mircea_popescu: spamhaus also, apparently. for anyone actually believing the "we are here to halp" angle.
gribble: The Spamhaus Whitelist: <https://www.spamhaus.org/whitelist/>; Whitelisting website email so it is not rejected as spam - Stack ...: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2629614/whitelisting-website-email-so-it-is-not-rejected-as-spam>; Whitelisting Email Servers and IPs | GoDaddy Email Marketing ...: <https://www.godaddy.com/help/whitelisting-email-servers-and-ips-15910>
mircea_popescu: buncha fucktarded scammers running the concern troll angle, "oh, subscribe to our service to protect yourself from spam"
mircea_popescu: jurov wtf ? a) i've been getting offers to "Whitelist" my mail server for the low low price of whatever for a decade now. b) you just said you checked yourself, what do you mean.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-21 12:43 asciilifeform: 'Based on the information I have available to me, it appears that the MIT ChainAnchor Project is in part an attempt to get Bitcoin users to register their real world identities and associate their transactions with those identities. Initially this would be on an opt-in basis, however it appears that ChainAnchor has a longer-term plan to bribe and coerce miners into only mining transactions from registered users, eventually prohibitin
asciilifeform: and recall, they are in the process of the exact same 'embrace & extinguish' for bitcoin, e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-21#1454505
asciilifeform: where is the funeral ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-29 14:05 mircea_popescu: i'll spend a thousand to ddos incapsula off the internet before i spend a dollar for such bullshit.
jurov: what? email behaves the same way. once you're on blacklist, servers mostly won't bother to inform you
mircea_popescu: i'll spend a thousand to ddos incapsula off the internet before i spend a dollar for such bullshit.
asciilifeform: it is the answer to mircea_popescu's riddle of 'why they all walk in same direction' tho.
asciilifeform: to the eaten - not.
asciilifeform: just like lion is not the same animal to kid staring in the zoo vs kid in africa being chewed
mircea_popescu: there's only one money.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck is in that kaaba stone already!
mircea_popescu: billions of seemingly normal humans, entirely hollow husks filled with piss, all shambling in the EXACT same direction of the same mecca.
mircea_popescu: ok, i understand the part where in order to participate in the bizarro cult of whatever the fuck you gotta abandon any possibility of independent thought, even in principle, and preferablty before puberty. fine.
mircea_popescu: dude how the fuck.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, libpq refuses to link statically.
mircea_popescu: not possibru, "mozilla" didn't exist then
scalpl: mircea_popescu: how much noise may i make in the channel while voiced?
adlai: sadly my cost basis is already pessimal due to abysmal timing of buying an ethercent to play with before vitalik pooped
adlai: these idiots who never heard of functional APIs prefix every side-effect-free call with "return". nuts! https://poloniex.com/support/api/
adlai: although they assured me that my coupla bitcents were safe there, seeing as they're all "investing" double-digit btc in swaps
adlai: it's already well along the well trod path - the SCIA has already reported withdrawal difficulties
adlai: scalpl, having enjoyed mircea_popescu's options emporium during the dying throes of its public trade, will henceforth enjoy the dying throes of vitalik_buterin's nonsense polonium. more news once it actually loses money.
adlai: you don't know the half of it, just the other day my ptsdogenic fund paid for my university catharsis
BingoBoingo: trinque: That's how hamplanets feel all the time
adlai waits for the State of April address
mod6: Ok, made some changes here.. updated for 80 cols, added a thing to print with HTML, made the code a bit prettier, it's still have some work to do. But if anyone wants to check it out: http://dpaste.com/22Z34X5.txt http://dpaste.com/0TA7AD2.txt
adlai had the gall to ask for pharmaceutical cannabidiol... "maybe next year. right now you need zyprexa!!!1!1!"
adlai has discovered that staying up all night sufficiently counteracts the boringness. vox resumica ca 30th hour, so s'all good, man!
BingoBoingo: Hey, thorazine was the first 'atypical'
adlai: tl;dl: atypical (aka 'modern', as in "we don't yet have the faintest clue ~why~ this one does") antipsychotic (aka 'disabilify'), perscribed for telling people too much truth, of the paranoid flavor
mircea_popescu looks at the local pharma experts to explain what that one does.
mircea_popescu: they should make disabilify.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo likes the alliteration, at least eat one.
asciilifeform: the 'no difference between that FAILED act of liberation and the genuine article. she after all never succeeded' is... guess what: perl
mircea_popescu: a mechanism described by clinicians since close to two centuries ago, but who the hell cares amirite.
mircea_popescu: and by this fundamental act of nominalistic equivalency, the insanity preserves itself.
mircea_popescu: so she's more than happy to THINK she's a terrorist, all the more as she isn't even close.
mircea_popescu: but because, in the naive girly's imagination, there's no difference between that FAILED act of liberation and the genuine article. she after all never succeeded.
mircea_popescu: (the movie is very illustrative of old cunt poison, actually. girly buys herself a better looking dress, old woman (who she lives with!) tears it, then withstands the coming assault (which is what women do ftr), and then gets the victim to cry and then they paradoxically bond further (also what women do) and, AND, for the grand finale, the coup de grace, comments that "forgiveness comes easy BECAUSE THEY ARE HOTBLOODED.")
mircea_popescu: anyone seen "the piano teacher" btw ?
mircea_popescu: but because she doesn't believe there's anything else for her.
mircea_popescu: the problem there is still entirely mental. their reaction to famine is to further oppress young females, so you won't be able to buy one not because all she does all day is sit in a concrete jail and watch youtube vids
asciilifeform: they will be sold, as slavs were sold, in pallets
mircea_popescu: there'll be some famine.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's no way to recreditatron this bubble. they're about 5 bn short. nobody's sp[ending 50bn to buy 40mn inept turdheads.
asciilifeform: tho slavs only blackened because there was no lizard investment in'em
mircea_popescu: you may think that's white. anglos don't. meanwhile spanish folks, fucked by the arabs into a shade barely distinct from maghreb's, white as the queen's own milk.
mircea_popescu: right, BECAUSE THEYRE WHITE
asciilifeform: i dun see the famine tho, it'll be a usg/cn recreditatron
mircea_popescu: she's no fucking presidenta, she's an old whore from west texas. looks, ~and thinks~ like she did the trucker routes all her life
mircea_popescu: they readily agree with me when i say "argentina is horribly managed". they have not the fucking inklest of an idea wtf they mean,
mircea_popescu: about 1/3 of the country's trade defficit is rich idiots "investing"
mircea_popescu: they also believe "de lujo" means 60k crap from the us, fucking ford fiestas and whatnit
mircea_popescu: this is not even a joke. they believe cars are "an investment"
asciilifeform: who the fuck 'saves' in ... cars
mircea_popescu: then "el fiscal marijuan" (i kid you not) discovered that there are "a lot more properties than previously known". ie, looked under the tarp.
mircea_popescu: HE COULD HAVE DONE THE DEED HIMSELF. did not.
mircea_popescu: he has had almost half a year, during which he failed to drive the 200 "automoviles de lujo" ie, upmarket consumer crap across the border into chile.
mircea_popescu: now, he's also an argentine. he was the main man of the ex-president, govt changed, he would have to be thicker than the law permits to not realise they're coming to steal his shit next.
mircea_popescu: so this schmuck is an "entrepreneur", whatever, typical socialist state constructed leech, like they have in ro ru us etc. a peter thiel (speaking of which, anyone actually recall the x.com thing ? which is how he became famous in the first place ?)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll give you another mindfuck, by explaining the baez reference mentioned en passant.
mod6: This is a bar where the waitress brought me champagne but forgot the napkin, and when I asked for one she couldn't produce such. Brought me a towel instead. What the hell's the difference, right ? << lol
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 'Mathematics Research Group, National Security Agency, Fort George G. Meade'
asciilifeform: from the dept. of definitely-not-nyooz, http://www.emis.de/journals/INTEGERS/papers/l6/l6.pdf << strictly for aficionados !
deedbot: [Qntra] New Vatican Bank Scandal: Coinbase Style Account Closures - http://qntra.net/2016/04/godfather_part_3_was_boring/
asciilifeform: ^ in othernyooz.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the bus thing is quite a mindfuck
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, apparently you can get rf shielding spray paint
mircea_popescu: there's also undrinkable piss, so it's a skill all in its own.
mircea_popescu: yes, there's a coupla very good types.
shinohai: Was the champagne at least good?
mircea_popescu: come to where the flavour is.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: and there is still such a thing as 'export ciphers' ?!
asciilifeform: l0l, nadia heninger in there
shinohai wishes Russians really had blown that whacko midget Tom Cruise out of the sky in Top Gun.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also in fairness, they were modernised migs. many things, but especially an electronic warfare module from israel that at the time was absolutely top of the line.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a more complex version, they do the target acquisition and simulated shooting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how are these normally played? 'laser tag' ?
mircea_popescu: this is not to say romania is any kind of genius pit. it's simply to say that in any sort of full scale confrontation, the russians have air supremacy over any battlefield outside the continental us.
mircea_popescu: they also downed EVERY SINGLE US FIGHTER, with those same migs.
mircea_popescu: shinohai it should perhaps be added that a decade ago, when romania was fresh in nato etc, there was a joint exercise, with romania being designated the bad guy because they flew migs.
asciilifeform: (they have a supply of foreign hardware but it is precious and rarely switched on)
shinohai: http://www.stripes.com/news/us/pentagon-to-test-f-35-against-a-10-in-common-sense-war-scenario-showdown-1.406393 "As soon as we can get the planes to stop rebooting their systems midair and junk"
trinque: who didn't see it coming since they first did NaCl?
trinque: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/how-long-until-we-see-google-play-on-windows-mac-os-and-linux/ << moar google is the new m1cro$hit
asciilifeform: 'As an example, Hypponen said he had recently spoken to a European aircraft maker that said it cleans the cockpits of its planes every week of malware designed for Android phones. The malware spread to the planes only because factory employees were charging their phones with the USB port in the cockpit.'
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo please show him the instruments.
mircea_popescu: certainly the coupla refugee chechens trying to pass for serbs in the 1990s were fun to party with :D
mircea_popescu: i lived there, certainly in more states than the majority of citizens, had a great time of it.
mircea_popescu has lived with bedouins, would pick them over ustards if had to.
asciilifeform: punkman: deserts create their own sort of chukcha.
punkman: surviving in the desert is also hard neh?
mircea_popescu: and, for that matter, explain the n-s stratification of china.
mircea_popescu: and the golden crescent, and egypt.
mircea_popescu: explain the ur-example of this trope, babylon.
mircea_popescu: you should see all the stiff nippled, shriveling, сморщенность chicks sporting greatcoats and whatnot lmao.
mircea_popescu: in other argentina news, cold snap here (was 5-7 degrees three nights running, this is an outrage. it snows once a century in buenos aires), gas pressure down by 70%, it's a wonder anything still works.
mircea_popescu: trinque mind getting deedbot to join #eulora also so i have wot access there directly ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
punkman: more EU derping, "OPINION of the Committee on the Internal Market and Consumer Protection for the Committee on Economic and Monetary Affairs on virtual currencies" http://dpaste.com/0WCYXG8
jurov: lol that "extra layer of legitimacy" is their own wording?
punkman: "Luxembourg has granted a license to bitcoin exchange Bitstamp making it Europe's first fully regulated payment institution for the cryptocurrency with expectations high that an extra layer of legitimacy could lead more people to trade bitcoin."
King_Rex: I must be going now, I'll be back to chat another time.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> there's a special us tool dentists get << my USian desntist brother if his stories are to be believed doesn't really ever get to use many tools other than various prying devices.
BingoBoingo: $up King_Rex with the redundant nick
asciilifeform: ah! the brain liquifier!
mircea_popescu: there's a special us tool dentists get
BingoBoingo: just be careful with plastics in there because may be degreased out of being.
asciilifeform: in other 'news', ultrasonic baths are great and i have nfi why did not buy one years and years ago.
BingoBoingo: When qntra falls, it falls to rise again after smashing and spreading a drama below the clouds in which qntra sits.
BingoBoingo: Qntra is a rock above drama in other business concerns.
King_Rex: reading up on the schism w/ b-a
shinohai: I made a buncha fake tickets the graph system is super nifty mod6
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Hit up any walmarts to photograph the fauna on your safari?
ben_vulpes: having recently returned from detroit and misc ohio suburbs, my part of the coast has, in comparison, nearly zero 'obeasts'.
BingoBoingo: Not obesity rates began their upwards march as he transitioned into politics.
BingoBoingo: Hastert was one of the last of an era apparently.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: well, if you dun wanna wrassle better than coach what better way to protect your butthole than with a thick layer of folds that block the hole.
BingoBoingo: Anyways asciilifeform having a coach Hastert in High School lets kids grow up knowing the world is a dangerous place and that if they aren't careful there is the very real risk of coach buggering them in the locker room. Without a coach like that you get obeasts who misrepresent anti-sexual expressions of revulsion at their candidia ridden adipose folds as rape.
shinohai: I read shit like that and I *want* iIran to nuke the US
asciilifeform: plus the grinding wheel.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the lulziest bit is that it looks like he made it simply from what was on the desk
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: talk about automating the reactor controls...
a111: Logged on 2016-04-27 22:38 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/f042b5e45461a51ee142fdb9ac1cc12e/tumblr_mtc3hvHXsA1sgrc4wo1_400.gif
BingoBoingo: I mean for a sport with individual competitions it also teaches group cohesion when everyone knows what coach does to the stragglers.
BingoBoingo: Though I guess I can see the pedogological value of Hastert's coachin methods, if you don't want to get molested all you got to do is get better at wrasslin than coach is.
BingoBoingo: ^ Someone who would have used the contraption from that gif
BingoBoingo: In other news...
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/f042b5e45461a51ee142fdb9ac1cc12e/tumblr_mtc3hvHXsA1sgrc4wo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: absent that, ontological collapse, how is she going to EVEN EXIST if she can't turn her head just like so in respect to the scarf (as the girl in pic does).
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i think it's not exactly "don't be naked" but moreover part of the "head conception". you know, like streetwalkers / actresses "gotta put their face on". the conception of what a head looks like includes the scarf and that's that.
asciilifeform: and not because i have no way to find out, but because it does not stick to the teflon coating in my skullcase
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and notice that her otherwise very cute belly fat that avg singer/actress/newswoman aspirant would not be CAUGHT DEAD in doesn't bother her in the slighrwest, nevertheless the cheekbones and eye area has been photoshopped into dead marble.
mircea_popescu: (and then they'd get terribly insulted if you used it as a cum rag. wtf bitch, this is entrapment, you sucked it with a scarf on!)
mircea_popescu: shinohai i saw this a lot in egypt. girl would take everything off before the head piece.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the fact that we keep putting $bash in here is maybe not merely to be interpreted in the sense of "bot should ignore". maybe bot should execute.
asciilifeform: (current recordholder is either ben_vulpes or asciilifeform , i forget which)
mircea_popescu: otherwise i could have girl bounce tits on kbd for half an hour neh ?
mircea_popescu: what's the worst that can happen, and if it does, you know who to send a bill to.
mircea_popescu: trinque> jurov: I'll save that feature for drunkbot << actually, here's a thought, spin up an aws instance, have deedbot execute stuff in there.
mircea_popescu: in my head it carries the gossipname apparently.
mircea_popescu: they'll end up interoperating.
mircea_popescu: they know to take your stuff seriously and everyone else's less seriously
mircea_popescu: obviously once gossipd is an actual thing, the only way to talk to your boxen becomes gossipd.
asciilifeform: i'm not much enamoured of pgp format either.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck does this fails to be obvious. YES YOUR RSA KEY YOU USE FOR "SSH" MUST BE INTEROPERABLE WITH THE RSA KEY I USE TO FUCK YOUR MOTHER.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform linking ietf.org garbage surefire way to get my blood boiling. WHY THE FUCK IS IANA INVOLVED IN THIS. i need them to "create andmaointain a registry" like i need warts inside my bladder.
mircea_popescu: have the decency to say -----BEGIN RSA PUBLIC KEY----- uniformly and be done with it. or ECC or w/e the fuck it is, CrS
mircea_popescu: anyway. it would seem that by taking a ssh/ssh2 key, converting it to openssh format ($ssh-keygen -i -f old.pub > new.pub ) then replacing the headers/enders with correct values and adding a blank line after header/before comments you get a properly noted key.
mircea_popescu: dude it's almost as if these schmucks make the obfuscation deliberate. there should be ~no reason i have to use anything but my pgp key to ssh and vice-versa already
mircea_popescu: a) "made", as in the bs they usually make ; b) phuctor works better the more keys it has by design
asciilifeform: 4880 (earlier 2440) is the pgp format
asciilifeform: afaik there is no ready converter, it would have to be written.
mircea_popescu: jurov> if you remember, i sit on trove github keys <<< if you convert them it'd eat them
jurov: trinque: i suggest rather to ignore only stuff that does not begin by $[a-zA-Z]
asciilifeform: shinohai: lulzy. eat pistol at home - snore. eat at the office - nyooz, cameras, excitement!
jurov: mostly rsa, but also dsa, i can filter them
asciilifeform: jurov: these are rsa keys ?
shinohai: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2016/04/27/body-apple-campus/83598174/ <<< "I can't take working at Crapple ANOTHER DAY"
asciilifeform: you'd have to add the purported owner's name somehow
asciilifeform: and perhaps somebody did, and this is where the examples linked earlier came from.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu: no hoops, just the magic of selling gadget with nonupgradeable ssd
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you should see the hoops they jump through to get people saving their everything to icloud
ben_vulpes: best guess anyone had is that she plugged his phone into her computer one time and imported everything into iphoto and thence mme
asciilifeform: trick is for the rubbish sold next door to be moar worthless.
asciilifeform: 'sorry we're out of business, the drm server will be going down next week, sorry about yer loss, thx for the dough, bye'
mircea_popescu: ima have to file this as "the Apple standard" next time i have to come up with a term.
asciilifeform: that kinda shit is sop in the 'cloud' business
mircea_popescu: the move to icloud was pretty funny too.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apple "internet suite" pre getting lucky with the pods.
gribble: MobileMe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MobileMe>; iCloud: <https://www.icloud.com/>; MobileMe Control Panel for Windows - Apple: <https://support.apple.com/downloads/MobileMe_Control_Panel_for_Windows>
a111: Logged on 2016-04-27 19:20 hanbot: nubbins` is just this dude that amused you once with his bitcointalk drama antics two years ago and spent the interval trying to parlay it into as much $$$ as possible.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458698 << who bought what from nubs, other than us - the tshirts ?
mircea_popescu: aokthen
a111: Logged on 2013-08-15 15:48 mircea_popescu: http://www.humanleather.co.uk/humanleatherproducts.html
asciilifeform: i actually had recently a hardcover glossy printed of the mega-ada guide in ru
asciilifeform: i wanted artistic, with human leather!1111
mircea_popescu: how do you know books will even be legal by then
asciilifeform: who will edit the source down to b00k form!11
a111: Logged on 2016-04-27 16:01 mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the other end of the scale, trish whatshername, the oglaf chick, wouldn't commission. i dunno, i guess they must be rich in australia or w/e.
mircea_popescu: i guess the solution for the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458513 naive chicklet progresses to the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458505 burned out has-been artist : the addition of a "business mind" to look after her affairs / make sure she doesn't get ripped off.
hanbot: nubbins` is just this dude that amused you once with his bitcointalk drama antics two years ago and spent the interval trying to parlay it into as much $$$ as possible.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-27 15:48 mircea_popescu: pity the only illustrator went berserk last month, could have had a comic on your hands here.
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-27#1458499 << nubbins` was not an illustrator. his *wife* was the illustrator.
mircea_popescu: best ant trap is fucking the queen and organising ant defense perimeter around your house.
asciilifeform: sorta like the best ant traps are the ones where the ants come and eat all they like and it is delicious
asciilifeform: the trad response to this kind of situation is to sell opium
mircea_popescu: which are more valuable than them, collectively.
asciilifeform: the folks whom 'nobody needs for anything' ?
mircea_popescu: millenial is, give or take, the new chinese. if you recall the post-ww2 discussions of china.
mircea_popescu: the mexicans.
mircea_popescu: the question is why to allow the present 250mn idjits. should be deported to fucking namibia.
mircea_popescu: for instance i have nfi why the issue in the us pres election is whether to allow however many illegal aliens or w/e.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my current understanding is that it refers to a young, rather than old, ustard
mircea_popescu: however you dice it, by geolocation, age range, whatever, the fact remains there's a billion supernumerary on god's green earth.
mircea_popescu: and in other news : balconette bra entirely exposes the nipple. the shit us puritards are trying to sell as balconette is demi-cup at best.
BingoBoingo: There's really no non-qntra "independent media" that doesn't want to sell or suck up VC BJ buxx.
deedbot: [Qntra] Millennials, Apple Reject Capitalism Together - http://qntra.net/2016/04/millennials-apple-reject-capitalism-together/
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: The aspersation of all comikkk publishers is to sell to Disney or Warner Bros.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was thinking "could do with more nudity", there's really no reason her bra under the suspenders in that large sprawl is actually nipple covering rather than balconette style ; then "something i'm not allowed to mention in comics" ?! wtf all the censorsheep! is this like mainstream or something ? airs on nbc ?
mircea_popescu: hey ben_vulpes i thought you were into jet enjines, knew a thing or two... about say the process of making glass ? in a jet engine ? starting from sand ?
mircea_popescu: anyway. is and has been the vulva for ~15`000 years.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=minge | The minge is not the actual vagina, but the hair surrounding the area. On the labia majora and the pubic mound. Loose, shaggy hair that is not neatly trimmed, ...
mircea_popescu: (it's the devil.)
mircea_popescu: thanks for giving me the good bullets for the next cascadian smart, intelligent and blabla chick i run into.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lol "man of wealth and beer" ehehehe this should be an expression. then again in portland it prolly is.
mircea_popescu: meh, the notion that people anyone hates enough to put contracts out for are EVER alone
asciilifeform does not get the ref
mircea_popescu: you know, like reese whither-your-spoon-with-her-endless-chin plays in the original cruel intentions.
asciilifeform: my (admittedly limited) understanding is that 'obligatory faggotry' (where you gotta bend over for promotion or to get in the high crust etc) was always an undercurrent in anglo world
mircea_popescu: "socialism didn't ever fail - it was only badly implemented n times" "puritanism is not entirely and completely idiocy - o, no, was just not correctly applied. should have been applied to faggots only, then god would have delivered the mana shippment"
mircea_popescu: who even cared ? this is what boggles me, the "we'll save ustard-flavour puritanism by focusing on THIS nonsense".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: somehow it turned into a flag in the usian cultural disassembly warz.
mircea_popescu: seriously, i should make it my business what rando does with his penis ? wtf am i, the old guy side in the castellammarese war ?!