ben_vulpes: undata and trinque are the same guy too, pete
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf_mobile i'm going to give this another whack tonight and then knock off for a spell. cs seems unhappy about...something.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell -hf_mobile i'm going to give this another whack tonight and then knock off for a spell. cs seems unhappy about...something.
ben_vulpes: !up n6
ben_vulpes: static linking is a thing to know about to hack on bitcoin related things
ben_vulpes: nah, 'twasn't you
ben_vulpes: n6: that is beyond me, boss
ben_vulpes: deterministic doesn't have much to do with what you're working on n6
ben_vulpes: they have all the machine code they need in their executeable files
ben_vulpes: statically built programs do not link at runtime, n6
ben_vulpes: ah nm
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "chrysaanthemum"?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: seen the duke engine?
ben_vulpes: wankel like electric is a perpetually recurring fad in cars
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now why'd i do that
ben_vulpes: although i have hopes the corvette will preserve some of its value.
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: yes i would very much like to trade a rapidly depreciating asset for one that doesn't
ben_vulpes: haven't rolled like that since the suburban i drove as a younger boy
ben_vulpes: everyone gets the fuck out of my way.
ben_vulpes: rather nice
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1230220 << tres tres tres nifty
ben_vulpes: kinda want mine painted on my rear fender
ben_vulpes: i like the fingerprint tho, pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> because ip is going away, there's no << hear har
ben_vulpes: running, phf_mobile
ben_vulpes: not on os x!
ben_vulpes: hi bobby! still reading logs?
ben_vulpes: much less protracted than the viragh episode
ben_vulpes: if y'r in pain for 10 hours y'r doing it wrong
ben_vulpes: o.O
ben_vulpes: what drove that decision?
ben_vulpes: >.<
ben_vulpes: > mid wife
ben_vulpes: the midwife is a groat?
ben_vulpes: with a goat?
ben_vulpes: on a boat?
ben_vulpes: hottub in the snow?
ben_vulpes: limit of everything as time goes on is babies
ben_vulpes: doing anything wacky for the deploy?
ben_vulpes: o wow
ben_vulpes: when's yours due?
ben_vulpes: anyways, good evening pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: *** Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) has quit: Excess Flood << hyu
ben_vulpes: n6: good way to make minimal progress on everything
ben_vulpes: as mp said one time "mothers care too much and fathers don't know wtf's in the box"
ben_vulpes: but those to whom that work has been delegated have other probably more sane ideas
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i did mention cosleeping yeah
ben_vulpes: and what the hell are they drinking
ben_vulpes: girl on the left looks startlingly familiar
ben_vulpes: probably will for funsies, but it turns out the plan is to have a basinette next to the bed
ben_vulpes: kiddo's still in-utero, cazalla
ben_vulpes: a very funny name for gaijin to cook up.
ben_vulpes: aka 'baka'
ben_vulpes: ahaha
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'ohka'?
ben_vulpes: do you want to do gentoo quest or do you want to play around with the callgraph generator?
ben_vulpes: dude you're not flying spaceships right now
ben_vulpes: welcome to a whole new life of misery
ben_vulpes: well, 'grats on getting off windows
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: also - what's your background?
ben_vulpes: n6: look up "dynamic linking"
ben_vulpes: no sex?
ben_vulpes: like
ben_vulpes wonders what poking too much would look like
ben_vulpes: in entirely unrelated news, the lil boy now kicks back when i poke at him
ben_vulpes: almost not worthwhile.
ben_vulpes: instructions, man.
ben_vulpes: i believe that i've mentioned this before
ben_vulpes: designed things so as to prevent inquisitive operators from mutilating themselves?
ben_vulpes: dja know that i wrote assembly manuals for line operators, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: WILKOMMEN
ben_vulpes: $ rotor
ben_vulpes: understanding is an quixotic illusion
ben_vulpes: gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: look guy wants to build bitcoin, go do it over there in the gentoo virtualization sandbox that Ju5t Werkz!
ben_vulpes: el minimo
ben_vulpes: i have
ben_vulpes: you have too much respect for your tools
ben_vulpes: the whole point is to not fuck with gentoo and just use something prebuilt
ben_vulpes: wait you tried to build a gentoo on aws?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: omg u troll!
ben_vulpes: that's the attitude
ben_vulpes: dood you know the reward already went out for that thing right?
ben_vulpes: omg the trials of n6
benkay: and does it silently drop xml files too, mircea_popescu ?
benkay shan't
ben_vulpes: subquest of bitcoin quest
ben_vulpes: on mac
ben_vulpes: eulora quest
ben_vulpes: no shit
ben_vulpes: aka 'have not yet slept with enough girls to have sampled the distribution'
ben_vulpes: 'oneitis'
ben_vulpes: evening. ca va?
ben_vulpes: phf has a moe
ben_vulpes: death comes for us all
ben_vulpes: she's as wrinkly as any other senator now
ben_vulpes has nfi why hillary's past looks matter
ben_vulpes: http://digitalchamber.org/ << good ol con con
ben_vulpes: oh yeah what's miss boring up to these days?
ben_vulpes: sheband lol
ben_vulpes: just a tiny lolfruit i picked for the lolfarm
ben_vulpes: Yes, I have an offline backup but say they did not? How can they find the equivalent thing to get back their keys???"
ben_vulpes: "What if someone was using that site and now needs to be able to use the phrase that memorized to get back the keys???
ben_vulpes: long time paaaaassing
ben_vulpes: where have all the core devs gone
ben_vulpes: 'when will they ever learn?'
benkay: no no
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1229811 << in the movie 'Interstellar', the 'space race' is taught to children as a thing the us used to bankrupt the ussr, and rocket jockeys are villified
ben_vulpes: in other news, americans still can't manage: https://open.bufferapp.com/self-management-hierarchy/
ben_vulpes: gentoo rpg is now just a subquest of bitcoinrpg
ben_vulpes: remember
ben_vulpes: i have no idea, disregard
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: how then to hold territory i guess is a question
ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations that it wasn't quite the focus as it is in eve or wow
ben_vulpes: myeah
ben_vulpes: grues becoime valueable, everyone goes for them, hunts into extinction, their prey emerges
ben_vulpes: players vs environment
ben_vulpes: but who knows
ben_vulpes: all ps vs the e
ben_vulpes: if i recall the con3-versations on the topic, pve's the real game
ben_vulpes: trinque: more for consideration
ben_vulpes: "spreadsheets in space" (tm)
ben_vulpes: in fact those who run its economy rarely even leave the spreadsheets
ben_vulpes: arguably needed nographics.
ben_vulpes: eve, the game.
ben_vulpes: i think you misunderstand the question.
ben_vulpes: what did eve need graphics for?
ben_vulpes: in favor of a few different text based ones
ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
ben_vulpes: seems like a similar approach to what trb and eulora are doing
ben_vulpes: attn trinque
ben_vulpes: https://blogs.gentoo.org/blueness/2015/07/31/the-gentoo-reference-system-suite-a-new-release-engineering-tool/
ben_vulpes: who knows, we may have to take a dependency on forthos too
ben_vulpes: i still maintain hope that libressl can be used too
ben_vulpes: twould please him no end to see test reports coming in from that platform
ben_vulpes: mod6 has a hardon for openbsd
ben_vulpes: i'll have to cook up a test case or so
ben_vulpes: nifty indeed
ben_vulpes: i know, just ribbing
ben_vulpes: now there's some perl.
ben_vulpes: right right
ben_vulpes: plus i feel thooper thtupid asking all of the "how ams" questions i had about eulora last time
ben_vulpes: 'twas always my gripe with eve.
ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it
ben_vulpes: explorationbot?
ben_vulpes: right.
ben_vulpes: might try again, ask for pointers
ben_vulpes: i musta missed the memo on eulora being an okay casual play
ben_vulpes: dip was pretty short...
ben_vulpes: it keeps ben_vulpes' children fed
ben_vulpes: RUN MORE RAILS
ben_vulpes: anyways, i'm off to coffee, breakfast, fire a girl, do the work she was supposed to do, and then the burbs for a sales meeting
ben_vulpes: s/realized/learned
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: a) i don't know any formats and b) i stopped expecting things to behave in any particular way when i realized that "tar" is "tape archive"
ben_vulpes: past experiments not worth mentioning.
ben_vulpes: actually i have!
ben_vulpes thinks
ben_vulpes: ofc it makes sense that i'd have to fire up wireshark on this thing eventually
ben_vulpes: but with emphasis on the grand scope of my ignorance
ben_vulpes: no no just reiterating
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't know what i want - this whole project is an endless barrel of 'wtf'
ben_vulpes: i am unsurprised to learn that software does not produce human parseable output at the command line
ben_vulpes: really?
ben_vulpes: nooooo
ben_vulpes: i took a brief hack at figuring out how to parse pcap dumps, but not very successfully
ben_vulpes: i plan to take a hammer to the coracle's blockchain soon, would like to know if you see anything interesting in it
ben_vulpes: on a more interesting note, did you get a chance to digest my mL of pcap, asciilifeform?
ben_vulpes: "compliance is a forest of fingers pointing at everyone else"
ben_vulpes: again, "what eating"
ben_vulpes: i lack the cultural contex to appreciate "тунеядство" here
ben_vulpes: is idling in #b-a now a crime?
ben_vulpes: what eating
ben_vulpes: anywayz, what's the story with decimation, mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: as if!
ben_vulpes: i finally left when he started talking about fuzzing the robocorps
ben_vulpes: moreover "software is eating the law in the sense that bitcoin is here and we do gpg contracts now" is...beyond the derps.
ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing the point, i just don't see the point of engaging on 'formalizing the whole legal system' with a guy who generates xml from erb templates and thinks this is a good idea
ben_vulpes: why the shit do i want to listen to the asshole responsible for the broswer about how software is going to eat law?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> why the everloving fuck would i want a car with better hidden failure modes from the creators of the car that sucked. << i was recently at a pitch from legaleze.io wherein the guy who runs the formdump site in question lionized marc andresen, and then displayed a pmarca tweet congratulating him for saying something 'grand' about 'software eating law'
ben_vulpes: lunch
ben_vulpes: oh yeah
ben_vulpes: probably, but now i can't find the line in the logz
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: forgive my thickness but what is the breakfast reference?
ben_vulpes: oh oh
ben_vulpes: hm?
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> drones have not replaced soldiers, just relocated them into air-conditioned cubicles << and only until the em wars get serious
ben_vulpes off to sing at the wee gestational bairn
ben_vulpes: trinque: you've only ever seen me halfway keeled over under a boozeload
ben_vulpes: by whose metrics?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: me?!
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: upstanding?!
ben_vulpes: what a conundrum.
ben_vulpes: <n6> might try openBSD after this.. << openbsd, an os that doesn't take much fucking with where bitcoin might actually build with vs gentoo where its known to build but the os cannot be built by mortals.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: notrly my problem
ben_vulpes: "yes massa", in another age
ben_vulpes: go in, be humble, pretend to be magnificently stupid and rule-followy while still somewhat savvy
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i'm not a derpy bureaucrat, i eat derpy bureaucrats for lunch
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: iono bb i ask questions i don't answer them
ben_vulpes: gentle mumblings while i slide the 14-incher in
ben_vulpes: half and halfs
ben_vulpes: reacharounds
ben_vulpes: in the sense that everything the shop does is customer service...
ben_vulpes: <trinque> oh yeah? go to the portland django girls << you've actually done this?!
ben_vulpes: does the character now have a spaceship?
ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
ben_vulpes: ksh-sh-sh-sh-sh-shewm
ben_vulpes: trinque: but do you have a v8 and the electrical system to drive the thing
ben_vulpes: aha i showed up in the middle of a gentoo quest i see
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: cascadianhacker.com/367850.pcap
ben_vulpes: aha, dulap.b-a.link
ben_vulpes: hm i can't find the dulap dns record in search.bitcoin-assets.com
ben_vulpes: mk
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=01-08-2015#1220453 << is this still the case?
ben_vulpes: hey man i shit big
ben_vulpes: *sigh*
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i crapped out a 1.25 gig tcpdump :(
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: how long of a pcap run?
ben_vulpes: whoa okay yeah it werkz. i don't.
ben_vulpes: i are a dorp
ben_vulpes: sudo tcpdump?
ben_vulpes: will post emergelog shortly.
ben_vulpes: trinque: tried that.
ben_vulpes: guys i dont understand the first thing about computers
ben_vulpes shrugs, runs emerge again
ben_vulpes: pretty sure.
ben_vulpes: man tcpdump: werkz
ben_vulpes: tcpdump: command not found
ben_vulpes: welp i hosed this gentoo somehow
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: no no no
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: dev-haskell/pcap?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: have yeah.
ben_vulpes doesn't wedge frequently
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: any other things i should try before backing up my blockchain and resyncing?
ben_vulpes: but w/e, your shop
ben_vulpes: which is also neat
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: that article doesn't highlight chain ancestry
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: side note, perhaps qntra'd run something about how noble nodes that have well-ordered blockchains can now be synced from?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: you didn't find anything interesting in that log of mine, did you?
ben_vulpes: i think my route forward is to back up the existing blockchain, and resync from one of the noble nodes
ben_vulpes: coracle wedged firmly at 367850.
ben_vulpes: (Pynchon)