ben_vulpes: freeze 'em.
ben_vulpes needs a refresher in elementary statistics apparently
ben_vulpes: gold swans lol
ben_vulpes: i guess i'm asking if there's a known closed-form solution to this question.
ben_vulpes: jurov: please for to not be getting the pathological cases involved
ben_vulpes: rubio, trump, etc
ben_vulpes: there are n candidates, each with individual odds of winning a competition. how do i derive odds on the whole field from those binary outcomes?
ben_vulpes: unless i'm even wronger than normal that's not a clean mapping
ben_vulpes: take the odds on the republican election
ben_vulpes: beyond that mircea_popescu and hanbot are probably the experts and asciilifeform might know the maths
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c ^^
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, how does one calculate the odds of mutually-exclusive outcomes from binary odds on each individual outcome?
ben_vulpes: where's the "MPEx down for over a month in 2016" bet?
ben_vulpes: TheNewDeal: mircea_popescu's boxes are getting stolen and you're complaining about a bad trip?
ben_vulpes: ^^ extraneous '/' in those urls, mthreat kakobrekla
ben_vulpes: !s muh boxen
ben_vulpes: !s my servers
ben_vulpes: whatever did happen to bitcointa.lk
ben_vulpes: (and your other work)
ben_vulpes: how grows masamune?
ben_vulpes: alive, in gear, and enjoyable thank you
ben_vulpes: evening, gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: yes well, life in pursuit of 'kwalidee'
ben_vulpes: recent bug: "colors are weird on 5s"
ben_vulpes: 6 american regular, 6 small, 5, 5s, the whole gamut.
ben_vulpes: of course
ben_vulpes: yes! it got worse!
ben_vulpes: it had yet to be shitted up by the rubros.
ben_vulpes: ugh
ben_vulpes: 'pod's
ben_vulpes: can always rip pod out temporarily, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: there is a big user-friendly button: "run this on my ipnohe or in the simulat0r"
ben_vulpes: there isn't much of a separation of concerns in the ios toolchain.
ben_vulpes: include this 'pod' in your ios build, get HTTP calls on project compile.
ben_vulpes: symbols which it CAN ONLY GET ON COMPILE apparently.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yes you see it needs the debug symbols transmitted to some leprous SaaS thing for in-the-field device debugging
ben_vulpes: remind me to tell y'all about the ios build toolchain plugin that makes curl calls ON COMPILE
ben_vulpes: as if ctags were so hard to use.
ben_vulpes: write moar l1nez!
ben_vulpes does not even look at that bill any more, $ragetax simply not worthwhile
ben_vulpes: for only ten dollars per user per month
ben_vulpes: "show the non-technicals what the nerds are doing! with color!"
ben_vulpes: precisely.
ben_vulpes: "you want jumptodef? lolneckbeard"
ben_vulpes: because github is a thing sillyconvalley bizwrapper around a versoncontrolatroncumhoster for people who don't actually want to or know how to use computers
ben_vulpes: more software, more problems.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: how's your libressl node faring?
ben_vulpes: this is a pile of work jurov, wd
ben_vulpes: i've almost forgotten how painful it is. i can tell because i'm itching to muntz further.
ben_vulpes: i've been there too, jurov
ben_vulpes: well that's horrendous.
ben_vulpes: mhm.
ben_vulpes: just to be sure i'm on the same page, this 'hang' eventually ends when the node completely processes the block?
ben_vulpes: oh this is an explanation for said?
ben_vulpes: well i'm yes? ing about the black hole.
ben_vulpes: oh yes?
ben_vulpes: and critical_block and friends.
ben_vulpes: thanks, critical_section!
ben_vulpes: other than listening for new blocks in steady state in my experience.
ben_vulpes: a trb node doing much of anything at all is pretty slow to respond to local api requests.
ben_vulpes: victory of the rentiers.
ben_vulpes: !up renart
ben_vulpes: !up renart
ben_vulpes: !up renart
ben_vulpes: what a sight
ben_vulpes: lol asciilifeform as pet
ben_vulpes: c'est moi
ben_vulpes: !up renart
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-12-2015#1344551 << first there is a faux test to set the bar low
ben_vulpes sighs
ben_vulpes: jesus.
ben_vulpes: Yours,
ben_vulpes: If the notion appeals, let me know that you're game. It would be fantastic to get the git exercise wrapped up by Jan 1, and yourself into the office as soon as you can make it after your return from Indiana.
ben_vulpes: well with the team, and (should we extend an offer to transition from contractor to employee) ascend our internal talent ladder.
ben_vulpes: Should you demonstrate speed of self-education, willingness to reach out for support if you need it, and the ability and willingness to cultivate your own beautiful little commit-trees, we'll offer you a contracting position paying $30/hr. This rate affords us the luxury of budgeting training and study time for you. Our hope is that as you build familiarity with the ecosystems and projects, that you'll demonstrate productivity, mesh
ben_vulpes: Please reach out to me with any technical questions you have, any questions about how Git works or how to use it, or to review your progress and provide feedback. We take pairing and education seriously here, and are very happy to extend this support to you during this exercise.
ben_vulpes: We're looking for a really nice commit and merging history, so feel free to trash your working copies aggressively in pursuit of a nice finished product.
ben_vulpes: A huge part of the work that we do while building software is cultivating beautiful little trees of commits with Git. To that end, we want to resolve a concern on our end about getting you up to speed on our favorite version-controlatron (Git), and so we cooked up two exercises for you to work through over the next few weeks (see attached).
ben_vulpes: Thank you for stopping by and meeting the team—we had a blast and hope you did as well.
ben_vulpes: Jesse,
ben_vulpes off
ben_vulpes: !up morenoh149
ben_vulpes: buy a si fab in mod6's old age i imagine
ben_vulpes still has no idea what people think we're going to do with it
ben_vulpes: https://blockchain.info/tx/58262fa8436e0d35b73e43caef8c6e4d929507a3acb9d44e56b26b48251e30e8 << HODAMN
ben_vulpes: that is some specific diddling.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343716 << oh i think i see what's going on here
ben_vulpes: that's not an answer to the question
ben_vulpes: and who are you morenoh149?
ben_vulpes: and not a single one of them have i ever heard of.
ben_vulpes: bob mcelrath contributed to numerous open source projects in the bitcoin space, including Bitcoin Core.
ben_vulpes: bryan reyhani has been in the space since 2013 having handled seminal legal work that garnered widespread media coverage.
ben_vulpes: ivan brightly, is a blockchain subject matter expert having been involved as a core member of the bitcoin/blockchain community since 2012
ben_vulpes: dimitri nemirovsky, since 2013
ben_vulpes: daniel h gallancy, i mean to say
ben_vulpes: gallancy, since 2011
ben_vulpes: looks like a website from here
ben_vulpes: solidX being?
ben_vulpes: in nyc of all places?
ben_vulpes: you met people interested in finance, morenoh149?
ben_vulpes: lol ##javascript
ben_vulpes: lemme put it this way: it's hard to run a global short on the shartupconomy without finding takers on the long side.
ben_vulpes: you remember those tacks?
ben_vulpes: first rule of ddos is dont talk about its impact on trilemma
ben_vulpes: easy peasy
ben_vulpes: ;;8ball should i fry an egg for this hamncheese?
ben_vulpes off to duct tape more open sores together
ben_vulpes has fond memories of los cubanos en la grande manzana
ben_vulpes: uno minimo respeto por la serenissima
ben_vulpes would still attend, miserable multiday train rides notwithstanding
ben_vulpes: what, we're doing novelty slums nao?
ben_vulpes: grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-12-2015#1343159 << very much so, thread was on moving to cn, you expressed incredulity, no party this year
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bingoboingo many congratulations
ben_vulpes: whoa, no bingoboingo?!
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/u-s-navys-new-lcs-towed-to-port-after-breaking-down-off-virginia << how is gcaptain such a gold mine?
ben_vulpes: still, steady state behavior deserves at least a little look.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-12-2015#1342939 << this this this, a million times this
ben_vulpes: yes yes ascii_field
ben_vulpes: the question i bounced into #b-a is when it's acceptable for another node to relay a bastard block
ben_vulpes: okay so a lighter gas would be more likely to float up and mix with ambient o2 and ignite?
ben_vulpes: yes
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes labors under an american ME education - "just enough to be useful"
ben_vulpes: more carbons and hydrogens in the propane, ergo more flammable right?
ben_vulpes: is ethylene that much more flammable than, say, propane or 'natural' gas?
ben_vulpes: ahuea
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/lpg-tanker-navigator-europa-fire-houston-ship-channel/ << burn more alternative fuels!
ben_vulpes: much lulz in that c++fqa
ben_vulpes: y'all need better rad suits
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you gotta see the swole life in action
ben_vulpes: also what happened to your second b?
ben_vulpes: Bingoboingo: https://www.instagram.com/p/-SBwV1Mcr7/
ben_vulpes: i'm scared of qntra y2 too now
ben_vulpes: aye Bingoboingo i'll not shit on the coffee at bill's house
ben_vulpes: 'clever' fucking developers and their miserable abstraction naming schemes
ben_vulpes: class Base < Metal
ben_vulpes: laird pete_dushenski chased him off with the +1 blog of intimidation
ben_vulpes: rats
ben_vulpes: er
ben_vulpes: well no thats why you eat the mats when you find them
ben_vulpes: the latter, and has been for many years.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform has yet to march in an army so hungry it's drawing lots for the pots apparently
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: wut!?
ben_vulpes had to beat emacs into supporting ruby this week, company-mode served well
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever get company-mode working?
ben_vulpes: i'm also expecting he-who-knows-all-about-raising-children-without-ever-having-had-any to chime in
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: well yes, that was the nucleating input
ben_vulpes: the whole SIDS thing reeks of idiopathic "we don't know what's going on but here try these things so that you feel in control"
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski are you taking this "no infants sleeping on their bellies" thing seriously?
ben_vulpes still chuckling
ben_vulpes: http://www.newmanboston.org/RelId/806683/ISvars/default/IB_Economics_Students_Meet_with_MIT_Bitcoin_Club_President.htm << ahahahaha
ben_vulpes: whaack: get buschel in here?
ben_vulpes: sweet dreams, asciilifeform: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-openai/
ben_vulpes: tbqh every time i hear about what the wizards are up to it sounds like something from a parallel universe
ben_vulpes: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/1VFH9BV.txt
ben_vulpes: http://www.themorningnews.org/article/blues-on-wheels << "a writer becomes a carrier for the USPS out of a complete lack of options. what she discovers is that government jobs are actually miserable." ftfy
ben_vulpes: buenos carmen diaz
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 864000000/54
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/littoral-combat-ships-mine-hunting-drones-cant-find-mines-pentagon-finds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Gcaptain+%28gCaptain.com%29
ben_vulpes: "I will personally come out to SF and make this all public and have a showdown" << aha do what now i'm sorry i ohohohahaha
ben_vulpes: in 1970 boston
ben_vulpes: mominlol has a great story about having to be the big bad landlady so that the social workers could maintain the trust of her evictee
ben_vulpes: mod6: ack
ben_vulpes bbl
ben_vulpes: it's not great but hey you're working in the browser
ben_vulpes: that said, clojure's a good example of how even a shitty lisp is strong enough to wrap its tentacles around more or less the whole webshitstack and deliver a single cognitive environment for writing 'software' that stretches from the server to the browser
ben_vulpes would unlearn anything to be free of the shitstack
ben_vulpes: > one homogenous thing << in the same way that the cl compiler's available to user code? or some level higher?
ben_vulpes: von neumann.
ben_vulpes: (and yes i understand why you don't want to talk to anyone polluted by vn about this thing)
ben_vulpes: this is probably horrendously wrong, but i currently imagine some 'main' program entrypoint with subsections that indicate their parallelizability. is this entirely wrong or correctably wrong?
ben_vulpes: so there must be constraints on the programmering style in order for an arbitrary program to be arbitrarily parallelizable
ben_vulpes: on what?
ben_vulpes: so i take the little proggy i've written--would i need to do anything special to it in order to take advantage of more m^2 of compute fabric?
ben_vulpes: okay asciilifeform another strike at the fortress of incomprehensibility then
ben_vulpes: ^^ unrelated
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell Naphex yes yes but what about all of the much more difficult questions re statements and income and equity and depreciation and whatnot
ben_vulpes: so they'd have to be "pure" (to borrow a fp-ism) in order to serve the arbitrary parallelism definition?
ben_vulpes: okay, do function definitions make sense in this paradigm?
ben_vulpes: so it's arbitrarily parallelizable, right?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: hey boss, i keep meaning to ask you about the details of dataflow programming (vis a vis turning ascii files into computation), but i'm having trouble booking the like 3 hours of sit-down time it'd take to respond in a timely fashion
ben_vulpes: ;;google rails is a ghetto
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you never read the shaw lolz?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-12-2015#1339102 << listen when you can speak cogently about "the bayesian method" and articulate how "millions upon millions" [of lines of code] betrays your complete lack of understanding on the topic of control systems we can revisit this
ben_vulpes: did midnightmagic ever show up to disavow mircea_popescu?
ben_vulpes: not srs
ben_vulpes: that part's supposed to be entertaining
ben_vulpes: this week i'm actually preferring to hire "jr" people with broad programming experience (and varied backgrounds) for pressing into the ipnohe and andorp squads, theory being that broad experience with other humans and technologies trumps cheap labor and misguided enthusiasm
ben_vulpes: oh, lulzy
ben_vulpes: evening, gents.
ben_vulpes: FLEANODE
ben_vulpes: fucking
ben_vulpes: mother
ben_vulpes: adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?
ben_vulpes: then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks
ben_vulpes: "cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"
ben_vulpes: asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"
ben_vulpes: ah that
ben_vulpes: i see adlai
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << implies it does, jurov
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?
ben_vulpes: oh yes?
ben_vulpes: aha
ben_vulpes: > barring
ben_vulpes is struggling to parse
ben_vulpes: sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?
ben_vulpes reads next line
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339477 << anthro..pogenic?
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines
ben_vulpes: http://thetab.com/us/uconn/2015/12/07/exclusive-interview-artist-pissed-off-greek-life-1908 << victoria valentine actually went so far as to file a Fair Use doctrine appeal. doesn't appear that vimeo gives a shit, though.
ben_vulpes: what a buncha wimps.
ben_vulpes: also vimeo is a reprehensible operation who caves unconditionally to baseless dmca notices from SORORITIES
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mitch_callahan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTCGe4neOM found a backup
ben_vulpes: dear victoria valentine, she who studies/d film and made an entertaining video about cults and sororities, do drop me a line.
ben_vulpes: gamma phi beta and kappa delta are abusing the DMCA to take down videos that portray them in ways in which they do not like.
ben_vulpes: https://vimeo.com/147767325 << this is some epic horseshit
ben_vulpes not a fan but a prisoner
ben_vulpes: lynx?
ben_vulpes: what was it before?
ben_vulpes: welcome, mircea_popescu, to the new new new new web
ben_vulpes nods
ben_vulpes rolls eyes
ben_vulpes: everyone already has chrome, there is no "download".
ben_vulpes: ofc this buys also the risk of google ripping the sheets out from under one.
ben_vulpes: you can make the consumers "come to expect" anything, unless mgmt insists pigheadedly on cross-browser support chasing "lift" or "conversion" or some such, chrome should be adequate.
ben_vulpes: and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.
ben_vulpes: that has nothing to do with depreciation schedule.
ben_vulpes: also "software" should be depreciated on a goddamn 2 year schedule it rots so quickly. especially these single-page angular things; they're exceptionally more expensive to maintain as time goes on.
ben_vulpes: i thought Naphex wrote it
ben_vulpes: some hand-wavey value of the software?
ben_vulpes: !down whiterock
ben_vulpes: and why is that reported as an asset value increase
ben_vulpes: yeah also what is platform dev
ben_vulpes: aaa fractional months
ben_vulpes: 30% depreciation in server value over four months and some days?
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 7.16412/23.8804
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 23.8804/7.16412
ben_vulpes: like i said kakobrekla the 'board' can pay whatever in divs apparently
ben_vulpes: aok
ben_vulpes: but that has nothing to do with the topic
ben_vulpes: whiterock: find the topic with /topic
ben_vulpes: shareholder equity implies a previous investment round as well.
ben_vulpes: board can authorize divs of whatever size they want to?
ben_vulpes: too late, whiterock, mircea_popescu beat you to it.
ben_vulpes: see davout and x.eur