(trilema) nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: what makes you think i have a beef with you? ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;seen thestringpuller
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, like the Scientific American of finance
(trilema) nubbins`: herbijudlestoids, that clarifies things a bit, but i think what i really need is to visit the library
(trilema) nubbins`: and to answer your question, no, i don't have an account at gox
(trilema) nubbins`: that tweet is from yesterday
(trilema) nubbins`: is it fair to say that the price of a given option indicates not only an expectation of price, but of volatility?
(trilema) nubbins`: yes, sure
(trilema) nubbins`: the greeks are seismographs, for lack of a better analogy, correct?
(trilema) nubbins`: okay
(trilema) nubbins`: sure
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm a tall man :D
(trilema) nubbins`: you're talking about a foot above my head here, but the failing is mine, not yours
(trilema) nubbins`: no idea anymore
(trilema) nubbins`: although i'm barely at the level of understanding what i just said
(trilema) nubbins`: afaik mpoe uses bond deposits to back options
(trilema) nubbins`: just based on those actions
(trilema) nubbins`: slightly different question, purchaser profits if btc falls below 500?
(trilema) nubbins`: purchaser is expecting btc to fall below ~500 or whatever it was?
(trilema) nubbins`: that orgy of puts that was purchased the other day
(trilema) nubbins`: sorry for the stupid question, but i'm exceptionally thick with this sort of thing
(trilema) nubbins`: another lame round from Silver Beatoff Silver Shit
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: KRS-One, scroll up nine lines.
(trilema) nubbins`: high-level meeting
(trilema) nubbins`: nod
(trilema) nubbins`: so it's not a huge leap
(trilema) nubbins`: and postal money orders, of course
(trilema) nubbins`: canada post already sells numismatic coins from the mint
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ read that, actually not bad
(trilema) nubbins`: smash all the things!
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, my sides
(trilema) nubbins`: mydoge on ios
(trilema) nubbins`: interesting
(trilema) nubbins`: not manflesh?
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, you said no corrosive chems!
(trilema) nubbins`: hm, i'm obviously not up to speed
(trilema) nubbins`: don't you need caustic chemicals for that?
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't have a laser
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, bit of a higher barrier to entry.
(trilema) nubbins`: herbijudlestoids: an embossed labelmaker with some aluminum ribbon, say
(trilema) nubbins`: implication is that there aren't good exchanges, just varying degrees of shitty
(trilema) nubbins`: i kid
(trilema) nubbins`: obvious answer is correct one ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ trick question
(trilema) nubbins`: fun fact, if you have btc or usd in mtgox, you're part of the problem! :D
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay, +1
(trilema) nubbins`: with updated graph
(trilema) nubbins`: "nope. strong, black, and slightly bitter"
(trilema) nubbins`: "hot?"
(trilema) nubbins`: i like my coffee the way i like my women!
(trilema) nubbins`: the trick with these "the way i like my women" jokes is to fool people into assuming the wrong thing
(trilema) nubbins`: lovely
(trilema) nubbins`: and i say "no, white"
(trilema) nubbins`: wife says "lightly beaten?!"
(trilema) nubbins`: so i announce "i like my women the way i like my eggs!!"
(trilema) nubbins`: making dinner, recipe calls for a lightly beaten egg
(trilema) nubbins`: lel @ name
(trilema) nubbins`: ahahahah
(trilema) nubbins`: do they even internet?
(trilema) nubbins`: wow, ALL the comments so far are about the "new look" of /.
(trilema) nubbins`: five bucks says they used BRAP vols. 3/4
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ one of canada's greatest musical exports
(trilema) nubbins`: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/06/1534215/skinny-puppy-wants-compensation-for-music-used-in-us-interrogations
(trilema) nubbins`: i see a bike around town sometimes with wheels like that
(trilema) nubbins`: too treacherous outside to ride in the winter tho, even with studded tires
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay: i'm a bike guy :D
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay: i use the gym for the bikes in winter :)
(trilema) nubbins`: bee bee el, pan-frying cod
(trilema) nubbins`: coffee!
(trilema) nubbins`: good a time for a break as any
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: i'm terrible with quotes
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: did he say "if your friends have to issue public warnings not to invest in things you create, you're probably a legit businessman with a future"?
(trilema) nubbins`: indeed
(trilema) nubbins`: useless to know otherwise
(trilema) nubbins`: good to know if you take something away from it
(trilema) nubbins`: and basically, yep
(trilema) nubbins`: go dig up some dirt on me, i'll wait here
(trilema) nubbins`: consider that tatvm has tainted everything you've done since
(trilema) nubbins`: consider that pirate's scam enabled him to buy a bunch of blow
(trilema) nubbins`: luckily everyone's already standing on one
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, zing
(trilema) nubbins`: we're going to run out of soap if this hand-washing continues
(trilema) nubbins`: "i didn't put the razor in the apple, i just gave it to the kid"
(trilema) nubbins`: oh, you hurt yourself, even if you don't realize it yet
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm not saying you're a criminal, i'm saying you're hurting other people as well as yourself
(trilema) nubbins`: [16:14:38] <ThickAsThieves> i knew what i was selling
(trilema) nubbins`: [16:07:54] <ThickAsThieves> First, I didn't really realize what would happen
(trilema) nubbins`: you knew you were selling overpriced turds?
(trilema) nubbins`: that's worse
(trilema) nubbins`: ooh
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay: yes, that's correct
(trilema) nubbins`: do you regret that you really did not understand what you were selling?
(trilema) nubbins`: *failure
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c was the one who mentioned failute
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay: it wasn't a failure for TAT
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe you could whip up a regretcoin, premine a bunch, and send them to the rubes who got fleeced
(trilema) nubbins`: [16:07:54] <ThickAsThieves> First, I didn't really realize what would happen, and I really did not intend to harm. However, I do regret it.
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay, mike_c: TAT.VM
(trilema) nubbins`: jesus
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: you disagree that displaying a shocking lack of foresight is tarnishing to a reputation?
(trilema) nubbins`: we can't agree
(trilema) nubbins`: or inventing the future of crypto
(trilema) nubbins`: jborkl, helping scammers fleece rubes
(trilema) nubbins`: SMH
(trilema) nubbins`: please
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ picture yourself saying this about ATC 6 months from now
(trilema) nubbins`: HEH
(trilema) nubbins`: i've heard of him
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, the same bob who sucks dicks?
(trilema) nubbins`: you asked me if mp was running a scam by making a better coingen. i ask you if there's a mirceacoin
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ this is the other side of it
(trilema) nubbins`: "can we trust this ThickAsThieves fellow?" "of course you can trust me, neobee, AM, etc" "but what about the perpetual mining turd and the altcoin thing?" "no no no, those were just a lel"
(trilema) nubbins`: ThickAsThieves: ...
(trilema) nubbins`: "no, OUT of the environment"
(trilema) nubbins`: "into another environment?"
(trilema) nubbins`: "well, the tanker was leaking oil something fierce, so we towed it outside the environment"
(trilema) nubbins`: once you flush things down the toilet, they're gone
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c, ah, the toilet? that's okay, then
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay, that's about two steps from "what IS reality?"
(trilema) nubbins`: "fuck the signal, here's some more noise"
(trilema) nubbins`: "so what if we're helping turn cryptocurrency into a digital liberia"
(trilema) nubbins`: when can we expect mike_ccoin?
(trilema) nubbins`: ergo, it never will!
(trilema) nubbins`: "it hasn't happened yet!"
(trilema) nubbins`: you've got that part right, at least
(trilema) nubbins`: "not yet"
(trilema) nubbins`: fuck everything, it's the road's fault for being there
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: yeah, who cares! we can do this forever!
(trilema) nubbins`: replace max with alt
(trilema) nubbins`: signal-to-noise-ratiocoin
(trilema) nubbins`: making a new compiler != creating exploits
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody's saying that either
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody's saying that
(trilema) nubbins`: PMTs = "a better" way to invest?
(trilema) nubbins`: atc = "a better" alt?
(trilema) nubbins`: "a better"
(trilema) nubbins`: not in people's faces
(trilema) nubbins`: what he's saying is piss in the fucking toilet
(trilema) nubbins`: let them eat cake!
(trilema) nubbins`: so value, many excite
(trilema) nubbins`: what's with "winning" "arguments"?
(trilema) nubbins`: you're trying to rationalize your lelcoin right now, in this conversation
(trilema) nubbins`: denlove, eat a bag of dicks
(trilema) nubbins`: just that there's the potential for learning, growth, new thought processes, etc
(trilema) nubbins`: nobody's saying you NEED to test new concepts
(trilema) nubbins`: but a big machine that spits out slightly tweaked alts isn't
(trilema) nubbins`: altcoins are a great way to test out new concepts
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't assume that
(trilema) nubbins`: do tell!
(trilema) nubbins`: sure it is, they're trading one terrible choice for another
(trilema) nubbins`: would you count getting people off heroin and into crack as a good thing?
(trilema) nubbins`: but you can't say that you're not intentionally fleecing rubes
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, and you can offer perpetual mining turds that anyone with a brain would know is a bad purchase
(trilema) nubbins`: just wanted to offer a perspective
(trilema) nubbins`: if you can justify it to yourself, there's not much i can do to convince you otherwise
(trilema) nubbins`: streets serve a useful purpose
(trilema) nubbins`: yyyep
(trilema) nubbins`: no, you're just selling tongs
(trilema) nubbins`: nice rationalization, isn't it
(trilema) nubbins`: rubes losing money on ATC doesn't happen without ATC
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: assassinations are purchased with or without bitcoin
(trilema) nubbins`: benkay, no
(trilema) nubbins`: intentions don't matter, what people do with the thing you've made does matter
(trilema) nubbins`: dogecoin, you see people actually losing things of value
(trilema) nubbins`: bernankoin, you read the spec and have a lel
(trilema) nubbins`: i think it's immoral to sell a cardboard box painted up like a house to a new family
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c, there was a housing bubble? ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: what if i just want to stuff a cigarette with match heads to see what happens?
(trilema) nubbins`: others disagree
(trilema) nubbins`: in my view
(trilema) nubbins`: promoting a lelcoin as being serious is amoral
(trilema) nubbins`: duffer, it boils down to this, yes
(trilema) nubbins`: the suckers being suckered don't
(trilema) nubbins`: i do too
(trilema) nubbins`: that's becoming clear ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: says you, as well
(trilema) nubbins`: says me, yes
(trilema) nubbins`: but the funny thing about intentions...
(trilema) nubbins`: it's intended to have a chuckle
(trilema) nubbins`: let's be clear, your experiment isn't intended to become a winner over bitcoin
(trilema) nubbins`: it's impossible for a rubecoin to be healthy, yes
(trilema) nubbins`: if you're fine with rubes being fleeced, then there's no difference, no
(trilema) nubbins`: one's real and the other is for fleecing rubes, that's what
(trilema) nubbins`: mike_c: the lel/scam is the same thing
(trilema) nubbins`: says me
(trilema) nubbins`: alts have two purposes: to experiment with ideas and to have a lel/run a scam
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, fuck him, he shoulda checked!
(trilema) nubbins`: and we all have a chuckle and a kid slices his neck open
(trilema) nubbins`: "lel pre-razored apples, what a riot!"
(trilema) nubbins`: you've decided that the guy selling apples w/ razors to creepy old men is not at fault, because he's not the one handing them out to kids?
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe it really does, yep
(trilema) nubbins`: i know it's a big lel, but you should kill this before it grows legs
(trilema) nubbins`: and you're enabling that
(trilema) nubbins`: people are going to take it seriously and they're going to lose money
(trilema) nubbins`: doesn't matter
(trilema) nubbins`: what are you gonna do when people start actually wasting/losing money on atc?
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't see rental properties outperforming btc
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1, +1
(trilema) nubbins`: so, anyone buying rentalstarter tomorrow?
(trilema) nubbins`: over 9000
(trilema) nubbins`: HAHAHAH
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1, nah, have had this for just over a year
(trilema) nubbins`: tat, got a link?
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1, +1 heh
(trilema) nubbins`: MAY SMASH IT ANYWAY TO SHOW THEM A LESSON
(trilema) nubbins`: works like a charm now
(trilema) nubbins`: literally an hour after i hung up, i scooped the lint out
(trilema) nubbins`: no, they mail you a box to return your broken phone in
(trilema) nubbins`: so i guess i get a free box in the mail any day now ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: cajoled apple into fixing it for free, later realized that the bottom of the port had a bunch of impacted lint
(trilema) nubbins`: fuckin thing completely stopped charging, 9 days out of warranty
(trilema) nubbins`: did i mention the problem i was having with my iphone the other day?
(trilema) nubbins`: lel, i kid ;(
(trilema) nubbins`: as soon as i finish submitting this post to reddit
(trilema) nubbins`: srsly, the only part of these videos where i cringe is when i see a metal implement striking concrete
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: do they even eyes?
(trilema) nubbins`: side note, what's with all these fucking idiots laying their phones on concrete and striking them with metal tools?
(trilema) nubbins`: we'd say "yes, fuck us" while smoking his money
(trilema) nubbins`: this is like if that single dad who paid us $400 for a bespoke kid's book said "fuck pink eye" and put his book in the shredder
(trilema) nubbins`: tat had it right, if he really wanted to stick it to apple, he would have sold his phone ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: "really sending a message to apple here"
(trilema) nubbins`: heh
(trilema) nubbins`: that'll show apple
(trilema) nubbins`: HULK SMASH
(trilema) nubbins`: Duffer1, upset at the stupidity of these retards
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm actually a bit upset here
(trilema) nubbins`: man oh man
(trilema) nubbins`: wait, he's going to strikeAAAAHHH
(trilema) nubbins`: *smashes $700 phone*
(trilema) nubbins`: "this is not acceptable"
(trilema) nubbins`: some wizard with a dart hangin out of his face
(trilema) nubbins`: tat, the first video is already brutal
(trilema) nubbins`: naw dude, they're totally going for a windows phone this time ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: "know what'll hurt apple? if i smash my on-contract phone that they've already been paid for, in full"
(trilema) nubbins`: 200btc if you upload it to redtube
(trilema) nubbins`: i'll send 100btc to everyone who smashes their dick with a hammer