ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did.
ben_vulpes: *foomp*
ben_vulpes: hey at least you're not trying to cut steel with diamond bits.
ben_vulpes: mhm.
ben_vulpes: hahahahahahaha
ben_vulpes: al's fucking butter
ben_vulpes: yes well that does make life easier haw
ben_vulpes: oh.
ben_vulpes: carbides?
ben_vulpes: the hack was finding the sweet spot in race/bearing hardnesses.
ben_vulpes: there are a few different hardnesses one can achieve.
ben_vulpes: 'twasn't *that* expensive.
ben_vulpes: meh.
ben_vulpes: we just cut slowly.
ben_vulpes: that we hardened ourselves
ben_vulpes: out of hardened steel no less
ben_vulpes: we made our own spinning fin cans at one point! garage bearing races of... 0.2m diameter!
ben_vulpes: 'twas a fine introduction to what could be done in a garage without the military overhead.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: minuteman << did you ever read into the 'amateur' rocketry group with whom i dorked around for a while in undergrad?
ben_vulpes: wd
ben_vulpes: whoa, all statically linked?
ben_vulpes: perhaps of that scale.
ben_vulpes: 10x.
ben_vulpes: imagining -> expecting
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re 4004: i'm imagining devices at least 10x that scale.
ben_vulpes: mod6: what are you running tonight?
ben_vulpes: if the goal is "compute by the yard", make more yards, not smaller compute.
ben_vulpes: customary densities are a product of red queen dynamics.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] but to somehow lay out electrical logic elements at the customary densities without resort to a $1B factory. << for the record, this is a hobble.
ben_vulpes: safe and secure in the ca government's hands.
ben_vulpes: fuck joseph david.
ben_vulpes: re: cavirtex hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
ben_vulpes: ty nevertheless
ben_vulpes: just 'cause this one has css doesn't change the selection process.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did learn how to read a datasheet in the mines.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in what interesting and special ways *does* it suck?
ben_vulpes: <3
ben_vulpes: waaaaa
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i'm renting a physical (yes) box for ~25 usd / mo << wherewherewhere
ben_vulpes: myes, i've been brutalized by it.
ben_vulpes: now, i beg pardon for my ignorance, but could not this model be adapted to the cd rw?
ben_vulpes: as the chains moved through the boxes, the boxes flipped bits on each link
ben_vulpes: i recall a story from a stephenson book, about a machine that computed with chains run through computing boxes
ben_vulpes: also, depends on the degree of cleanliness required.
ben_vulpes: 500 - whole buildings
ben_vulpes: "garbage fab"
ben_vulpes: ^
ben_vulpes: ;;ud hooby
ben_vulpes: BE USEFUL
ben_vulpes: yeah learn you a common lisp or something
ben_vulpes: such a cheery morning to you all!
ben_vulpes: ratings season!
ben_vulpes: they do anyways
ben_vulpes: let 'em squirm
ben_vulpes: perhaps next time i take a whack at my bush i'll sculpt it into a cockbrow
ben_vulpes: i was hoping for a /mircea_popescu eyes a cockbrow
ben_vulpes: that one was for you
ben_vulpes: people copying content have no taste
ben_vulpes: nah man this goes back to why a btc torrent thinger isn't worthwhile
ben_vulpes cocks an eyebrow
ben_vulpes: yet trivially available on UToob
ben_vulpes: i have no context or anything to judge music against.
ben_vulpes: no, i said i have no idea if it's any good.
ben_vulpes: well and how would you know?
ben_vulpes: 'tisn't as though i ever had good taste in music beat into me.
ben_vulpes: how would I know...
ben_vulpes: from the piracy lulzmine: Patton's /Peeping Tom/ is nowhere to be found on the public trackers, yet trivially available on UToob
ben_vulpes: stahp it hurts
ben_vulpes: unsurprisingly.
ben_vulpes: this is ridiculous on the face of it, but young american men are more interested in solving simple nonexistent problems with tech than solving big complex hairy ones.
ben_vulpes: just the USian bias - herr presidente sez no guns, ergo it's impossible to get guns
ben_vulpes: sorry for wacky posts, arms are jelly from pushups
ben_vulpes: by april"
ben_vulpes: hm there's the "any exit
ben_vulpes: nm nm
ben_vulpes: rejected grexit bets
ben_vulpes: punkman: links plz?
ben_vulpes: grexit nao?
ben_vulpes: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-16/euro-area-finance-ministers-talks-with-greece-break-up-on-rift << grexit when
ben_vulpes: fukkin fukkin fukkin
ben_vulpes: fukkin clients
ben_vulpes: fukkin cashflow
ben_vulpes: fukkin pay as you go taxes
ben_vulpes: fukkin payroll
ben_vulpes: split?
ben_vulpes: 'fyiad' << worst part about living here is the misery endured to scrape food credits together
ben_vulpes: qa for the foundation - what a gig
ben_vulpes: and my poor aws instance is laaaaaboring
ben_vulpes: and a more-or-less patched-up-to-date-with-mailing-list dynamically linked build
ben_vulpes: i'm endeavoring to sync a portatronic build
ben_vulpes: 0.7.2.W
ben_vulpes: do you even have your keys handy?
ben_vulpes: !up pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'll let you know when i get there
ben_vulpes: good job, boys.
ben_vulpes: so the towelheads humilated kaspersky, sending him to twitter for help?
ben_vulpes: dictionary* attacks i mean to say.
ben_vulpes: man security world must be even more esl than i was given to understand
ben_vulpes: password attacks don't cross languages?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell the_scourge hey ninjashogun managed to crap more lines into the log over a longer time than you. howzat feel?
ben_vulpes: there was this hilarious embedded ram arms race
ben_vulpes: also had all the sony cd players that did mp3s before portable hdds were a thing
ben_vulpes: also had a creative jukebox
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i had a rio riot
ben_vulpes: twice!
ben_vulpes: i'm in the top 12 for the past twelve months
ben_vulpes: HAH
ben_vulpes: which reminds me: http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/
ben_vulpes: gotta leave something between the lines.
ben_vulpes: now ives is steering things and they're trumpeting their solar deals, working on 'watches' and spreading rumors about tesla acquisitions.
ben_vulpes: apple only worked because there was one guy at the helm.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what, you think i don't get this?
ben_vulpes: had a great internal db.
ben_vulpes: and it was *fast*
ben_vulpes: glowed this beautiful neon orange.
ben_vulpes: the buttons were physically separated from the scroll wheel
ben_vulpes: this was actually the best design they ever produced.
ben_vulpes: ah, no it's there
ben_vulpes: http://www.atpm.com/9.08/ipod.shtml << here we go
ben_vulpes: http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1353 << this page is actually omitting the best ipod that was ever released
ben_vulpes: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-COLLECTORS-Apple-iPod-classic-2ND-Generation-MAC-10-GB-ORIGINAL-BOX-/181536114101?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a446545b5
ben_vulpes: i gave one away recently
ben_vulpes: aw, really?
ben_vulpes: i used nearly every mpwhater whatever object during that time
ben_vulpes: those early ipods were phenomenally well designed.
ben_vulpes: http://www.goethe.de/ges/umw/prj/kuk/fot/roj/enindex.htm << apropos of nothing, really
ben_vulpes: whatever the fuck that means
ben_vulpes: 12.0.1.26
ben_vulpes: baffling.
ben_vulpes: this is topologically identical to the "Surface" shitshow, where when the retarded windows touch ui gets in your way you can get rid of it and go back to classic windows, with which one interacts with a stylus.
ben_vulpes: and the old ui returns, nearly unmolested
ben_vulpes: if you switch to "songs" view then the right arrow does the expected thing
ben_vulpes: oh wait
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: highlights the next album, displaying its tracklist.
ben_vulpes: another amusing tidbit from apple's wholesale collapse in quality on the desktop: no longer does the right arrow in iToonz skip to the next track.
ben_vulpes: now there's a great conspiraci(!) theory
ben_vulpes: these unqualified pronouns don't work too well
ben_vulpes: mmeyer: "it" << what, though?
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: <mmeyer> quite in here << you did make it, yes :P
ben_vulpes: mmeyer, eh?
ben_vulpes: 'tis another knob to turn. if instead of rewriting the bastard storage mechanism, one could leverage the network protocol to reduce the number of bastards per wad sent over the wire, it might alleviate some pain.
ben_vulpes: re: bastards, has anyone experimented with the number of blocks requested?
ben_vulpes: i'd no idea, actually.
ben_vulpes: ah ha
ben_vulpes: what does it buy one?
ben_vulpes: Adlai: what's the goal of running multiple bots in the same lisp image?
ben_vulpes: oh the life of a webdev monkey
ben_vulpes: comment blocks left unchanged
ben_vulpes: variable names changed
ben_vulpes: found thirty lines copied 3 times each
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> shoul;dn't that really be a function/object/we ? << being a bit sarcastic here boss
ben_vulpes: reusable code means code you can copy and paste elsewhere in your codebase
ben_vulpes: i dismiss the upgrade notification each and ev-er-y day.
ben_vulpes: PeterL: kudos to you
ben_vulpes: .1 btc sez it's because i refuse to upgrade to 10.10
ben_vulpes: the amusing thing is how their "airdrop" shit doesn't work either.
ben_vulpes: on mine as well.
ben_vulpes: sharing is on.
ben_vulpes: PeterL: i'm pretty savvy with the os x shit.
ben_vulpes: way to break functionality that's just worked.
ben_vulpes: good job apple.
ben_vulpes: he can't even see mine from his machine.
ben_vulpes: i can see the guy's laptop, can't even open the "dropbox".
ben_vulpes: fucking nothing.
ben_vulpes: functionality that's worked for what, a decade?
ben_vulpes: i just tried to share a folder from one mac to another
ben_vulpes: just...slander
ben_vulpes: still can if you want to
ben_vulpes: slander!
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> so war on drugs that are powders ? gases are ok ? << don't forget plants
ben_vulpes: lady v loved cunt-in-a-box btw
ben_vulpes: heh great
ben_vulpes: lots of lulz and drama to be had there.
ben_vulpes: or macronutrient ratios?
ben_vulpes: have we done exercise strategies yet?
ben_vulpes: i missed ya
ben_vulpes: welcome back nubbins`
ben_vulpes: "Why, he will be castigated by the authority, cast out by the other doctors, and no longer be able to call himself a doctor." << rarely happens in the ussa, but this place is a hellhole.
ben_vulpes: what a time to be alive.
ben_vulpes goes to bed, asciilifeform goes to rebuild the universe.
ben_vulpes: stake?
ben_vulpes: who is drepper anyways?
ben_vulpes: disregard i eat cocks
ben_vulpes: is drepper the shitgnome or did drepper find the thing?
ben_vulpes: punkman: me neither.
ben_vulpes: ABSOLUTELY UNRELATED
ben_vulpes: end of times and all that fun stuff.
ben_vulpes: wai wut? i thought bezzling was a good thing.
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.5.3/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#L210 ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/v0.7.2/src/rpcblockchain.cpp#L12
ben_vulpes: "disproportionate" is in there too.
ben_vulpes: bb's trollin.
ben_vulpes: i am not accustomed to being responsible for female cleanliness!
ben_vulpes: i've always been amused by the "bend over and get it wet" approach, but i'm a total noob.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: post your x86 auto.sh on the listserv ? << any reason to not run with -xeu?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> and yet you savages still don't have cunt basins as a regular fixture, amirite ? << why's the shower so inadequate?
ben_vulpes: my stovetop vent vents into the apartment.
ben_vulpes: <thestringpuller> asciilifeform: random question. If someone paid for you to take Buterin's C4 (Certified Bitcoin Professional) exam, would you do it? << wait, CBP is a Buterin project?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i carried it. << btcauditor when
ben_vulpes: what's the context of all the "schoolgirls"?
ben_vulpes: understand it."
ben_vulpes: Whenever it came time for his daily bowl of soup he would look around for the nearest "girl" and ask if she would fetch it to him. It did not matter if she was the cook, an engineer, or the president of the company. I once asked a female engineer who had just been a victim of this if it bothered her. "Yes, it really annoys me," she said. "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could
ben_vulpes: wolfram worked with feynman at Thinking Machines?!
ben_vulpes: p funny
ben_vulpes: real20m17.054s
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: time ./auto.sh
ben_vulpes recompiles on local vm with actual beef to it.
ben_vulpes: aside from having the thing actually be programmable, but that's apparently a nonstarter in our world.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the only pills i'm aware of are pouring capital into refining the interface and training the intended customers.
ben_vulpes: i'd no idea that compiling a static bitcoind would take quite so much memory. then again, it's loading all of boost and dbb and openssl - does all of the above need to reside in memory at the same time?
ben_vulpes: again, shlomiel.
ben_vulpes: pauper's vps.
ben_vulpes: obj, obj, obj...Killed.
ben_vulpes: no, 'twas all.
ben_vulpes: ram, likely.
ben_vulpes: (subject of the portatron: "g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus) ")
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: and did you spend a similar amount of time attempting to 'work' the same way in 'the gimp'?
ben_vulpes: why?
ben_vulpes: my mind is blown.
ben_vulpes: and i mean for hours, weeks at a stretch?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: have you ever worked with photoshop, illustrator et al?
ben_vulpes: every little feature squireled away a million menus down
ben_vulpes: oh jesus this is going to be like gimp isn't it
ben_vulpes: ah hey freecad looks okay
ben_vulpes: i can't recall if i ever bumped into freecad.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'trololol' < i suppose that part sheets, dimensional tolerancing and what have you are part of my base assumptions for part fab.
ben_vulpes: one of the things that gently nudged me into my current slavery
ben_vulpes: the best part about labview is how once a person builds a reasonably complex thing in it they and only they can really understand where all the pipes go and where all the data is and how control moves around
ben_vulpes: oh jesus labview
ben_vulpes: "does it fit" << doubly so in the context of assemblies.
ben_vulpes: 6-axis doolie to move the object around in space; select faces and planes on which to draw shapes and sweep/extrude them through space.
ben_vulpes: decimation: it's actually very fast and intuitive once you've learned the interfaces.
ben_vulpes: !s co-processor from:asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: it's one of those few interfacing problems that i don't really think is suited to a textual abstraction.
ben_vulpes: i wasn't programming when i was a hot modeler.
ben_vulpes: well, i don't know.
ben_vulpes: nah.
ben_vulpes: mm but pure text part description?
ben_vulpes: and in fact that is how good part design should be done.
ben_vulpes: decimation: they both support defining parts parametrically.
ben_vulpes: that you gotta check against single dimension approximations to make sure it's not haring off into impossiblespace
ben_vulpes: full multiphysics sims
ben_vulpes: inventor fusion's pretty sweet.
ben_vulpes: last time i checked the answer to "assemblies?" was "lolwut" and i stopped paying attention.
ben_vulpes: it has been a few years since i looked at the "open" cadcam "solutions".