ben_vulpes: you have too much respect for your tools
ben_vulpes: the whole point is to not fuck with gentoo and just use something prebuilt
ben_vulpes: wait you tried to build a gentoo on aws?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: omg u troll!
ben_vulpes: that's the attitude
ben_vulpes: dood you know the reward already went out for that thing right?
ben_vulpes: omg the trials of n6
ben_vulpes: subquest of bitcoin quest
ben_vulpes: on mac
ben_vulpes: eulora quest
ben_vulpes: no shit
ben_vulpes: aka 'have not yet slept with enough girls to have sampled the distribution'
ben_vulpes: 'oneitis'
ben_vulpes: evening. ca va?
ben_vulpes: phf has a moe
ben_vulpes: death comes for us all
ben_vulpes: she's as wrinkly as any other senator now
ben_vulpes has nfi why hillary's past looks matter
ben_vulpes: http://digitalchamber.org/ << good ol con con
ben_vulpes: oh yeah what's miss boring up to these days?
ben_vulpes: sheband lol
ben_vulpes: just a tiny lolfruit i picked for the lolfarm
ben_vulpes: Yes, I have an offline backup but say they did not? How can they find the equivalent thing to get back their keys???"
ben_vulpes: "What if someone was using that site and now needs to be able to use the phrase that memorized to get back the keys???
ben_vulpes: long time paaaaassing
ben_vulpes: where have all the core devs gone
ben_vulpes: 'when will they ever learn?'
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229811 << in the movie 'Interstellar', the 'space race' is taught to children as a thing the us used to bankrupt the ussr, and rocket jockeys are villified
ben_vulpes: in other news, americans still can't manage: https://open.bufferapp.com/self-management-hierarchy/
ben_vulpes: gentoo rpg is now just a subquest of bitcoinrpg
ben_vulpes: remember
ben_vulpes: i have no idea, disregard
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: how then to hold territory i guess is a question
ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations that it wasn't quite the focus as it is in eve or wow
ben_vulpes: myeah
ben_vulpes: grues becoime valueable, everyone goes for them, hunts into extinction, their prey emerges
ben_vulpes: players vs environment
ben_vulpes: but who knows
ben_vulpes: all ps vs the e
ben_vulpes: if i recall the con3-versations on the topic, pve's the real game
ben_vulpes: trinque: more for consideration
ben_vulpes: "spreadsheets in space" (tm)
ben_vulpes: in fact those who run its economy rarely even leave the spreadsheets
ben_vulpes: arguably needed nographics.
ben_vulpes: eve, the game.
ben_vulpes: i think you misunderstand the question.
ben_vulpes: what did eve need graphics for?
ben_vulpes: in favor of a few different text based ones
ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
ben_vulpes: seems like a similar approach to what trb and eulora are doing
ben_vulpes: attn trinque
ben_vulpes: https://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2015/07/31/the-gentoo-reference-system-suite-a-new-release-engineering-tool/
ben_vulpes: who knows, we may have to take a dependency on forthos too
ben_vulpes: i still maintain hope that libressl can be used too
ben_vulpes: twould please him no end to see test reports coming in from that platform
ben_vulpes: mod6 has a hardon for openbsd
ben_vulpes: i'll have to cook up a test case or so
ben_vulpes: nifty indeed
ben_vulpes: i know, just ribbing
ben_vulpes: now there's some perl.
ben_vulpes: right right
ben_vulpes: plus i feel thooper thtupid asking all of the "how ams" questions i had about eulora last time
ben_vulpes: 'twas always my gripe with eve.
ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it
ben_vulpes: explorationbot?
ben_vulpes: right.
ben_vulpes: might try again, ask for pointers
ben_vulpes: i musta missed the memo on eulora being an okay casual play
ben_vulpes: dip was pretty short...
ben_vulpes: it keeps ben_vulpes' children fed
ben_vulpes: RUN MORE RAILS
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to coffee, breakfast, fire a girl, do the work she was supposed to do, and then the burbs for a sales meeting
ben_vulpes: s/realized/learned
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) i don't know any formats and b) i stopped expecting things to behave in any particular way when i realized that "tar" is "tape archive"
ben_vulpes: past experiments not worth mentioning.
ben_vulpes: actually i have!
ben_vulpes thinks
ben_vulpes: ofc it makes sense that i'd have to fire up wireshark on this thing eventually
ben_vulpes: but with emphasis on the grand scope of my ignorance
ben_vulpes: no no just reiterating
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know what i want - this whole project is an endless barrel of 'wtf'
ben_vulpes: i am unsurprised to learn that software does not produce human parseable output at the command line
ben_vulpes: really?
ben_vulpes: nooooo
ben_vulpes: i took a brief hack at figuring out how to parse pcap dumps, but not very successfully
ben_vulpes: i plan to take a hammer to the coracle's blockchain soon, would like to know if you see anything interesting in it
ben_vulpes: on a more interesting note, did you get a chance to digest my mL of pcap, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: "compliance is a forest of fingers pointing at everyone else"
ben_vulpes: again, "what eating"
ben_vulpes: i lack the cultural contex to appreciate "тунеядство" here
ben_vulpes: is idling in #b-a now a crime?
ben_vulpes: what eating
ben_vulpes: anywayz, what's the story with decimation, mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: as if!
ben_vulpes: i finally left when he started talking about fuzzing the robocorps
ben_vulpes: moreover "software is eating the law in the sense that bitcoin is here and we do gpg contracts now" is...beyond the derps.
ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing the point, i just don't see the point of engaging on 'formalizing the whole legal system' with a guy who generates xml from erb templates and thinks this is a good idea
ben_vulpes: why the shit do i want to listen to the asshole responsible for the broswer about how software is going to eat law?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> why the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from the creators of the car that sucked. << i was recently at a pitch from legaleze.io wherein the guy who runs the formdump site in question lionized marc andresen, and then displayed a pmarca tweet congratulating him for saying something 'grand' about 'software eating law'
ben_vulpes: lunch
ben_vulpes: oh yeah
ben_vulpes: probably, but now i can't find the line in the logz
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: forgive my thickness but what is the breakfast reference?
ben_vulpes: oh oh
ben_vulpes: hm?
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> drones have not replaced soldiers, just relocated them into air-conditioned cubicles << and only until the em wars get serious
ben_vulpes off to sing at the wee gestational bairn
ben_vulpes: trinque: you've only ever seen me halfway keeled over under a boozeload
ben_vulpes: by whose metrics?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: me?!
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: upstanding?!
ben_vulpes: what a conundrum.
ben_vulpes: <n6> might try openBSD after this.. << openbsd, an os that doesn't take much fucking with where bitcoin might actually build with vs gentoo where its known to build but the os cannot be built by mortals.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: notrly my problem
ben_vulpes: "yes massa", in another age
ben_vulpes: go in, be humble, pretend to be magnificently stupid and rule-followy while still somewhat savvy
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm not a derpy bureaucrat, i eat derpy bureaucrats for lunch
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: iono bb i ask questions i don't answer them
ben_vulpes: gentle mumblings while i slide the 14-incher in
ben_vulpes: half and halfs
ben_vulpes: reacharounds
ben_vulpes: in the sense that everything the shop does is customer service...
ben_vulpes: <trinque> oh yeah? go to the portland django girls << you've actually done this?!
ben_vulpes: does the character now have a spaceship?
ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
ben_vulpes: trinque: but do you have a v8 and the electrical system to drive the thing
ben_vulpes: aha i showed up in the middle of a gentoo quest i see
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: cascadianhacker.com/367850.pcap
ben_vulpes: aha, dulap.b-a.link
ben_vulpes: hm i can't find the dulap dns record in search.bitcoin-assets.com
ben_vulpes: mk
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-08-2015#1220453 << is this still the case?
ben_vulpes: hey man i shit big
ben_vulpes: *sigh*
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i crapped out a 1.25 gig tcpdump :(
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: how long of a pcap run?
ben_vulpes: whoa okay yeah it werkz. i don't.
ben_vulpes: i are a dorp
ben_vulpes: sudo tcpdump?
ben_vulpes: will post emergelog shortly.
ben_vulpes: trinque: tried that.
ben_vulpes: guys i dont understand the first thing about computers
ben_vulpes shrugs, runs emerge again
ben_vulpes: pretty sure.
ben_vulpes: man tcpdump: werkz
ben_vulpes: tcpdump: command not found
ben_vulpes: welp i hosed this gentoo somehow
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: no no no
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: dev-haskell/pcap?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: have yeah.
ben_vulpes doesn't wedge frequently
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any other things i should try before backing up my blockchain and resyncing?
ben_vulpes: but w/e, your shop
ben_vulpes: which is also neat
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that article doesn't highlight chain ancestry
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: side note, perhaps qntra'd run something about how noble nodes that have well-ordered blockchains can now be synced from?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: you didn't find anything interesting in that log of mine, did you?
ben_vulpes: i think my route forward is to back up the existing blockchain, and resync from one of the noble nodes
ben_vulpes: coracle wedged firmly at 367850.
ben_vulpes: (Pynchon)
ben_vulpes: continue. The pain is terrible. With his tongue he mashes shit against the roof of his mouth and begins to chew, thickly now, the only sound in the room. . . .
ben_vulpes: putrefaction of corpses, it was the sovereign smell of their first meeting, and her emblem. The turd slides into his mouth, down to his gullet. He gags, but bravely clamps his teeth shut. Bread that would only have floated in porcelain waters somewhere, unseen, untasted—risen now and baked in the bitter intestinal Oven to bread we know, bread that’s light as domestic comfort, secret as death in bed . . . Spasms in his throat
ben_vulpes: with his lips, sucking on it tenderly, licking along its lower side . . . he is thinking, he’s sorry, he can’t help it, thinking of a Negro’s penis, yes he knows it abrogates part of the conditions set, but it will not be denied, the image of a brute African who will make him behave. . . . The stink of shit floods his nose, gathering him, surrounding. It is the smell of Passchendaele, of the Salient. Mixed with the mud, and the
ben_vulpes: But thoughtful Pointsman, anticipating this, has been sending laxative pills with her meals. Now her intestines whine softly, and she feels shit begin to slide down and out. He kneels with his arms up holding the rich cape. A dark turd appears out the crevice, out of the absolute darkness between her white buttocks. He spreads his knees, awkwardly, until he can feel the leather of her boots. He leans forward to surround the hot turd
ben_vulpes goes looking for shitposts
ben_vulpes: love the shit
ben_vulpes: swallow the shit
ben_vulpes: embrace the shit
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: embrace the webshit. iframe to signed thinger!
ben_vulpes: ^^
ben_vulpes: trinque: continuing our windowing and emacs sojurn: https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm
ben_vulpes: ascii_field, mircea_popescu: didn't hanbot teach us about the dangers of html and gpg earlier?
ben_vulpes: poor mod6 can't catch a break around here
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.n6.1:e630ded4962e532d208a74d782ea9c37451b0858c31fb4280fd9f2c7ddce525e
ben_vulpes: !rate n6 1 crusty blood
ben_vulpes: !gettrust n6
ben_vulpes: n6: d'you plan to get into the wot as well?
ben_vulpes: n6: i understand that this is not a welcome message.
ben_vulpes: i recommend spinning up an aws gentoo instance. i've given up on macos support for this project.
ben_vulpes: you're on your own brave soul
ben_vulpes: ah well
ben_vulpes: n6: are you running on os x?
ben_vulpes: n6 i have no idea, buddy
ben_vulpes: there's always /patches.html...
ben_vulpes: mod6: not that my browser will do anything with the patch files but download them.
ben_vulpes: n6: all of my noodling on the topic resides at http://cascadianhacker.com/bitcoin/callgraph/
ben_vulpes: !up n6
ben_vulpes: we're just exploring the possibility space here
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: has warez?
ben_vulpes: punkman: hell if i know
ben_vulpes: meep. sorry.
ben_vulpes: addrProxy = 127.0.0.1:9050
ben_vulpes: fUseProxy = 0
ben_vulpes: fMinimizeOnClose = 0
ben_vulpes: fMinimizeToTray = 0
ben_vulpes: nTransactionFee = 0
ben_vulpes: fGenerateBitcoins = 0
ben_vulpes: nFileVersion = 50400
ben_vulpes: Loading wallet...
ben_vulpes: block index 63562ms
ben_vulpes: LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=00000000000000000dfc height=367850
ben_vulpes: Loading block index...
ben_vulpes: addresses 26456ms
ben_vulpes: Loaded 39823 addresses
ben_vulpes: dbenv.open strLogDir=/home/ec2-user/.bitcoin/database strErrorFile=/home/ec2-user/.bitcoin/db.log
ben_vulpes: Loading addresses...
ben_vulpes: Default data directory /home/ec2-user/.bitcoin
ben_vulpes: Bitcoin version 0.5.4-beta
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform http://cascadianhacker.com/wedged.log
ben_vulpes: what was the rollover patch called?
ben_vulpes: let me restart the thing and grab the whole bootup log for inspection
ben_vulpes: i was hoping you'd contradict my own conclusions, but alas.
ben_vulpes: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-03/for-his-next-trick-barefoot-genius-aims-to-end-broker-rip-offs
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: my coracle's been wedged at 367850 since last night, even with the new db locks config. last 500 lines of debug.log: http://dpaste.com/1XB21DH.txt , please let me know if more would be useful
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-08-2015#1225499 << i know, apologies all around
ben_vulpes is not terrifically familiar with the git gpg integration
ben_vulpes: interdasting
ben_vulpes: oh
ben_vulpes: git produces patches tho--
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ootb, signed patches. deeding signed patches from darcs is less work than doing so from git etc << how so? i've never touched darcs, the question comes from ignorance.
ben_vulpes to have a brow soothed on a sweet busom
ben_vulpes: i have no answers, only this hill to watch.
ben_vulpes: shall we demand that of the pete_dushenskis and hanbots who wish to run their own hand-compiled foundation releases?
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: yes, and that ought to be in every release << and this raises another question, shall mod6 and i now switch our build process to involve the rotor assemblage?
ben_vulpes: helps, somewhat.
ben_vulpes: mine explode at the line that fails instead of airily carrying on as though nothing happened.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: instructions rot, are dependent on fallible humans. i write scripts.
ben_vulpes: aha trinque's decisionmachine emerges!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1220389 << how long? my maxint_locks build appears to be chewing on this one, but i cannot actually tell.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1223731 << ahahahahahaha
ben_vulpes: note that i haven't.
ben_vulpes: in the meantime, know that these few hours per day *i* do have might be put to better use than derping of dirs.
ben_vulpes: i'll save my "eedjit points" for when i actually cannot resolve things myself.
ben_vulpes: no, for another read through and another hack at "etc. as before" will resolve this.
ben_vulpes: CLEARLY
ben_vulpes: no! for it is a merely a derpy directory structure issue that any sophomore can figure out
ben_vulpes: trinque: was there, saw, comiserated
ben_vulpes: tripped, fell, yelling in fury
ben_vulpes: tendon-snipped by "use your noggin, eedjit" instructions
ben_vulpes: now is when i admit that i've yet to successfully compile bitcoin with rotor
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the antecedents thing for one
ben_vulpes: a forest, not any particular tree