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(trilema) diana_coman: uhm; my understanding is that Indices is in essence the type for bit-level indexing; sure some values overlap but you can't have in same fz same number of words as of bits unless wordsize is 1
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, in fz_type.ads: why is word_count range 1..Indices'Last and not 1..Indices'Last/Word'Size ?
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I sorted out some ada implementation and will post it; atm the struggle is more to figure out the "test vectors" for full sponge because of all this madness
(trilema) diana_coman: array of bits* there
(trilema) diana_coman: as I said: my recent headaches on the topic made this absolutely pop out to me
(trilema) diana_coman: ofc; but idiotic keccac "reference" implementation goes about reading *bytes* although spec clearly talks of bits and at most of z-dimension long array of bytes and as a consequence madness necessarily ensues
(trilema) diana_coman: "Note that endianness is irrelevant, here and elsewhere in FFA" <- FINALLY! esp given my recent keccak-induced headaches on the topic, I am delighted to read this; will dig deeper into ffa ch1 over the weekend
(trilema) diana_coman: aaand gprbuild 2011-4 apparently is strictly married with gnat4.6; gah
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, here I have one at 429437, started on 4th October; kind of got almost full data day by day, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: you know, this "fairness" thing doesn't stand 10 minutes face with reality even through a child's eyes; if only s/he doesn't try with all might to not look or something
(trilema) diana_coman: quite how I see it, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: that I have ample and repeated proof of, absolutely
(trilema) diana_coman: my point was there were none in his village/that he had a chance to even see at work /as an option before screwing it all and leaving rather than anything else
(trilema) diana_coman: I'm sure there were machines at that time, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: he was born in 1920; fwiw even now in villages I still see them manually doing the work, what can I say
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't think he realised/understood/perceived the option or he'd have gone for it as far as I can tell otherwise
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, what mecanization at that time and place
(trilema) diana_coman: yes, there were trees too, grapes, place to eat outside etc; but still!
(trilema) diana_coman: to his mind the land was wasted otherwise, waht
(trilema) diana_coman: so it wasn't either work or mud that he ran away from; it really was as he stated it the idiocy
(trilema) diana_coman: and ftr he always kept a perfectly well-worked garden ; at some point he even sold his produce in the market
(trilema) diana_coman: well yes, funnily enough his family was certainly poorer than those on the other side, yes; still, he actually made more for himself overall
(trilema) diana_coman: nope, he went away as young lad with pretty much whatever he could find; he tried them all from religious missionaries/sects/whatevers to singing; in the end he settled in town and worked as a worker in a factory, saved, bought some land, built the house *with his own hands* etc
(trilema) diana_coman: his words, I heard them lots
(trilema) diana_coman: the "idiotic work" and "fucking potato soup"
(trilema) diana_coman: on the other side, grandfather ran away from land basically because he hated it
(trilema) diana_coman: he considered himself peasant, waht
(trilema) diana_coman: and the farm land pretty much same way
(trilema) diana_coman: then he lost all the animals "colectivizare"
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hm; my great grandfather settled in Baragan on land that *his* father bought specifically for his sons;and the land was not 500m garden hut included either
(trilema) diana_coman: rather: for cheapest available that still retains the *form* of what it's supposed to be, at least to some degree; otherwise they could go barefoot one would think
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't doubt it; precisely my point above: they will go for whatever is cheapest available regardless of anything else
(trilema) diana_coman: somehow not-leather meant not-shoe; and tbh romania really was good at making leather shoes so dunno
(trilema) diana_coman: no, I don't; we always had leather shoes/sandals and I suppose I did not really notice much what others had for shoes
(trilema) diana_coman: yes, exactly; tbh I hated the *mud* that made them a necessity, myeah
(trilema) diana_coman: I remember plain and honest mud-country "gumari" and I still hated them, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: ugh, I thought those were modern day idiocy
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have the option of plastic or they'd have taken it just the same; that being said I still recall the communist-ro going precisely that route e.g. have now this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as the "true thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed to even remember olive oil
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743529 <- I suspect they don't afford it basically; and related, from the world that once (long time ago) was: http://www.dianacoman.com/blog/2017/06/26/democratie-cu-pantaloni-fara-pantaloni-mai-mult-fara/
(trilema) diana_coman: lol; those aren't plastic at least, are they
(trilema) diana_coman: yeah, I just can't see the "logic" in that "definition" but not really expecting it by now anyway; perhaps it's more of "but this is what we know and it's been around for x years therefore it is solid"
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, it's postmodernism in the usual sense that "this word here doesn't mean what it means anymore but something else I decided"; aka "backed" now means as far as I heard "but everyday transactions happen still in fiat"
(trilema) diana_coman: to me it seems they rehash that ~every time it jumps up in price by 1k or so
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, rot or non-rot shows equally at all levels, so it's rather hard to get much of a mixture of either side of it
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743279 <- I had this with cypriots too; bbbut no tv? not *even* where you sit with friends? what do you do?? well, we...talk, you know; to be fair I've put that on account of youth rather than more generic rot but maybe I was wrong
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742941 <- to my mind everything that is in there still stands as it is (assuming Qntra will be back soon); perhaps only on the study side but I'm not really sure it makes sense to give very precise items there anyway - who wants to study won't have problems finding what matters for TMSR at any given point anyway and who is not interested won't benefit from more specific items listed there
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, the Floating Bear sort of thing, lol; close to "atop a server"
(trilema) diana_coman: what is a micronation?
(trilema) diana_coman had this flash image of shinohai paddling in the North Sea atop a server
(trilema) diana_coman: fwiw I remember at some point I ran into weird issues with gnat that were apparently due to mismatched gcc version
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742497 <- oh, hey, thank you; ftr I took it, changed the type'Image things and then it compiled perfectly fine (with gnatmake 4.9.3, gcc 4.9.4)
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahaha "like mircea popescu or whatever his name is, but even with him i suspect he's not anywhere near as rich as he wants people to think he is - it doesn't add up; poorly fitted suits, average looking hotel suites/condos, spends all his time living in cheap shitholes which is precisely what white people who have money to live abroad but aren't rich do)" ; from ^^
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, 'good books in voodoo', let's not branch un-necessarily :p
(trilema) diana_coman: that being said, whenever I find I don't even have that poor picture as full and as clear as I'd like, I'm still left with little other choice then to go and read; possibly again, what can I do
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I suspect it's quite possible that the writer would end up with that q so... no book
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah, since reading more seriously on crypto I read a LOT of claims, certainly
(trilema) diana_coman: k, I think I got it
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, and then when client enciphers with 1 from a set of 8 selected from those 16: does this mean reusing that 1 key for as many 128 chunks that particular eulora message has? or do you mean 1 per chunk ?
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 16 serpent keys means 16 keys of 256 bits each?
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, aes keys??
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, aha!
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, let me see if I got this right re "patch": simply apply serpent as it is and then at the next level up glue x keys together and send as "key", glue the corresponding x outputs together and use as "output"; basically lump together 16 serpents
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, crossed with asciilifeform
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, 256 key, 128 block
(trilema) diana_coman: ha, back when I was blissfully only *playing* this game!!
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, that makes perfect sense, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: I think I need to read more on this, so I'll hit the books
(trilema) diana_coman: yes, I had found that one; for some reason I thought you had in mind a different approach for expanding block + key size for serpent itself
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, it was the construction on top you had in mind
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, I probably did not know how to search for it properly as I did look but still not very clear on it
(trilema) diana_coman: and 512 bits key too for that matter
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, mind expanding a bit on what you had in mind as best way to expand serpent to 512 bits blocks?
(trilema) diana_coman: I could have sworn I *did* upload it but apparently..I hadn't
(trilema) diana_coman: it is there now
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I was trying to keep my scope there relatively narrowly focused on serpent itself; it's not a very short post as it is anywya
(trilema) diana_coman: updated; I'll read and link when I find it, as it should be linked I think
(trilema) diana_coman: replacement for des rather
(trilema) diana_coman: hm, right; creation of "aes" rather than replacement, right
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, let me know if you see anything weird in there
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, works from here
(trilema) diana_coman: !!up Abot101
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, there is that, certainly
(trilema) diana_coman: diversity means it covers a wider range; doesn't necessarily mean average is higher
(trilema) diana_coman: and then there are anyway tradeoffs at all points; e.g. male stronger, yes; but generally less agile
(trilema) diana_coman: to start with I'm not sure there is such total separation between genders as in searches in male gender means advances do not translate further down the line in moving up the average on female gender too , for instance
(trilema) diana_coman: I can't say I really looked into this; I do remember your trilema article on this idea re searching in the male gender
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, it helps to pretend for a bit longer and then fall from the top of a higher cliff; is that the help?
(trilema) diana_coman: who the hell does it help exactly
(trilema) diana_coman: well, it ends up hitting everyone at that, doesn't it?
(trilema) diana_coman: but yes, that's my point: it's nothing to do with women per se being there; all to do with lowering the bar
(trilema) diana_coman: dunno the facts there, but afaik professional cooks are still majority men, aren't they
(trilema) diana_coman: I guess you can take "women become dominant" as visible threshold of "everyone makes it" but to my eyes that's already late as it were; profession ended long time before that
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> the writing is on the wall : whenever women become dominant in [what used to be] a profession, that profession ends. <- more like whenever *everyone* makes it into something, it's a clear bet that it's not anymore the something it used to be
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, I suspect nowadays you don't even need that; after all you've been named "adofdifjYYY" to be unique and so on to start with
(trilema) diana_coman: well, the eternal dream : it will be easy and fast and so on
(trilema) diana_coman: the way it goes then is that "but they weren't supposed to be like THAT!"
(trilema) diana_coman: if that did at least something....; and ugh
(trilema) diana_coman: ah, "sorta girlfriend", can be; onth I did stumble upon all sorts of reports from the other side: "my bf is all the time on his xbox, wut do" and so on
(trilema) diana_coman: poor girlfriend
(trilema) diana_coman: then they should add tambour de livre too at least
(trilema) diana_coman: I never heard it; dic says it's same as "a capitula"; possibly in a sponge-fight I'd gather
(trilema) diana_coman: unrelated: asciilifeform's dic has this weird "a arunca buretele" but doesn't have "a caca steagul"!!!11
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah, that's my "same thing by now anyway"
(trilema) diana_coman: but I suppose it's about the same thing by now anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: tbh it sounds more like teenage kids with too much pocket money or something
(trilema) diana_coman: wtf that upspin; ftr the answers are no, no, no and NO, who has such "problems" anyway
(trilema) diana_coman: or a knot I suppose; note*
(trilema) diana_coman: make a not that there are negative, "non-natural" numbers, what else is there to do, lol
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I get what you mean i.e. that's the zero, yes; however ...constructs of stupidity do...exist, what can I say
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'd say plenty *poorer* than children actually; I can't see how is "adult" with debt and whatnot "richer" than child
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahahah "dacă aveți probleme care vă ajută"
(trilema) diana_coman: PeterL and anyone else following along on keccak: 2 more problems found so far in the ada code namely 1. in the pi permutation it's the *output* coordinates that are calculated as Y, 2*X+3*Y based on input at X,Y and not the other way around; 2. at iota the corresponding round constant is xored into a(0,0) only, not into all the lanes of the state (following permutations will propagate the round constant)
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-16#1739830 <- PeterL you are right in that problem with your rho was more subtle: it *should* set all lanes but it didn't because of how new coordinates were calculated; basically you lose old x in the process and end up calculating newY as 5*oldY instead of 2*oldX+3*oldY
(trilema) diana_coman: will look at it again
(trilema) diana_coman: PeterL, hm; it seems though to end up with funny stuff if the output array is not initialised
(trilema) diana_coman: well, they did not give you the init of variables wtf!
(trilema) diana_coman: the ref is quite good in this respect I'd say, not that hard to follow
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, it is straightforward from algo descriptions in the reference
(trilema) diana_coman: aand found the bug at least on this one: rho initialises Ar(0,0) BUT uses then first thing...Ar(1,0)
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, portable is the rub there; I'll read more on ada for now, nothing much to add atm
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I don't yet know the answer to that; I'm still eating Ada so I can't decide either way; still, I don't ...like it, that's all I said; perhaps there is no solution to it, perhaps there is one
(trilema) diana_coman: I guess I'll test that one now...
(trilema) diana_coman: rho uses that Rotate_Left function which is imported from gnat; I'd rather not have it in a reference implementation tbh
(trilema) diana_coman: rho step is second,what can I say; first one passed, yes (theta)
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, he had those step functions private so initially inaccessible; so first I've tried a full test (i.e. input is this, do full keccak round, output should be this): it failed; so then I grunted through exposing the step functions at least at this stage and testing bit by bit;
(trilema) diana_coman: now torturing keccak and...
(trilema) diana_coman: NOT keccak; serpent
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, serpent passed the test vectors!!
(trilema) diana_coman: PeterL, did you test your permutation step functions on that keccak implementation? when I feed rho a full-zero state it seems to end up with non-zero output
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, what is "eccism" ?
(trilema) diana_coman: all the merrier for sure, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: and re peterl's keccak implementation trouble is that thoroughly testing it looks atm as much work as writing a new one in the process anyway so whatever version ends up with tests and everything is the one that will make it into v too I would say
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, depending on what we use finally it might be ada-serpent too,unclear
(trilema) diana_coman: I get the feeling that v is not really seen as versioning in the sense of these are the steps I took, still mulling a bit on thiw
(trilema) diana_coman: it uses the mpi part and quite substantially so works
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, we can do it yes; I guess the question is where to start i.e. no point in starting from koch that I can see; starting from asciilifeform 's sane-mpi would be one; adds and deletes stuff
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, all passed
(trilema) diana_coman: ftr for the serpent ada implementation I wrote the testing part: grabbed published test vectors and wrote a snippet to eat them up, call the serpent, check results, complain if any mismatch
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, certainly; I wasn't under any illusion that ada==pascal, no; there is some danger in the perceived similarity too, basically the "false friend" type
(trilema) diana_coman: oh, ugh; and yes, now you mention it I think it was same-change in Ro too
(trilema) diana_coman: aha, I liked it too; but then everywhere I went it was ...java/c/cpp
(trilema) diana_coman: we were started on pascal in 9th grade and explicitly "because it forces order and neatness unlike c/cpp" ; unfortunately at uni it was mainly c/cpp/java
(trilema) diana_coman finds ada rather endearingly - possibly because it reminds of Pascal
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, right
(trilema) diana_coman: I don't even know whether he tested it or how otherwise; also not sure if there isn't some way around using Strings.Unbounded
(trilema) diana_coman: I've been playing around with the keccak implementation from PeterL and it seems overall all right
(trilema) diana_coman: !!seen PeterL
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, there is that
(trilema) diana_coman found herself using "octet" in code because of going nuts with bytes/bits otherwise
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, myeah, hence my "what does it even do for me simply making this interval larger"
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, for starters I don't know what is "large enough" aka "not fatally small" p or q
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I meant in the final pair; i.e. you get p=3 and q=2^4095+1 sort of thing; ofc throw both in a pair if product not right size; but if not enforcing any size condition at all on p and q then you can end up with any small prime too
(trilema) diana_coman: that being said, I can't quite see it being any *worse* than this affair with fixed size AND fixed top bits
(trilema) diana_coman: apeloyee, my first thought went that way but then on one hand this just makes the interval larger basically and on the other hand I have no idea how to even evaluate the compromise (i.e. how large interval is large enough anyway, leaving aside that the how big is big enough for p and q is not that terribly clear either -at least not to me); in other words I can see it as an improvement but I can't actually evaluate it clearly
(trilema) diana_coman: apeloyee, if I understand that correctly basically the only way to plug that leak would be to give up on diddling p and q, including setting size; which would mean just get random pairs of primes until their product fits the desired number of bits for the key; obv this lands into the trouble of having one of them too small
(trilema) diana_coman: and by "flips" I mean sets them to 1
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737414 <- confirmed; I do NOT use any nextprime or other "rng"-parts from gpg; current rsatron prototype simply grabs nbits from fg, flips the 2 top bits and 1 bottom bit as per previous discussion and then checks if result is prime; if prime then keep, otherwise discard and try again; no "add 2 until prime" or other such thing
(trilema) diana_coman: at a first pass this duplex thing based on keccak seems to be a similar attempt really, hence my question if anyone looked at it more closely (I'm still trying to fully grasp it, not there yet)
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, re mp's algo, it was this: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1722036
(trilema) diana_coman: yees, but conceivably there might be one in the future; if no knob then no point as it were, entirely
(trilema) diana_coman: heh, true that; I think first trouble there is that "never-reuse" choice means "no-knob" for client who pays however for the traffic; the whole point was precisely to let player choose their own level of compromise between cost and security (otps are generated on the server for good reason)
(trilema) diana_coman: I meant the choice of specific, concrete way to expand the original bitfield i.e. "reuse the otp"
(trilema) diana_coman: yes; but it's unclear if a simple bitfield xor is best option
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, the second part is not so well defined/fixed yet
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'm still looking/exploring potential solutions for client-server communication needs in eulora
(trilema) diana_coman: however so far I focused on the reference paper on keccak itself (The Keccak reference version 3.0)
(trilema) diana_coman: well, I have several papers on keccak and one of them is this "Duplexing the sponge: single-pass authenticated encryption and other applications"
(trilema) diana_coman: I can't seem to find in the logs any discussion re duplex construction/duplexing the sponge i.e. keccak's authors own proposal of using keccak for authenticated encryption; did anyone look into this?
(trilema) diana_coman: p and q are different so there won't be exactly this limit case there, but obv same 4095 bits n instead of 4096 for other low-enough odd numbers that might be primes
(trilema) diana_coman: quite high I'd say; dunno if it's odds or simply wishful thinking on my side though
(trilema) diana_coman: what's a working foxybot module?
(trilema) diana_coman: morning mod6
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, it's actually IN the pasted material; that nbits/2 , lol
(trilema) diana_coman: will collect full data set on this proper too and then see what it shows exactly
(trilema) diana_coman: so yes, unsurprising; switched it to 4096 bits and time jumped accordingly to ~4 instead of ~2
(trilema) diana_coman: e there is half the bits so 2048 instead of 4096
(trilema) diana_coman: eh asciilifeform nevermind, I'm silly
(trilema) diana_coman: the rsa is same as last time
(trilema) diana_coman: what part of code ?
(trilema) diana_coman: I looked through the relevant mpi part but I can't say I get it to that degree to be able to figure this out
(trilema) diana_coman: existing koch-rsa, simply once with co-prime e, the other time with prime e
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, tbh that's why I've wrote it down here as I'm not really sure why that difference; I did not do any additional factorising or anything
(trilema) diana_coman: key generation takes ofc more for prime e than merely co-prime
(trilema) diana_coman: will write it up properly and publish the whole thing these days but this is first glance at it so feel free to comment
(trilema) diana_coman: in other news: data collection on rsa with random co-prime e and then with random prime e almost ready; at first glance on co-prime encryption:decryption times are as expected approx 4:1 (crt); with prime e the ratio is more like 2:1
(trilema) diana_coman: eh, eulora play means 15 minutes per day deciding what to do and giving task to bot; but I get the idea, I'm not pushing it on anyone really
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, funny enough I'd say the chief complaint is precisely that "it's not mmorpg as we know it"
(trilema) diana_coman: 1 satoshi = 10ECu
(trilema) diana_coman: ugh, the other way around
(trilema) diana_coman: recently 1 ECu = 10 satoshi so arguably it takes longer now to process same value in game, yes; but dunno about centuries and it certainly was NOT this that held people away until now, you know
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, iirc several people exchanged their ecu for btc and cashed out though no idea how much it was exactly (they usually come in with "will make whole coin!!!111 won't quit!!!" and then crash out of it a few days later)
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, eulora is a way to get btc; no tits required either
(trilema) diana_coman: hopefully still them, will see
(trilema) diana_coman: ah,hm, I thought they were same; I'll dig up the archive then and check
(trilema) diana_coman: in other things: I have been playing around with keccak and in particular with PeterL's ada implementation; as far as I can see it conforms to Version 3.0 keccak reference but I'm not sure re testing; any known test vectors for it? (the test vectors on current keccak's site seem to be for sha3)
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, myeah; ftr I opened them to look but - as expected - not much to see
(trilema) diana_coman: for the curious there are in fact 2 prolific-stamped documents describing pl2303 and pl2303x; pl2303x seems to be a sort of upgrade to 64bits but why couldn't it be properly identified as distinct I don't know
(trilema) diana_coman: n it is "new" pl2303x; *newer* linux will work because basically they have been adapted to the idiocy so they check and adapt
(trilema) diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735788 <- I don't really see how it is linux' fault here; so prolific used to make the pl2303 and old linux worked fine with it and still does; THEN they (or chinese cheap copies dunno) made a DIFFERENT thing pl2303x that has however the same serial id and everything so you can't distinguish between them before plugging them in pretty much; and so yes, old linux won't work because it sees it as pl2303 whe
(trilema) diana_coman: hmm, I suppose I could run a trial test on a batch of generated public exponents with co-prime rather than strict prime requirements, to see what small factors are there but not sure if this will say a lot really in itself; fwiw I don't feel particularly comfortable with the idea of a non-prime public exponent but I don't have mathematical proof for weakness introduced, hence my question
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(trilema) diana_coman: oh, oh; as far as I know there were 2 versions at least and one of them with 80kB, yes
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman iirc the cobra had 80kb ? <- hmmm, iirc 58 keys but I can't say I'm 100% certain
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, that one, yes! mine was made in-house by my father so I sort of know it more open-box than closed-box in any case
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, hm, I should get my '80s cobra then? centos 6 is not even recent tbh; but otherwise yes, I believe re no need to patch
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, one can patch the kernel to work with both pl2303 AND pl2303x; but otherwise yes, obv is obv, either actual serial port or otherwise finding a combo that works
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, for various definitions of resolve; I'm satisfied that problem was as identified i.e. pl2303x vs pl2303
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, if you mean the usb trouble with fuckgoats it was on *centos*
(trilema) diana_coman: (n.r. : Mircea, eu nu vorbesc nici la nervi cu atatea cuvinte NSFW cum ai scris tu, nu le vreau nici pe blog. Le-am sters de mana, dar un pic de atentie pe viitor poate nu strica
(trilema) diana_coman: ahahah; I'm out of touch with whatever columbeanus are current
(trilema) diana_coman: myeah; I meant that I don't quite see the basis on which this guy "sees" the similarity; but I'll admit I was being harsh
(trilema) diana_coman: si dai si lupta nicusorule...
(trilema) diana_coman: well, at least there's so much more ridicule patiently waiting for him to notice it...
(trilema) diana_coman: "M-am considerat nicusorist o buna bucata de vreme, pana in clipa in care mi-am dat seama de ridicolul situatiei" <- bwahahahaha
(trilema) diana_coman: what grace? what think? what...I??? where?!! lol
(trilema) diana_coman has trouble getting herself to read past the title even, given the...vibes of the whole thing
(trilema) diana_coman: asta-i alex branza moale adica?
(trilema) diana_coman: might; or the EU ...mhm, dunno, peace; or whatever in between; at the other end one... is ahead of it so can see already where the future is
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu> orcs are slow. <- from my personal experience this is actually a rather reliable empirical measure of how much someone groks reality as is; the analogy would be as to how far away they are from it, hence how much it takes for the "light" to travel aka them to see it; for some the splendours of Rome are visible only now so they still hold today's Rome to be the greatest thing; others are still seeing the Habsburg
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, huh, not that clear in my text, is it; will update; specifically: with 12 iterations probability that M-R falsely returns prime on a non-prime is less than (1/4)^12
(trilema) diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform no, i know. from the pov of rsa-being-attacked, it's probably better to have non-standard exponent than "everyone uses 65537" <- this
(trilema) diana_coman: asciilifeform, guess my next run will have to be with an fg-generated exponent as well; it's not a big deal to add that now; but this was very first run of the very minimal thing
(trilema) diana_coman: oh my; thank you apeloyee
(trilema) diana_coman: but in a few hours I'll have more uninterrupted time on my hands and I'll be able to go a bit deeper into it
(trilema) diana_coman: mircea_popescu, so far the ~only part iffy is perhaps choice of timer basically
(trilema) diana_coman: so far results similar in any case aka using public still 0.01... while private afterwards 1.0...
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