ben_vulpes: long end?
ben_vulpes: silicon is a dead end
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i've been thinking a lot about proteins lately
ben_vulpes: that one made an appearance in 'Ignition!' iirc
ben_vulpes: heh FOOF
ben_vulpes: trinque: yeah those failed boost targets are a real bitch
ben_vulpes: > brain codes
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: guarding plebs from the madness of irrational numbers!
ben_vulpes: someone has opinions about the curve
ben_vulpes: stay in your performance envelope, hotshot.
ben_vulpes: anyways it's not cake at issue, it's kakolate ice cream
ben_vulpes: rip tiberius
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1364834 << remember tiberius?
ben_vulpes: a winrar is he
ben_vulpes: saifedean, funkenstein_, and DiabloD3 - the list of dietary nutters grows...
ben_vulpes: sounds like you need some pedals like trinque
ben_vulpes: any idea what your wpm was, pete_dushenski?
ben_vulpes: pandemic, asciilifeform? /pandemic/?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just who /is/ the 'brightest mind in banking alive today'?
ben_vulpes: hail satan
ben_vulpes: fix << meaning address the failed targets?
ben_vulpes: ping me when you have new makefiles, i'm going to remap keys and engage in other weeding-type activities on this machine
ben_vulpes: gotcha, okay, starting to see how this all fits together.
ben_vulpes: neat stuff, dood.
ben_vulpes: cool.
ben_vulpes: that'd be it then.
ben_vulpes: trinque: fired your makefiles on obsd yet?
ben_vulpes: aha.
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about the gzip flag.
ben_vulpes: without, tar complains that the file uses gzip and that one must provide the `z' flag.
ben_vulpes: trinque: build/Makefile:16 `tar xvf' -> `tar xvzf` << any reason i shouldn't do this?
ben_vulpes: i already ripped the -s flag off the boost download, 'cuz i'm impatient and curious.
ben_vulpes twiddles
ben_vulpes reads, nm
ben_vulpes: trinque: is there a reason verify.mk uses `SHA512' instead of `sha512'?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel "ignition!" is a pretty choice read.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel no, no dedicated sales people yet. why do you ask?
ben_vulpes: it's possible that lispy power-magnifying tentacles are the best way to wrap hands around big ugly workpiles like linux
ben_vulpes: i am very much looking forward to experimenting with this
ben_vulpes: oh ho ho
ben_vulpes: > nope.js
ben_vulpes: good evening gabriel_laddel
ben_vulpes: solution imho is to make not mining these transactions economically suicidal
ben_vulpes: Chesterly: do you do any research before spouting off in general?
ben_vulpes: this is not a machine for $work
ben_vulpes: either under the reign of steve or others.
ben_vulpes: life is suffering.
ben_vulpes: anyways, your penchant for finding what is wrong with anything aside, openbsd happily supplants os x on mac hardware. for those willing to endure some pain to get away from the shitgnomes, and who have not been obsessively tending a gentoo installation since 1999.
ben_vulpes: if that means working in terminals or not using any chrome in x11, so be it.
ben_vulpes: listen, i just want a machine that's not running os x with the hardware quality build of the golden-era macintosh laptops.
ben_vulpes: i doubt it's leveraging the gpu at all
ben_vulpes: x11 wms do this better than os x does.
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: sounds like a problem for your window manager
ben_vulpes will be acquiring more vintage hardware in this vein
ben_vulpes: aged, delicate, valuable. should be treated as such.
ben_vulpes: also, this machine is not suited to be a portable anymore.
ben_vulpes: bsd suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disk iiuc
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: i'll check in on zzz and ZZZ, ascii_butugychag
ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: if you're looking for something to do with those old mac laptops, openbsd 5.8 runs like a dream on 'em
ben_vulpes: here's one for pete to rip apart: http://www.byclintedwards.com/2016/01/my-son-wants-to-make-money-my-daughter-wants-to-marry-a-rich-prince-heres-the-problem-2.html/
ben_vulpes: because i really wanted a shitty wrapper around shitqlite
ben_vulpes: god bless coredata
ben_vulpes: hallmark of tentacle-entites is blue text in html emails.
ben_vulpes: hospitals idem
ben_vulpes: infuckingvariably.
ben_vulpes: und dich, stas
ben_vulpes: good morning
ben_vulpes: !up ascii_butugychag
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-01-2016#1362921 << an /argentine/ lawyer?
ben_vulpes: aaa
ben_vulpes: why would do people use programming languages that do this?
ben_vulpes: so this gathering nausea in the pit of my stomach when i read through implement_randomize_stack is perhaps an intuitive clue
ben_vulpes: but but why
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/util.h#0449 << i'm 12 and what is this?
ben_vulpes: generally speaking i am but a mere technician; can follow proofs and understand their implications for bolt patterns and circuit design, but more interested in...bolting things together and making circuits than proving novelty.
ben_vulpes: no sir
ben_vulpes: why d'you ask?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no, i have never done any work with theorem provers.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-01-2016#1361890 << heh you crapping these turds out entertains me no end given how long and loudly you've yelled in the past about the impossibility of it
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-01-2016#1361807 << i had mega-fun with this when playing around with a sql schema for the blockchain
ben_vulpes launches a bubble from the submersible
ben_vulpes: neato
ben_vulpes: scope i used vastly prefers to shit csvs.
ben_vulpes: should i come up with my own hairbrained scheme to do so or ask how best to get entropy out of this rng directly from you?
ben_vulpes: suppose i have a series of voltage readings over time, and i wish to turn these into binary data.
ben_vulpes: but i have a more mundane one for you
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: good question.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-01-2016#1360029 << fwiw, i generally like the /people/ i met /working/ there.
ben_vulpes: well, /raised/ by wolves.
ben_vulpes mostly curious to know how mircea_popescu thought this would come off
ben_vulpes: so you'll pay for the beer but not for the babes to get to the middle of goddamn nowhere?
ben_vulpes: or would this party planner actually have to recruit gap-teeth dropouts from the surroundings?
ben_vulpes: also out of curiousity mircea_popescu would you pay for the babetruxx necessary as well?
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: dude that is five hours away and i am not seeking valhalla.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: shit's going to be expensive, and cold.
ben_vulpes: heh is that so?
ben_vulpes: what is the latest and greatest on the oregon thing?
ben_vulpes: ran it down; more pebkac
ben_vulpes: must i actually compile this motherfucker myself?
ben_vulpes: is it so much to expect the gentoo package manager to know how to install gdb?
ben_vulpes: ^^ things i did not expect to see today but am nevertheless not terribly surprised by
ben_vulpes: emake failed
ben_vulpes: ERROR: sys-devel/gdb-7.9.1::gentoo failed (compile phase):
ben_vulpes: ayup, saw that
ben_vulpes: http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2013/2/17_Macintosh_Common_Lisp.html << neat history of lisp and gui development on os x
ben_vulpes not much of a party planner
ben_vulpes: myeah a few
ben_vulpes: granted that's at 5am
ben_vulpes: Burns, OR is 18 F (-8 C) and Snow; windchill is 11 F (-12 C); winds are From the North at 5 MPH
ben_vulpes: that'd be a nippy party
ben_vulpes: going to be aaaawesome
ben_vulpes: this militia action is going to cost the agencies untold sums
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-01-2016#1359478 << "10x 3ngin33r!"
ben_vulpes: "Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said."
ben_vulpes: it's popcorn time! http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/drama_in_burns_ends_with_quiet.html
ben_vulpes: quip on
ben_vulpes: "oh it's just alf lol doing in an afternoon what the usg dreamt of doing all throughout the ninedies"
ben_vulpes: 'shiva' dramatically undervalues the work that went into undoing a bastion of the crypto wars, pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-01-2016#1359407 << no shit?! that's monumental.
ben_vulpes: supplychain
ben_vulpes: but not the bitcoin blockchain that's sacred or something so i have a new one
ben_vulpes: no but no but we'll do inventory in the blockchain meerka
ben_vulpes: i've never seen contracts around here run anywhere near what bezzlelandia contracts do
ben_vulpes: b,tmsr~
ben_vulpes: a PDF with changes conveniently color coded underlined and colorized to highlight moved text, removed text, added text and umpteen other categories of change.
ben_vulpes: you know what the absolute cherry on top is?
ben_vulpes: word
ben_vulpes: fucking
ben_vulpes: mother
ben_vulpes extremely fucking loath to hire us degree holders under the age of forty
ben_vulpes: uno minimo respeto por la concern troll!
ben_vulpes: leading to a great fuckton of "this corporate document is insufficiently sensitive to groups x y and z, and even though i'm not a part of any of them the corp must now change these docs or else what have i wasted the past n years of my life on anyways"
ben_vulpes: a thing once a hallmark of literally the 98th percentile is now distributed to more-or-less all comers, but the education is now 90% training people to demand the respect such a diploma'd have warranted in the 1900s and 10% intersectional triggering studies
ben_vulpes: "And in the 20th century there were more and more college graduates. They increased from about 2% of the population in 1900 to about 25% in 2000." << if this is true, it definitely explains the PITA that "college educated" people are in the states.
ben_vulpes: well with bandwidth like that any noise at all would snipe it from the list
ben_vulpes: *additional* learning.
ben_vulpes: adlai: i might understand how it works, but i thought there might be...learning to had lurking over there.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1359041 << while in theory there is no way to enforce them in practice there is no alternative to the gpg c-ball, and so therefore similarly to how the thing resists librarification it also enforces key expiration. until mpex doesn't respect key expiration, it /is/ enforced.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai is there really something to learn in #joinmarket?
ben_vulpes: alternatively, comparing documents manually.
ben_vulpes: mind = blown
ben_vulpes was astonished to learn the american legal system runs on word and has ultimate faith in 'track changes'
ben_vulpes is cobbling together some grep and sed as we speak to ease the pain of handling fiatland contracts
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358897 << amen, especially to the contracting bit.
ben_vulpes: nm, dug it out of logz.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: around?
ben_vulpes: raaa
ben_vulpes off
ben_vulpes: http://www.almy.us/xlisp.html << apropos of absolutely nothing
ben_vulpes: no, i get that in the mirror every morning
ben_vulpes: again
ben_vulpes foiled by the universal abhorrence of symmetry in api design
ben_vulpes: ah well my mistake then
ben_vulpes: did assbot never do down receipts?
ben_vulpes: ^^ last three messages
ben_vulpes: -assbot- You voiced lobito for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: -assbot- You voiced lobito for 30 minutes.
ben_vulpes: -assbot- Need a nickname, ben_vulpes.
ben_vulpes: !up lobito
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: assbot isn't sending down receipts
ben_vulpes: !down lobito
ben_vulpes: !up lobito
ben_vulpes: !up
ben_vulpes: !down lobito
ben_vulpes: hm, well run an assperiment with me briefly? imma down him again and see if assbot still doesn't say anything
ben_vulpes: assbot said nothing, and i have voice changes turned off.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't think my down even took.
ben_vulpes: !down lobito
ben_vulpes: surely not enough of them are missing enough children for the economy to fail to require they all take care of the grandkinder...
ben_vulpes: you'd have to clear the grandmothers out first
ben_vulpes: this strikes me as a not-half-bad strategy: live in poverty for 9 mos, travel (also in poverty, but looking sooper cool) around fucking the young hotties for 1.5, come home and live on someone's couch looking for the next cafe that needs a warm body.
ben_vulpes: this is also why the hipster girls are shaving their temples when they have otherwise rather nice and well-kempt heads. all the hipster boys work in coffee shops 22 hours/wk, and live in poverty to spend their time touring with 'their band'.
ben_vulpes: how boggle? i didn't notice any l33t doodz in bsas the girls'd dress to the nines for.
ben_vulpes enjoys slumming it
ben_vulpes: los trabajadores indeed
ben_vulpes: blondie with a great rack took lady v and myself to a mega club when we were there. name completely slips my memory, but it was a giant reggaeton/cumbia shitshow palace. no fuckrooms, all concrete
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes catches up to thread tail http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-01-2016#1358469 << farmers who don't minimize mortality rates don't last long as farmers.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-01-2016#1358375 << how d'you propose to price the damage to herd immunity?
ben_vulpes: unrelated
ben_vulpes: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/no-jab-no-pay-immunisation-law-likely-to-go-ahead-20151112-gkx75p.html
ben_vulpes: or anyone else.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform can you link me to the "common lisp is for hard problems" naggum bit?
ben_vulpes: don't hash power fluctuations make tracking large blocks of time a nondeterministic problem?
ben_vulpes: what is a year?
ben_vulpes: are pm's actually...p?
ben_vulpes: plus i have this hunch that reconciling hilarious mpex receipts is an epic pile of work
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "founder" is a very sv title. saccharine, makes my teeth hurt almost.
ben_vulpes: software is a skosh more tricky to muntz, especially the shitstack.
ben_vulpes: there's a whole story about a guy who had a teevee fab company
ben_vulpes: !s muntz
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: muntz on, panzer
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-08-2015#1224991
ben_vulpes: this is most apparently when rails devs go "omg docker" because it lets them reproducibly build execution environments
ben_vulpes: just because someone's been writing "rails apps" for years doesn't mean they know anything about how ruby works. django/python idem.
ben_vulpes: and are you programming "php" or are you programming "wordpress"?
ben_vulpes: the play-dough of webdev
ben_vulpes: dude PeterL you still hafta sign it
ben_vulpes: is that its send-from or send-to?
ben_vulpes: what, it only has one?
ben_vulpes: of course one misses out on all the traderfeelz
ben_vulpes: if you're long and have regular income, dollar-cost-averaging isn't the worst thing in the world.
ben_vulpes: terrorist, extirpate thyself
ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/30/really-rich-people-are-suddenly-paying-quite-a-bit-more-in-taxes/ << http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm4tk8aP0s1qdpcoso1_1280.png
ben_vulpes: well then skip it
ben_vulpes: if its onerous skip it
ben_vulpes: shinohai: anyways i have some time right now so choppa choppa
ben_vulpes lives in usa, will likely never own coin
ben_vulpes: shinohai: savvy?
ben_vulpes: for big bash shit (heaven help you) have a single file with the project functions exported, and smaller scripts that import that file and then call the relevant functions
ben_vulpes: pass args to functions for anything that might change ever
ben_vulpes: jam discrete bits of side-effect into functions
ben_vulpes: set -xeu
ben_vulpes: fwiw the rules are simple
ben_vulpes amazed to be doing this in b-a now
ben_vulpes: may as well just gpg-gram it to everyone in l2, who knows if someone else might get to code review before me
ben_vulpes: gpg-gram and paste it to me, i'll get to it eventually
ben_vulpes: http://bikeportland.org/2015/12/30/activists-place-traffic-cones-to-improve-safety-of-bike-lane-along-new-orange-line-max-171493 << cascadians taking road rules into their own hands
ben_vulpes: all is void
ben_vulpes: nada.
ben_vulpes: hola shinohai
ben_vulpes: hail satan, smoke meth, write c etc.
ben_vulpes: you know where the void is, and the invitation to scream into it probably won't close any time soon.
ben_vulpes: adlai: i dun much care one way or t'other, but if you don't want to get null-routed you're going to have to give more of a shit about how the other people here judge your 'psychobabble'.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform subkeys ruining someone's day?
ben_vulpes: adlai: d'you intend to do something about the snr complaints?
ben_vulpes can dig
ben_vulpes: "danielpbarron sez ur cheeting, out witcha"?
ben_vulpes: and how to arbitrate?
ben_vulpes: more relevantly to the problem, how would a webpoker designer address collusion?
ben_vulpes: good day, tourists
ben_vulpes: 'tis noble.
ben_vulpes: > rescuing bitcoins
ben_vulpes: haw
ben_vulpes: > rescuing bitcoins from bitpay
ben_vulpes: i think i'm fine with week stale ratings
ben_vulpes: trust doesn't operate in real time
ben_vulpes: !gettrust adlai
ben_vulpes chomps
ben_vulpes: trinque: stop triggering me
ben_vulpes: have fun with the pastebuffers tho
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform fwiw rms' turd actually runs better under x11 on os x than under the native windowing system
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform which emacs, which os x. ffs what am i a scryer of retard toolchains?
ben_vulpes: s.wooning
ben_vulpes: !up adlai
ben_vulpes: watching you dig your own grave is far too entertaining