(trilema) ben_vulpes: replaced it with dicks in blondes mouth
(trilema) ben_vulpes has purged the scambuffer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's more about returns to "talent" vs return to equity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: bankers being bad guys or not is really not part of the linked piece.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've read them, found them interesting and full of insight, but submit them for the forum for my own education.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: two links for your review:
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty bad dancing in that video tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: babe's got great tits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i can't even be fucking arsed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thermorectal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so they baked "free usg thermorecal exams" into the protocol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i see this sign every morning, yet this morning it brought to mind your...reprinting of the adams short.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/CWCOGkO
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: come now, nobody knows who you are or the girls are
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait hang on there was context for this conversation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: and if she hadn't it'd have been educational regardless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cazalla: yeah, just crack open the girl's facebook
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i read it to lady v on our morning stroll for great lulz.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: thanks for that adams short.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: A PETE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Vexual: you're a...nuke canoe! nuke canoe!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but you'll have to tell me how effective they are, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i think augur designs exist approximating this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: traveling wave dildo?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a million times no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no.d
(trilema) ben_vulpes: turbo?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: peristaltic!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "don't put yr pennies down, kid. you'll just lose 'em".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: well that doesn't sound like any fun now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: now for to find some time to 'play' 'games'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decimation: next time i'm in london i expect to see all sorts of historical engineering bits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 'eulora accounts' << "isambard vulpes" sil vous plait
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: deed it up?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "millers crossing" << ugh man that movie is badddd in places
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now that person's oddsmaking choices are totally obvious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why do people do that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I need a primer on that period.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this conversation is about airspace control.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: implying, gabriel_laddel?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't buy this 'controlled chaos'. isis is a mortal threat to the us (and all client states) and they desire desperately to wipe it out.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'gulf war' perhaps aside.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've yet to see them achieve one thing they set out to, in my entire life of watching them ferry soldiers across the sea.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: give me a break.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't they just retain some 20k unseasoned mercs to go after a mob of kalash-equipped pashtuns?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you vastly overestimate their abilities.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and why (why why why?!) must everything be about enraging the insane bear in the room?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the rest of the world doth not operate so insanely.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a strictly us problem, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd rather leverage my wot for landing sites and refuelers.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i probably didn't know enough to make it work when i attempted it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that prototype never worked and has long since been consigned to my parents dustbin.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the power to weight ratio just *always* turns me off.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maybe the trick is to leverage existing industrial commodity electrical motors and do something clever with the batteries.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or maybe not! maybe i'm crazy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: batteries are still bogus.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: remember when all the children went out after...yes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the chinese!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i still do not see a need for this wacky battery of yours.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: construction fundamentals are well understood, automatics well understood (granted by fewer people)...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes well do away with the $maxint vehicle cert process, $maxint operator training...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: flying below ceiling at which all objects are 'trivially' observable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: correct.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cessnas*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're familiar i'm sure with the near-disposable cessna's thrown over america's southern border, stuffed to the gills with $substance?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'well patrolled' << i'm pretty sure that 50+ sneak through for every single one busted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol nowhere near as expensive as their payloads are valuable.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are the S.A. submersibles.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but do share your design envelope, i'm very curious what sorts of requirements you're considering that require some crazy one-shot battery.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it needs to go that far, put an ice on it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: missing variable: delivery distance.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's a pessimistic cone.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tough cookies.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: $thing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: if the thing's reasonably robust, a parabolic delivery trajectory should suffice.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google bull run reservoir
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;google Bull Run
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: nope.
(trilema) ben_vulpes giving the whole armsmithing game away for some reason
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm more interested in single-shot and extremely cheap.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what of it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, it's just some guys having fun.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: submarine was more useful.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: motor aside.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moreover, a largely useless project.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: orthogonal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not unindustrial, though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: monofilament's pretty low cost.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the *real* value though, is in the strategist given free reign to be creative.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: these designs have value.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dream.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: those who do in these parts - aren't interested in novel strategies or applications of commodity technology
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, armsmithing for the next engagements is terribly interesting and entirely impossible to do from where i am.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well yes, improvements in performance and reductions in cost exercises for not even terribly alert reader.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "one year, no distractions."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i could make these things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is a reason i call this kind of document torture.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> very basic maths << so much so that even i did them in 'uni'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: gorgeous diagrams. thank you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: IFF mechanism << another application for asymmetric crypto.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh your paradigms are infectious.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's no reason why these things should cost $MAXINT, aside from the prohibition on owning the constituent materials for any not favorite son.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "igla" << why must you torture me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i must learn more incantations, apparently.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not...readily.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least that bends somewhat to grep.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would rather be working on satoshi c++.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and yes - drinking. albeit lightly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: loading the "rails" stack into my head.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you know what i'm doing right now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: morose*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ugh this conversation makes me downright mournful
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this brings back my hankering for real time optimization problems.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aside from the sims.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, there's a recursive aspect to the problem.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's to work out?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: superimposed waves traveling through wire applying force at arbitrary points?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we don't even have computers that cooperate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grey goo pipe dreams.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: several joints, some tension mechanisms and some springs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: purpose built mechanisms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as a guy who's cobbled together the odd machine or two, the notion that you can have a million little bits cooperating to give you the power of a purpose-designed driveshaft one moment and slither through a keyhole the next strikes me as wankery of the first degree.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: especially and in particular the underwater stuff.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you still have to program the meta layer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: map servers and massively parallel SLAM
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm more interested in underactuated systems.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cursory inspection reveals nothing interesting.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll *keep* looking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) it's all usg "tin woman" crap
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'm actually pretty disgusted with "modern" "robotics"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so you claim.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is not the war you grew up idolizing. it's war, which means it's going to be horrible and unpleasant for all involved.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <decimation> what's wrong with enslaving yourself to someone better?, <asciilifeform> decimation: nothing - it's called army << do reconsider la serenissima in this light
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s 40k
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: is that *your* harem's burn rate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> if someone sent me 100k (magically, tax-free) i'd do... what? take 3 mo. off, spend the next 9 looking for next gig ? << good grief your burn rate, man.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sets the tone, you know?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: portland's a moderately kinky town.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: everyone.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> and blondy in black dress over there's almost hawt. << reminds me of the intro line newcomers to pdx-burningman were subjected to without fail for years, presumably if the political correctness mob hasn't gotten to them yet still are: "are you hot?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: skinned counterstrike or some such?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: perianne.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh and dealing with the output of people who "like it".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: programming requires obscene mental contortions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: work requires only energy.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i appreciated your point about hating programming recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes goes to buy a bottle of wine to fuel the ruby rage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i'd guess that many folks can't even think about this subject without their brain melting from rage << a good eighth of my time is spent talking smart young guys down out of a shartup-inspired rage attack
(trilema) ben_vulpes checks to see if a > 1mb block is floating around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: walk where? wants grant money for himself as a result of the discovery?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (people can't do "crosseye"?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "failed to live...and impose their existence upon those children" << i'm a bit confused about the "give up, make way for the next generation" attitude when put next to the "parents should impose their existence upon their children".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: see also kibbutz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'komunalki' < hm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure there's some fatalistic reasoning against buying property and renting it out in this scenario
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'chocolate'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: does the political power du jour really go so far as to entirely alienate the rentiers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how do rentals fare in this model?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i shall
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm interested in the survivor's tale. taking notes on how to get the least fucked.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'reinventing collapse'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is orlov's account of the soviet collapse halfway accurate?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tax credits for sales to favorite sons.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'opportunity grants'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why go through the trouble of confiscating, when again, funds for disbursement to the 'blessed poor' can be routed to the homebuilders?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even then, there's miles of pressed shitboard that can yet be erected.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are no ethnic minorities around here, and won't be for another decade easily.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: payroll*.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: confiscation isn't likely to compare with taxes pulled in from payrol..
(trilema) ben_vulpes: politically useful. see the routine audits of whoever's not in power.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why bother? just print more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'porsche' << civil forfeiture, not terrism.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: harumph
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/26/nyregion/3-men-in-brooklyn-charged-supporting-isis.html?_r=0
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's an abysmal cycle.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:32] what does ben_vulpes do with his apple boxen? just throws them out when disk fills ? << generally, backup disk, format, give to pets and or repurpose as misc. computing devices around the house/office.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how was vaycay?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wine and sutff calls.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, it's fri.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my point is that large fractions of a planet's worth of btc are already bet on btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps talk to others who are risking 'a planet' worth of btc already on...extant btc.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the life insurance policies are dwarfed by the operational costs and value of the machine in question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well bitcoin ain't an airplane.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've not the planet.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thing works, what.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cannot be avoided?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: paha.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: excruciating subset doesn't hurt?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: when did you become a fan of provably anything software?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: i really don't see what mpex has to do with freenode's swiss cheese.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways for the record, feel free to query me at any time for a signature.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://lightning.network/lightning-network.pdf << scaling, sidechains, derpage.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: divorcing my bouncer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whaddaya take me for, some kind of poofy oz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oi mate i don't dick around with bounders
(trilema) ben_vulpes read, noticed.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're running some interesting experiments, asciilifeform.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "FDIC Insurance"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "who am i with my white cis-gendered privilege to pass judgement on such a masterpiece?"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dang.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'clojure' << lol how'd you get that level of hatred up?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i started with vim - i know somewhat whereof i speak.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: granted, nothing that vim doesn't do (poorly)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tags browser...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: text editor, debugger, grep wrapper, vcs wrapper, irc client...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is the point of using emacs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: emacs in x11
(trilema) ben_vulpes: os x
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and progressively less as i sharpen my sword/till my garden.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fine, you got me. not "never", but only under duress.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: stack?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: do you take me for a menu-traverser?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i never take my hands off the keyboard.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: who said anything about mice?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cutting and pasting etc must fit within emacs text manipulation paradigms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for instance, i hate weechat and irssi.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: emacs - not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: htop - good
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but for other things, it is not.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's good for the things for which it is good
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: re tmux etc like alf, i pretty much refuse to work in a terminal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: be stupid like me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: x11 tunnel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: put emacs on a remote host
(trilema) ben_vulpes: give up
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've no idea what you mean...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hungry arrow keys?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all i really know is how to ask about what others do and run my own experiments.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't really know enough to laugh.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what typeface do you use?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the most obvious route to me at the time was to run emacs in a terminal on a remote host.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i like manipulating text in emacs, but wanted a persistent connection to b-a.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: novice's bouncer.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all for want of a workstation, i suppose.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: followed by emacsclient crashing emacs --daemon every time the x11 frame disappeared