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Adlai: Logged on 26-08-2015 02:57:57; Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2015#1252204 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principle reason i'm here is that convenient nucleation in the superheated fluid of trollcoin
gernika: BingoBoingo: something's wrong with this sentence I think: "Vaizey instead want to part the buyer and his purchase to part in a sale as has happened previously when 'cultural' export bans have been applied to artifacts."
thestringpuller: mod6 def knows the type.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: but very commonly they (at least the native ones) have 'agricultural face'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: all levels
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i'ma let you finished but what level of hotness are the sorority girls at said uni?
asciilifeform: and the required reading dir is full of 'whitepapers' concerning 1990s-style centralized shitpal-esque 'coins'
asciilifeform: they were assigned 'digital currencies'
BingoBoingo was surptised when joining #bitcoin-asset-trades just how much stuf didn't make the cut for arriving here
asciilifeform: sooo i was out walking by the uni, and found a thumb drive
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << l0l, i always imagined mircea_popescu had a wooden panel full of analogue gauges for mpex, a ship's telegraph for changing course, and a speaking horn for dictating more complex orders << I imagine at times even the ships captain wants to step away from the bridge for a bit of sodomy without being completely cut off
assbot: Logged on 26-08-2015 00:00:08; assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
BingoBoingo prefers those nice well paved country roads that don't have marked "lanes" (because why mark up the tarmac when tractors obliviate much things?)
Adlai: and unfortunately (from the perspective of "fail earlier oftener louder faster stronger") usually just results in returning to the lane
Adlai: nah, actually leaving the lane is clearer
trinque: never a clearer sign the guy isn't
mats: he was high and literally said, "i'm not going to crash the car, man" five seconds before he went off the road
mats: the driver hadn't turned off the dance music yet and it felt like i was in a B rated movie
BingoBoingo: I like to think of QE as the bog the car was driven into because OMG a skunk. To avoid the pain of a honest crash the doors became embeded too deep to allow exit from the vehicle
trinque: heh, the QE was a mudslide that lifted the car up, carried it along in the same direction for a bit
BingoBoingo: You have to hit something for it to be a crash. If your car goes off the road and sink into the mud, but it stopped because of mud and not impact it wasn't a crash.
trinque: BingoBoingo: sounds a bit like this news I'm reading of the "market rally" "disintegrating".
BingoBoingo: “This is a mess,” said Jana Chamblee, who lives with her husband, Don, and their three children. “This is the biggest mess I’ve had in my life.” ... Chamblee and others on the block point to a house behind them, where Maritha Hunter-Butler has lived since May 9. She moved in with her three sons, a female partner and their four dogs. The neighbors say the dogs bark at all hours of the night, visitors constantly come and g
assbot: Logged on 25-05-2015 23:34:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-05-2015#1144802 << apparently this is not obvious, but the principal reason i'm here is that convenient packaging of mpex tickers.
Adlai: anybody who really cares that much should be in -trades or have their own feed
mod6: everytime i see that stuff on the shelf, i think, "this shit is a metephor for the whole goddamn thing."
punkman: protip: if your peanut butter doesn't develop a layer of oil at the top, it probably has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it
punkman: I wonder, do they sell bottles of "cooking oil" in US supermarkets? (where you have to read the fine print to figure out what it's made of)
mod6: but maybe im pierogie heathen
mod6: i got these ones from a lady from .ua at the farmers makert. instructions on the top said "don't cook in water", don't cook if frozen. so I let 'em thaw overnight. then just put 'em in a pan with a bit of cooking oil. simmered 'em until golden. tasted great to me!
mircea_popescu: how to bother people, entry #985468546 : pronounce adult as "a dolt". insist.
Adlai assures the concerned members of the audience that this is not from shitfinex... anybody who's written exchange APIs will probably recognize this
phf: or mp way, which is a lot more deliberate then mine, because i only ever fry leftover dumplings that were previously cooked. in any case you want the insides to get cooked too, so if you're deep frying them straight you want to cook insides first, then wrap in own dough, then fry the result
mircea_popescu: and i guarantee you they'll continue to have all the "market share" they had before : 0 actual users, a few confused people with their quarter btc and otherwise, the whole might and noise of the usg.
mircea_popescu: broomstick fires first, speaks after, it's a land of magical puffery over there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta say something to salvage the pretense.
mircea_popescu: mats you need one of those wire whisks. get the water to boiling, lower them into the water, give them ~90 seconds. take out, let them drip fully, then deepfry.
phf: mats: you probably overcooked them so they started falling apart
mats: ive tried that before and it ruined them
thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/636258874606133248 >> We are experiencing data corruption issues and will be offline until corrected. Sorry for the inconvenience.
phf: mod6: you want to cook them in water for a bit first, and then fry them once they are cooked
mod6: I'm about to try to fry up some of these cheese & potato pierogies .. any tips ? just fry 'em until golden brown ?
asciilifeform: mod6: first payload, then sig
mod6: so if we do <patchname>.<wotGuy>.sig then will fail
mod6: these sigs that you posted won't verify out-of-the box, not that i've tried. but the detached sig must match the file name with the exception of the trailing .sig on the end.
mircea_popescu: "helps you better understand the role of mp in shaping the 21st century"
mircea_popescu: same as the painting, really.
asciilifeform: betcha they're at least mildly authenticable.
asciilifeform: wonder what the ashes are worth
asciilifeform: for bonus points, buy that little stove in ro they used earlier
mircea_popescu: send the "minister of culture" the ash.
mircea_popescu: maybe the guy should rape some teenagers ? apparently it's how you get shit done in the queen's realms.
mircea_popescu: lol @the uk.
mod6: that way a person can find the tarballs, etc.
mod6: alright, i'll leave them off, and maybe just leave a linkback in the body to your message.
asciilifeform: mod6: once 'v' is live, it can be retrofitted to the turdatron directly
mod6: asciilifeform: I see you attached the sigs for the vpatch files, and included the tarballs in your orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) email. I think it'd like to attach the raw .vpatch files as well as the .sigs for completeness. Anything against this other than it's a bit redundant since you already posted the tarballs of the .vpatches?
asciilifeform: 'The government hopes that by blocking the painting from export there will be time for a new, serious buyer to come forward.'
trinque cranks the R.E.M., kicks back
punkman: from Syria, to Kos and Lesvos, to the promised land of Germany and Sweden
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcwrt )
asciilifeform: that wasn't the concern
funkenstein_: it seems thats the bottleneck
asciilifeform: is the usual excuse.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: possibly for the reason i mentioned
asciilifeform: they perhaps were not quite good enough for pgp, but for this - perfect
asciilifeform: to them, the spoils ?
asciilifeform: my only misgiving about this is if you stop and think who's been baking factoratrons for the past 20 yrs.
mircea_popescu: in general, as it has been correctly observed and oft repeated, the simpler the gun, the worse for the state.
punkman: mircea_popescu: how's the hash pow related to ec?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the hash-and-nonce approach to pow originally proposed is quite obviously hackery.
fluffypony: but I haven't checked the last few commits on BSD, so it's entirely possible we broke something
fluffypony: head should build if you "make release-static" and have the depsa
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punkman: "If you are part of the PGP strong set or your PGP key is on bitcoin-otc you now have a timestamp. Take your PGP fingerprint and convert that into a Bitcoin address and you'll find a 1 satoshi payment to it"
assbot: Improving the trustworthyness of PGP keys with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHbJNh )
mircea_popescu: check out gavin from 2011 : "What's the extra CPU cost for recovering the public key? Current bottleneck for bitcoin transaction processing is the CPU cost of ECDSA signature verification, not disk space or bandwidth, so saving bytes at the expense of more CPU is not the right thing to do."
assbot: ECDSA Signatures allow recovery of the public key ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHayNO )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform funnily, the "corner silver market" was the opposite mistake. ie, "we'll make thius a 500 bn system for no reason"
asciilifeform: 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: so dead that not even a copy of the paper can be turned up.
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somehow no one is foolish enough to make the mistake in, e.g., aluminum market
mircea_popescu: same is true of monets, but the exponential's going the other way
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: easily into the multiple millimonets, for a typical case
mircea_popescu: this is the point easily missed. "oh, bitcoin is a 5 bn dollar system". no it's fucking not lol.
mircea_popescu: the same's true throughout.
mircea_popescu: you think the fucktards writing "gawker" and all its clones are getting paid ? thjey aren't. they do it because i won't take them to work for qntra, and they imagine that if they persevere they can somehow prevail without needing to actually do the hard work.
mircea_popescu: people in the camp work for a) promises of future and b) mortgage-and-meal tickets.
mircea_popescu: " whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them" <<< ahahahaha. fucking DOH. not even usg is this fucking stupid. albeit this is not deliberately, just, the low level idiots have no access to any btc and the high level doods know better. but for that matter : usg employees don't even get fiat.
mircea_popescu: but by the time one talks forks to that level, some sort of much different bitcoin would be on the table anyway. with ring signatures and various other items.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's plenty applicable, if one talks forks.
mircea_popescu: predictably, pool ops do not like the idea at all.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery.
assbot: CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxA8 )
asciilifeform was contemplating the apparent fact that: whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them. hence there is likely massive enthusiasm for anything that smacks of destroying or at least defiling bitcoin, on grounds of sheer envy
mircea_popescu: which... whatevs. growing up happens to the best of 'em.
mircea_popescu: there's an immense pile of people who "don't agree with mp" as if that's some sort of vanity prop.
asciilifeform does not know anything else about herr gogulski, other than the incident where he publicly burned his u.s. passport and formally renounced citizenship
mircea_popescu: the only shit that's bad is still in your head, yo.
assbot: You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit.
punkman: kakobrekla: no that's when petertodd sent the money to Dillon
punkman: the 5.1099 btc was sent on 2013-11-16
mircea_popescu looks for the "as mp said a few months ago", doesn't find it, doesn't give a shit.
punkman: so petertodd loaned John Dillon 5.1 btc, which he then sent to gmaxwell, to https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV which is tagged "DPR seized coins"?
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asciilifeform: ... and it appear that i'm ~still~ the only one keeping public therealbitcoin nodez ?? are folks waiting for the version string thing (imho pretty useless...) or what ?
asciilifeform: all of this reminds me of the famous sovderpitude re: phone tap installation
mircea_popescu: anyway, the whole as is down, being worked on, dulap should be back later.
mircea_popescu: these guys are impossible anyway
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, ima translate it in a second then
mircea_popescu: prolly went to sergent blackforce the 9th power or w/e
kakobrekla: so the 5 btc went to buy silk road stuff ?
kakobrekla: ah ok then
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 13:20:26; kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251766 << i recall this tidbit of shisdom peppered throughout the "conversation"
asciilifeform: much entomological sample, so scarce the ddt.
asciilifeform: (spoiler: it's the paste from last night.)
asciilifeform: apparently no one gave a shit then, either.
assbot: A leak in the bitcoin reddit, shows private messages between bitcoin developers included litecoin head developer : litecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWm0Wn )
mircea_popescu: lemme dig it up, then you can watch it then i can say something pithy about it
mircea_popescu: you ever seen the robotzi re parachutes ?
mircea_popescu: i'm curious if the size of that empire will allow the young and clueless mining derps be squashed by decade-old us foreign policy technology that their older, more politically central counterparts have long ago figured how to sink
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the chinese are actually fucktarded enough to allow usg to not get its wish but nevertheless move the window in not getting it, we'll probably not only de-thread it but rewrite the whole sheband, and with a better pow algo at that.
asciilifeform: could, theoretically, do this port even now, if one were to 'de-thread' the thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, our friends' apparently well intended conundrum is i think illustrative for the woe betid the modern man, asked to come up with "votes" on matters so far removed from his understanding.
asciilifeform: i worked it out. the only interrupt handlers one even needs, are a) timer b) nic frame ring buffer (tx, rx) full/empty.
mircea_popescu: no argument. was just pounding the more theoretical side of things.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'single task' in the sense of there not being a timeslicer
mircea_popescu: i do not think there ever existed a "single task programmable computer" yet, in spite of convincing early ibm emulation. you either get signal processing or multi tasking
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the nic knows how to dma, recall.
mircea_popescu: and who watches the ethercard ?
mircea_popescu: just the fact that "these pages don't get swapped" would prolly 3x the whole thing or some shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: best kernel improvement is to single-task the thing
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 13:16:07; asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
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lobbes: ;;later tell trinque is deedbot- handling phuctor now too? No worries either way; I just want to make sure our gears are turning in-sync
asciilifeform: the former - yours, the latter - mine
asciilifeform: none, it's the dropoff
mircea_popescu: i mean... what's the connection between core11.hetzner.de and verizon-gni.net
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform dunno, seems to be blackholed somehow. the server itself is fine. the looking into continues.
lobbes: thestringpuller: lol. Well there's somethin' about the 'pure' nicotine that doesn't do it for me with e-cigs. Though BB's point about MAOI persisting in 'traditional' tobacco smoke perhaps makes more sense
assbot: These Kids Made The Most Genius Basketball Trick Shot Video Of All-Time - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4tfjQ )
thestringpuller: and the delivery to the lungs is much more efficient.
thestringpuller: i've always thought e-cigs can wane you off more easily than other things because you can cram so much nicotine in the juice
thestringpuller: lol lobbes you crave the bad stuff of cigarettes lol?
phf: asciilifeform: i think there's a range. there's an ecigar (not sure how it's called) place next door, which is favored by asians and blacks. actually pipes are large and made out of machined parts, but produce massive amounts of smoke. they source nicotine oil separately, and my impression is that you can get anything from dodgy chinese stuff with flavors like "coca cola bubble gum" to u.s. local hand extracted tobacco oil
BingoBoingo: A little soap can't be that bad for the lungs
BingoBoingo: I dunno if there is a cheaper way to get nicotine, even for pesticide than extracting from tobacco
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I have to imagine extracted. Even pesticide grade nicotine is typically extracted and then isolated to my knowledge. This package says extracted from tobacco, but RJ Reynolds is not in my WoT to the extent I can take that on face value.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: how is the 'juice' made ? i.e. clean mix of pesticidal-grade nicotine and flavourings, or is it actually squeezed from tobacco ?
assbot: Gainsbourg, The initials BB - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1hbJpWx )
BingoBoingo: lobbes: My theory is they need to include more than the nicotine. There's actually a pretty potent MAOI in tobacco that persists in the smoke
lobbes: I think I crave that as much as the nicotine heh
lobbes: to make them a true replacement though, I think they'd need to simulate the ammonia and arsenic et al.
lobbes: they have improved quite a bit. I remember when they were the size of markers. I had one once where the plastic mouthpiece would break at least once a month
asciilifeform: 'I apologise for my tardiness, but here is the 5.11BTC I promised for the CoinJoin effort.' << >> https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV
BingoBoingo: Ecigs might be the only thing in 'Murica that's gotten less shitty since 2012
BingoBoingo: Rep could tell I was a loyal RJ Reynolds customer though when I merely asked for smokes and the clerk new which kind
BingoBoingo: So far this one has adequate "burn" at the throat.
asciilifeform: these have usb port, or what
BingoBoingo: I went to the cigarette emporium at exactly the right time today. RJ Reynolds rep was there and offered for an additional $2 on top of the cigs I was buying one of these kits http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2427721,00.asp
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig << cool, sounds good.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches. << ok np.
asciilifeform: mod6: i recommend to follow the format nameofpatch.vpatch.mod6.sig
asciilifeform: mod6: don't bother signing the tarballs, they are included for completeness. the thing to be signed is vpatches.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000156.html << cool! i'll try to get mine signed here soon. today or tomorrow.
asciilifeform: anybody on the other side of the atlantic wanna post a traceroute 195.211.154.159 ?
wyrdmantis: kakobrekla: only idiots thinks that there must be no limit. the issue is WHERE to put this limit
kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts
asciilifeform: if interested in the subject, try to study - experimentally - how your cache works. recent (2007+) cpu from both major houses make this feasible.
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: for instance, there is more than one signature in a block !
assbot: Logged on 23-08-2015 15:08:04; wyrdmantis: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that
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mircea_popescu: fluffypony in fairness, if one did the same calculation for "artists", bellybutton lint would probably figure very high
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2015 01:22:58; mircea_popescu: either &lt; or something. esp <--- is a comment.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251301 << input parsing is hard yo just ask the pygpg people
mircea_popescu: which turns the name into "Avram takes it in the butt"
mircea_popescu: avram iancu is a romanian folk hero. famously a guy answered "describe in brief the life and activity of avram iancu" task by writing down the letter R
ben_vulpes: c4: "python so that the world might participate"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im not putting a biology section in there!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Or is griefing not the act of bringing grief upon people/beoble
BingoBoingo: So, I moved the Popescu, Ulbricht slate above the shitheads on that griefer site. No good reason why MP and RU should have low elo ratings.
BingoBoingo: I am never apologetic to randos on the interwebz
assbot: The Bitcoin thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1U3BnRD )
mircea_popescu: i am the only "political prisoner" on the list so to speak.
BingoBoingo: the 1418 is pretty weak though mircea_popescu, better fix that
BingoBoingo: Well, onto the qntra comments for the same. These things happen with increasing frequency.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli im not entirely sure what the fake node count does tbh.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There surprisingly hasn't been a qntra DoS that I have noticed since the XT'ening
felipelalli: They setup 3500 nodes in few minutes, low blow.
BingoBoingo: felipelalli: But not maximally funny. Better to keep therealbitcoin gearing low nao to better handle rocks. Gotta get pwer from the flywheel to the ground to climb a mountain
assbot: The Hard Fork: Will Bitcoin XT Take? - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6NJe )
BingoBoingo: "I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessment, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess." << IncrediLoL
mircea_popescu: still, derp gets the prize for paying attention.
mircea_popescu: "The latest Tweets from Andre Infante (@AndreTI). FutureTech editor at MakeUseOf. Game developer. Future savior of humanity. New Mexico."
mircea_popescu: nt, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess."
mircea_popescu: "Ironically, this is the second time I’ve run across Popescu in my writing. Popescu is a member of a group who call themselves “The Bitcoin Lordship,” who opposed a necessary increase in the Bitcoin block size for some very silly and shortsighted reasons. I remember thinking that he in particular was an ugly combination of paranoid, narcissistic, and downright mean. I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessme
BingoBoingo: They put out a polite invitation for the girls and their mums
assbot: Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1V61TqC )
gernika: thestringpuller: "However it does rise the humidity of the surrounding air" - should be "raise" - http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining/
hanbot puts a quarter in the dint'd raed jar
asciilifeform: hanbot: fix it then.
deedbot-: [Qntra] Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining - http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining/
mircea_popescu: to the true rabbit, shit is bread.
asciilifeform: but i don't expect to find the launch codes in there, no.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and if you got any more of these, they are prolly likewise enjoyable.
mircea_popescu: aok then
mircea_popescu: is the timewaste at least enjoyable ?
mircea_popescu mildly regrets having linked the turd sample.
assbot: 8 failing bitcoin businesses desperately demand computer code increase their stagnant userbase. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPZ1g4 )
trinque: the action movie phrasing of "let's just say..." overloads my bullshit-meter
asciilifeform: but it is an old-fashioned tool, does not check that barrel is not pointed at your temple before whacking the firing pin.
asciilifeform: actually linker oughtta know, the elf is marked
mircea_popescu: the linker wouldn't really have a way to know.
asciilifeform: hanbot: there we go.
asciilifeform: mats: which? the gcc linker happily munching soup ?
asciilifeform: 'We are unable to explain the true nature of these patches in public because they guard against absolutely terrible DoS exploits that can take down ANY Bitcoin node. So instead we called it, "Minor efficiency improvement in block peer request handling." which is somewhat true of the patch.'
mircea_popescu: the blonde without a piece of paper saying breathe and the usian without his cockhead in his own mouth would just fall over and die.
asciilifeform: you have a family your willingness to be a martyr diminishes. The same is true of many of my colleagues. Hopefully my support for Bitcoin can help undo some of the damage we've done, but I do have to be careful and it's tough to take all the precautions I need to to be able to communicate. If it was found out that I was involved with Bitcoin that way I have been, let's just say there would be consequences...'
asciilifeform: 'Just so you know this stuff about Tor has me worried... Please don't make this public, but my day job involves intelligence, and I'm in a relatively high position. You know, I went into the job years ago with very different thoughts about it than I do now. The last, well, decade really has changed a lot of minds in this field, in totally different ways. Myself I am on the side of Snowden and Assange, but... lets just say when
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I feel you there, my dosimeter has been peaked for a while
asciilifeform: 'FWIW adding SSL to the protocol is a fairly relatively non-invasive change. It might be worthwhile to implement that first as a means to test the developers you wish to hire to later implement partial mode.' << l0l!!
asciilifeform ought to visit the place where he has a vintage sgi octane-II rusting away, and port to that
hanbot: <asciilifeform> hanbot: dollars to doughnuts you built a x86-64 component and it somehow got linked ! << ah thanks. rather than cutting up binaries/recompiling with symbols i'm going to look at this, seems the more likely explanation.
asciilifeform: hanbot: or at least lemme have the binary
BingoBoingo: I really want to bring the filipinos USG pays for to USia to scrap the place collecting lipodiesel and biodiesel in the Iowan uranium mines.
mircea_popescu: http://www.fanatik.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/22/udrea1.jpg << for the record, this is the ass of romania's EX president's ex private secretary woman. pretty competent politician too.
mircea_popescu: i wonder who the fuck ever looked at her and thought "hey, i want her"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ahahaha. broke fat louse has rulesets ? << They have the strictest rulesets sinc ethey aren't getting fucked outside of an accident. They pretend scarcity of opportunities is standards.
asciilifeform just had mindfuck moment, read the title of that piece without realizing what language it was in
BingoBoingo: trinque: ANd for that purpose, gotta keep the cabin utilitarian so the help doesn't get temped to burn gas dicking around.
trinque: BingoBoingo: yeah, I've got no love for those giant ones aside from their utility re: actual work
mircea_popescu: anyway. they sorta-read ba, mostly indirectly, and pretend like they're their own item. which is... you know, most people out there anyway.
mircea_popescu: none of the names mentioned belong to anyone of any consequence, in bitcoin or in their immediate communities.
asciilifeform: from the operator's laziness ?
asciilifeform: i assumed that this was lifted off todd's hdd or the like
mircea_popescu: you can tell by all the breadcrumbs the use of pgp is so insecure it's outright spurious.
asciilifeform: who the fuq thought this belonged in a pgptron ?!
asciilifeform: 'Why not go ahead and say it? You know that Mike and similar will counter-argue that mining needs to be done by "responsible" central authority figures running pools, so let them make that bogus argument...'

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