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ben_vulpes: it pins the protocol
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> mod6 i should stress that *none* of the hardening options are included in that makefile, and it really should not be used for anything other than reference << see, reference y'all
ben_vulpes: <nubbins`> ben_vulpes mod6 mircea_popescu and other interested parties: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=uJQDaKcz << neat
ben_vulpes: couldn't resist, boss
ben_vulpes: you like things?
ben_vulpes: that's a lot of dust...
ben_vulpes: dc air must be miserable
ben_vulpes: a cm?!
ben_vulpes: yeah, that.
ben_vulpes: since when is the pogo my project?
ben_vulpes: no shit.
ben_vulpes: for pogos?
ben_vulpes just cracked the craptop
ben_vulpes: see malice and incompetence.
ben_vulpes: blocks for the block god
ben_vulpes: aws, however, haas not.
ben_vulpes: i've lost track of how many times i've done it.
ben_vulpes: 'tis a miserable march.
ben_vulpes: hear hear
ben_vulpes suspects a sybil
ben_vulpes: hence the startup as flamethrower fueled by bezzlars metaphor.
ben_vulpes: burning suckers' cash always is.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell nubbins care to share your darwin recipe?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i need something beyond "turd" now
ben_vulpes: okay fine, share your recipe
ben_vulpes: 30 minutes is for strangers
ben_vulpes: the voice persists with your connection
ben_vulpes: it's not so bad
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c i've got high hopes for the wot-site -- you set a high bar with WoL
ben_vulpes: now's your chance to !up yourself, marteen
ben_vulpes: !gettrust brendafdez
ben_vulpes: oh, ah.
ben_vulpes: as far as the wot goes, you are actually the newest member.
ben_vulpes: brendafdez: you must be new here :P
ben_vulpes: "couldn't agree more, dear."
ben_vulpes: although, entertainingly, every day the election cycle grows closer, babe-o-tron grows more insistent about spending 2016 out of the country.
ben_vulpes: still fueling this rocket over here.
ben_vulpes: kind of only insofar as it might get me lower price tickets
ben_vulpes: interested in derpy small-scale arbitrage opportunities.
ben_vulpes: i hope you're happy, jnerula...
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.brendafdez.1:285f1f9f410f44c13ace2538b25bd5d53eec2cc674b822e19fc67a1a35827a2f
ben_vulpes: !rate brendafdez 1 blood for the blood god
ben_vulpes: hm well try it and let me know, eh?
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.marteen.1:7944d2caed41fbbd7aa09e713e695bfc06bea154bf64946071175cb7f764ac6f
ben_vulpes: !rate marteen 1 new blood
ben_vulpes: brendafdez: just out of curiosity, do many people have things delivered across the river and shuttle them over via ferry?
ben_vulpes: full fingerprint, marteen. "long", as they say.
ben_vulpes: well duh, assbot.
ben_vulpes: !register 15F6BD45240C4679C5F559B5050434ED71A1704C
ben_vulpes: marteen, you'll want to register with assbot for this crowd.
ben_vulpes: in more ways than one
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2015#1064798 << oh come now it's because your salesforce is down there and sales is nasty dirty work programmer folk hate to do.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i give up, how are a practicing gynecologist and a healthy dog the same?
ben_vulpes: then you must've been there!
ben_vulpes: we all know how the bsasians are about their 'security'
ben_vulpes: no, wot participation.
ben_vulpes: that's your insecurity speaking.
ben_vulpes: difference being...
ben_vulpes: whereas indiancandy is just that hilarious hoo-er
ben_vulpes: brendafdez is that weird chick from ba
ben_vulpes: nobody's going to take you seriously until you buy in
ben_vulpes: marteen: basically it's a gpg-backed ident thinger
ben_vulpes: hyuuu
ben_vulpes: yous ay it
ben_vulpes: trinque: plz to not overload !help
ben_vulpes: oh god now i'm getting spammed by bots
ben_vulpes: !help
ben_vulpes: linked a bit back
ben_vulpes: dtsd << makes me think of that eegan story asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: marteen: get in the wot then, eh?
ben_vulpes: marteen, you savvy gpg?
ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot marteen
ben_vulpes: can it be ptsd if i'm still living the nightmare?
ben_vulpes: plz stahp
ben_vulpes: this triggers my america ptsd
ben_vulpes: no trigger plz
ben_vulpes: plea bargin for sex offender or fight us for your life
ben_vulpes: it actually comes down to the "fight me and see" attitude of the attorneys
ben_vulpes: piss in public - sex offender
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: everyone's a sex offender in the states.
ben_vulpes: marteen: what brings you around here?
ben_vulpes: look at the boys trying to gently inculcate sense into her
ben_vulpes: priceless
ben_vulpes: oh god this ubuntu from africa thread
ben_vulpes: howdy, you
ben_vulpes: marteen, eh?
ben_vulpes: <indiancandy1_> i dont get the wot thing mircea talkin about << righteous
ben_vulpes: he's a useful front, as i see it.
ben_vulpes: hardly exhaustive.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ascii_field not only that. the txn making is dust-agnostic. instead of optimizing to not create too small chunks, it just does whatever. << aggressively whatever. semi random selection of outputs, iirc.
ben_vulpes: well, most people.
ben_vulpes: everyone.
ben_vulpes: i've always assumed that if someone got access to the machine while hot, the coins were gone regardless.
ben_vulpes: its really the only sane model.
ben_vulpes: symmetric in my brain.
ben_vulpes: ya well duh.
ben_vulpes: stop bitcoind, move wallet back in, restart, sync wallet txns periodically.
ben_vulpes: encrypt wallet with gpg, move to safe location on disk, run without hot wallet.
ben_vulpes: stockholm.
ben_vulpes: but that's probably stockhol.
ben_vulpes: i don't see why plaintext is so bad, i mean to say.
ben_vulpes: i don't see why not.
ben_vulpes: that's deeeeeeep in the transaction creation code iirc.
ben_vulpes: oh hm.
ben_vulpes: what's wrong with it?
ben_vulpes: "this one neat trick to speed up blockchain sync time!"
ben_vulpes: "randomly"
ben_vulpes: perhaps to reduce bw waste, randomly ask for n-plicate copies of blocks from other nodes?
ben_vulpes: is redundant block downloading a horrible idea?
ben_vulpes: murder on my mind.
ben_vulpes: can one be?
ben_vulpes: PeterL: bit of column a, bit of column b.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> presently the cheapest way to fight back is to extract the 'magic' algorithms and make sure the patterns start to appear in inconvenient places << oh this is bril
ben_vulpes: ah it's so nice to see people building and running the RI
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: complete with "my mom" jokes...
ben_vulpes: <decimation> I just thought of a brilliant anti-'area denial' (to usg term) weapon system. imagine a small turboprop uav ... that can drop its wings and turn into kerosene rocket << why bother with expensive turbomachinery? just use solid propellants...
ben_vulpes: trinque: slaves to the wot
ben_vulpes: is the private key not adequate title?
ben_vulpes: how does title to bitcoins work?
ben_vulpes: mon dieu
ben_vulpes: catch y'all later.
ben_vulpes: "two weeks!"
ben_vulpes: trinque's a busy man. it'll get hammered into shape...eventually.
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: well check it out you got help eventually
ben_vulpes: deedbot-: help
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: did you prepend with 'deedbot-:' ?
ben_vulpes: ,next
ben_vulpes: so there ya go
ben_vulpes: deedbot-: <link hurr>
ben_vulpes: okay so you try it
ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot felipelalli
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: are you in assbot's l2?
ben_vulpes: jesus, you guys.
ben_vulpes: pahaha
ben_vulpes: no, i'm talking that which your lord and sovereign demands of you.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: taxation /i/ speak of is deedbot, nsa, phundation
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: yeah, the thread kicked off at "<ben_vulpes> trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all"
ben_vulpes: (and no, not really the latter)
ben_vulpes: we live a few blocks from each other, drink each others wine, fuck each others girls
ben_vulpes: he has his thing, and i mine.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, no not this year.
ben_vulpes: definitely in comparison to that required to survive in fiatland
ben_vulpes: taxation you, i trinque pay to la serenissima is rather small
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: interesting parallel
ben_vulpes: trinque's doing a major launch this week, i think we'll be lucky to get much of a peep out of him at all
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: re vultures < aaah
ben_vulpes: i'm just pointing out that pastebin's not allowed in these parts.
ben_vulpes: well i've no idea how trinque's configured deedbot-, that's not my problem.
ben_vulpes: lf/cr idiocy.
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: pastebin is banned.
ben_vulpes: decimation: "schmoes" << that they have anything to invest in the first place is due to the american democracy/communism thing, from there we quickly hit the "one day bitcoin will make us all royals, and when can i lop the peasants heads off again?" checkpoint
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> three vultures lost in the east. << i do not get this reference.
ben_vulpes: here we are again at the "no people outside the forum" checkpoint.
ben_vulpes: adoptee*
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how did octavianus meet his adoptees?
ben_vulpes: sipahi << yeah. that berber book's really good.
ben_vulpes: by their own stolen children.
ben_vulpes: worse, americans with a do-gooder complex.
ben_vulpes: there's a time tested model for this, and it's the noble family.
ben_vulpes: who though will start this monastery today?
ben_vulpes: yes, i recall.
ben_vulpes: more importantly, hammer idiocy out of each succesive generation.
ben_vulpes: gotta breed.
ben_vulpes: "proof of existence" << sad story of not being in the wot and ergo not mattering.
ben_vulpes: the americans "CEO" on hookers and blow.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: even the CEO will drain his accounts after...10? 20? years without income.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how many is N to you?
ben_vulpes: cazalla, felipelalli: identity is not the important bit. trustworthiness is. no drivers license or electric bill proves trustworthiness.
ben_vulpes: one of the reasons i'm not targeting macos for RI builds.
ben_vulpes: apple is pretty much anathema to the #b-a approach to compute.
ben_vulpes: and the ghost of steve is yet prepared to rip it out from beneath us
ben_vulpes: always keeping in mind that it is a rug
ben_vulpes: we've been looking into the apple "enterprise deployment" story of late
ben_vulpes: nearer that southern port city
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it'll probably be well outside of city limits
ben_vulpes: myeah she's a chuckle.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI3tGgD4nMk << "americans ruin everything" - lady v
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: oh hey can we do the whorehouse cafe?
ben_vulpes: i *would* leave if i *could*
ben_vulpes: "but muh jerb"
ben_vulpes: nope.
ben_vulpes: STEAK
ben_vulpes: what are the limiting reactants?
ben_vulpes: body building fat reserves to park toxic crap in?
ben_vulpes: (for symmetry)
ben_vulpes: "us" "food"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what was diet prior?
ben_vulpes: an exercise in slimming down a rubenesque babe lead to...liver prazlems?
ben_vulpes: mustard gas...again?
ben_vulpes: what's the gist, though
ben_vulpes: i'm unfamiliar with this hypothesis
ben_vulpes: oh yeah?
ben_vulpes: you've seen the auschwitz photos...
ben_vulpes: by the time the corpses are available, they'll have scavenged their own fat prior to dying.
ben_vulpes: some day, ideally.
ben_vulpes: in practice, i'm unaware of anyone offering to manage btc between MPOE/BBET/NSA/BTC for a fee.
ben_vulpes: no, my hypothesis is that the current us style of "just stick the money in the market and get returns" is slated for the guillotine under the new regime.
ben_vulpes: am i misusing these terms?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: allocating capital oneself between MPOE/BBET/BTC
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: something like MPIF
ben_vulpes: PeterL: who's taking investment?
ben_vulpes: funding is as fast as a confirmation.
ben_vulpes: of necessity, it must die.
ben_vulpes: this "passive investment" routine is a holdover from the fiat days.
ben_vulpes: trust cannot be automatic, is built slowly, must be on personal terms, and contracts are always active.
ben_vulpes: all of the above is why btcjam is a scam from the -assets perspective.
ben_vulpes: for their own continued health.
ben_vulpes: at the very least they need to be in the WoT
ben_vulpes: one breed of good scammatrons.
ben_vulpes: a good scammatron has totally legitimate uses and users.
ben_vulpes: aside one can't actually invest in BTCJam as such.
ben_vulpes: felipelalli: aha, that's why all the butthurt
ben_vulpes: neat likbez, asciilifeform, thank you
ben_vulpes: for example: why ecc ram?
ben_vulpes: i honestly don't even know how to build a workstation.
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: you don't say!
ben_vulpes: anyways.
ben_vulpes: doubt that i'll have time, though.
ben_vulpes: i'd like to build out a workstation this year.
ben_vulpes: 'tis why i use it.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: invariably
ben_vulpes: b) it is the product of the devil, with all sorts of odd shit going on under the hood
ben_vulpes: well a) marginal in that if you can hack an os x box, you are able to hack a linux or bsd box, and why prefer the consumer os to something designed for use by professionals
ben_vulpes: where's that bash
ben_vulpes: but macos is marginal, and not at all a thing that i'm interested in hosting bitcoind on.
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