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(trilema) ben_vulpes: you see that bank over there?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: original sheepfuckers no doubt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey man i have cohen markers i'll have you know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > sheep fuckers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm sure fails to measure up to mircea_popescu's discriminating eye in some way or another
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some no doubt derpy bdsm get-together
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 8192 goddamn inodes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: weird, i was under the impression they went to 'munches' on the coast
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu linked a lulzy story about rape fantasizers visiting those
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: hasn't found the sex addict 12-step groups yet?
(trilema) ben_vulpes plugs ears, sings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey now trinque insanely long book of retarded rules says no fucking sheep, nobody fucked sheep that's racist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from these scrolls
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: danielpbarron has the /truth/ you see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: there can only be one!1
(trilema) ben_vulpes imagines danielpbarron getting a hold of a mistranslation of other ancient texts, declaring fatwa
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess you're right then
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh right those three letters
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "higher power must mean what i mean by god, and so therefore HEWETICS"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you assume you know what they mean by higher power man
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "o i dun need to talk to them, i read some ancient texts. this is how we do in my church so it's the right way to do things elsewhere."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for not actually talking to the practitioners
(trilema) ben_vulpes: read just a skosh closer dude
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i judge liberally
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hypocritically how?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're way over there in your church of self-righteous unexamined life, examining everyone else from a pillar of plugged ears and closed eyes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've not talked with twelve steppers about what 'higher power' means, how would you know.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you've not done the twelve steps, how would you know.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lookee, nobody cares.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but it's not the twoooo gawwwwd!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: they hear "higher power" and lose their shit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so leave off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: have you ever spent much time with the twelve steppers?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: abdicating choice to someone/something that is "not you" lies at the heart of the thing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: it's a particular reprogramming that doesn't have much to do with the bible.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is enjoying the bible vs. big book citation spats
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from the bikeportland followup: "Hagg said he thinks the solution to problems like that is to drive troublemakers away." << even the motherfucking /bums/ know that you have to drive the worthless fucks off if anyone's to have a decent party.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://mentalfloss.atavist.com/secrets-of-the-mit-poker-course << intriqued to hear what the poker afficionados have to say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is a /brand/ name
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do please link
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you'd have a simple pour-over, not an immersion hybrid.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what now, peers and mempool?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/abid/clever << were it not plastic the thing would be completely unbeatable
(trilema) ben_vulpes bought a new clever and a new kettle for the new staffers today to parallelize the coffee production
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'not' also available in my office, which i suppose doesn't count because also 'my kitchen'
(trilema) ben_vulpes knows the guy who invented the field-roasting technique
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just takes a paint drying gun and some practice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and no you cannot roast them in your kitchen because you can't get the good shit because you don't buy by the teu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there is no artisanal anything, there are just a bunch of hipsters competing to roast beans well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you guys live in fucking zimbabwe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wine in "red" and "white
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform...lives in dc, probably thinks coffee comes in "burnt" and "not"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform...is surprised?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and blowjobs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's what gibson and pynchon and heller are for
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why do i even read this shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol bitcoin classic on slack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: typically, and sort of.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: your choices are to either diddle screen rez or 'zoom' on browser, non?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there's something about working nearly alone as a sniper versus together with some people you don't really hate all that much as fuel convoy unit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "writing in languages i hate with people i love to be used by hominids i'd not waste a carrot on" or what was it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless you want to make all os widgets take up vastly more space too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well asciilifeform-style overdramatized 'p0vertee'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: bums don't pay?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pets consume a fixed fraction of income, may as well minimize integral of fraction over the next decade or so.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adapting to poverty was explicit goal of late twenties though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tromping down stairs as i write.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: other side of the wall, i mean.
(trilema) ben_vulpes lives in box with other people 2m away, even
(trilema) ben_vulpes impoverished usian, does not even have workstation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh and grep newlines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i guess i can skip the fanthread
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am i seriously looking at a 1k+ logbacklog?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tangled how?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but that's just because elisp completely lacks namespacing facilities, phf, there couldn't possibly be any sour-grapes malice at work!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at least i can update my blog
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wasn't there some cl-in-elisp thinger?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imagine the lifestyle that makes life with flycheck less miserable than life /without/ flycheck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol asciilifeform thinks he labors in little gulag of horrors
(trilema) ben_vulpes just reread flycheck thread
(trilema) ben_vulpes not engaging in wannabe red team wankery, this wine is over and am out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thirty-second inch veneers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and because you can't stairs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: they now control marijuana in this derpy little province too
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (hey, it's a bank holiday. half the staph even bothered to show up, and those left as soon as they fixed the fucked up builds they shipped on friday, leaving me and $bzprtnr alone with the tequila and org chart)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "oregon liquor control commission"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dood you gotta look into the nightmare that is the olcc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i suppose /some/ of the bdsm clubs do that, simply to keep the olcc out of their hair
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and exhibit tits without booze?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sell alcohol with no booze?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gosh mircea_popescu you just don't understand how the world works do you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: even brought me stale pumpkin seeds!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: starbucks is searching for profit the only way it can be had in america, by going upmarket
(trilema) ben_vulpes: rebuttle's way mo bettle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: straight to tip jar
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "but yeah give me those two bucks"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ultimately, "no no, now i want to drink whatever's being sold as pinot gris here"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: babe at the counter offered to cash the remaining two dollars out, triggering all sorts of my exclamations
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey man someone sent me a gift card for some inscrutable reason
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hohoho i just discovered that starbucks will cash out gift cards
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wb to the states, mthreat :D
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guy really insists on his particular brand of suffering
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because if you put it to writing it is going to read as "programmer"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am asking what precisely that is in your bosses eyes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not your real true self
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what pray tell are you in your bosses eyes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dude programmers in america are the most spoiled group in terms of bennies and tolerance of absurd work behavior and yet you insist that you must conf0rm!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually talking to managers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not doing dumb shit!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not understand this hair shirt buying into of corporate culture
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: did not answer the question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if chance, it's a poor gamble. if it's a promise, why can't they buy a box for your haus?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is this for the /chance/ to do so or the /promise/ to do so?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no but why must you have the computing device with you?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and i suppose broomstick.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: this is what you get for trying to do s33r1ous wurk! on a portable
(trilema) ben_vulpes: department of lolz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not arguing that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> uh i mean flycheck
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol mircea_popescu is using a box with ready access to emacs 25?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's your gulagbox, who knows or cares
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_butugychag: it's haskell, who knows or cares
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or even just block
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/Bitcoin blockchain/Bitcoin blockheight/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but your screeds, your dating notation boss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imho, should really read "block height 6666666"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha and mircea_popescu is finally dating missives with block heights
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is this patch to disable asics?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (also 'dark age blood sports' lol)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol breitbart
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there are excellent reasons for the 80-col law.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guruvan: what better route forward then? ubuntu 14.04?
(trilema) ben_vulpes downloading stage three for the...second? third? time today
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nifty device, asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2 things drove this toolchain rebuild: exwm and tri-on-the-metal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "why gentoo?" asked $bzprtner, "is that the best linux thing around for working on mega-c projects?" "no, it's simply the least-worst and has a snowflake's chance of working"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: againstillnowwithgusto
(trilema) ben_vulpes: today it's gentoo quest.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: video drivers etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: boost ate shit, tri segfaulted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: should have listened to you, but must piss on each and every fence myself.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: chapter something in the story, yes asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with a mouse, on a house
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have built in docker, cloud, etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: myriad layers of virtualization.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas not sane.
(trilema) ben_vulpes is doing the same thing he's been doing for the past three weekends, building a sane development environment on actual metal
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guy writes javascript, uses mawk...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > i adopted it in 2009
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did i hear that someone managed to get rotor to clobber their whole homedir?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what is with you and unsanitary working conditions
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, doesn't get hot enough to do the radiant trick, you end up heating the whole place instead of the place where you are.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: takes mega current
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: electric is the *worst*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that was a fun day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: only time i ever came close to death by co2 was operating the concrete cutter in someone's basement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah well get a bigger shop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "science doesn't suck -- it blows!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you want the eye of sauron: mr heater mh15t
(trilema) ben_vulpes: is that /plastic/?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, "most" relative to volume of shop.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which one? and why unendurable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plus very tall ceilings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: co poisoning not really an issue, it's a slow flow over some steel mesh, more or less everything burns off on the mesh going to co2
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also blew crap all over the shop while i was finishing tables and whatnot, so eventually decommissioned.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did not work as well as the radiant attachments atop the propane tank
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pumped water through the furnace, up to our shop, and through an old car radiator with a fan behind it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BUT SO AWESOME
(trilema) ben_vulpes: horrendously noisy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'twas outside
(trilema) ben_vulpes maggot, proud to find free energy around
(trilema) ben_vulpes: there was a chinese restaurant giving it away up the street!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: furnace was for heating warehouse where i was working
(trilema) ben_vulpes: learned that turbo machinery is clearly the correct solution
(trilema) ben_vulpes: piston was for lulzy undergraduate water cooled lfr engine design with reciprocating pistons to pressurize fuel lines
(trilema) ben_vulpes: piston or furnace?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: actually the waste oil furnace was pretty good
(trilema) ben_vulpes regards the vast pile of oddities that sorta-worked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: like everything else i do.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: didn't! at all!
(trilema) ben_vulpes once attempted to fab a piston
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah well who knows how the trajectory actually draws through the possibility space
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gotta kill the megastates first though.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ofc one could also do entirely away with the 'cc' part.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways an entirely viable future is one wherein the various lords with computing gear remaining in the closet operate their own bitcoind variants as local banks, holding chits for the peasants and reconciling over shortwave gpggram
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha carbides
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: myes, i can see this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hawala, then?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform i'm suffering from a failure of imagination--care to link me to the thread where you explain how a cc would work without miners?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very causation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > fee market
(trilema) ben_vulpes: exwm and the reference implementation are ~90% of my current compute goals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had emacs in x11
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mine did obsd just fine, didn't want to accelerate videocards though
(trilema) ben_vulpes: great vintage
(trilema) ben_vulpes: srsly not the kahlua
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry, the relentless carblogger threads have me twisted
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh wait this is fiat currency not fiat cars
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: the fiat involvement is not clear
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sorry, $client left many bottles of homemade kahlua at the office
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm playing *gentoo quest* most recently...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm playing openbsd quest most recently, as openbsd didn't do drivers or reference implementation compilation
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what kind of linux, what kind of mbp?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: funny you should mention this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: buy cars and not computers. have no representation in the wot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adherence to the modernist forms notwithstanding.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: they /are/ barbarians.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where'd it cut off?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but now i am a man and i hang fools by my own hand
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