mp_en_viaje: but yes that was the explanatory theory we came up with, since they socialize over beer it then therefore follows they don't socialize over coffee and that's an end to it. could for the same money complain there's no teahouse with proper samovar in zanzibar.
mp_en_viaje: i'm not bemoaning my fate or anything, jus' sayin; for the records.
diana_coman: tbf cafes for me -> Austria rather than Germany (which esp Bavaria -> biergarten -and that comes with annoying sitting, yes- what cafe)
mp_en_viaje: which yes, being furnished from the hotel-magazine, as opposed to the apparent coffeehouse-verboenbuche, contains sane human seating.
mp_en_viaje: ended up going to hang out in my hotel lounge, in part precipitated by cabdriver declaring nec plus ultram in coffeehouse luxury the... lounge of another, cheaper hotel.
mp_en_viaje: i have nfi how this works, i NEVER saw a car here with wooden bench inside and fuck you. they understand what chairs are, every bank, every god damned nothing-in-particular shop has proper chairs in there. they have furniture shops selling actual chairs.
mp_en_viaje: fucktards here, their coffee houses, in the rare instances they have seating, have fucking wood benches and stools and shit.
mp_en_viaje: i marched the girls for ~4 hours through historic downtown, tryina find one. found none.
mp_en_viaje: oh, right, i tell you what! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, what the fuck is wrong with picking the prestige coffee house of the town for your bitcoin meet ?
mp_en_viaje: the food was ok, but the service kinda meh. i dunno, they have a problem here it seems with not hirin genough waiters.
asciilifeform: diana_coman, spyked : at this pt , 5 yrs in, i'm satisfied that i understand how ~trb~ pushes tx; problem lies in the zoo of ??? 'nodes', what do ~they~ do with it.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, went then to boozy brunch at lowenbrau keller (big deal landmark here).
mp_en_viaje: and people working at #10 theresinhohe had NEVER HEARD of the public house supposedly located at #15.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in 'red' usa (virginia & south-er) they have these, it's where the people with carpets fulla 2ndhand guns set up coupla-x/yr
mp_en_viaje: ie, the circular connector to frankfurt is frankfurtring, and so this being also a ring but not really connecting to a town... they gave it god's name as it were.
mp_en_viaje: in real civilised places, that community acre is more like a few sqmiles, and they are surrounded by road. in munchen, road is called bavariaring.
mp_en_viaje: in this particular case, they picked a place on fucking bavariaring. how shall i explain what this is... basically every real town has a spot of land kept fallow on purpose to do things like i dunno, let a passin circus pitch tents there, right ? or whatever other large but dirty activity like that, yes.
diana_coman: that being said, I actually had a nice time at various biergartens fwiw - obv, with people "brought from home" as it were so I don't know it had much to do with the *garten itself
asciilifeform pictures mp_en_viaje posting from the pub pictured in '17 moments of spring', complete with the oddball jukebox
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, very fucking to be expected indeed. the problem is still, almost a decade later, that bitcoin "enthusiasm" is pretty much code for "we'll shock you with how inept we are".
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 08:43 spyked: upstack, re. tx propagation voodoo: the good part about this is that it got me into reading trb code and logs re bitcoin and trb. will be back to feedbotworks, but I'll say, this has been instructive
diana_coman: ahahha mp_en_viaje that was rather to be expected given the ersten und originalen und-only-talkin' www
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw i virtually never saw any of mine on bci & similar heathen www, until mined
asciilifeform: i'd be quite curious to hear what trinque says about all of this; i expect today he does the most on-chain work of anyone here
asciilifeform: for all i know, even mempool observatory would not necessarily tell you, there is 0 to stop a usg node from relaying one notional mempool to 1 peer and another to another, based on ???
asciilifeform: granted , it is impossible to say what exactly the 9000 garbage 'nodes' are running, it could be a published prb , or just about anyffin else entirely.
asciilifeform: therefore i suspect specifically the miners, for whom by a certain set of prior this idiocy appears +ev
asciilifeform: that being said, none of the prb's asciilifeform dissected to date, appeared to contain any mechanism that would preferentially propagate a tx in an n-spend set vs 'ordinary'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prb ~does~ iirc have a lulzy notion that it can somehow prefer 1 tx in an n-spend tuple ~in mempool~ as 'the real tx' (the protocol offers no such mechanism, of course, tx dun contain anyffin to tie it to e.g. leading block when-issued , only a promisetronic timestamp that can equal whatever the issuer wants)
BingoBoingo: Well, if the USG has a fleet I don't know why they wouldn't prefer to propagate double spends
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is entirely separate q from the 'i sent tx1 and no one mines but then sent tx2 and bang'
BingoBoingo: I suspect a large portion of the junk nodes might simply not be relaying transactions.
asciilifeform: ... if indeed this is happening, it may also explain some of the churn liquishit that they pad blocks with -- if he cannot find a tx1-tx2 pair in the wild, then... why not generate himself.
asciilifeform: elementary napkin gametheoretical arithm suggests that it is always +ev to mine a tx for which you know a conflicting one has been issued , vs. 1 for which you do not know of one , ~if~ you think you have better connectivity (i.e. more likely to be the 1st to see the split) than other miners ( and i suspect that each of'em thinks he has best connectivity, somehow )
asciilifeform: tho it is not necessarily evidence against it, could simply mean that 'fat miner' lost the race in that particular case to a runner-up
asciilifeform: the 1 obv. hole in the hypothesis is that often enuff it is ~tx1~ that gets mined when tx2 is broadcase.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 14:58 asciilifeform: so far the closest thing i have to a hypothesis, is that the fattest chinese want you to issue a set of conflicting tx so the thinner ones end up with longer invalidated chains
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906628 << to expand on this: say you issued tx1 where input i and output o1. he sees it, it goes to back of queue, as uninteresting, he does not mine it himself, but does relay to competitors. but if you also issue a and tx2, where input i and output o2, o2 != o1 , ~then~ tx2 goes to front of his queue, as by mining it he can throw caltrop to the competing miners , invalidating their chain
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/english-judge-i-cannot-think-of-any-more-obviously-fundamental-human-right-than-the-right-of-a-man-to-have-sex-with-his-wife/ << Qntra -- English Judge: "I Cannot Think Of Any More Obviously Fundamental Human Right Than The Right Of A Man To Have Sex With His Wife"
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906599 << Indeed. Can't even get Maduro to arrest him. China's got their Army Liberation People on the ground and in uniform handing out aid.
asciilifeform: imho the 'machine has 9000 fonts and each 1 is a gnarly proggy for turing-complete ball of 1m+loc c turd' is quite similar to the 'american shop where 9000 brands of toothpaste and each 1 fulla corn syrop' thing
asciilifeform: iirc that's how the bolix people did it ( 2 fonts on the machine , 1 - typewriter, 1 - horiz. variable )
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 04:15 mp_en_viaje: so both modes are valid and important, no argument whatsoever of joining them. but i can not, physically, read the shit i read (and belive you me, i ~read~) in fixed point. i'd rather fucking hang.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906605 << i entirely agree that reading human text in typewriter chars is painful. gotta point out tho , that 'truetype' monstrosity is not justified thereby, it is possible to have horizontally-variable bitmap font (simply store the # of horiz. pixels as matrix , for 'kerning' space , and otherwise same )
asciilifeform: i suspect -- the former
asciilifeform: i dun have the mempool observatory node working yet, so am currently unable to say whether this is widespread problem or asciilifeform simply 'got lucky' errytime
asciilifeform: ( that, and/or they want moar churn, i.e. moar fee, when you gotta send N tx where previously 1 would have sufficed )
asciilifeform: so far the closest thing i have to a hypothesis, is that the fattest chinese want you to issue a set of conflicting tx so the thinner ones end up with longer invalidated chains
asciilifeform: it's riotously obnoxious and erry time i encounter it , cements in my head the 'mining is a bug'
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 08:36 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 , http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906572 <-- was thinking about the same, that txen should diffuse quickly; but then there I was waiting for >1hr at the 4th or so tx sent, and when I looked again it magically propagated *and* got confirmed. why this and none of the previous 3, no idea (one of them had higher tx fee, even)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906616 << this is a well-known effect ( most famously, possibly involved in how 'bitbet' burned down ) and i've personally observed it erry single time i sent coin in past coupla yrs . tx dun move until you send a conflicting tx . why the miners do this -- i still do not know
spyked: upstack, re. tx propagation voodoo: the good part about this is that it got me into reading trb code and logs re bitcoin and trb. will be back to feedbotworks, but I'll say, this has been instructive
lobbesbot: spyked: The operation succeeded.
spyked: !Qlater tell trinque could pl0x look at deedbot deposits when you get the time? fyi, I started two !!deposit and only did the latter; can cancel the former, I'll redo it later if needed
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 << the 1 gotcha, is that if you (or peers) are wedged (genuinely wedged, on db grind; or peers wedged; or stuck on island in sea of prb; or... buncha documented , in log, cases ) then will get exactly 'where the fuck is my tx' errytime
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 , http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906572 <-- was thinking about the same, that txen should diffuse quickly; but then there I was waiting for >1hr at the 4th or so tx sent, and when I looked again it magically propagated *and* got confirmed. why this and none of the previous 3, no idea (one of them had higher tx fee, even)
diana_coman: the tv channels discovery sounds precisely like my early 90's discovery where naive-me thought at first that channel with only X meant they never repeated the stuff.
mp_en_viaje: oh by the way, ima be checking out the munchen bitcoin club thingee, https://www.meetup.com/Bitcoin-Munich/ item later today.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/zece-mii-de-kilometri-de-filme-or-ten-thousand-kilometers-worth-of-movies-either-way/ << Trilema -- Zece mii de kilometri de filme, or Ten Thousand Kilometers' worth of movies. Either way.
mp_en_viaje goes to drown trilema.com a little ; #trilema is well drowned for the time being.
mp_en_viaje: o look, i got the whole logday all too myself. wheee!!!
mp_en_viaje: so both modes are valid and important, no argument whatsoever of joining them. but i can not, physically, read the shit i read (and belive you me, i ~read~) in fixed point. i'd rather fucking hang.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile, in synthetic language, character is the meaning unit, and it is fucking important the function named lil allings with the word www. OR FUCKING ELSE, gott knows we have enough byte errors even without importing a whole new pile of idiocy capable of multiplying them 3x by variable-length that confuses the eye.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
mp_en_viaje: specifically : in natural language, the word is the meaning unit, and it is remembered and parsed as such by the reader portion of the brain. thus http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-21#1587276 ; but thus also "airy" characters are TERRIBLE : they suggest wordbreak (which is space) and fuck up the cache to the degree this can cost say 3x slowdown.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 17:09 mircea_popescu: natural language, however, ablates the trees for "convenience" so to speak, ie, uses commonly what's known in computing as sparse trees.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, to get back to the typographical discussion more substantially : there's an important difference between natural and synthetic language at work.
mp_en_viaje: the united kingdom looks more and more like a parody channel on chinese television, "the island of buran" or something.
mp_en_viaje: but at least i found out theresa may has meanwhile solved the problem -- she'll just ask for a new delay in front of some cheap looking, chinese-made union jacks and behind the derpiest drawing of the queen's crest i ever did see.
mp_en_viaje: the thousand+ turned out to be the exact dozen-and-a-half i remember from the 80s, ie EXACTLY http://trilema.com/2017/fake-news-are-just-one-tail-of-the-failed-female-state/ problem.
mp_en_viaje: d out they have... RADIO STATIONS.
mp_en_viaje: then one got out of the dozen-cloud of rtl-*, prosieben / etc and discovered past #50 or so it's mostly derpy sports / other specialist channels all 20-30 airing the same "genius" late night cable marketing (exact same, why the fuck do you need multiple channels for same bs ? cuz it's spam, true and proper), and then tons of arabic channels which either put out cheap cartoons (qatar) or else broken transmission or w/e, and then past #100 it turne
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 << the 1 gotcha, is that if you (or peers) are wedged (genuinely wedged, on db grind; or peers wedged; or stuck on island in sea of prb; or... buncha documented , in log, cases ) then will get exactly 'where the fuck is my tx' errytime
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906572 << this is true, and good point, most of the time tha tq pops up you're stuck on a reorg or somesuch. trad bitcoin is ~horrible~ re propagation, will not propagate for all sorta bs reasons.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906570 << no argument that it's expensive (incidentally /me is fully aware, did professional stint in typo, asylum was printed on trad webpress process after a setting by yours truly for example). but by the same hand i'm aware it must be done and is worth doing.
mp_en_viaje was getting well sick and tired of san pelegrino, also. bs 2nd tier mineral water took over the world on the quiet.
mp_en_viaje is enjoying all the little things he knew he missed. such as you know, the god damned water.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 19:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906557 << oh hah. asciilifeform only been there coupla times, but never got to uncrate lappy, was always '100 metre sprint' from plane to plane
asciilifeform: sorta why asciilifeform wrote (not yet got chance to debug tho -- and not 'proggy is buggy', but to actually handle all possible brokenness of the probed liquishits...) node mapper
asciilifeform: on acct of the sheer volume of dross 'nodes' on the net, this remains problem even if you personally have sizable herd of nodes
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906563 << the 1 gotcha, is that if you (or peers) are wedged (genuinely wedged, on db grind; or peers wedged; or stuck on island in sea of prb; or... buncha documented , in log, cases ) then will get exactly 'where the fuck is my tx' errytime
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 18:21 mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906511 << problem with fixed width font, in the specific, is that it makes typography (eg, someting like a blog) look like shit, and in the abstract, that it's yet another http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869323 : there's no objective reason "all letters 8 px wide", and some pretty great reason w and l don't take same space.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-02#1906557 << oh hah. asciilifeform only been there coupla times, but never got to uncrate lappy, was always '100 metre sprint' from plane to plane
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 11:03 spyked: noob question re bitcoin: is there an expected time for tx propagation to peers' mempools? details: I'm running a fully synced trb node, connected to trusted republican nodes using -addnode. I've sent 2 txen using sendtoaddress ~3hrs ago and none of them are on e.g. blockchain.info so far
a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 23:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact all your terminals suck isn't an argument in this convo.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906511 << problem with fixed width font, in the specific, is that it makes typography (eg, someting like a blog) look like shit, and in the abstract, that it's yet another http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-04#1869323 : there's no objective reason "all letters 8 px wide", and some pretty great reason w and l don't take same space.
lobbes just had a moment of "I know I hit this wall before, but forgot the cause"; thankfully logs helped me out once again
a111: Logged on 2019-04-02 02:05 mod6: asciilifeform: Are there any more ,,!,, NSA shirts available?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 00:49 asciilifeform: in other minor noose, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hKCPp/?raw=true << preliminary db schema for node hunter
asciilifeform: spyked: i have a (sadly unfinished) http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-18#1863409 proggy , for exactly these cases, on back burner.
spyked: (to be clear, my issue is not of inclusion of said txen in the blockchain, but merely seeing them on nodes other than my own, even if unconfirmed; right now I might as well assume I'm doing something wrong and my node didn't send them at all)
spyked: noob question re bitcoin: is there an expected time for tx propagation to peers' mempools? details: I'm running a fully synced trb node, connected to trusted republican nodes using -addnode. I've sent 2 txen using sendtoaddress ~3hrs ago and none of them are on e.g. blockchain.info so far
mod6: Alright, cool. Will hit ya up then when ready to place order. Cheers!
mod6: asciilifeform: Are there any more ,,!,, NSA shirts available?
BingoBoingo: I'm wondering about the aesthetic impact this is going to have since no more free trash bags with grocery purchase.
BingoBoingo: I acquired two sample bags of the new type today. They appear substantially stronger, with a more uniform quality than the old type which were potato droppers with inconsistently cut handles.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: we had this here for years. ( and on top of it -- they give you the kind of bag where 1 potato will fall through in <5min )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The local supermarkets, delis, etc. Bags are now 4 pesos each.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-29 14:07 asciilifeform: spyked: ty for the ping , item got literally buried under pile of papers. dug it up nao , and i'ma post it tomorrow morning.
BingoBoingo: And the pay for your plastic bags rule is now live!
diana_coman: asciilifeform: well, "my client" in the sense that I'm the only one cleaning it up basically
asciilifeform: diana_coman: unless i'm mistaken , presently there is only diana_coman's client , iirc
asciilifeform: in particular, 'truetype' has been on the Must Die list for many yrs
asciilifeform: indeed. i can think of a coupla potential proggies that call for it, tho ( 'tmsr browser' ; hypothetical replacement for emacs ; etc )
diana_coman: anyway, client is supposed to be up to players really so they can have it with any horrid font they want
diana_coman: that sounds like a farawy problem still, plenty of headaches before getting there as far as I can see.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 14:58 diana_coman: in other lulz, eulora's client complaint that it can't find "reteprelieum" font was caused by the fact that the font-file was called reteprellum while all code (xml! scripts! scriptable!!!) said reteprelieum; now in fairness the font is horrid so it's better it was wrong.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-01#1906478 << i had to read 3x before saw anyffin other than 'reptilarium' , lol !
asciilifeform: there must've been some wagner/cyanide in the bolix fuhrerbunker when folded, presently can't think of why else none of the tech had any later life
asciilifeform: ( there are afaik 2 bolix patents -- 1 , ancient, on the orig. 'l' arch, of 1980-82; other -- on some peculiarity of the video console )
asciilifeform: and answr is not , evidently, 'patent purgatory', they folded prior to getting to patent ~any of it
asciilifeform: arguably the real puzzler, is , where the fuck did all of this go when co folded ? did they shoot all the designers ? ( clearly not ~all~, e.g. weinreb even lived to '12 or so , had blog )
asciilifeform: in other wtf's, apparently thing had knob for manually controlling the cache prefetcher. sumthing asciilifeform previously thought had 1st appeared in opteron, in '07...
asciilifeform: they didn't have programmable pll yet, so they birthed the multiphase the old-fashioned, analogue way. hence temp-controlled .
a111: Logged on 2019-01-28 01:21 asciilifeform: for extra mindfuck : the primary xtal in the bolix ( valpey-fisher vf155 ) is a <1ppm txco.
asciilifeform: apparently this is why http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-28#1890392 and why the item next to it is an iron (mil spec..) multi-tap delayline
asciilifeform: the bolix people actually did Right Thing -- ran multiphase clock and in fact 'put in 4? get 2x faster ram'
mircea_popescu: IF that worked right, THEN (and only then) "all boards come with 4 banks" or "cheaper boards - 2 banks" would have made sense
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i always thought it's the HEIGHT of insanity that if i buy 4 banks of 16gb ram i don't get 4x faster ram access.
asciilifeform: this explains an otherwise strange find of asciilifeform's : that there apparently was a small run of (possibly saphire) 'ivories' for orbit market
asciilifeform: or, e.g., accessed memory via a separate iron sequencer, which queued reads/writes and spread between up to 4 separate memories ( ride 1 while the others busy , making the best of slow '80s drams )
asciilifeform impressed by some of the details , apparently thing not only had internal & external ecc for all memory, but iron ecc logger
diana_coman: guess so re derping hq; re fonts, I took that mess of a font out, yes; anyway, this was just on the side while stripping down the "login" window of useless password etc.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, how could it not be, a buncha idle virgin bois derping about "convincing pretense" as to adulthood and whatnot. if it weren't boring as fuck the problem of hiring schoolteachers would be merely difficult, rather than plain impossible.
diana_coman: in other lulz, eulora's client complaint that it can't find "reteprelieum" font was caused by the fact that the font-file was called reteprellum while all code (xml! scripts! scriptable!!!) said reteprelieum; now in fairness the font is horrid so it's better it was wrong.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, also, you're not expected to understand the arcane wisdom of "lizards hq".
a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 13:59 mircea_popescu: nsh (~lol@wikipedia/nsh) has joined #trilema << https://pastebin.com/d0ni33Hx in other keks
asciilifeform: at some pt, possibly earlier, will re-type the thing for publication, but i dun have a nicoleci , so may take a while .
asciilifeform: in other noose, asciilifeform nao has what appears to be full pinout, timing, bus sequence, register, init magic, interrupts, etc. spec for bolix 'ivory' (won't, presently, say from where, unless source wants to be cited, plox to write in. )
mircea_popescu: well okthen
mircea_popescu: did he run on "upgraded with the times" ~free silver platform ?
mircea_popescu: who knew the proverbial heninger spawn actually ran off with alf's coinage, made themselves the secret pubescent fortress!!
mircea_popescu: nsh (~lol@wikipedia/nsh) has joined #trilema << https://pastebin.com/d0ni33Hx in other keks
bvt: started pizarro isp (http://pizarroisp.net/), and wrote FFA crypto library, in case you wondered what 'FFA style' from my investigation report was: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3141 - vpatch + a write-up for helping fitting-in-head the code
bvt: OriansJ is the stage0 author, please up him upon request
mod6: Evenin' all, the Bitcoin Foundation report will be delayed by a few more days than normal (typically I have it out by the 1st); it'll be done before April 5th though. Just a heads up.
asciilifeform: phf: the included items appear to be quite useful, also ty .
asciilifeform: phf: got it, thx. the linked piece already in log btw, phf excavated it last yr .
billymg: but yeah, the "mp-wp roadmap proposal" post is something i've been meaning to do
billymg: mircea_popescu: ok for me to lockup the blog again?
billymg: so far main buckets as i see are: 1) new tmsr/repuplican theme, 2) automated tests, 3) kill unnecessary code
billymg: ok, i might capture/reference this in an upcoming post then, along with other potential roadmap items for consideration
mircea_popescu: c. you absolutely do not want any kind of nesting, comments or otherwise. c1. you do not want to split comment flow on pages. c2. you gotta have usage of various things such as blockquote or li or bold or h commensurate in comments with their use in post. comment should really look like mini-article, visually.
mircea_popescu: trilema puts articles outside comments inside ands some more trims underneath. but i don't expect this is the only way to go about it -- though perhaps it is best to have "recent x" things up top.
mircea_popescu: b2. the utility columns must include a recent posts, a recent comments, and convenient access to archives.
mircea_popescu: once you got that, the size of pics preset is establshed : one to fit well in column, one to fit two by each other, and one to fit four.
mircea_popescu: trilema's a little under 640, because trilema was made 10+ years ago. you can take advantage of wider screens, make the read column say 640. or 720, if single utility column.
mircea_popescu: b1. your text column will have to have a fixed size. this is the 2nd, and i suspect last decision you make. too wide, you get horizontal scrolling, and that sucks. too wide, you're reading an electromagnetic beam, which also sucks.
billymg: this _may_ be a result of the patch, in which case a regression. will dig in
billymg: the radio buttons are disabled
mircea_popescu: b) you will need a main column for text on the left, and either one or two service columns on the right. this is the first major decision in theme making : one ? or two ?
billymg: ok, i see now exactly what you meant by can't select the other sizes while uploading (only original)
mircea_popescu: as far as experience illuminates, a theme goes like this : a) you must have a header, and a.1 you don't want it animated ; thus i know of nothing better than tcurrent state of the art as shown by trilema : mask-png which goes with the theme, invite user to take some pictures, apply the mask, upload them and have the theme rotate through them by some criteria.
mircea_popescu: now ~whether~ it can or can not resize images, that'd be part of mp-wp, and i expect it'd work, but your current theme doesn't expose the functionality
mircea_popescu: or, the sizes. well, no, i expect this is part of the theme setting. i dunno that it'd work magically
billymg: the image thumbnail generation
mircea_popescu: whatever you decide on, 580 wide, 660 wide, whatever -- then you make thumbnails /4 that, so people can do things lik http://trilema.com/2011/nsfw-gradina-edenului/
billymg: definitely, i had planned to write a custom theme at some point, with inputs from the lords, to try and arrive at an "ideal" default theme
mircea_popescu: billymg, : "Size Thumbnail Medium Large Full size (560 × 420)" only permits me the 560x420 upload. ideally should have also a thumbnail or two, you know ? sometimes that works better. i suspect this comes from settings
billymg: (also saw the same "unable to create directory" error prior to that just now)
billymg: mircea_popescu: did the necessary chmoding and usermoding, restarted apache, works for me now
mircea_popescu: will prolly go away when he sits down to remodel the data model after done with all these obvious library level snips.
mircea_popescu: i can see the "forget roles" thing, but i expect this is no cheap or quick move of the scissor.
mircea_popescu: billymg, now "Unable to create directory /www/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/03. Is its parent directory writable by the server?"
asciilifeform: 'roles' is as i see it simply the typical usgistic 'pissing section in swimming pool' pretense
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc theoretically it was for 'multi-author' blog. but who actually uses this. << Until cazalla retired, Qntra
billymg: yeah, they have roles such as "contributor", "author", "editor"
asciilifeform: iirc theoretically it was for 'multi-author' blog. but who actually uses this.
diana_coman: fwiw I don't see any use for "roles" either
asciilifeform: imho 'roles' is yet-another wpism that could be cut w/ 0 tears
a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 17:05 mircea_popescu: amusingly, much in the vein of http://trilema.com/2019/the-saddest-thing-in-the-world/#selection-199.1-199.37 -- romanian "teribil" has none of the negative connotations of "terrible".
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 17:10 asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/antiqua-sanctorum-patrum-or-the-lordship-list-sixth-year/#comment-128755 << mega-likbez, btw, imho belongs in the log
mircea_popescu: was pretty lulzy coda of the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906182 lulz : perhaps measles, also, should protest "all these cells using my genetic code!!!"
mircea_popescu: in fairness, common all the way to biology : before cell deems it can use virus, the latter first has to be de-capsid-ized.
asciilifeform: was such 'success' that he never bothered to mention it here
a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 16:56 diana_coman: re fg inside, I suppose that's the "those guys don't know how to sell" - gotta make it a collectable, there's no use and no purpose other than it's cool; but mircea_popescu's explanation of self-valuation seems to me to explain it all much better really.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906292 << diana_coman (iirc is in the l0gz, somewhere briefly) 1 time i dug up what turned out to be an attempt by pete_d to market fg -- his notion was 'first, gotta rename! it'
mircea_popescu: this identification of "any feeling at all" with "bad" in the mental collective is why bush needn't cary any responsability for his empire's failure in the middle east (i don't mean, "his empire failing to achieve something or the other in that locale", i mean "the empire failing, aka ending, at that place", much like if i say "clinton's aneurism at 15th chelsea street" i mean the dork fell in the street, not that the stre
mircea_popescu: amusingly, much in the vein of http://trilema.com/2019/the-saddest-thing-in-the-world/#selection-199.1-199.37 -- romanian "teribil" has none of the negative connotations of "terrible".
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, would make a terrible mother!
diana_coman would get the kid a toy car since ~= "college" anyway.
diana_coman: but yes, on second pass I think I can see it: that's his sweat there, "having kids", the rest has to compensate !!
diana_coman: I suspect the whole thing is more twisted than planeshift's code already.
mircea_popescu: i'm sorry, i misspoke. not "what more you want" but "nobody could say there'd be more wanted", exactly in g. costanza's terms, "she can'tr say i;m not comfortable".
mircea_popescu: this is, you must agree, a significant discount from his usual 10`000% of the return for 0.01% of the work.
mircea_popescu: he had kids. this means (in insane esltard worldview) that he condescended to receive merely 100% (if that!!!) of the return for 100% of the work (and more!!!!).
mircea_popescu: "isn't it enough that i'm getting real returns on THIS ONE THING ? it should be. all the rest... imaginary!"
diana_coman: re fg inside, I suppose that's the "those guys don't know how to sell" - gotta make it a collectable, there's no use and no purpose other than it's cool; but mircea_popescu's explanation of self-valuation seems to me to explain it all much better really.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, i'd rather suspect it's "ate his motivation", as in "i already gave at the office".
a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 16:21 BingoBoingo: billymg: The guy used to hang around here until the children came and ate his time.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906236 -> I'd say the "kids ate my time" is the convenient excuse as it's not like he has 100, nor like he is even main carer or anything; just sayin'.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-18 17:38 asciilifeform: the bureaucracy 'codes' are sumthingelse... there was a time when asciilifeform slaved in a usg army research thing, and their 'job codes' were written in 1960s, there was no 'programmer'. so ended up 'chemist'.
asciilifeform sadly familiar with the usg equiv. of ^
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: admittedly 'make own' using the published schem aint quite same thing as 'do 100% of the orig work'
mircea_popescu: or, in his own words, http://trilema.com/2018/and-in-todays-lulz-the-obnoxious-cocksucker/
mircea_popescu: as ~evidently enough there's not 10k earths around, but one, and as just as evidently russia ain't going along with ustarded "valuations", so even "Whole earth" is too high to reach, well... fellow "can't motivate himself"
mircea_popescu: and it just as genuinely explains for your benefit why "nobody made anything". for someone to have done 100% of the work of the competent sunkworks engineer, that someone'd have expected to be paid 10`000`000% the whole earth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, mno, this is, genuinely, the self-valuation of labour.
mircea_popescu: which very much leads straight into the whole http://trilema.com/2015/that-unpleasant-moment-when-principles-you-were-supporting-strictly-because-of-the-principle-of-the-thing-and-pointedly-not-because-of-the-convenient-manner-in-which-they-worked-upon-a-restr/#selection-179.0-191.92
mircea_popescu: that's the leverage involved : for 1% or so of being a salesman, fellow would like 10`000% or so of being the corporation's president.
mircea_popescu: the dood's self-valuation is there very much transparent : he wants to do a quarter hour of unskilled work ; and he wants to be paid 5k for it, ie about a week and a half's worth of skilled work.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 20:04 mircea_popescu: dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
mircea_popescu: consider the actual datapoints the actual flow of history offers us (quite in the vein of the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906143 vein) : datapoint a) is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651459 ; datapoint b) is http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-31#1906233
asciilifeform: there was some fella who in 2000s 'fuck , i'm not paying 100k to hitachi, i'ma build own atomic force microscope' but admittedly was long time ago.
mircea_popescu: what, seriously, othello 2 ?
asciilifeform: the mindboggling thing is that afaik no one yet 'fuck you all, i'ma make own.' asciilifeform made this deliberately as simple as could be .
mircea_popescu: in principle that's what utter failure to commercialize'd look like : item sells by the unit at 100x mark-up rather than by the barge at 1% mark-up.
mircea_popescu: what does image of far away greek emperor tell bulgarian ? well... that the coin's made of gold.
mircea_popescu: i expect it's an aesthetic consideration.
asciilifeform: esp. chukchaistic treatment of the xray ( wat exactly does xray of spare fg on asciilifeform's desk, tell buyer re pete_d's ? )
mircea_popescu: (the above quite was re "identify what needs to remain" comment. i guess i gotta get more disciplined with the linerefs.
BingoBoingo: I wouldn't be surprised if he picked up more when the decision to hold off on more productions runs came down
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol! notice what's in the last pic in link
billymg: might have missed the part about having kids though
billymg: yeah, i knew as much from the logs
billymg: seems kind of lazy/cynical given the >10x markup (or perhaps an april fools joke?)
billymg: BingoBoingo: i do kind of like the aesthetic, but would like it more if the board was mounted and the case had port cutouts, etc., so that it could be used in that form
BingoBoingo: In other discoveries: http://www.contravex.com/2019/03/30/the-21st-century-emergency-kit-fg-inside/ "But that’s not all! In addition to being super sensible and oh so au courant, FG INSIDE doubles (triples?) as an icon of industrial design. Like the Eames Lounge or the iPod before it, its pared-down simplicity and resolute transparency make it a work of artistic expression reflective of, and integral to, our present day and age. USD
Mocky: the rss import can handle it, but that can't import post tags
Mocky: I've been building my wp import file out of my feed template. It's basically rss with additional wp tags. I just discovered the reason why only the last post in the file has been getting imported: wp import can't handle </item><item> without whitespace between.
billymg: but i know i'll have to pause on that to put together a test suite (which should actually be a great way of identifying what needs to *remain*)
billymg: it is deeply satisfying work ripping out the cruft in that thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, it's altogether dubious mp-wp is program, or really anything other than an overgrown script.
BingoBoingo: In other updates, cuntoo takes less than 12 hours to compile on new rig. Gotta fuck the kernel config and details to get it to boot.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 03:49 asciilifeform: i just counted gpg 1.4.10 : 156,436 loc -- and that ain't counting the autoconf liquishit, or the libs it pulls in
a111: Logged on 2018-11-29 19:10 asciilifeform: ( for comparison: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680705 ; or, current trb is ~22k loc, ~not~ incl. the dep balls )
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 20:20 feedbot: http://billymg.com/2019/03/the-mp-wp-weightloss-program/ << billymg -- The mp-wp weightloss program
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906193 << interestingly, at 139.2 kloc , still 1 of the heaviest proggies in civilized use; vs, e.g., trb ( http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-29#1876053 ) ; but lighter than koch gpg ( if minus autoconf, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680705 ) or linux kern.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 00:59 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906196 << is this from that one time when the usg killed like 500 random afghanis it had kidnapped and then pretended like fifty or so survived in order to give "deep cover" to various agents ?
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/03/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-september-and-october-1715-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of September and October, 1715 - Part IV.
BingoBoingo: Being released with credit for good behavior in the "communications management unit" at Terra Haute too!
mircea_popescu: "oh, no, this totally isn't dork mcdorkenson, he's rakiim al fuckwit, who magically survived the concentration camp at quala-janqui, believe"
a111: Logged on 2019-03-30 20:51 BingoBoingo: In the Forever War facts stumbled upon, apparently John Walker Lindh is set to be released May 23rd.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906196 << is this from that one time when the usg killed like 500 random afghanis it had kidnapped and then pretended like fifty or so survived in order to give "deep cover" to various agents ?
BingoBoingo: Well, with Brexit looking more like something the EU is going to end up imposing on Britain than anything Britain is going to do... EU is getting bold.
BingoBoingo: I never had to get a car inspected in my corner of old country. All registered just outside the mandatory inspection zone.