastic bezzle crown (the honda element), i yet recognize those valuable scarce and uncounterfeitable things like bitcoin and well-husbanded women.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the 1mb line is about preserving that scarcity in the face of all who'd turn gold into paper in Schwabe accounts and make your dollar into ninety cents tomorrow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin is a rare, scarce, unpollutable thing unlike everything else under the domain of the fiat tyrants.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: well pipe down, read logs, learn something and then start derping about "power trips"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: the san-serif headers are kinda..bleh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Vexual: tunes, let's go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why'd i think that a thing you've dropped for 2.5 months would ever see any action?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the mind boggles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're not registering shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i know you don't like the guy, but nuking his record?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot muxne
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot muxne
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't make me finish this bottle aone, trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: back to the deeds, you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no more than merely existing gives you a say in how the world works.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ./bitcoind -datadir=my_butt/ -daemon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no, not at all.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: absolutely none of this qualifies you to have an opinion about block size.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no need to summarize your *one* rating for me.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah no clearly i can read that much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: who are you anyways?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: are you fucking kidding me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from namworld?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !gettrust phillipsjk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: the last million transactions are probably by volume idiocy spawned by wallets that inhibit address reuse
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a glass of tinto left?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get it done!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: smokes, let's go!
(trilema) ben_vulpes elbows trinque
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although i have no fags left
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine is not!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my girl, somnulent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my toy bitcoinds, wedged.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and lo, i am logged.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: conclusion of story left for reader
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i can't quite beat the thing senseless with my helmet as, well, ussa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and then proceeeds to march over to intimidate me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i shit you not it makes eye contact
(trilema) ben_vulpes: goose *catches my eye*!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doing nothing of import, minding my own business
(trilema) ben_vulpes: idling by my bicycle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] trinque actually they'll fight you, too. more than one woman got scared shitless of flocks of geese << this one time i was eating a burrito on the waterfront
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <Vexual> [] 'hoes and money and violence an polotx << legendary
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every night my tiny brain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: every night these koans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh asciilifeform that's a great story
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: using addnode= to add a node from which to pull the blocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the pay, not so much
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] a) what chicks and b) what pay. << i can speak to the chicks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh, d'ja hack the whoopies BingoBoingo?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phillipsjk: what does bootstrap.dat have to do with anything?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with a known-good blocksource?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would you be a dear and sync an unmolested 0.5.3?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks for the repro, punkman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maaaaaas, Vexual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> chick's so drastically ugly tho... << pretty indicative of the tail to which us brass has access
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tips on running for precisely a single block?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: instead, instruct me on the arcane art of dumping specific blocks from a bitcoind 0.5.3
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