asciilifeform: i suspect a simpler http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-18#1615386 mechanism
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: was martin in fact a diplomaed 'techmoron' ? or simply bureaucrat
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i vaguely suspect that at this point, the other haroldmartins, entirely aware of the yellow dots, have burned their piles
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: admits gradations. e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/wp-content/fb/godsurge.png , might appear at nuremberg. martin's pile , went with him to crematorium, and i can't picture how this was surprise to him
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i.e. d00d was piling it up to show at nuremberg ? conceivable
asciilifeform always pictured mp_en_viaje with reusable hand-sewn sheepskin , like henry viii had
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol, didja find an unexploded ordnance in the blueberry steak ?
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: consider mircea_popescu's [method][http://btcbase.org/log/2016-07-03#1496469] of spam control (his is wpistic, but can be ported); or asciilifeform's [somewhat simpler pill][http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-30#1906150].
asciilifeform would've asked 'why do they need to pay money and come to club to sit an' watch' but i recall mp_en_viaje [answered this puzzler][http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-20#1914729] earlier
asciilifeform: hrm i suppose, mp_en_viaje in phototour posted a price tag, fiddyeurobux for a mp_en_viaje-grade breakfast, notbad
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: nao i'm curious -- is hungary some sorta elephant graveyard where these go to die..?
asciilifeform: howdja know it was him ? or did he find mp_en_viaje by beard
asciilifeform: next mp_en_viaje will find that gavin et al are there also...
asciilifeform: ^ compleet with text chronicle
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: which 1 ? there were 2-3 iirc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'west reich' 100yrs ahead in zombiefication tech vs. 'east', evidently. 'soy salami' there, undreamed of in sovok, and 0 'mass' complaint, importers of genuine food from e.g. europistan struggle , rather than make mega-bank.
asciilifeform: i suspect that mp_en_viaje is right, and even the 'ai beautifier' thing is redundant, all the machine needs to do is to work like the mirror in brothers grimm, whisper 'you are the fairest of them all' to the sow, will suffice.
asciilifeform suspects that they took out the chimptron after certain users complained that the 'before' and 'after' pics were not sufficiently distinct...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the inevitable association in my head re subj , is how in national museum of natural history in washington, there was at one point a coin-operated thing that 'see yourself as chimpanzee' .
asciilifeform: to take simply 1 example, asciilifeform's mains socket even nao is connected to... sovok pu, sold at fire sale price in 1990s to usg
asciilifeform: goodnight mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: this thrd is imho incomplete without a quote from some 16th c italian comedy that asciilifeform never heard of but mp_en_viaje happens to have translated !1
asciilifeform: aa in this context 'market' as an artificial object, of civilized life, like 'plumbing', vs. merely the set of all possible interactions (incl. 'dumping', burning down competitor, etc. ) ?
asciilifeform: also i entirely believe mp_en_viaje that it dun work in markets. predictable, so loses.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc the trad term ( for what 'doesn't work in used cars biz' ) is not, is 'robust'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: helps to remember that i've never seen actual troo money, except in microscopic quantities, and even this only since btc introduced
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'wtf, i solved apparent given equation, and this fella goes off re 'cuntlogics'..' != 'slide'
asciilifeform: this is when i admit that i dun think i have with what to disagree with mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: right. so per this extended model, even tho on paper broker 'breaks even', he is still chump, as e.g. lives in reich where usg can steal his brick castle on a whim
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: given example was specifically a ratio of 'cost' / 'budget' tho
asciilifeform: trinque: i once attended a gathering of 'writers'. one unusually introspective type uttered phrase 'do you all understand that we're competing for each other's beer money'
asciilifeform: i imagine all of the holes look quite similar from mp_en_viaje's olympus tho -- sorta like stones on the ground, mountains to ant, all look ~same from man's height
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: guess what else they taught in ameri-hs (e.g. 'if you put in 100 $ , yr later can have 105' , and other meanwhile-retracted 'communism by 1980' promiseisms )
asciilifeform: mp described in detail this subj, better than i could ever hope to
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-17#1914370 << pretty great piece. hand-cranked verification of mp's gpg1.4.10 tarball deed .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it aint impossible, e.g. asciilifeform manages.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall coupla yrs ago an nsa flunkie reportedly ate a bullet in afghan. was novel enuff that was newsworthy.
asciilifeform: upstack : asciilifeform at one time learned that nsa has an unofficial exemption from 'discrimination laws', they dun hire ru folx -- but china a+++ a-ok
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: entertainingly, some yrs ago i had to write a 'decompiler' for these, to pull out ie 'sploits etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: half MB is even 'slim' by modern standards, for these.
asciilifeform: the lulzy part was that snailmail, from ft meade, complete with eagles etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: via cloudfart or how
asciilifeform can't speak re the complexity, did not use intensively
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's a pretty standard, as they go, 'indian code'
asciilifeform: nicoleci, mp_en_viaje : i have possible piece for this puzzler : asciilifeform's old notes suggest that this particular heathen pit structures text for censors as 'patch' deltas
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje wrote a pretty good sifter for it, so if lemon had juice yet, would presumably still give juice
asciilifeform wonders whether fatlife yet 'replaced' mp_en_viaje with that old fart retired mayor d00d or who was it
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i actually used it briefly , many yrs ago, at the time it was just this tool for workers to drop in their cv and auto-spam it to employers etc
asciilifeform: also wtf re the randomly dropping terrorist paragraph. normally they simply delete whole page
asciilifeform: observe, on fg www, the series of 'and now x tested' links. the buyers, did not simply 'believe' that unit worx, they took the time to verify.
asciilifeform: ( and iirc so can mp_en_viaje )
asciilifeform: ( 'important' was... his driver. who was there simply in case he gets tired. )
asciilifeform: the risk from using one built by another pair of hands, pretty much always makes it seem a losing proposition to purchase a walletron of any kind whatsoever. hence why the market for'em is fulla rubbish, built for chumps.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: i'll be the very last to say 'how to monetize'. the subj is re the simple matter of with what to construct machine so that you can even ~have~ money, should you come up with from where to get.
asciilifeform: depends where -- over here in east usa, junkyard nowadays contains 2-3 y.o. comps.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: you will find interesting that it is possible to build computer to last 100+ yrs.
asciilifeform: dun even need computer, really
asciilifeform: why generate tx to validate addr ? it's a pretty simple algo, with checksum
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2 ^ is true. but slow. e.g. mp_en_viaje and asciilifeform baked a trng in '16; one might imagine erry single serious btc user would've bought. but guess what.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aint that an infamous crap artist ? i fughet
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: where was this
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: i have cnc mill (for metal, not only wood, albeit slow) right here, made from scavenged materials + 1970s 'sherline'. it's a weekend's work. i.e. pretty hard to make profit selling'em, china nao ships complete kits.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: right, it's what he did with the bag of moola. immediately politruks appeared to 'help' him 'see light' etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pg openly admitted it was 'yahoo'-powered peripheral scam.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: did, but wasn't what he was known for, was still trade seekrit. was known for 2 schoolbooks on commonlisp.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: even did have, circa 2008 or so
asciilifeform: aa there we go, ...273 was his primary (pgpdump for soemreason doesn't dump fphash of primary)
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: also plz paste the eggog output from attempt
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: hey, dun have to go far for this, e.g. asciilifeform earns bread these days by 'which 11 pages of microshit docs add up to the truth re $kernelknob' etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in the case of subkeyism, he oughta then see a diff b/w the dumps, as i understand
asciilifeform: this sorta underscores mp_en_viaje's point -- if you have automation in the loop, it had better work and actually save time
asciilifeform: possibly even worse ^ , btw, than mp_en_viaje's item
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'ma guess he's trying to 'airgap' but with no slave typists
asciilifeform: 'Nicholas Piano: It needs to be something that proves someone's worth beyond a doubt. Imagine we treated programmer failure like the death of a patient in surgery. Think of a system tested so completely that every possible use case has been accounted for. Perhaps an air traffic control simulation ...'
asciilifeform: where 'homedir' in /tmp etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re gpg, seems like he reimplemented the mechanism in orig v
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: hand mutilation from misconfigged kbd, typically
asciilifeform: loox like stjohn_piano_2 built/attempted to build a 'display these pgp-signed .txt with html sugar' mechanism ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: consider diff b/w 'im'a go pirate on the high seas, take spanish gold' vs 'i'ma pray for gold to fall from sky', is the contemplated diff.
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: diff the pgpdump -i output of the two pubkeys.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: robber getting run over by train because he thought could hop on, 'makes sense' . terry davis getting run over cuz he thought train was an angel coming to take him to st peter's gate, doesn't rise even to the level, it requires being a terry davis to grasp
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i can grasp the 'old world socialism', where http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-25#1904728 ; i dun really grasp ~these~, they dun even make surface sense to the uninitated
asciilifeform: stjohn_piano_2: plz compare output of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-16#1913651 w/ your key
asciilifeform: http://edgecase.net/articles/offline_installation_of_a_c_compiler_on_centos_69_minimal_on_kalkin << tried 'cuntoo' yet ?
asciilifeform: !!rate stjohn_piano_2 1 temp voice / new blood
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether mp_en_viaje ever said anyffin re how it fell of his list. ( if above theory correct, mp_en_viaje could even nao have himself crowned king there etc )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: what makesya think 'irreplaceable' ? there's always collaborators to be had
asciilifeform: in usa, 'future of policing' is prolly http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-26#1072977 ; in usg periphery like nz, i expect soon enuff they'll just drop 500kg bomb from air and write down 'today neutralized terrorist compound' etc
asciilifeform: seems like nz is 'behind the curve' vs usa. here they simply show up an' machinegun yer cardboard house from 2 sides and ~then~ search
asciilifeform: i suspect mp_en_viaje's term settings but cannot immediately guess wtf
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: ~this~ one displays tho.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc he's still alive even nao
asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform's snailmailbox has to be emptied daily of superbly colour-calibrated spamola liquishit.
asciilifeform: also supposedly monopoly on proggy that eats 'raw' inputs from various heavy (40+mpixel) industrial camera
asciilifeform: ^ lulzily, for coupla yrs nao, they dun even ~sell~ the proggies, but moved to 'subscription' chumpatron
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform's serv log fwiw loox ~exactly like this.
asciilifeform: principal competition is of course 'ordinary sram + battery'. but batteries gotta be kept fresh, and misbehave at temperature extremes, occupy space, catch fire, etc
asciilifeform: ^ in related noose, reportedly 'everspin', the 'magnetic ram' people , is tanking. which on one hand is sad, 'eeprom that dun wear out' is imho neat and moar or less required for sane computer . but on other hand, perhaps usg.patentholder co. gotta die for the thing to become economically viable
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: are you thinking of planting cuntoo ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: thing absolutely is bootable clean. is from prior to the madness.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: any idea if these people made a multi-socket board ?
asciilifeform: imho -- significant find, ty mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform: i'ma get meself a sample or 2
asciilifeform: supports, imho, mp_en_viaje's thesis where 'tallest wall is in head'
asciilifeform: nly 1 company~. others -- not walked.
asciilifeform: briefly upstack to http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913412 : i find it interesting that the 'vhs' cultural programming is apparently needed, to lubricate the chumpatron. in e.g. 1950s, it was considerably easier to walk out of sovok than '60-70s ( e.g. unguarded border with iran, buncha places ) and for instance in '56 a company of tank men traded their tanks to the hungarians for a map to 'which way is austria', and walked. but ~o
asciilifeform: not much in the way of naked docs is worth 'immediately' anything ( as mp_en_viaje often pointed out ), 'no scripts are new'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-14#1913409 << meant, is ~design~ defect, rather than ~manufacture~ (i.e. you can't get a nonhammerable ddr4 stick by buying 100 samples and filtering)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i have ddr3 boxen at piz, BUT they're ecctronic.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not 'officially' iirc. but the boojum is well-documented, erryone can decide for himself
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i dislike ddr3 (3, 4, +) for safety-critical applications -- 'rowhammer' . but i have nfi for what mp_en_viaje uses these, then again.
asciilifeform: 'cadr' is quite well documented, but not particularly informative re 'ivory', which built after more than decade of refinement/simplification
asciilifeform: amberglint: for microscopy, difficulty is in decap ( can't afford to lose samples to botched decap ) and then delayer ( i expect will need at least 1 shot with stripped metal , after surface shot , to get useful output )
asciilifeform: it'll need, i expect, fpga + usb3 chip (cuz 200MB/sec to properly sample all the pins)
asciilifeform: i have 5 samples of 'ivory' (incl. the 1 installed in working machine) , still not enuff to throw around without thinking
asciilifeform: as written, noshit, it means 0. but when idiot jumps from cliff 'because will fly like daedalus', still has a physical meaning : splat
asciilifeform: diana_coman: didja read mp_en_viaje's link ? where poor schmuck specifically emits sausageisms e.g. 'better future for children' etc
asciilifeform: 'sausage emigre' is stock term from rusphere , there folx chronically cited '50 types of sausage' as 'first impressions from new york' etc
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i dun think i can be surprised what people can be convinced to eat, 'without complaint', after 25+ yrs in mcdonaldistan
asciilifeform: really i'd like to hear what mp_en_viaje thinks re subj, and take as dispositive.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if you can't resist to 'pump' the heat gradient, i'd even prefer if you bid on auction yerself and milked 'bicyclist' w/ own steam.
asciilifeform: at some pt ('in peacetime!'(tm)) asciilifeform is gonna have to crib mp_en_viaje's 'recent comments' wp feature.
asciilifeform: in particular interesting detail , being that 'capacitance meter' may still show in-spec value for dead unit (which perished in such a way that only ~impedance~ has increased)
asciilifeform: 'tis hilarious, this seq. of amputations. the capitalists, terrified of urban unionized workers, abolished... industry, and work. ( replaced with 'office plankton' system. ) result is present-day usgistan.
asciilifeform: the notion of 'members only' tram, is so preposterous, that i suspect outright sabotage, a la 1960s usa (where various skulduggery resulted in the complete disappearance of the tram -- and in certain places , of ~all public transport -- to prop up 'auto industry' )
asciilifeform: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-531.0-531.297 << holyfuq. asciilifeform was leaving, thought 'hm, oughta have tried the trams, are they same as on home planet -- oughta be, given as all of our trams were imported from ro' but apparently nodice
asciilifeform: elementarily could not have 'feedlot' without this , would simply turn into gangrenous mass in short time
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha BingoBoingo already answr'd. they're using bottled gas
asciilifeform: nobody who has to pay to upkeep a shop, can price-compete with lulazon, lulzbay, etc
asciilifeform: i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912999 << mp_en_viaje i have to plead 'guilty' to this. asciilifeform when younger many times 'went for broke', pawned shirt, and -- lost shirt. so has roughly same pov as bedouin has re water.
asciilifeform: impossible to tell w/out retaining a skilled orcologist
asciilifeform: although, next to that hotel i was in ( same 1 mp_en_viaje held c2 in ) , gigantic and apparently abandoned glass box bldg was having its roof methodically cut by scavengers with torches, quietly loaded each piece on truck and vanished before nightfall
asciilifeform: gypsy can do amazing things. iirc mp_en_viaje described, how the half-built palaces asciilifeform saw in timis, were built by'em
asciilifeform: 'stay a while.. stay FOREVER!' -- 'mission impossible' game intro on c64
asciilifeform: as often happens, mp_en_viaje suspects correctly.
asciilifeform: meanwhile , in ru heathendom , (translation mine) : 'there is a sign that distinguishes a troo programmer from an impostor. a true programmer , before going to bed, will put on his nightstand two glasses. one with water -- in case in the night he becomes thirsty. and one empty -- in case not.'
asciilifeform: example shots : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2913#selection-298.1-362.3 << via stock lens with 2 chinese extender rings ('miser's macro lens')
asciilifeform: (just like the 'mp cam' )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912942 << i had one at 1 pt, sold it for the described reason and bought what is nao known as 'mp cam' in 2011. but earlier this yr retired it in favour of a recently introduced thing that is sorta in between the two, has removable lens but around half the mass of typical dslr.
asciilifeform: billymg: it's very simple -- money. i work for living, and have never done it anywhere other than in the reich, 'meatwot' is there.
asciilifeform: ( before mp_en_viaje asks -- it sadly aint practical to take a unit off an existing board and reuse. they're all bga . )
asciilifeform: there's nuffin physically impossible about baking an arm (or mips etc) board that eats socketed ecc ram. but there seems to be a de-facto usg fatwa against'em, or sumthing
asciilifeform: use lint-free tampons on stick, the same kind as for rifles
asciilifeform: ( and really, as observed by mp_en_viaje in prev. thrd, 'bus width bound' )
asciilifeform: even mp_en_viaje's 'fx' i suspect.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pre-barrett ffa , when rsaing, spends most of wallclock time in fz_mod , is all. which dun multiply. in 14+ , i fully expect 2-3x boost from asmism (possibly higher, with massage w/ magnifying glass for pipelineism etc )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: bvt's asmism is correct near as i can tell ( i have not walked with magnifying glass. ) the 1 gotcha is that the actual win from'em aint measurable until bolt'em onto ch14b+ ( where knuth's division is no longer the bulk of the cpu load )
asciilifeform: ( ... or was this the 'partidul mp' hq thing..? )
asciilifeform: and yea can readily see mp_en_viaje's pt re the serfs
asciilifeform: complete with serfs.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yes and it's reason # 9000 why asciilifeform wants out
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: robovac sweeps 100 m^2 / hr or so.
asciilifeform: the chinese (fraudulently stamped 'taiyo yuden') caps, rot even when switched off.
asciilifeform: ( for comparison: sovok electrolytics still goin' strong worldwide. and prolly will for next century. )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not only that period. i have strong suspicion that 'capacitor plague' never trooly ended, or will
asciilifeform: i think mp's shed in ro was bigger.
asciilifeform stopped by another 'embassy expo', this time europistan. estonia pitched its 'startup incubator' scamolas. latvia had a d00d on a podium bragging about 'russian stooges cannot steal ~our~ election, won't even try any moar, we can see right through their lies, dunno why usa couldnt' etc . romania handed out samples of cheese, which tasted like cardboard, i did not taste anything in actual romania that resembled this rubbish. gre
asciilifeform: prolly when they see mp_en_viaje they think 'he pumps, somewhere else'
asciilifeform: i have nfi whether this is how 'pumpers' think (possibly word 'think' isn't even applicable) but can't say it is impossible either
asciilifeform: lol what did they expect mp_en_viaje to do.. stand and clap ??
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: which doods, why offended ..?
asciilifeform: aha, i thought this was re the public sort, where you buy a ticket an' pump etc
asciilifeform: i always thought it were so that 'pumpers' could show off their muscle to pedestrians
asciilifeform: ( it is rather impractical to take normal auto to washington, to park it there costs such that it is cheaper to go to town in limousine and back )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: over here, 100% of uberists are old african emigre doods
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: possibly yer thinking of lessig et al
asciilifeform: ( via the mechanism described by mp_en_viaje upstack. )
asciilifeform: iirc mp_en_viaje had another piece, where 'went to dentist? why then fight with the anaesthesiologist' etc
asciilifeform: and will simply go to another usg.hoster
asciilifeform: aah so mp_en_viaje measured 70-80 mB (not mb) ? then pretty great
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it'd be 400. ( typically bw advertised in 'megabit', so mB * 8 )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: sounds like you built a new base in ro ? ( or didja get that 80Mb/s into a hotel! it did not occur to asciilifeform to try this.. )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lol!! and util cannot import back from br for 'reasons' eh
asciilifeform: hey, asciilifeform's 100 bux includes, e.g., a coupla bux of tax imposed during... spanish-amer war
asciilifeform: gypsy flea market had piles and piles of pc iron tho. however, the savages had nfi what it is and how to keep it, dumped it straight into and out of bags with old rusty wrenches, stolen doorknobs, etc. i dun think there was a single straight pin on the cpus.
asciilifeform did go into a comp shop in timis. it had ridiculous prices, and shit iron. mp_en_viaje evidently did not go to that one.
asciilifeform: for comparison : asciilifeform pays 100 / mo for 100 (up/down)
asciilifeform familiar with subj, but strictly from that likbez mp_en_viaje wrote some yrs ago
asciilifeform: perhaps they oughta try a diff mailorder catalogue. iirc jp emperor recently retired, perhaps he'd be willing to moonlight.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: relatedly, is there a royalist party in current-day ro ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: counter-intuitively, problem wasn't the wood (they weren't trying to, nor needed, to go kilometer under water, but only below where can be seen from victim vessel)
asciilifeform: but it worked approx as well as current-day 'thinking comp'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-09#1912142 << in 1721 a (wooden, pedalled) submarine was demoed in front of peter 1. he also asked 'how far can it go.' paid to build coupla moar. eventually unimpressed and demoted the builder to ordinary shipyard carpenter.
asciilifeform: imho 'think' is very narrow term, and oughta refer to what the operator is expected to be doing, and not the comp, lathe, saw.
asciilifeform: which i suppose is improvement on manually colouring the input with pencil, but grr.
asciilifeform: while we're on the 'best comp is the 1 that takes off yer head to shorten the misery' thread : asciilifeform did in fact get sumthing like a working highlighting from yesterday's crock of shit . but still can't trust it to actually not fuck the job , demonstrating mp_en_viaje's point
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/k5LJR << what appears to be orig src. spicy detail, 'He knew something about the skull: thicker and stronger at the front where he placed three shells. it would have made more sense – for maximum kill power – to put the shells at his temples, but it seems like he may have been trying to tic boxes for both homogenous skull obliteration and maximum death'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yes, actually. in ameri-school, can see not only this.
asciilifeform: it's still a calculator, lol. ( recall, 'computer' was simply name of a kind of shoemaker, i.e. d00d who would calculate repeatedly based on given 'loop' )
asciilifeform: i confess i dun see where is the problem. airplane flies, tho quite unlike sparrow, comp kompyoots, etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: funnily enuff, 'whether submarines swim' dunwork in ru ( where both boat and man 'swim' ) , similarly to how in eng both airplane and bird 'fly'
asciilifeform: late sovok lamp -- similar
asciilifeform: when asciilifeform was 'fresh off the boat' in '92, filament lamp was good for 2-3y.
asciilifeform: the ones sold (yes still sold, somehow) in usa, are 100% cartel-compliant, go for about a yr.
asciilifeform: after yrs of spitting, found item , and even verified w/ oscilloscope that it dun flicker . ( why tried at all ? ceiling fixture, bitch to change lamps in )
asciilifeform: incidentally, it is in fact possible to buy diode lamp that ain't a piece of shit. but strictly from chinese, and it costs actual dough, and physically large (flat heat sink, ~removable~ rectifier)
asciilifeform: an' i dun recall anybody whining about spectra back in gas lamp days.
asciilifeform: sodium a+++ lamp, where in edisonic lamp filament sublimates and sputters onto the glass, in sodium lamp the sublimated tungsten ends up going ~right back~ onto filament ( if somehow could be made to go back to exactly same place as came from -- lamp would be in fact eternal. as it is, 10y or so )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: if you think s.nsa can get some mileage out of the item, let's keep it, otherwise plox to dispose, i cannot in good conscience try an' power it with own steam , gotta save the coinz for piz work
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i had nfi fridge dutifully preserved the contents in liquid helium and racked up bill, lol. entirely fair if mp_en_viaje invoices asciilifeform for same.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aha
asciilifeform: ( also mp_en_viaje can pleez try an' convince fella to actually use pgp ? i tried in 3 languages, could not )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can you think of a use for it ?
asciilifeform: hanbot, mp_en_viaje : i assumed the service expired given as i did not go to renew.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: plox to invoice asciilifeform for expense, if reqd.
asciilifeform: hanbot: item turned out to be obsoleted by BingoBoingo's work, as i understand. but i'ma let mp tell me how to properly dispose of it (or whether to try an' bring it back to life)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: which things ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc ~this~ already for sale ( i even got a quote ) but sorta ridic. price (iirc 800k ameridubloons )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: outta curiosity, only varanul + other native scum get to be earls, or can e.g. putin buy dukedom ? how about soros ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: no, but might re-enroll in kindergarten, lol
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: as i understand they have it already -- for what then need party.
asciilifeform: since mp_en_viaje asked for nitpicks : how does http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911782 work w/ the existence of 'varanul' et al ? seems like they have the 'properties' , and so automagically end up with controlling share ?
asciilifeform: i confess , try as i might i dun see the point ( in light of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-18#1826391 historical record ) but if mp_en_viaje sees point, who am i to say he oughtn't .
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911824 << the 1 risk is that mp_en_viaje & co might actually end up in office an' consequently herding swine. rly, want to herd swine ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911793 << iirc there were a few similar trololols on this here side of ocean. e.g. 1 fella ran for pres on platform consisting solely of 'will have bush -- impaled'
asciilifeform: and if only only space . also brackets, ampersand, et
asciilifeform: and w/out reading the entire pila shit , impossible to say why.
asciilifeform: used it for many many yrs on my www , but never before attempted custom lang config .
asciilifeform: will have to bite bullet and write transformer from empty .
asciilifeform: ( it aint simply for 18c either, i have entire sequence of peh likbez planned , so hand-colouring is prohibitively ugh )
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: rite ? simple problem , on surface, 'take this grammar and throw colour tags where they belong.' but apparently even this can be fucked up, idjit tower of speshulcases doesn't detect breakage of grammar, instead pisses out unclosed html tags.
asciilifeform: it is ~physicallyimpossible to write any other kind in php.
asciilifeform: right, hence the comparison
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's reminiscent of experience of writing tasm macros lol
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i'm cutting the wp thing open to see if it can be made to behave, but at some pt will have to throw in towel and do sumthing else
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it was apparently designed by a tard. who insisted that 'single-char nonalphabetics' are 'symbols' and treated specially. and hardbaked a dependence on delimeters (i.e. whitespace) in the semantics. and fuckknows whatelse.
asciilifeform: difficult to give meaningful example w/out detailing the MB+ pile of shit that is the plugin. simply, config written seemingly according to docs, but there is html barfola in the output.
asciilifeform: rright but mp_en_viaje orig. made it sound as if fux were a recent discovery, like vlsi, lol
asciilifeform: or wat, it still 'aint sex' unless under blue led lamp, in suspension swing made of purest 1060 aluminum ?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc you had a much older alabama piece, with moar photo of same item, also
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: lol, cluj is on same parallel as asciilifeform's homeworld. what 'snowy north' .
asciilifeform: ( they did . but had to find ~empirically~ )
asciilifeform: there was old film, which i think mp_en_viaje's link is a frame from 'modern' remake of, where some kid unwraps a chocolate bar and 'ticket to tour the magic factory' where bathe in chocolate and etc
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re brazil, seems to me that petroexport and industry are a 'pick 1'. qatar case in point.
asciilifeform: prolly already televised competition in jp or sumsuch
asciilifeform: if they drink tho, will have to empty'em eventually eh.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje believes in french method, eh
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: today yes for free. result is that they nearly always resemble the timis item (albeit with ~working throne)
asciilifeform: dunno re when mp_en_viaje was still there, but incidentally the spiffy underground toilets in the museum square were chained shut, when i saw'em in '17
asciilifeform: btw, for [thread][http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911403]-completeness strictly, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/cultural_layer_1.jpg , http://www.loper-os.org/pub/cultural_layer_2.jpg .
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: evidently enuff wreckers were left over for older, smaller things, even tho bitcoin.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-06#1911437 << at 1 time i dug into phf's leads in prev thread re subj and tried to determine a 'time of death', i.e. approx moment when -- apparently -- the 'old guard' (folx who maybe quasi-remembered, secondhand, lispm) retired/decamped/descended into bottle, and poetterings took over. but then realized it is not esp. useful q to ask.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: yea it is wrong link. but so far not found the needed one.
asciilifeform: i'm not aware of any previous cl httptron that made this particular cut, so it's defo worth attempting imho.