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(trilema) nubbins`: 00:08:39asciilifeform:thinking modern of pc bounce: was i
(trilema) nubbins`: 23:21:29nubbins`:on what's log.b-a? going with
(trilema) nubbins`: it rearranges 'em, still wrong
(trilema) nubbins`: now click a timestamp
(trilema) nubbins`: the order of the words is all fucked up
(trilema) nubbins`: what's going on with log.b-a?
(trilema) nubbins`: new regulation requires all cars to have under-the-nuts-view cameras by 2015
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't want my airbag to have the power to decide whether i'm allowed to alter photographs :(
(trilema) nubbins`: unfair as it is, c'est ca
(trilema) nubbins`: have a chew on the fact that rarely in history has "the best thing" ever ended up at the top of the pile purely on its own merits
(trilema) nubbins`: now, i've gotta get to the post office before this 30cm of freezing rain shows up
(trilema) nubbins`: about the same time you were dancing around straight answers, yep ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: this isn't the field of dreams -- you have to do more than build it for people to come
(trilema) nubbins`: something stuck in my craw, nothing personal
(trilema) nubbins`: almost as well as putting up a lonely blog post worked at fetching judges
(trilema) nubbins`: it's certainly worked so far ;p
(trilema) nubbins`: far, far from it
(trilema) nubbins`: fun fact, this is not the place where the best and brightest hang out
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu: because you get applications from -assets neckbeards & wizards who want to crawl up your bum
(trilema) nubbins`: well i mean "open call for judges" certainly isn't the way to find 'em
(trilema) nubbins`: chetty: well, we're both sidestepping the issue that nobody in btc space is nearly competent enough to serve as a judge of any sort
(trilema) nubbins`: heaven forbid you build a bridge
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, it's your dime
(trilema) nubbins`: ehhh, for someone who goes on about the sham fiat courts so much, i'm more than a bit surprised you gave up on the idea after the first bump in the road
(trilema) nubbins`: shame to let such a cute baby starve
(trilema) nubbins`: consider the statement suitably modified
(trilema) nubbins`: i'm not proposing i know all the alternatives, i'm simply proposing one alternative that avoids the pitfalls of the first failure
(trilema) nubbins`: is it where people dance around addressing an issue? :D
(trilema) nubbins`: square peg doesn't fit, so the hole is flawed
(trilema) nubbins`: man has a round hole, a square peg, and a round peg
(trilema) nubbins`: i have yet to see anything to the contrary aside from some hand-waving about absolutes and subjectivity
(trilema) nubbins`: sure, but the whole thing i was getting at is that the fee structure was flawed from the start, which is why the experiment failed
(trilema) nubbins`: no, YOU don't trust the court to fairly apportion the fees
(trilema) nubbins`: Hannibal ante portas!
(trilema) nubbins`: so he's risking a negative judgment, and this is the reason to pull the plug on the whole thing? O_O
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu: what's a defendant risking by participating? his trust rating? that's on the line whether he participates or not!
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, one more link then bed
(trilema) nubbins`: interesting
(trilema) nubbins`: seems impossibly foolhardy in retrospect, but they were simpler times
(trilema) nubbins`: bounce: generally historic courts did not impose a 10btc fee on the plaintiffs, only 9btc of which will be returned in the event of a win.
(trilema) nubbins`: ketchup and plastic film are two products where i always spend extra to get the name-brand stuff
(trilema) nubbins`: i wonder which one heinz is
(trilema) nubbins`: haven't tried ketchup from scratch yet ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: i've got pasta sauce from scratch figured out
(trilema) nubbins`: "i got a loan and paid it back" is just another way of saying "i'm not going to pay back the first loan that's big enough"
(trilema) nubbins`: so do something that'll make people trust you :P
(trilema) nubbins`: no, MisterE hinted at it tho
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't think borrowing and repaying is a particularly good way of building trust.
(trilema) nubbins`: it depends on who you plan on doing business with
(trilema) nubbins`: forum people don't give a fuck about otc ratings, and vice versa
(trilema) nubbins`: both is nice to have
(trilema) nubbins`: the20year1: if you ask people on irc, -otc. if you ask people on the forums, the forums.
(trilema) nubbins`: you got it
(trilema) nubbins`: as it should be
(trilema) nubbins`: at least if there's no fee to register a defence, he's got nothing to lose by participating
(trilema) nubbins`: having the defendant pay 10btc creates a strong disincentive to participate
(trilema) nubbins`: rota was a fine idea but just incorrectly structured from the start. it'd probably still be going if it was set up the way i've outlined ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't think there are any problems left ;D
(trilema) nubbins`: solving all of them at once, really
(trilema) nubbins`: tell me if people wouldn't be encouraged to solve their own problems rather than whining to btc dad
(trilema) nubbins`: now tell me if people would be bringing frivolous claims to a court set up like that.
(trilema) nubbins`: asshole wins: he gets 9btc refund. you win: you get 9btc payout.
(trilema) nubbins`: 1btc immediately goes to judges fund
(trilema) nubbins`: if some asshole sends 100btc to mpex for no reason and wants to rota it, he pays 10btc, you pay 0btc.
(trilema) nubbins`: the 1btc -- and nothing more -- always goes to the judge fund
(trilema) nubbins`: if defendant wins, he gets the 9btc.
(trilema) nubbins`: sure it will.
(trilema) nubbins`: they don't make shit until their contract is up
(trilema) nubbins`: you want the rota to solve your problems for you, it costs you 1btc.
(trilema) nubbins`: plaintiff wins, gets 9btc back.
(trilema) nubbins`: so you remove the defendant's fee, which solves the problem you identified where mpex gets bled dry, and you make 1btc of the plaintiff's fee non-refundable, which solves the payroll problem
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, that didn't work tho
(trilema) nubbins`: i can almost hear the gears turning from here... although it could just be the cat snoring ;(
(trilema) nubbins`: if you buy a can of coke here, you pay eight cents recycling deposit. you bring the empty can back, you get five cents.
(trilema) nubbins`: all the more reason to avoid frivolous claims, no?
(trilema) nubbins`: so the plaintiff's 10btc fee is refundable to 9btc if he wins.
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, unless that 30btc was supposed to come from the leftover 1btc of the losing party's money (30 cases per judge per year!), i can only imagine that you were privately funding the judges' salaries
(trilema) nubbins`: receiving btc IS a bonus.
(trilema) nubbins`: unavoidable pff, bitcoin is here to replace &c &c.
(trilema) nubbins`: well, how were you planning to pay the 30btc?
(trilema) nubbins`: anyway, you're arguing that salary doesn't work because pay-by-the-hour makes it seem like less of a chore
(trilema) nubbins`: exactly so
(trilema) nubbins`: he knows the workload involved when he signs up. once all judges are booked up, you have a backlog.
(trilema) nubbins`: say a judge has to take 30 cases a year or w/e for his 30btc
(trilema) nubbins`: but hey, USA has a thousand magistrate judges for a reason
(trilema) nubbins`: workload would be the obvious one
(trilema) nubbins`: toss a couple at me
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe the defendant doesn't have to pay a fee because we're not paying the judges per-case anymore
(trilema) nubbins`: i can't keep up with them, you tell me :D
(trilema) nubbins`: joke's on you, that doesn't damage my reputation
(trilema) nubbins`: now what? nothing
(trilema) nubbins`: suppose i call chetty a poopyhead and it turns out this damaged her reputation so badly that she lost a 100btc contract. she decides to sue me via rota, i decline.
(trilema) nubbins`: well, if you look at it that way, the rota was a solution in search of a problem
(trilema) nubbins`: THERE ISN'T ONE
(trilema) nubbins`: throw 10btc at it and hope ya get it back?!
(trilema) nubbins`: how else would you deal with a case you deemed frivolous?
(trilema) nubbins`: it couldn't lose if it declined to participate
(trilema) nubbins`: consider it suitably modified.
(trilema) nubbins`: i left out fees for brevity in my example
(trilema) nubbins`: no cost to it? if you lose, it's a 10btc cost
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu: in the post mortem example, all i see is: mpex receives 100btc, mpex returns 100btc, mpex pays judges 3btc each
(trilema) nubbins`: what's "e", effort?
(trilema) nubbins`: unless i'm missing something
(trilema) nubbins`: mircea_popescu well pretty hard to buy off judges if the judges don't get paid any extra for taking the case
(trilema) nubbins`: seems to me like if you remove the per-case judge payment and stick to the yearly sum, the rota would involve a whole lot less QQing
(trilema) nubbins`: who knows, maybe they couldn't afford a $99 samsung point-and-shoot because they spent every last dime on legitimate businessy things
(trilema) nubbins`: fuck-the-cops.biz!
(trilema) nubbins`: "let's use a cell phone camera for the photos for our big announcement"
(trilema) nubbins`: or, if you're in a rush, 1-855-one-bitc
(trilema) nubbins`: 1-855-one-bitcoin
(trilema) nubbins`_: too many commas, otherwise ok
(trilema) nubbins`_: heh.
(trilema) nubbins`_: ;;ud wtmi
(trilema) nubbins`_: fun fact, ROTA was an acronym for Rand of the Ayn
(trilema) nubbins`_: no use
(trilema) nubbins`_: peterl it got too real too quick
(trilema) nubbins`_: heh
(trilema) nubbins`_: obv a machine translation job
(trilema) nubbins`_: mircea_popescu: sea salt, black pepper, and lymph on popcorn?!
(trilema) nubbins`_: sea salt & black pepper on popcorn? sigh
(trilema) nubbins`_: danke, ihr englisch ist schwer zu verstehen ;(
(trilema) nubbins`_: in deutsche bitte!
(trilema) nubbins`_: en francais svp!
(trilema) nubbins`_: at a lower price?!
(trilema) nubbins`_: oh my god, Markus Weiler did a forced buyback of stock?
(trilema) nubbins`_: Call me on my birthday
(trilema) nubbins`_: ^
(trilema) nubbins`_: heh
(trilema) nubbins`_: Markus Weiler!
(trilema) nubbins`_: ah
(trilema) nubbins`_: mike_c that website looks like it cost about $5 to make
(trilema) nubbins`_ cackles loudly
(trilema) nubbins`_: sort of like thickasthieves and neobee?
(trilema) nubbins`_: ah
(trilema) nubbins`_: not exactly but you can still be prosecuted under the Analogue Act
(trilema) nubbins`_: i think his real name is Dot Coin
(trilema) nubbins`_: who's martin?
(trilema) nubbins`: Juelcf: hi
(trilema) nubbins`: dotcoin: WOW, you did a forced buyback at a loss?
(trilema) nubbins`: i don't think he has a lawyer
(trilema) nubbins`: don't panic, i'm only germanic
(trilema) nubbins`: aka body language
(trilema) nubbins`: pankkake is the language of love
(trilema) nubbins`: dotcoin, what is your native language? (just curious)
(trilema) nubbins`: how in the world is your lawyer going to send a letter to me :(
(trilema) nubbins`: says there he has a lawyer
(trilema) nubbins`: your lawyer was nice. you are not as nice as your lawyer.
(trilema) nubbins`: dotcoin we are not friends?
(trilema) nubbins`: i gave him all the info i had about pankkake
(trilema) nubbins`: your lawyer got in touch with me
(trilema) nubbins`: dotcoin! my friend!
(trilema) nubbins`: you're paying me?! :0
(trilema) nubbins`: not sure what this wiki is for
(trilema) nubbins`: ctrl-f, magazine
(trilema) nubbins` gestures towards log
(trilema) nubbins`: or lawyers on speed dial
(trilema) nubbins`: yeah, apparently i've been advised to figure out who the guy's lawyer is and present myself to him
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, to be a fly on the wall
(trilema) nubbins`: never trust a computer
(trilema) nubbins`: like sticking your peepee in a light socket
(trilema) nubbins`: ah, i forgot about those guys
(trilema) nubbins`: man, that stuart guy is really unpleasant
(trilema) nubbins`: granted, the game ended up being called eulora, so i guess it's moot anyway
(trilema) nubbins`: it's because nobody's ponying up their fuckin taxes
(trilema) nubbins`: what does that even mean D:
(trilema) nubbins`: <h1>You are ALL going to pay for your own stupidity and greed soon.</h1>
(trilema) nubbins`: best part:
(trilema) nubbins`: DEAR GOD SIR WE WILL ASSEMBLE A TASK FORCE IMMEDIATELY
(trilema) nubbins`: imagine going to any sort of authority with the claim "an anonymous frenchman is saying bad things about a company i've invested in, and he says he will shut up if you pay him 30 euros"
(trilema) nubbins`: if he was going to, he'd do it, rather than flapping his gums trying to scare a confession out of you
(trilema) nubbins`: plainly obvious at this point that the guy isn't going to be contacting anyone. ever.
(trilema) nubbins`: "And here is the body that will no doubt be in contact with you soon Pankkake"
(trilema) nubbins`: guy is literally falling apart at the seams
(trilema) nubbins`: "here's some more shit i read on the internet, ctrl-v"
(trilema) nubbins`: back-to-back freakout posts
(trilema) nubbins`: calling people spastics and retards ;(
(trilema) nubbins`: such negative language
(trilema) nubbins`: protip: you can taste the best coffees in the world whenever you want, for $5-15 per pound
(trilema) nubbins`: protip: coffee isn't magic, you're not guaranteed a good cup just because it came from location X or was processed via method Y
(trilema) nubbins`: i've seen pictures of freshly-shat civet coffee covered in intestinal worms
(trilema) nubbins`: civet coffee doesn't even taste particularly good
(trilema) nubbins`: animal abuse!
(trilema) nubbins`: it's actually fucked
(trilema) nubbins`: few puffs and they can function normally
(trilema) nubbins`: i've seen people with MS who seize so bad that they can't even communicate
(trilema) nubbins`: maybe her MS really is just that intense
(trilema) nubbins`: i honestly have no idea
(trilema) nubbins`: i just can't comprehend what wasteful method of preparation causes this poor woman to have to go through over a quarter pound every day of her life
(trilema) nubbins`: no doubt she boils it up to make tea or some such
(trilema) nubbins`: no, i don't think she's selling, it'd be too brazen. she wouldn't agree to be interviewed
(trilema) nubbins`: i can only hope she makes a tincture or something
(trilema) nubbins`: seriously, get a daily smoker to eat two grams and they'll spend the next ten hours seriously reconsidering their choice
(trilema) nubbins`: eating 100g in a day? you might as well induce a coma
(trilema) nubbins`: even worse
(trilema) nubbins`: that's a gram every ten minutes
(trilema) nubbins`: she ingests ONE HUNDRED GRAMS of marijuana.
(trilema) nubbins`: "Alison Myrden of Burlington, Ont., says it costs just pennies for her designated grower to produce the more than 100 grams of marijuana she needs each day to relieve symptoms of multiple sclerosis and trigeminal neuralgia, a disorder of the nervous system that causes especially intense discomfort."
(trilema) nubbins`: same with coffee!
(trilema) nubbins`: you light it on fire, all you taste is char
(trilema) nubbins`: vaporizing releases much more detectible flavor compounds
(trilema) nubbins`: ^ better source
(trilema) nubbins`: or the vaporizer! combustion is for rubes
(trilema) nubbins`: so patients who possess marijuana from the old program have been given a reprieve, and don't have to throw their old weed in the garbage just yet
(trilema) nubbins`: "i should freeze that" (3 days pass)
(trilema) nubbins`: i ground it and then left it in the fridge for like 5 days
(trilema) nubbins`: pork abuse
(trilema) nubbins`: i dislike wasting food
(trilema) nubbins`: i actually feel pretty bad about it
(trilema) nubbins`: i let four pounds of ground pork spoil :(
(trilema) nubbins`: slash i need money for my idea
(trilema) nubbins`: STOP OR I WILL TELL TUPPERWARE I MEAN THERMOS
(trilema) nubbins`: you may be asked... or TOLD
(trilema) nubbins`: i like the hint of empty threat
(trilema) nubbins`: ;;google frontist
(trilema) nubbins`: better that than a frontist :D
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