ben_vulpes: oh hey here's a notion
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: it's missing the dune/WoT polyamory
ben_vulpes: it's actually halfway decent
ben_vulpes: great thing about -assets is the "rewrite everything" option
ben_vulpes: asking out of curiosity
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: nono ofc
ben_vulpes: "beat that thing into submission and deliver what i've asked for"
ben_vulpes: this however is how management works
ben_vulpes: oh entirely
ben_vulpes: kudos a danielpbarron
ben_vulpes: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCHRQTVUoAAFnSw.png:large << heh. seems familiar, but the details are new
ben_vulpes: can i skip the whole WolfeGoethe thread?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116751 << asciilifeform: the lotto tixx!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116715 << you probably grok entirely the advantage of that "tiny little keyboard" over touchscreens
ben_vulpes: it's what we use at sj - can be beaten into whatever absurd demand i make of $bizpartner
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: ever derp on "Manager"?
ben_vulpes: he's been derping on cpanel, i can see.
ben_vulpes: did you duct tape the submarine part to the heli part?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: probably makes things better by reducing the "GO FAST NOW BRAKE AND WASTE ALL KE NOW HURRY UP AND ACCELERATE MYRIAD TONNES OF PLASTIC AGAIN" dynamic
ben_vulpes: just go around.
ben_vulpes: no but the point is that the lane was entirely empty, so why fucking honk
ben_vulpes: "pick yourself a kitten and listen to a platter...that rocks!"
ben_vulpes: what have i done
ben_vulpes: ah jeez
ben_vulpes: and how much of that gear is even genuinely kraut
ben_vulpes: "more intertia is better!"
ben_vulpes: well what do they know
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sorry, do not follow
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116481 << uh can i get a copy of the source and possibly some docs?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1116287 << i actually get visuals of mircea_popescu's face when i see ":D" from him nao
ben_vulpes: no microcontrollers on the board...
ben_vulpes: i trust you, they trust me
ben_vulpes: but this comes with provenance
ben_vulpes: rocketplane*
ben_vulpes: myriad hackers are salivating over rocket
ben_vulpes: nah, i have delegated the adapter to be brought to my face
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: electronics hack night has been scheduled
ben_vulpes: first the boxen, then and only then the chixxen
ben_vulpes: p. much.
ben_vulpes: because there are two monitors and one of the chicks isn't there yet and this wine isn't going to drink itself nor these logs read themselves
ben_vulpes: I'M DOING LAUNDRY OKAY
ben_vulpes: well not naked but close
ben_vulpes: the shop is empty so i'm drinking and naked
ben_vulpes: naw i have vino at hand and girls waiting at home
ben_vulpes: arbeit macht frei
ben_vulpes: yeah where are the bunk keys hm?
ben_vulpes: naw ive seen your car it pollutes less and you're not nearly as fat as this old sack of shit
ben_vulpes: when i caught up to him at the stop light at the top of the hill, he had his phone out and was recording my endless tirade of abuse
ben_vulpes: this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us
ben_vulpes: yeah
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: and bleach
ben_vulpes: i can put caltrops to work
ben_vulpes: close, but other meat
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what what?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115973 << haw well now i hafta read it
ben_vulpes goes for another, smaller glass of chablis
ben_vulpes: as far as i can figure, guesses (liberally sprinked with CYA) about what people did, extrapolated from their middens
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "cultural anthropology"
ben_vulpes considers the eerie parallel with his mothers work
ben_vulpes: all i am actually good for is software archaeology after all
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: perhaps when you come visit, bring it for an extended loan if you're done
ben_vulpes: i could have tacos delivered for like 4 months with that
ben_vulpes: dood
ben_vulpes: benefits of complaining, i suppose
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115951 << iirc, my answer was "dunno, let's try"
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115921 << "law of leaky abstractions" hurts so much more in these scenarios...
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115893 << "so, how's his english?" "pretty good, there's just this thing that happens where he occasionally says something that sounds entirely wrong and then the conversation moves on, and five minutes later I ask about it and turns out to be some throwaway joke in romanian or french or latin."
ben_vulpes: non?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "deprecate"
ben_vulpes: "It was solid enough to be a serious system that had real clients who depended on it." << oh for those days, and those clients
ben_vulpes: "the difference between theory and practice is, uh, larger in practice than in theory" << paul graham! whatta dood
ben_vulpes: For example, there was a famous hack that provided a means of (1) removing a cons cell from a freelist, (2) updating the freelist, and (3) branching if the freelist was exhausted to the GC... in *one instruction*. << that *is* cool
ben_vulpes: i'd like one just like it.
ben_vulpes: where's your THz chip, williamdunne?
ben_vulpes: where's my log summary gurl
ben_vulpes: your reward is more demands!
ben_vulpes: young man, you have committed an outrageous upgrade for the most serene republic!
ben_vulpes: > committed an upgrade << heh
ben_vulpes: pahahaha yeah okay i'll just ask you to do that every time i comment on contravex
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: plz foar to nuke gravatar
ben_vulpes: !b
ben_vulpes: !a
ben_vulpes: !b
ben_vulpes: !a
ben_vulpes: !right
ben_vulpes: !left
ben_vulpes: !down
ben_vulpes: !up
ben_vulpes: !down
ben_vulpes: !up
ben_vulpes: yeah, the thing ran, and well if you recall.
ben_vulpes: probably how you derp around the machine shop
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [00:54] how the everliving fuck is cpanel used with anything other than php/static wwwtron << fwiw asciilifeform i went through a very similar saga on a very similar popescuian box. i just thought that "this was how things were supposed to be" and labored in silence.
ben_vulpes: finding tango partners online is like 1/1000000th as good a use of time as finding bdsm partners
ben_vulpes: nope still not computing
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [13:23] that's prolly put i nthere special for shooting down ben_vulpes dating attempts in kindergarten. << i dun get it
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> in cpanelworld, yeah it does. << haha what is this madness
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> what'd i run it on ? << it's not actually such a bad idea to render the whole thing as flat files and do something cleverish w/comments
ben_vulpes: and of course mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
ben_vulpes: except for those guys whose lunch we eat and girls we fuck
ben_vulpes: heh who with a girl hasn't?
ben_vulpes: much as the girlies would like to "invest in their quality of life", such is just purchasing a big of hedonism.
ben_vulpes: this return cannot be "happiness" or any such.
ben_vulpes: investment is predicated on a return.
ben_vulpes: never.
ben_vulpes: not only for mission-critical shit like therealbitcoin, but even my own work.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude i guarantee you that git is too easy to use.
ben_vulpes: and i'm not even an expert on the finer points of the vcexen in the wild.
ben_vulpes: no, that's the point i wish to make. you're conflating github with git.
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: what is a pull?
ben_vulpes: wat?
ben_vulpes: <jurov> benjy just needed to vent some steam << naw i just wanted to restart an ancient thread
ben_vulpes: makes it less likely for people to review changes.
ben_vulpes: makes large merges too easy, is at least one of asciilifeform's objections
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: git makes it easy to pretend to work on a codebase by reindenting things
ben_vulpes: <mats> overengineered, cvs is often good enough << haha nice try winbro
ben_vulpes: <trinque> not committing to it while I can't guarantee I'll execute << not worth it imho, leave it for someone like williamdunne
ben_vulpes: the water filtration station - it's not ending up in your nets.
ben_vulpes: you're not collecting water station samples, are you?
ben_vulpes: you can guess all you like, doesn't mean diddly.
ben_vulpes: (how could i?)
ben_vulpes relents, temporarily
ben_vulpes: stross had a book about this
ben_vulpes: http://qntra.net/2015/04/warrick-county-prosecutors-office-cover-up-ransomware-infection/ << ascii_field the thing is nowhere near harvested
ben_vulpes: achtung, qntrites! ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
ben_vulpes: kids kinda funny
ben_vulpes: > girls
ben_vulpes: > hoping
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: chinese times
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the md fun anywhere near you?
ben_vulpes: ascii_
ben_vulpes: cherisse is in the same food group as la cuña?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1113328 << aren't you writing some sort of exchange, too?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1113329 << hey what'd i miss here
ben_vulpes: i can't speak to ghaddafi's training skills tho
ben_vulpes: yeah. has some hoplites and an (mircea_popescu'd like this one) army of girls
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: didja ever read A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer?
ben_vulpes: i'm not proposing mempool as persistence layer - even i'm not that braindead
ben_vulpes: oh, surely
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112795 << wait, who hates him?
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: myeah, but chat (this one aside) is ephemeral
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell menahem sorry, bouncer failure. lost everything you sent me.
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: seriously, because i'm retarded: what is the incentive to keep a tx in the mempool that will be included in a block but not one that won't?
ben_vulpes: what is the incentive for a client to maintain anything in the mempool?
ben_vulpes: what's so important about synchrony?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re blockchain telegraphy: why bother even with the persistence layer? why not just transmit messages around in transactions that will never get included in blocks?
ben_vulpes is not sure about this position
ben_vulpes: (doods i put 6 new stickie notes in the "pipeline" column of my Wall o' Sales today)
ben_vulpes: i was going to go home and attempt a translation of my own...
ben_vulpes: nowai!
ben_vulpes: resembles strongly the gtrans
ben_vulpes is sorely undereducated for the references in question
ben_vulpes: you know, that kindergarten class
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "first the planes, then and only then the women?" << what's the actual quote i'm looking for here
ben_vulpes: buenos tardes
ben_vulpes back to salt mines
ben_vulpes: and pete_dushenski i'm pretty sure that custom is an acceptable use in that context
ben_vulpes: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-April/000085.html << didn't we cut a version of auto.sh that used foundation-hosted tarballs of all of the above?
ben_vulpes: night boss
ben_vulpes: leadership starts at 6 am or how did it go
ben_vulpes: keep 'em comin, i gotta get my ass back into my life routine
ben_vulpes: aha, ty
ben_vulpes: gap's still like 150 us by my calcs
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: didja know that an iphone is just about cost-even with the low end macbook airs?
ben_vulpes: "Minaj pulled out of Hot 97’s Summer Jam after a DJ criticized Roman’s smash EDM-styled single “Starships” as something other than “real hip-hop.” Lil Wayne and the rest of Young Money canceled their performance at the show as well, in solidarity." << heh.
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: !up Vexual
ben_vulpes: anyways what are you doing watching the hang seng - make anything off that pop at the open?
ben_vulpes: stan couldn't keep his eyes in his head re: girls
ben_vulpes: lotta steak
ben_vulpes: Vexual: man what are you even
ben_vulpes: what...did you expect?
ben_vulpes: it is -ev
ben_vulpes: so instead of...research...you just try random things?
ben_vulpes: lolwut
ben_vulpes: myeah, i'm familiar :P
ben_vulpes: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets << EllieAsksWhy
ben_vulpes: !s first steps
ben_vulpes: arbitunities!
ben_vulpes: <scoopbot_revived> [11:50] News! Short Term Update URL: https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/short-term-update-21/ << to bitcoin-pricetalk with ye
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111733 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-04-2015#1110717 poor kid's getting it coming and going
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111575 << the UP20s go for 15-35K used, depending on how nice they are: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motoman-UP-20-Industrieroboter-20kg-Tragkraft-/131480057745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9cd27791
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you see the fnords, though?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111569 << i've mentioned them several times, just...everyone's blocking them out
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111548 << like that cemetary caretaker, eh?
ben_vulpes: engaging in koan volleys
ben_vulpes: first three months will be dedicated to sweeping floors and staring at a brick "lisp machine"
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111518 << come peacetime we can make a monastery
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c ^^
ben_vulpes: <assbot> ... btcalpha << ty kako!
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old servers << okay fixd
ben_vulpes: yup
ben_vulpes: my mistake my mistake
ben_vulpes: ah gotcha
ben_vulpes: you people keep mistaking me for someone who knows what he's doing or talking about
ben_vulpes: i've only ever racked 1us
ben_vulpes: you're talking about slides etc?
ben_vulpes: usually i bolt them on directly, but i'm a barbarian and haven't actually derped much with physical servers.
ben_vulpes: menahem: try a <pre> tag instead
ben_vulpes: built the whole thing himself, he did
ben_vulpes: Naphex: he runs a payment processor and web fast food order taker/relayer to fast fooderies
ben_vulpes: decimation: what do you mean 'blade-crate' vendor?
ben_vulpes: !up menahem
ben_vulpes: menahem: blockquotes on your blog with the email formatting is a pita to read
ben_vulpes ' tiny brain drips from ears
ben_vulpes: what -- specifically -- hurts about the parens, naphex?
ben_vulpes: wow i've never heard that argument made in the wild
ben_vulpes: bahahaha
ben_vulpes: lol what is clisp?
ben_vulpes: there's nothing more undervalued right now than cheap old blades.
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> trinque: Oh like a stack of rPis in a server enclosure? << just start buying cheap old blades and racking them.
ben_vulpes: fuck if i know.
ben_vulpes: how does it work?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ... prevention of fits-in-head << can vouch for the pita of this in clojure
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://imgur.com/a/xogco << back from this << oooh
ben_vulpes: savvy?
ben_vulpes: hey well mircea_popescu i'm off to have some real coffe
ben_vulpes: the point is a constrasting of how people use keys (properly) and how people use trezors (improperly)
ben_vulpes sobs
ben_vulpes: http://thethug.life/reputation-commodity-exchange/#fn:1 << bro do you even airgap?
ben_vulpes: heh without trust there *is* no product.
ben_vulpes: http://thethug.life/product-before-capital/ << an add'l note on the exchanges is that the product here is of necessity undifferentiable except with how liquid your shit is
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: your post?
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/04/24_bitcoin-needs-no-changes-to-destroy-your-world.html << williamdunne this one is for you, baby
ben_vulpes: as in bible of the commoner?
ben_vulpes: quelle vulgar
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: our vulgate then being pieces distilling conversations in the forum?
ben_vulpes: are you making a reference to the bible translation?
ben_vulpes: is all of the above not...elementary?
ben_vulpes: i can't believe that i felt compelled to write it all out.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> turns out i kinda like ben_vulpes blog. << blush
ben_vulpes: like some derpy nodejs program that got locked on a single queue
ben_vulpes: nooooo
ben_vulpes: aha yeah oops
ben_vulpes: done!
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.chetty.2:d39733695e5e5231057a9eda40b1ee6bbdc8e536db46d48ada534ba1c2020678
ben_vulpes: !rate chetty 2 engineer of the world that was.