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BingoBoingo: !up scoopbot_revived
BingoBoingo: Oh shit scoopbot_revived
liquidassets: These Usian Disney chicks keep using 'love' like it's this thing one gives to another to substitute for what one lacks, or a tool for filling a void or getting what one wants. Maybe the word they're actually looking for is cock! Do you cock me? Well sure I do baby.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00047557 = 7.3476 BTC [+] {2}
ben_vulpes: http://thetab.com/us/uconn/2015/12/07/exclusive-interview-artist-pissed-off-greek-life-1908 << victoria valentine actually went so far as to file a Fair Use doctrine appeal. doesn't appear that vimeo gives a shit, though.
assbot: We spoke to the 'Cuse artist whose cult video pissed off Greek life ... ( http://bit.ly/1NhEddb )
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BingoBoingo: !up btcdrak
BingoBoingo: http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2015/12/04/shkrelis-chagas-maneuver << Also important to note Chagas is an emerging illness in the United States
assbot: Shkreli’s Chagas Maneuver | In the Pipeline ... ( http://bit.ly/1NaOM44 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00047509 = 7.3639 BTC [+]
adlai: huh, so tradeblock.com (dynamic web2.0++ horrorshow, be warned) flags bitfinex as "operating unreliably", butt has no problem giving okcasino over 50% weighing in their price index
assbot: Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1lO2G2y )
punkman: where's cazalla with the scoop
BingoBoingo: punkman: I just saw it. Writing up a note.
punkman: raid supposedly not related to bitcoin, but obvious what would happen to the real satoshi
punkman: maybe he's already in coke machine but doesn't remember teh keys
punkman: adlai, did you try any of the chinese exchanges yet?
adlai: mno
adlai: it's reassuring that we've not had another gox-scale gox since gox... yet
punkman: wait for it when price shoots up again
assbot: jwz: Cons conflict resolved at last ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSPuDz )
deedbot-: [Qntra] Craig Steven Wright Raided By Australian Police - http://qntra.net/2015/12/craig-steven-wright-raided-by-australian-police/
BingoBoingo: My first draft had the phrase "theft boners"
adlai: (from comments) "Please add a "+1" button to each topic post. It doesn't have to and probably shouldn't do anything except maybe flash once if you push it." << reminds of the crosswalk impatience vents
adlai: ransomware!
adlai: who knew it'd reach meatspace
BingoBoingo: I though ransomware started in meatspace
adlai tends to forget the years Before Coin
adlai: reasonable people do themselves a disservice by stooping to the language of simpletons
punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"
adlai: just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00047829 = 11.0963 BTC [+]
punkman: -morhpic, -genic , who cares, the first few letters look right
assbot: HAES: "My bloodwork is perfect" edition. | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7rX1 )
assbot: Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE7wde )
assbot: Now doctors give boy, 12, gastric band: Youngest ever British patient of extreme weight-loss surgery as experts declare child obesity IS parents' fault in new TV exposé  | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQRCh )
BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao
assbot: Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
assbot: dudetalking comments on Dr. Craig Steven Wright (alleged Satoshi, by Wired) on YouTube, from Bitcoin Investor Conference at Las Vegas ... ( http://bit.ly/1IE86I3 )
adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
adlai: aha so at 20:37 cowboy hat cites jgarzik for an idea of softforking turing-complete opcodes... i'd like to see miners lemming their way along with that soft fork
adlai wonders whether we'll first see a fork fail soft or hard
adlai: https://twitter.com/BitcoinBelle/status/674365484029059072 (panel moderator, seems to have been the bait that fished out the good doctor)
adlai: assbot choking on twitter? https://archive.is/oWetS
assbot: DI$RUPTIV3 on Twitter: "You know that moment when you discover that someone you thought worthy proves himself to not be? #WeighedAndMeasuredAndFailed" ... ( http://bit.ly/1IEadeR )
adlai: "as a recovering government bureaucrat, i'll refrain from commenting things i know nothing about" ed moy wins the panel
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mircea_popescu: <assbot> Australian police raid Sydney home of reported bitcoin creator << ahahaha WHAT\
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18485 @ 0.00049075 = 9.0715 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: punkman> "anthropomorphic global warming" << he means anthropogenic, but whatever. redditards.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> just phrase it as pinpointing the nature and inception of the anthropocene era, their eyes will glaze over and they'll back out of your territory instead of pretending to understand the issues <<< this is an exceptionally retarded approach to keeping idiots in check. it has a lengthy history of being deployed by "white" people ever before white people were invented, and it always failed. nevertheless, it's stil
mircea_popescu: l with us like the belief god may change your coke to pepsi : because it's easy, and because it caters to the specific lacks and infirmities of the "white" mind.
mircea_popescu: <assbot> Should we rename the blockchain Craigs List? : Bitcoin ... << pretty much the core of why redditards are so lulzy. THEY are going to RENAME things ? like what, their imaginary gf ? isis ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: pretty sure that was a joke
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> https://imgur.com/Tv3cNqc << lol Wright really looks like a plant nao <<< ahahaa now i remember that muppet. intel turned him up sometime this autumn, total lulzfest.
assbot: Blockchain Scale Tests by (alleged) Satoshi! 340 GB blocks, 568k transactions! - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSQW95 )
adlai: it doesn't keep them in check, the purpose is deflection
mircea_popescu: basically keiser in his youth.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony no, the "joke" is only there to make the idiocy pass.
mircea_popescu: kinda how adolescents the world over do their dating. "hey, wanna go out with me ? no ? oh, i was only joking. ha-ha."
mircea_popescu: funniest shit ever.
mircea_popescu: "Who filed the claim? Gamma Phi Beta and Kappa Delta, two large national organizations of sisterly love, whose houses and members were featured in the video. This was highly suspect."
mircea_popescu: yeah dude. totally fucking suspect, that you film on my premises without paying me and then don't get to benefit from the product. so suspect it almost makes me wonder why the fuck would i even bother owning shit.
adlai: heh, ed moy's closing words boil down to "usg has no future in bitcoin beyond hoping to tax it"
mircea_popescu: hey, that's exactly what the republic of china's government hopes in china are. har har. they'll tax the mainland off taiwan!"
adlai can't believe he watched the entire panel, but it has the perfect blend of pseudoscience, technobabble, and hopium
mircea_popescu: !up dbclk
punkman: film on my premises without paying me << looked like he just used segments from sororities' own videos
mircea_popescu just realised that what he should be doing with this time these days is interview isis derps.
mircea_popescu realised immediatelyt thereafter with some sadness that he can't actually be arsed to go into the anthill and impose sense upon it.
mircea_popescu sees the wisdom of asciilifeform now, to his chagrin.
mircea_popescu: punkman right ?
assbot: #Eulora log for Wednesday, 2015-12-09 ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAuIcX )
mircea_popescu: that sciencemag bit is hysterical tho. idiots who buy into the whole "ip is needed for to creativity with!" hook line and sinker are displeased when it turns out "ip only exists for people to arb the process, and make money out of the money intended to support creativity". but it never occurs to them what the problem is. because hey, why should scientists be any better at thinking than random five year old, "dog bit me
mircea_popescu: , dog's bad"
mircea_popescu: it's not like their own unsufferable personalities ever bite them. it's just these damned dogs everywhere all the time!
mircea_popescu: anyway, so the point of the "is random derp X ?" (no) article was so that reuters could run a piece saying "Australian police raided the Sydney home and office on Wednesday of a man named by Wired magazine as the probable creator of bitcoin and holder of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency, Reuters witnesses said."
mircea_popescu: which is great, i guess, if you're at that level of stupid, but otherwise would seem kinda damaging.
mircea_popescu: i guess reuters, wired & all correctly judge that there's absolutely no brand value left in their shit and so why worry.
mircea_popescu: in other news, would any of the brighter minds present explain the jwz piece to me ? i have the feeling he thinks he's being clever, but i lack the resources to comprehend the intricate minutia of his idiocy.
mircea_popescu: https://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/ << in his defense this is actually pretty lulzy. ESPECIALLY the microcode loop part.
assbot: jwz: MOST-POSITIVE-BIGNUM ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAwvih )
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assbot: Beatles 3000 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxqiz )
mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
assbot: Dreamsongs ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAxnDA )
mircea_popescu: "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" evaluates to p-bignum.
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mircea_popescu: http://www.sei.cmu.edu/splc2009/images/rgabriel.jpg << protip : almost no one outside of young women looks good smiling. STOP DOING IT. you're supposed to have a personality. have a fucking personality.
mircea_popescu: http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2011/12/22/astrophysics/ << "Doing the math we can conclude it will take 1.7 x 10^17 years for our sun to generate the same amount of energy as the dietary value of one cubic light year of cheese."
assbot: Astrophysics – blarg? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qvn3xl )
adlai: "College is a place where a professor's lecture notes go straight to a student's lecture notes without passing through the brains of either" - Samuel L Clemens
mircea_popescu: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-08-15-02-36 << in more random lulz, Cardinal Peter Turkson, president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace who helped draft the pope's June encyclical on global warming, said "If it gets to a stalemate or whatever, [...]". valley girls prevail.
assbot: News from The Associated Press ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvnFmm )
mircea_popescu: or whatever.
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adlai: http://roland.iwasno.net/lisp/datoura/datoura.html "set of data graphing lisp routines that generate postscript output. Generating postscript eliminates the need for X graphics libraries, but you must have a postscript viewer installed"
assbot: datoura_homepage ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAzoiZ )
adlai: great for printing afictionados and headless arsonists
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00047426 = 11.6194 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: https://angel.co/syndicates << in other news, every proprietary scamsystem/kickstarter out there will be sooner or later building a bug-ridden, half-baked, ad-hoc implementation of the common wot.
assbot: Syndicates - AngelList ... ( http://bit.ly/1TAAonn )
mircea_popescu: and pretend like they have no clue about it, too. "i just got this idea".
mircea_popescu: all romanian literature, +- 2 or 3 people in the entire history, consists of translations and imports passed off as original.
mircea_popescu: the crayfish, frog and pike story counts in romanian as "wholly original content by al donici", notwithstanding it's a plain as day translation of previous generation ru material.
mircea_popescu: all "rock" throuyghout the 60s-90s is simply us music set to [bad] localised lyrics. and contemporary "rap" is just about the same.
mircea_popescu: there's something very appealing to idiocy about this process of "invention" through kidnapping a princess and dragging her through the mud of one's orcish abode.
adlai: leaving your mark on the world, like a pissing mutt, rather than breathing life into a new one
mircea_popescu: what mark ? chagas is hardly a mark.
assbot: i made this little comic, hope you like it - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQhtFF )
mircea_popescu: then we wonder why cuckolding is the primary lifestyle of white pplz.
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mircea_popescu: http://25iq.com/2015/03/28/a-dozen-things-ive-learned-from-startup-l-jackson-about-venture-capital-investing-and-startups/ << quarterly review of the whole "start-up" gargle as amusing this quarter as the last, and the many before that.
assbot: A Dozen Things I’ve Learned from Startup L. Jackson About Venture Capital Investing and Startups | 25iq ... ( http://bit.ly/1TABnDY )
mircea_popescu: "here's the things we want you to think : a) that you need us ; b) that you shouldn't look out for yourself".
mircea_popescu: yeah, totally. what you want when doing a start-up is to "raise" a lot of money so you can pay the people who you "rose" it from rent so their real-estate sidelines do really well (in exactly the opposite fashion of what's preached here), while "not optimizing for your size of the pie".
mircea_popescu: sounds like exactly what they told the indians, too.
punkman: it does say 25 iq
mircea_popescu: which happens to be exactly what's happening, too. indians "had" land, the nature of which they failed to understand, but it was the funciar good for good reason back then.
mircea_popescu: these indians have time, the nature of which they also fail to understand, and well... it's the funciar good today.
mircea_popescu: oh right, and i forgot, "c) there's a shortage of you suckers [and really, alot of money you can give right back to us is "chasing" this deal. totally.]"
mircea_popescu: punkman so it does huh. except it's a weird thing, i've seen this lots in us-born slavegirls. woman could be well above 100 iq, think herself stupid, and indeed exhibit ~30-50 iq in selected fields.
mircea_popescu: so well selected for the convenience&perpetuation of the stupidity she comes from, one can hardly believe it's not deliberately trained.
mircea_popescu: but whatever, fight "patriarchy", not the incredibly unhealthy system that makes you be dumb in the few spots it handles you by so your smarts in the rest of the spectrum can be best sucked dry.
mircea_popescu: average ustard is, i would guess, a 110 to 115 iq college graduate whose 110 to 115 iq is composed of 150+ iq in beating himself up, 25 iq in establishing relationships and so on and so forth.
mircea_popescu: ethical idiocy, where ethical does not mean what esltards think it means, but merely "how to correctly live".
mircea_popescu: this is actually indicative of the very fucking problem : ethics means, how to live. such as for instance, how to drive a fucking airplane i nthe tax office if you live in the us. that's ethics. meanwhile the carefully-debilitated ustards actually think ethics means the exact opposite of what ethics means. to them ethics is "the ways to inconvenience your life".
mircea_popescu: iq 25 alright.
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Naphex: o/ morning
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deedbot-: [Trilema] Etica Mircea - http://trilema.com/2015/etica-mircea/
mircea_popescu: rfc btw ^
nubbins`: !seen mitch_callahan
nubbins` shrugs
jurov: ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --currency eur
gribble: Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 384.0, Best ask: 386.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 386.0, 24 hour volume: 166.94604927, 24 hour low: 361.0, 24 hour high: 387.0, 24 hour vwap: 378.32201248
jurov: !t m x.eur
assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00260363 / 0.00269875 / 0.00276803 (513 shares, 1.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00260363 / 0.00278366 / 0.00282306 (1652 shares, 4.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00260363 / 0.00308798 / 0.00343696 (6435 shares, 19.87 BTC)
jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00260363
gribble: 384.079151031
jurov: mkay
Naphex: ben_vulpes: i did write xotika and still do. I work with a graphic designer and frontend developer
Naphex: CoraCrisT handless the bussiness side, and press and recruiting and a bunch of other stuff
Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
Naphex: the api is meant to be exported for all the other clients which we will be developing
Naphex: like Android APPs for phones/tables and smarttv
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $1,000 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1234/bitcoin-to-top-1-000-before-jul-2016/#b13
assbot: PINE A64 is a $15, 'high-performance' take on the Raspberry Pi ... ( http://bit.ly/1M2ZcPb )
Naphex: ben_vulpes:and think what you will, constraining the operating environment to just chrome is a pretty sensible cost-reducing move.
Naphex: <<< spot on
Naphex: i only cover chrome for the most part, firefox got really left behind..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11561 @ 0.00048596 = 5.6182 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: ".gnupg/random_seed. A file used to preserve the state of the internal random pool." any clue what this thing is?
mircea_popescu: i discovered yest so did everyone, Naphex
mircea_popescu: apparently chrome is taking over.
mircea_popescu: punkman seed for the internal prng iirc
mircea_popescu: and in random eulora stuff, http://dianacoman.com/Eulora/map1.script << check out the awks!
punkman: but why would I want to preserve this
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60205 @ 0.00049078 = 29.5474 BTC [+] {2}
mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00049084 = 10.6512 BTC [+]
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:48:29; mircea_popescu: my guess is that it's more of a configuration thing than a preservation thing.
asciilifeform: gotta understand how, in a prng, the seed is the only genuine bit of entropy;
asciilifeform: and how, where the state consists of solely how long the thing has been churning, naturally it stows a turd
asciilifeform: sorta how leporidae (e.g., rabbit) stores his half-digested food in edible turdlets
asciilifeform: the design of gpg rng subsystem assumes extreme entropy-starvation. this is plain as daylight from 10 minutes of reading the src.
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:30:13; shinohai: http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/09/pine-a64-64-bit-4k-maker-board/ <<< nifty
asciilifeform: ' Oh, and it starts from just $15 and is available to "pre-order" via Kickstarter right now.'
asciilifeform: 'PINE A64 includes a quad-core ARM Cortex A53 1.2GHz processor, dual-core Mali 400 MP2 graphics..' << aaaaaand dingdingdingding we get to the requires-closed-driver-turd-just-to-run item 10 seconds in.
asciilifeform: just like the samsung arm 'chromebook' gathering dust in my bookcase
asciilifeform: will happily run 'linux'
asciilifeform: but not, of course, linux.
asciilifeform wondered for some time why anyone would market a gpu chipset named for african pisshole
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shinohai: not so nifty then
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deedbot-: [Trilema] Eulora as seen by Mircescu - http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-as-seen-by-mircescu/
assbot: Coffee spill: Thousands of coffee cans wash up in Indialantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1lurGwk )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339455 << brings to mind the 16th-17th. c. idiots who pushed themselves as 'great alchemists', ended up taken captive by some lord who wanted phr33333 g0ld, and eventually guzzled lead on the public scaffold for charlatanry
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nubbins`: ^ LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
nubbins`: says he hasn't even listened to it yet
nubbins` weeps with laughter
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thestringpuller: nubbins`: as they say CREAM
assbot: WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
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deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] In which Sam Biddle, Andy Cush, Andy Greenberg and Gwern Branwen fail to learn anything from the charred corpse of Leah McGrath Goodman, or how to tell if you’ve actually found Satoshi Nakamoto. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/09/in-which-sam-biddle-andy-cush-andy-greenberg-and-gwern-branwen-fail-to-learn-anything-from-the-charred-
adlai: ;;later tell pete_dushenski PGP signatures don't prove identities to people who don't trust the keys. repeated attempts to establish trust lines to satoshi's purported PGP key have failed
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: Satoshi's speshul because as alf says "has to move coins" to inspire faith in identity correspondence
adlai: the best and trust-minimalest "proof-of-satoshi" is the (unspendable!) genesis coinbase
adlai: he could ECDSA sign a message saying "any further coinbases were mined by impostors, frauds, and early adopters, or all three simultaneously"
adlai: but this is just my opinion, and i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation
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jurov: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35025814 some are picking up coffee cans, some the real stuff
assbot: Austria boy finds euro banknotes in Danube in Vienna - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nc1a3K )
jurov: "i'm amoral for reasons of mental retardation" orly?
adlai at least can still put two and two together
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assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 09:16:37; punkman: "anthropomorphic global warming"
ben_vulpes reads next line
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 09:44:52; adlai: moderator: "Oh so it can then be taxed as a currency and a commodity, and [Dr CSW] said, 'neither'" << clearly has not signed the pledge of allegiance yet
adlai subscribes to the pledge of "gimme eat"
adlai: and if that's lost on you... well there are some classics that were written after marie lost her head
adlai has paid more "tax" than he'll "owe" in the next ~year, barring persistent s.mpoe trader idiocy
ben_vulpes: sooo bot thinger's not making any money because dumb opponents?
adlai: so far i must say, the humans have been surprisingly efficient
ben_vulpes is struggling to parse
adlai: no, if opponents are too dumb, bot makes more money than i've paid tax to cover, and i pay some more tax.
ben_vulpes: > barring
adlai: but "the whole ['opponents' thing] is a false dichotomy"
ben_vulpes: oh yes?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339611 << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh?
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
adlai: positive-sum wonderlands do not involve carcass-treading; they are instead eaten in a feast, with portions rationed by participation; but "everybody has a share"
jurov: ben_vulpes: mp is fine with api that can be accessed by curl (but dunno if xotika is the case)
assbot: Logged on 14-11-2015 02:25:48; mircea_popescu: seriously, let the dumbass tech kids get away with this stupid shit ?
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adlai: ben_vulpes: see, that guy just got a better price. i wouldn't call him an opponent.
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 14:24:59; Naphex: ben_vulpes: xotika has a full rest-full API while the angular js is static html that just connects to the backends
ben_vulpes: i see adlai
adlai: pls reread cited sections of 'congolese trading window'
ben_vulpes: ah that
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assbot: How Dow Chemical Is Turning Sewage Into a Refreshing Drink - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPKOEs )
ben_vulpes: asked a potential hire "what do you know or believe that few people agree with you on"
ben_vulpes: "cork is the sustainable bottle-stopper"
adlai: lol plastics
adlai: sorry, 'plastics'
ben_vulpes: then followed a long explanation of the horseshit dow is putting into screw-top wine bottles and synthetic corks
ben_vulpes: adlai: out of curiosity what's the difference between 'plastic' and plastic?
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adlai: ;;search one word ben plastics
gribble: (search <word>) -- Searches for <word> in the current configuration variables.
adlai: ;;google one word ben plastics
gribble: The Graduate (1967) - Quotes - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061722/quotes>; The Graduate - Wikiquote: <https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Graduate>; The Graduate "One Word: Plastics" - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSxihhBzCjk>
adlai: ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer
adlai unearthed the "report" he wrote on the cork industry in 5th grade last night while throwing out old schoolwork
jurov: !up Casper-
nubbins`: yfw vexual is satoshi
mircea_popescu: amusingly, there's actually a trilema about that derp.
assbot: The nigger, a practical exercise. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiHJUu )
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/watch-tug-smashes-passenger-vessel-in-argentina << god bless the argentines << they're talented folk. just, not at anything that correlates with survival.
assbot: WATCH: Tug Smashes Passenger Vessel in Argentina - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/1lPqyD4 )
mircea_popescu: or with interesting.
mircea_popescu: !rated adlai
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mircea_popescu: !unrate adlai
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mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> << mircea_popescu hasn't made you make the "programmers spigot" plain-old-html view yet huh? << this is hate speech.
mircea_popescu: <adlai> ben_vulpes: tell your hopeful i'm stealing his cannswer << yeah, it's a very good can.
mircea_popescu: just add string.
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BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-12-2015#1339543 << r. gabriel was the 'worse is better' guy.
assbot: Logged on 09-12-2015 11:38:17; mircea_popescu: http://dreamsongs.com/ <<< how to be retarded. today, richard "i don't have a name and i was born without a face, here's some salmon background" gabriel.
ascii_field: i once tried to read his other shit, and barfed
ascii_field: 'poet'
mircea_popescu: you don't really like ANY of the classics lispers do you.
ascii_field: weinreb was ok before he went barmy and then died
ascii_field: david moon was ok because he said nothing at all
ascii_field: minsky wrote an entertaining b00k re: brain-as-multiorgan-system
mircea_popescu: also not clearly from this planetg.
mircea_popescu: minsky's probably the more advanced work on theoretical neurology to date.
ascii_field: john mccarthy was spiffy all around
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: now, granted that clinical neurology is still the vastly more important thing, but anyway.
BingoBoingo: Not rly.
BingoBoingo: theoretical neurology much more practical
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, it occurs to me looking through tucker max's sad history past decade (random guy on the internet, thinks "he invented a literary genus" because wrote some bland, unoriginal "debauchery stories" ; burned out of that [the tucker max makes a movie in hollywood shit was pretty lulzy] then moved on to... being an investor! burned out of that, now writing advice books on how to be the perfect mate for some woman
mircea_popescu: ) that he's very much a son of his country and a man of his age. there is still a very strong vein of "guide literature" from wild west in us fiction writing to this date.
mircea_popescu: it all really proceeds on the same great page of "i ain't got much lernin but i seen them buttes, here's how you too can get there!"
ascii_field: recognizably aha
mircea_popescu: very bizzare thing for civilised folk.
mircea_popescu: i mean... this is what the village idiot would be in ro
mircea_popescu: and ru for that matter.
mircea_popescu: but these are places that've been continuously inhabited for a while, where the space of possibilities has been a little more explored.
ascii_field: earlier link features a chinese fella on trial for supposedly pinching a priceless!11111 filesystem driver from ibm
mircea_popescu: fancy that. those exist ?
ascii_field: cloud!11111
ascii_field: and somehow a sting/entrapment op was in the mix, even
ascii_field: classic usg, recommended reading for aficionados strictly.
mircea_popescu: by now i suppose the prosecuting attorney will suspect the case may not seem like a "real" case w/o one.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that the premier indicator of not-real-case is exactly "sting!!11"
mircea_popescu: anywya, it bears pointing out, to round the "us www guide fiction" thread, that the donner party was the unfortunate result of that typically american literary genus, the wild west guide fiction.
mircea_popescu: not EXACTLY a tall tale, like the canadians got. crazier.
mircea_popescu: in the pathological sense of crazier.
assbot: Rafe Esquith, famous teacher, accused of sexual misconduct and inappropriate behavior in school by L.A. schools ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIdel )
BingoBoingo: "perhaps the most decorated elementary-school teacher in the country, the only K-12 educator ever to receive the National Medal of the Arts—has been accused of sexual misconduct in shocking documents released Tuesday by Los Angeles Unified School District."
mircea_popescu: this is like being accused of "wrecking" in the other-us.
mircea_popescu: you're guaranteed to get it, the higher accomplished you are. it correlates with your visibility because the point, from the niggers' perspective, is exactly to try and make it a thing by sticking it to people.
mircea_popescu: in this sense, if there's ANYONE that appears above, then that's someone above lenin. which they can't have. and so...
ascii_field: asked.
ascii_field: code’?”
ascii_field: replied.
ascii_field: “Yeah
ascii_field: [Proprietary
ascii_field: Softwarej
mircea_popescu: dem buffers.
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mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: ty for cutting the wire in time.
ascii_field: http://dpaste.com/2016J0Z.txt << the intended turdlet.
mircea_popescu: https://arenavc.com/2015/07/airbnb-my-1-billion-lesson/ << maybe interesting. since i'm going through all this idiocy, might as well.
assbot: Airbnb, My $1 Billion Lesson - by Paige Craig ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwIVbF )
assbot: Gender critical trans women: The apostates of the trans rights movement. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiMJbH )
mircea_popescu: yaya im sure.
mircea_popescu: the funny skit in that paige craig piece being that if paul graham and his merry band of spammers & conmen hadn't "invested", the thing would be worth tgoday what it it;'s been worth throughout : four digits in someone's shitty excel.
mircea_popescu: derp wants to think that hey, this is how i got bumped out of a great deal
assbot: "You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong." on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwJDpi )
mircea_popescu: "Airbnb has of course gone on to execute exceptionally well and become what it is today."
mircea_popescu: they executed... nothing.
mircea_popescu: or if you will, they executed what groupon executed : a maddof in the background, in this case named graham, scammed some old ladies and wrote the details in a notebook bearing this title
mircea_popescu: i suppose this matters to some, what the title is.
mircea_popescu: yet the guy's own conclusion, in his own terms ?
mircea_popescu: "Losing a deal like Airbnb can be painful. Great lessons came from the rejection at the very end, however. After getting the cold shoulder, I realized I needed to go out and build some valuable knowledge, needed a more robust network, and needed to craft my own brand as an investor.
mircea_popescu: When I found Airbnb I was a nobody in the investing world, but I spent the next year afterward traveling around the US meeting founders and investors. I attended and hosted several dozen events and I talked to just about everybody in tech I could. I read voraciously and learned as much as possible from one-on-one conversations. I put in a full year of hard work before I did my next deal."
mircea_popescu: 30 iq part of brain engaged.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure "building his brand as an investor" is going to do exactly what "building her brand as an relationship expert" did for tlp's fave gori lottlieb. or whatever it was.
mircea_popescu: it's not like yc will be displaced by b-a, it's like his derpy www-persona has a chance and all that.
mircea_popescu: wuuut evars.
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mircea_popescu: heh. check this shit out "Not all investors are created equal. The winners are persistently the same relatively small groups of investors time after time. Success not only has positive signaling effects in attracting the factors that drive success, but also talent enhancing effects for the venture capitalists themselves." << now why exactly would this be ? successful sicentists aren't "always the same small group time
mircea_popescu: after time". senators however are.
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mircea_popescu: poor assbot
shinohai: Here's some ass to cheer you up, assbot https://i.imgur.com/pk2nE7W.webm
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2010/vladimir-oane-iz-meleonare/#selection-81.0-85.15 << if gabriel radio feels like translating ancient pieces on "venture capital" a la roumaine.
assbot: Vladimir Oane iz Meleonare!!! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QwKOoD )
mircea_popescu: of course that shit exists. it's about as lulzy an affair as "romanian press" or whatever, "romanian secret services caught romanian isis agent"
ascii_field: 'soviet elephants are world's biggest elephants!111'
mircea_popescu: im sure there's also a paris, kentucky vc scene.
mircea_popescu: guys at the local bar, you know, watching shark tank on tv...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: mega-s33kr1t: not all usian software firms are in sv..
mircea_popescu: "La 27 de ani, Vladimir Oane a riscat şi a reuşit. În doi ani, a pus pe picioare o afacere prin care monitorizează diverse reţele şi oferă statistici marilor branduri. Contractele au început să curgă." <<< for the lulz. romanian "airbnb could buy all of russia" thing.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field do not take the name of the dwwweb in vane!
mircea_popescu: if it isn't in scamicon valley THEN ITS NOT REALLY TECHNOLOGY
ascii_field: aaaha.
mircea_popescu: if it were it'd spend its capital on aeron chairs.
ascii_field has never even been there as a tourist. oughta go some day.
mircea_popescu: like "real" technologies.
ascii_field: before it drowns.
mircea_popescu: from what i hear from the locals it used to be great
mircea_popescu: back before all the midwestern carrie-bradshaw-wannabes showed up
ascii_field: phun phakt: at the u.s. army derpery where i once worked, aerons were MANDATORY
mircea_popescu: i guess just like new york in the 50s
BingoBoingo hasn't been to Paris, Kentucky either
ascii_field: and i had a forbidden cloth-backed chair that had to be hidden during inspections
ascii_field: fire code, you see.
mircea_popescu: i thought aerons are thread or some shit
mircea_popescu: ;;google paris, kentucky
gribble: City of Paris - Home: <http://www.paris.ky.gov/>; Paris, Kentucky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris,_Kentucky>; Paris-Bourbon County Tourism: <http://www.pariskytourism.com/>
ascii_field: rubberized mesh
mircea_popescu: now you have, BingoBoingo
ascii_field turned down a few sv gigs recently
mircea_popescu: oh i see, it wouldn't be "real" top quality if it weren't shit.
ascii_field: it was actually ok, didn't fall apart like every chair i've ever owned at home
ascii_field: (in 3+ yrs of arse time)
ascii_field: and had reasonably good pneumatics, that didn't leak air
ascii_field: iirc they're about 800 usd.
ascii_field: sold by herman miller furniture co.
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
nubbins`: for those who are interested in matters of pedigree, i just sold a casascius coin and the buyer paid an additional 1btc to have the pgp chain of custody extended
nubbins`: i expect this to be the minimum going forward
ascii_field: nubbins`: do you remember the thread where i described how to trivially rape such a coin ?
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nubbins`: i recall a discussion in which it was posited that a device to read private key would be easy enough to make
nubbins`: the holo stickers for the 1btc silvers were too large for the space on the coin & tended to lift at the edges, making for very easy solvent insertion -- most stickers were then burned around the rim with a laser to make a fried-on messy ring that allowed the sticker to lay flatter and ostensibly would reveal tampering more easily (they still flaked, saw it with mine own)
ascii_field: and you don't even need to remove the sticker.
nubbins`: nope
ascii_field: or physically alter the thing, or the coin, in any way.
nubbins`: today, for the first time outside of casascius' blog, i see a photo of an un-lasered sticker in an auction on the gooftalk forum
nubbins`: shadows, even!
nubbins`: anyway, i figure counterfeits are a much more common issue going forward
nubbins`: i've only seen poor quality ones in the wild so far
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mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> (they still flaked, saw it with mine own) << there's a reason thermosensors are made out of two different materials stuck to each other. that reason is that this problem of geometric affixing is INCREDIBLY hard.
ascii_field: check out glass-to-metal bonds sometime
ascii_field: can spend a lifetime on just that.
ascii_field: (was a mega-issue in vacuum valve manufacture)
ascii_field: all of this will have to be re-discovered.
ascii_field: j. strong's 'methods of experimental physics' covers the basics; the whole b00k is somewhere w4r3z3d in the logz.
mircea_popescu: and temperature envelopes are always a thing
mircea_popescu: you won't ever have a "for all temperatures" bond.
mircea_popescu: (which is why the way to get chewing gum out of stuff is to deepfreeze the stuff)
ascii_field: nor will you, other than at some considerable expense and choice of constrained envelope - have a linear one.
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assbot: MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y39xl2 )
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: 'Twitter is a natural monopoly. Outrageous Chuck Johnson is still banned after all this time. They're showing why they need to be regulated.'
ascii_field: mega-l0l
ascii_field: it's a public utility now!1111
BingoBoingo: for srs
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what other is the purpose of facebook ?
BingoBoingo: I have no idea
mircea_popescu: sounds a lot like the story of the man upset that he went to the brothel, and they touched him in a sexually suggestive manner.
mircea_popescu: in other news, trilema used to have a fb and a twitter where some webapp (that no doubt is a great success) dumped the rss
mircea_popescu: i see the facebook feed's dead, but can't be arsed to look into it
mircea_popescu: about me "i found my first security holes in 1987" sooo... she's 30 ?
mircea_popescu: otherwise, who's chuck johnson and what's gotnews.com
BingoBoingo: He's the derp who is somewhat aligned with weev
assbot: MagicPoint presentation foils ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b3na )
BingoBoingo: Johnson has occasonal moments of lucidity, but otherwise seems to largely have been caught up in the otherside of USG propaganda machine
ascii_field: incidentally, how do folks actually pronounce 'airbnb' ?
ascii_field: i always say 'airbnob'
ascii_field: (as in door knob)
assbot: What Is Chuck Johnson, and Why? The Web’s Worst Journalist, Explained ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3b5vx )
mircea_popescu: still unsure why anyone'd give a shit. twitter ? wut ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field iirc they were something like averypoorlynamedbedandbreakfast.com originally
mircea_popescu: could perhaps just read it out.
mircea_popescu: "It’s not just Johnson’s attitude toward people of color who’ve been victimized by cops. Johnson in general likes to retaliate against certain individuals by publishing their personal information (a.k.a. doxxing). A recent example: After the New York Times published a copy of former Ferguson cop Darren Wilson’s marriage certificate, and named the street on which he used to live, Johnson published the home addre
mircea_popescu: sses—down to the house and apartment numbers—of the pair of reporters who authored the Times story. The headline read: “Why Can’t We Publish Addresses Of New York Times Reporters?”"
mircea_popescu: doubleplusbad.
mircea_popescu: how to get the leahs all bothered up - take their online anonimity away.
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ascii_field: i still don't get why they care
ascii_field: what happens when the address is posted? dump trucks full of shit show up ?
ascii_field: anyone with fiddybux can find out, e.g., where i live
mircea_popescu: it's a mental issue.
ascii_field: so far not even broken window.
mircea_popescu: they don't want to be what they are. that's not their real self.
mircea_popescu: you can readily verify this by, for instance, asking "rape" victim if she got wet during the events.
ascii_field: and 'real self' is... what? napoleon ?
mircea_popescu: the physical world BETRAYS THE SACRED DREAMS OF SOCIALISM
mircea_popescu: "Far more noteworthy than any of Johnson’s journalism stunts, however, is his intellectual pedigree.
mircea_popescu: What do you mean?
mircea_popescu: Johnson’s isn’t really a marginal or peripheral figure in mainstream conservatism"
mircea_popescu: this bit is golden. 26 yo derp is a figure, of any kind ?
mircea_popescu: what is this shit!
ascii_field: if he were 46 - different
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
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assbot: Eating disorders: Death of obese daughter spurs heartbroken parents to help another teenager ... ( http://bit.ly/1OROZeK )
BingoBoingo: 254 kilograms
mircea_popescu: some help.
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BingoBoingo: !up BashCo
BashCo: Thanks BingoBoingo. Hi folks.
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nubbins`: there's a guy selling one of Carl Mark Force IV's business cards
nubbins`: lewell
asciilifeform: h0ly relic ?
nubbins`: asciilifeform +1, it's even gilded.
nubbins`: this is almost as impressive as my genesis-block copy of the times
danielpbarron has a collection of business cards
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's card is neat
nubbins`: my card is neat
nubbins`: hand-printed on test print paper
nubbins`: each one yooneek!
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/a/G0SsJ << l0ls from the st00ge
assbot: Alleged Satoshi Twitter Posts - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3xc4 )
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nubbins`: fuckin wanker
nubbins`: we should try to get martin shkreli in here
asciilifeform: meanwhile, the power rangerz declare that signature checking is to be done away with. ( https://news.bitcoin.com/segregated-witness-concept-turning-point-bitcoin )
assbot: The Segregated Witness Concept: A 'Turning Point' for Bitcoin? - Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1HVFVnN )
asciilifeform: because...
asciilifeform: because shuddup terror15t
asciilifeform: or something.
thestringpuller: it's gonna be ugly
asciilifeform: imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob.
assbot: Echo of the Bunnymen: How AMD Won, Then Lost | Hackaday ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU425T )
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i wonder why everyone wants to spam the blockchain so badly
thestringpuller: this whole notion of 7 billion people transacting daily seems...fucktarded
asciilifeform: 'From 2003 until 2006, Intel paid $1 Billion to Dell in exchange not to ship any computers using CPUs made by AMD. Intel held OEMs ransom, encouraging them to only ship Intel CPUs by way of volume discounts and threatening OEMs with low-priority during CPU shortages. Intel engaged in false advertising, and misrepresenting benchmark results. '
thestringpuller: I've sent 3 transactions this year alone.
asciilifeform: ^ intel & microshit, one is nothing without the other
asciilifeform: 'Intel does much more than just silicon. Hidden inside their design centers are the keepers of x86, and this includes the people who write the compilers for x86 processors.' << while there is in fact an intel compiler, the article is here revealed as catastrophically braindamaged
asciilifeform: 'Permanently disabling AMD CPUs through compiler optimizations ensured AMD would not quickly retake this market share.' << wtf
asciilifeform: NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER
asciilifeform: except for a few fortranistas
BingoBoingo: Prolly Red Hat built their GCC with Intel compiler
thestringpuller: i didn't know anyone still used fortran
BingoBoingo: Fortran is great for WWW backends
thestringpuller: i thought you had to be 50 or older to use it
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it remains ubiquitous in the number-cruncher community
thestringpuller: yea if you have gray hair
nubbins`: you see some bizarre shit in industry
nubbins`: i worked at a company that does ~$1bn in annual revenue, all back-end is accessed via RPG IV
nubbins`: ("what's that?" exactly)
thestringpuller: IBM RPG....i haven't heard that in a loooong time.
nubbins`: still exists
nubbins`: the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it
asciilifeform: the closest thing i know of to a 'puzzle' esolang that is actually used in industry is...
assbot: A Case of the MUMPS - The Daily WTF ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU4yRn )
thestringpuller: this is the only esolang I've used: http://esolangs.org/wiki/chef
asciilifeform: 'The primary design goal MUMPS was to create code that, once written, can never be maintained by anyone ever again. The syntax is somewhat reminiscent of FORTRAN and SNOBOL (no, not the toilet cleaner), only much, much worse. Ironically, being inflicted with mumps (the disease) is much more pleasant that actually working with MUMPS (the language). A more apt name for the language certainly would have been EXPLOSIVE-DIARRHEA; I
asciilifeform: ’m sure they could have even worked SNOBOL (the language, or, heck, even the toilet cleaner) in there as well.'
asciilifeform: ^ not an entirely unfair description
asciilifeform: but, interestingly,
asciilifeform: around the time this article was written, i sat down and learned the language
asciilifeform: (for a potential gig that never went through)
asciilifeform: and found it to be quite a pleasant thing, in its own way
nubbins`: "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50."
asciilifeform: in the msdos-and-fuck-you way.
nubbins`: poor bryan
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41241 @ 0.00049391 = 20.3693 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7459 @ 0.00049414 = 3.6858 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> imbeciles are free to spawn altcoinz, and even to trade in their genuine coin for them, no prob. <<< kinda how socialism works.
mircea_popescu: revolutionize the things, end up trading your vaginal virginity for a pair of jeans
mircea_popescu: and teh anal, for some tp.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> NOBODY USES INTEL'S COMPILER << mediatards, whats they know.
asciilifeform: it was ridiculous the first time the thing popped up
asciilifeform: in, when... 2006 ?
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> the company literally had to get a local college to offer a course in it, and they sent an employee over to teach it << this is how it should work, actually. all the OTHER courses should be discontinued, pretty much.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform something like that
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> "OPERATORS: No precedence, executed left to right, parenthesize as desired. 2+3*10 yields 50." <<< imo this is the symptom of a badly written assembler or w/e the thing is.
asciilifeform: hey strict ll(1) parser
asciilifeform: simplicity!
mircea_popescu: except by the time you're done with paranthesizing it's no longer simple.
asciilifeform: what parenthesizing.
mircea_popescu: in fact the reason precedence even exists is because it's a schelling point for lazy.
asciilifeform: eat one by one.
mircea_popescu: well suppose i don't want 2+3*10 to yield 50
asciilifeform: rpn solves this.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
mircea_popescu: note that if they were sane they'd have said THAT.
mircea_popescu: the fact that they don't makes me... a little wary.
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 376.670799, vol: 19128.54633847 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 378.431, vol: 115.7018 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 381.402, vol: 13.52976722 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 386.30358, vol: 240304.83800000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 376.70777, vol: 10647.775584 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 384.89, vol: 172.91386498 | Volume-weighted last average: 385.23969499
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 414.79, vol: 19128.54633847 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 412.147, vol: 15552.7705 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 417.1, vol: 47160.63996846 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 420.0, vol: 13.52976722 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 425.374866, vol: 240300.28560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 412.7, vol: 289.42946321 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 423.76389, vol: 172.91386498 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 422.887495447
danielpbarron: !up nolanbugg
danielpbarron: !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.nolanbugg.9:10d6602305c3aa607c5f25a23d2e5d057b189cee4dc0cede030717ca67f1ae61
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 9 for nolanbugg with note: childhood friend, known for 15+ years
BingoBoingo: Welcome nolanbugg
BingoBoingo: Quite an introduction
nolanbugg: daniel insisted i join, it has been a long time since i have used irc
nolanbugg: but it is good company to be in
BingoBoingo: The only better time to join than now is the past.
nolanbugg: yea, i take a long time to do anything but i feel like i have a feel for some of the personalities here, but i have plenty of catching up to do with the logs
BingoBoingo: nolanbugg: !up yourself now
mod6: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 387589 | Current Difficulty: 7.910238090022598E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 389087 | Next Difficulty In: 1498 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 2 days, 4 hours, 33 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mod6: Hey, took one guy a whole day to figure out the recipes go in the mind slot :D << lol!
mod6: could have been longer even. can't remember. *blush*
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00049299 = 11.4127 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7840 @ 0.00049296 = 3.8648 BTC [-]
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