Naphex: can you scale that C++ engine up, or will you just be running on single big server?
Naphex: on what OS is the trading engine going to run? Are the components sufficiently isolated?
Naphex: what's it written in? the project?
Naphex: do you know what you get with the product you're paying for?:P
Naphex: are you doing regular code checks, security audit on the source code?
Naphex: MrWDunne - are you using inhouse developed software? buying it or extrernalizing?
Naphex: so what's this new exchange you're openning MrWDunne ?
Naphex: sorry was out for dinner break
Naphex: back
Naphex: morning to all, need more coffee:D
Naphex: morn
Naphex: ;;ident
Naphex: gn o/
Naphex: ;;seen tcatm
Naphex: sorry, don't follow alts
Naphex: what is atc?
Naphex: ;;ident
Naphex: incoming split?
Naphex: BingoBoingo: hey, if you have any suggestions, annoiances or any feedback regarding usage of btcxchange, shoot any time. :D
Naphex: nice move, doable. mastercard might have a field day though :D
Naphex: the roughly, and average chitchat, is if bitcoin values moves, you might have less then that 10% of the value on the card. until it readjusts
Naphex: i think thats mostly it:o
Naphex: so.. customer stores btc, credit 10% of btc value to corporate issued mastercard, use spends it. hold the btc
Naphex: "Casares explained that Xapo added the product due to demand from current customers who have wanted a way to spend the roughly 10% of their funds (on average) they keep in the company’s hot wallets. The remainder is stored securely in cold storage."
Naphex: ThickAsThieves: i think they just have a multi-account system, issue a mastercard, give USD, take BTC
Naphex: mircea_popescu: http://www.alienconcept.ro/
Naphex: physical machine wouldn't be hard at all
Naphex: so they can start advertising to online stores
Naphex: working on the btc payments gateway
Naphex: btcxchange-rpc api should support mostly anything. but i'm swamped
Naphex: atleast thats how i heard it proposed
Naphex: mircea_popescu: probably with btc from the bar, and house buys btc back.
Naphex: :)
Naphex: pacanelele
Naphex: the ones the put in 'birts', what are they called mircea_popescu ?
Naphex: dooglus: ever tought about putting out an API? I've heard of guys who'd want to put JustDice in a Romanian Gabling Machine :)
Naphex: thats taboo now though!
Naphex: moldova
Naphex: MD still talks like that:]
Naphex: :((
Naphex: omg
Naphex: that a lada? :p
Naphex: :))
Naphex: :)
Naphex: and wait for us to withdraw money from their account
Naphex: or others who just fill the deposit form
Naphex: without hitting withdraw. then they call mad
Naphex: after selling their btc
Naphex: there are clients who go and wait by the atmi
Naphex: thx jurov
Naphex: IDing
Naphex: sounds right?
Naphex: mircea_popescu: q, if user wants to change gpg key. req gpgauth. if lost only real-life iding process will recover
Naphex: damn phone, sec let me move
Naphex: Naphex: seriously what?:o
Naphex: severs rock too, should carry lots
Naphex: thq thq
Naphex: mircea_popescu: former rtbtc
Naphex: zeroblock
Naphex: will deff integrate with rtbtc
Naphex: for sure
Naphex: but i wrote a interface for it just in case :p
Naphex: fix sucks
Naphex: in bed and laizy :)
Naphex: benkay: hehe sorry ben, using phone
Naphex: highly recommend it
Naphex: deficated locked down racks
Naphex: bucharest
Naphex: mircea_popescu: gts telecom
Naphex: off home. later
Naphex: :P
Naphex: where you get an account manager that you know
Naphex: i still prefer having my own serves(bought hardware), coloc'd at industrial datacenters
Naphex: i'm not a fan of the cloud
Naphex: fluffypony: never used them. but i'n genereal i wouldn't run bitcoin services on anything else then dedicated owned servers :P
Naphex: http://gfycat.com/ElderlyAptCorydorascatfish - i loled hard :))
Naphex: haha
Naphex: :D
Naphex: for the smallies
Naphex: 2xE5-2620v2 - 4x8GB(RECC) - 2x600GB(ST/SAS) - LSi9260-4i 1RU
Naphex: 2xE5-2640v2 - 4x8GB(RECC) - 8x256GB(SAM/SSD) - LSI9271-8i 2RU :D
Naphex: time to do some benchs
Naphex: woot. new servers got here :D
Naphex: ;/
Naphex: rainy day
Naphex: ;;ident
Naphex: morning
Naphex: gn o/
Naphex: :P
Naphex: are the issue
Naphex: no fiat withdrawals/deposits
Naphex: now don't know the specifics. but i will foward the european payment systems thingie, and see what answer comes
Naphex: davout: that question i've asked. and thats the answer I received. That by Romanian law everything required we have to operate.
Naphex: there'se 3 more working on a bitcoin atm
Naphex: with more but on different projects
Naphex: davout: 6
Naphex: mircea_popescu: i will tomorrow :P
Naphex: also i'm paid to code the stuff up. and make sure it doesn't get owned.
Naphex: davout: thats as far as i know lol
Naphex: sorry davout, can't answer much on that field.
Naphex: don't do law:[
Naphex: the firm is registerd, and registration printed
Naphex: what financial registration are you reffering to? does one exist?;o
Naphex: davout: there is no _need_ for it atm.
Naphex: so thats sorted
Naphex: got a gf :]
Naphex: and everyone can do whatever they do best
Naphex: and bank relations are great
Naphex: well all is clear atm
Naphex: bucharest
Naphex: lawyer firm
Naphex: gc?
Naphex: by Romanian law
Naphex: davout: not sure how to answer that, or if a financiall registration is required. but all is operating completly legally
Naphex: davout: what do you mean?
Naphex: davout: from the little i understand, its mostly sorted and all authorities consulted
Naphex: davout: i'm not the best to ask about financial stuff. but therese lawyers, and accountants and other people
Naphex: first listing ;]
Naphex: same day delivery in romania though, so primary market
Naphex: we have sepa so you can withdraw eur, with way bigger fees
Naphex: kakobrekla: so RON/BTC is the only pair atm, with EUR,others to come soon while we still work some stuff out.
Naphex: switched back to pc
Naphex: probably
Naphex: and get soke bank conversion fees
Naphex: but you can withdar eur
Naphex: kakobrekla: ron is the only fiat atm
Naphex: and other unrelated
Naphex: mircea_popescu: i will. only have special keys for docs and ndas
Naphex: davout: around december
Naphex: yep. i'll add it. i like gpg
Naphex: all uploada are limited
Naphex: ill add it to tasks, i like the idea
Naphex: mircea_popescu: will do
Naphex: hehe
Naphex: was on the news
Naphex: fluffypony: its the same in romania
Naphex: only in romania
Naphex: just heard on tv.
Naphex: balauru inseamna pacatul, preotii recomanda rugaciunile pentru a proteja animalele din ogara
Naphex: :))
Naphex: everybody throw a btc idea out there, as fast as possible :p
Naphex: if not all
Naphex: neo drama killed lots of its momentum imo
Naphex: mircea_popescu: hitbtc says they got 7m usd, in investments
Naphex: what else is there to live for?
Naphex: wtfux
Naphex: cp royalties?
Naphex: :))
Naphex: mircea_popescu: wth, you have mice indoors?
Naphex: thats why i was asking
Naphex: fluffypony: i know, a lot of implos i reviewex had very bugged tracking
Naphex: ah
Naphex: to 4 different addresses that you track awaiting payment
Naphex: fluffypony: yeah but in my case you are receiving 4 payments in the same tx
Naphex: and send 0.1 to each
Naphex: send*
Naphex: fluffypony: what happens if i senf a tx to multiple addresses you track
Naphex: that might easily cause problems with a bad implo
Naphex: fluffypony: a lot of the cases are around how you aquire and track tx data
Naphex: lots of edge cases
Naphex: fluffypony: plenty of room for explotation there. which will bug out and might cause your 0conf balance to go wildly negative
Naphex: does anyone use bitundo?
Naphex: dunno
Naphex: ok. does paybee issue 'different' pub addresses for deposits/payments
Naphex: does paybee accept 0conf?
Naphex: this is in paybee context yes?
Naphex: ah
Naphex: well where do you get confirmation data from?
Naphex: what trades?
Naphex: so what happens if you get attacked with double spends
Naphex: fluffypony: yes, and add a buffer at your local bank
Naphex: fluffypony: yeah but youre just sending customer money
Naphex: fluffypony: is bitcoin recognised as a financial instrument? or 'electronic money' in SA?
Naphex: lawyers and accountants
Naphex: lawyera
Naphex: paybee - personally i'd just stick with btc2fiat and implement locally.
Naphex: then fowards to bitpay?
Naphex: ah so paybee just accepta altcoins?
Naphex: but we wouldnlt even think about that before doing the exchange first
Naphex: we're opening our payment services for fiat soonish.
Naphex: jesus :p
Naphex: who will you exchange with for paybee?
Naphex: goxbeeflyknc?
Naphex: lol
Naphex: pay to carry voip with cryptos
Naphex: hard to type from phone
Naphex: phone looks for strongest signal
Naphex: have a radio mesh of transcievers
Naphex: nah regular telephonyi
Naphex: pay2relay
Naphex: decentralized telephony
Naphex: cmon guys
Naphex: i could start working on the payments api but nuff work for the day
Naphex: party finished over there hehe so too late ;l
Naphex: today* even
Naphex: boring day todau :)
Naphex: bbl o/
Naphex: lots of work today
Naphex: yeah just finished checking it out
Naphex: ah good ol reddit dukeouts
Naphex: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23r9n2/lets_use_mike_hearns_coinbase_reallocation_to/
Naphex: A sells Douche to B through bitcoin, B cand then send a signed rate after.
Naphex: and from the same source
Naphex: make it signed before you submit a rateing
Naphex: so.. why not just rate bitcoin transactions?
Naphex: where do you get them points from?
Naphex: showing the most voted stuff up
Naphex: just a ranking algo, doing its job
Naphex: i wouldn't read too much into it
Naphex: to get the hot thing going
Naphex: some downvotes are auto and not from downvoters anyway
Naphex: if i would've had more time i would deffinetly do a ISK/BTC exchange just for fun:D
Naphex: don't know whats going on but one of the guys there is the lead economist at CCP/Eve Online http://vib.is/fraedsla/bein-utsending/
Naphex: so here is something interesting, http://vib.is/fraedsla/bein-utsending/ investor round table for Bitcoin in island :]
Naphex: nothing of value anyway
Naphex: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304049904579518224044905190?mg=reno64-ws (paywall'd)
Naphex: even after that hickup, what a week ago?:)
Naphex: So AtlasATS is partnering with NSE
Naphex: let me read up and figure out whats going on
Naphex: they nailed me in a police action with a granny crossing:(
Naphex: police managed to get my license, a week ago
Naphex: ftp :)
Naphex: morning ;]
Naphex: ;;lasers
Naphex: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/upshot/the-american-middle-class-is-no-longer-the-worlds-richest.html
Naphex: so let the users post evidence and yell, and let the community decide :D
Naphex: and its filled with the funniest things ever.
Naphex: the game actually set up a community tribunal
Naphex: mircea_popescu: league of legends
Naphex: hehe
Naphex: yet we still dont have that
Naphex: a normal market with escrow/mediations and marketable ads is enough imho
Naphex: for the lulz
Naphex: for mediations
Naphex: set up community tribunal
Naphex: i cant wait for decentralized voip with pay2relay telephony
Naphex: what ads will run for encrypted emails? ;o
Naphex: didn't google launch gmail just too show ads on your mail context?
Naphex: oh man, the tehnology nowadays, and i used to just turn on the water
Naphex: :))
Naphex: hehe
Naphex: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23m1de/vault_of_satoshi_launches_full_public_proof_of/ / http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/23m3xg/vault_of_satoshi_launches_full_public_proof_of/
Naphex: :P
Naphex: people can check what balance 'their' cold-wallet has, rawr rawr, everybody's auditing