ben_vulpes: sure
ben_vulpes: so one'd need ~ 1/144th of nethash?
ben_vulpes: #definitelynofuckinnode
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what was the calculation you ran to determine the hashpower necessary to nail a block more or less every 24 hours?
ben_vulpes: writing software fills a boy with hate.
ben_vulpes: #nodeps
ben_vulpes: choo choo!
ben_vulpes: i'm sure polarbeard can get on that train
ben_vulpes: yes let's compile libcurl into the reference implementation
ben_vulpes: the log history that you're missing is that blockheight is the only non usg-shared time.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: good idea except that syncing reference implementations to the best of my knowledge don't know the current blockheight
ben_vulpes: didn't phf do something with timestamps?
ben_vulpes: fuck you o'clock lol
ben_vulpes: led*
ben_vulpes: in the meantime, try to understand why we use 'v', and why your failure to do so has lead me to stomp on the ground like a petulant child.
ben_vulpes: anyways, interesting thing, polarbeard, perhaps i shall test it some day along side the tools written by people i trust like mod6 and trinque and asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes has now filed reports with whip-crackers, can go home to die in sweet embrace, will be off shortly
ben_vulpes: i saw some turds, asked some questions, am not entirely thrilled with answers.
ben_vulpes: i have to admit, my eyes glazed over.
ben_vulpes: this is 'yagni' optimization.
ben_vulpes: violates principles of v, though.
ben_vulpes: why won't you answer that one
ben_vulpes: but more importantly the patches
ben_vulpes: diffsplit
ben_vulpes: "i didn't know any better" is, for the record, an entirely acceptable response.
ben_vulpes: and for the umpteenth time polarbeard /why/ split the damn patches and introduce a million new dependencies?
ben_vulpes: i literally do not care and the spending of time figuring out why the derps do what they do is best left as an exercise to good men like mister backtick who actually enjoy hanging out on bitcointalk.org all day
ben_vulpes: and no this is not "electron" this is why did isaac fuck ahmeds goat
ben_vulpes: the dependency chain of "well i work for satan because i got this useless phd that i got because i had a masters i didn't know what to do with because i got a bachelors that i similarly didn't understand the purpose of because i was told to go to college and" it never fucking ends and i don't really give a shit about the root cause for whatever retardation.
ben_vulpes: this is like me giving a shit about what gavin and company do and derp about on reddit.
ben_vulpes: oh, whichever sins?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: in reference to?
ben_vulpes is the undereducated american today as every day
ben_vulpes: whomever?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i care not why whoever sins however.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: look at my contribution history. it is very nearly 100% reimplementations of that which asciilifeform or mod6 or trinque have written first.
ben_vulpes: polarbeard: should reimplementing toposort be impossibly painful for you...
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1381913 << and that's eating the capital of all sins
ben_vulpes: why split the patches, polarbeard, quit dodging the question.
ben_vulpes: why?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1381849 << more dependencies, and again i ask /why/
ben_vulpes: if so easy to review, similarly easy to explain.
ben_vulpes: why.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381817 << what? what?!
ben_vulpes: electron beam and a good set of sights
ben_vulpes: editor of the dirigible
ben_vulpes: nano!
ben_vulpes: the mind, it doth boggle.
ben_vulpes: (or two man-years, yes)
ben_vulpes: "what, can't afford 10 dollars for your text editor?"
ben_vulpes: i routinely mock users who have the escape wired into their brains
ben_vulpes: lol over there too?
ben_vulpes: some "we're going to revolutionize editing text by pretending emacs was never a thing"
ben_vulpes: or Sublime Dicks
ben_vulpes: i'd wager this one uses Atom
ben_vulpes: you can smell the users of fashionable editors a mile away
ben_vulpes: https://gist.github.com/polarbeard/90d9a921f084ed4ae942#file-buildgen-L30 << enough with the aligned shits
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: japanese for-placement-only netdrones could probably snag one
ben_vulpes: we have yet to arrive at state-issued flats for all but the most deeeeeserving of poor.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381723 << which is mind-boggling given the thing has a what turbofan?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381688 << 'tis just a step on the road to the obvious solution of entirely disposable versions of all the above
ben_vulpes: no, go on
ben_vulpes: i was talking about several things!
ben_vulpes: yes. that's a joke about stock in startups.
ben_vulpes: 'tis in the logs.
ben_vulpes: again with the not reading the threads omg!
ben_vulpes: time flies
ben_vulpes: wow
ben_vulpes: (tr) (m)
ben_vulpes: it's good for the envirowhatever
ben_vulpes: "wipe your hands on your pants, plebe"
ben_vulpes: good old anemic hand dryers
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: i can see it though
ben_vulpes: dude heaven forfend
ben_vulpes: apparently i'm so scary i'm the only one taking the wine^H^H^H^Htoilet paper home
ben_vulpes: well it doesn't actually work, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1381525 << same exact story here. californians and it only happens once per year.
ben_vulpes: toilet paper, and i ain't talkin equity!
ben_vulpes: lol you didn't read the thread didja
ben_vulpes: well that's novel and depressing
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: what is this 'up elevator'
ben_vulpes: clearly, there's no 'worthy' but 'demands'.
ben_vulpes: relatedly, how does one grow worthy of the golden dirigible? kill everyone between you and it? does this hold for the smith? what about brunel?
ben_vulpes: i am now confronted with the difficult question of what the fuck i'm doing even owning my own stock.
ben_vulpes: life would be more like you don't get them when you need them.
ben_vulpes: rubs the wrath itch?
ben_vulpes: i wonder what alf gets out of it, so competent as he is.
ben_vulpes: years of slaving for nuggets of insight once or thrice a quarter
ben_vulpes: anyways this place is amazing
ben_vulpes: lol golden dirigible
ben_vulpes: anyways, thanks for the insight.
ben_vulpes: i realized that the shartup bezzletron actually got this right
ben_vulpes: i just had the weirdest experience
ben_vulpes: explain the parallel in a little more detail?
ben_vulpes: and as a result, my equitizing the staff is miserably difficult.
ben_vulpes: fucktarded teen still gets hoodwinked with worthless paper regularly.
ben_vulpes: i had to explain how buy-and-hold of non-dividend-paying-stocks the other day wasn't forgoing compounding.
ben_vulpes: ofc not
ben_vulpes: wall street and congress got a hold of the notion and now there are all sorts of arcane bezzle-quirements like "must get valued by a state-blessed valutron", "must be investment grade paper" etc.
ben_vulpes: the insane fucking rules around ESOPs. i tell you.
ben_vulpes: funny you should mention that
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: tax*
ben_vulpes: hey man i'm just trying to get cash in the kids pockets while paying as little taxes on it as possible
ben_vulpes: i don't see the problem with embezzling a reasonable amount of toilet paper. it's a valid business expense, and the staff don't get taxed for it.
ben_vulpes: except for the ones who are not and who don't want anything to do with my asbestos gloves.
ben_vulpes: the salesmen are also entirely interchangeable.
ben_vulpes: i have.
ben_vulpes: glorified secretarial work.
ben_vulpes: in bezzleland at least.
ben_vulpes: i think that i hate managing projects.
ben_vulpes: woof
ben_vulpes: certainly felt like it, driving across town to school and back every day.
ben_vulpes: great vans
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i grew up in a suburban
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'sold now' is not under consideration.
ben_vulpes: all the good cars have miserable lines.
ben_vulpes: hm.
ben_vulpes: what does 'korean' mean for build quality and lifetime?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: know anything about the honda passport model?
ben_vulpes: thank you pete_dushenski!
ben_vulpes: "the reason why cops call it the web is because, The online is a 'Web' of lies and/or Computers are Satans kingdom on earth"
ben_vulpes: "As always when a large group of people without prior exposure to Jace are introduced to his world, every single existing theory on his authenticity was brought up and discussed in great detail, as were questions concerning the state of mental health care in the United States, the situation of veterans, and the practicality of using a Prius in a street race." << ladies and gentlemen, i present...my peers in the eyes of american law.
ben_vulpes: AND NOW I BLESS THEE WITH THE HOLY BIGNUM THIS FUNCTION PASSES ALL AROUND ITSELF
ben_vulpes breathes through the nausea
ben_vulpes: fucking pointers and in place mutation
ben_vulpes: ugh cpp
ben_vulpes: need to read more. let's revisit tomorrow.
ben_vulpes: ah i see
ben_vulpes: will read more.
ben_vulpes: roger.
ben_vulpes: forgive further derpitude, but how on earth does `BN_CTX_get(ctx)` return two different values?
ben_vulpes still reading
ben_vulpes: okay, fLowS it is.
ben_vulpes: i get the conditional branching on the flag, but now how the identical code in the branches enforces high/low-s-ness
ben_vulpes: i may simply be exhausted, but i don't see immediately how the code inside the two branches is supposed to work
ben_vulpes: hey mod6
ben_vulpes: o/
ben_vulpes: i set you on the btcd snipe hunt aeons ago iirc
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380586 << this is my fault and i am terribly sorry
ben_vulpes: 'regenesis' << actually start over?!
ben_vulpes: WHY NOT WRITE A STYLE GUIDE WHILE WE'RE AT IT
ben_vulpes: 'scouring of spaces' means the tab-replacement?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-01-2016#1380503 << aye, to the extent that i 'learned cpp', and to the extent that i can even be said to 'know' any other programming language.
ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/21/an-historical-timeline-of-the-real-bitcoin-trb-development-part-ii/ << seconded for an in-depth discussion of the static build crapocalypse, and why we even bother with static builds anyways at the very least
ben_vulpes: goals being low tco, ease of finding parts and cost of maintenance hours.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski also, considering a jeep cherokee or a toyota land cruiser of 2000 and 89 vintage for babywagon, any thoughts on either?
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski aha, ty
ben_vulpes: clever enough to get in trouble.
ben_vulpes: heh clever
ben_vulpes waves to yves
ben_vulpes: aha, ms. smith made the log finally!
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: btw why do you prefer tabs to 4 spaces?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379662 << and how do you feel about mixed carriage returns and crlfs?
ben_vulpes: consistency of code shape is a thing for mortals like myself
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379618 << dunno about this. laborious for certain, and would make the whole thing 10x more likely to 'fit in head'.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379613 << strictly disallowed in my shop
ben_vulpes: mod6: didja ever share an actual patch for the code you're working on? brief face-grep through logs reveals nada
ben_vulpes: wth
ben_vulpes: > thought questions
ben_vulpes: only 'colour warz' i'm aware of are the preference of crackers for north africans over african americans
ben_vulpes: yes please
ben_vulpes: (or am i to understand etc etc)
ben_vulpes: jurov: you mean to say that you ditched evil-org for native org?
ben_vulpes: jurov: do you org-mode with evil-mode?
ben_vulpes: i rarely use arrow keys to navigate, preferring instead to search through the buffer
ben_vulpes: and did i read that mircea_popescu wants 'semantic extraction' built into emacs?
ben_vulpes: i use helm for buffer selection, and winner mode to get the windows back where they were.
ben_vulpes: window-jump and winner-mode make for...a not horrible experience.
ben_vulpes: jurov: y'ever try window-jump?
ben_vulpes: hey it's warm and concave
ben_vulpes: but do they call me isaac the banker?
ben_vulpes: i built those and five more just like them throughout the fertile crescent.
ben_vulpes: and you know the other one over in mecca?
ben_vulpes: you see that bank over there?
ben_vulpes: original sheepfuckers no doubt
ben_vulpes: hey man i have cohen markers i'll have you know
ben_vulpes: > sheep fuckers
ben_vulpes: i'm sure fails to measure up to mircea_popescu's discriminating eye in some way or another
ben_vulpes: some no doubt derpy bdsm get-together
ben_vulpes: woo
ben_vulpes: 8192 goddamn inodes
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: weird, i was under the impression they went to 'munches' on the coast
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu linked a lulzy story about rape fantasizers visiting those
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: hasn't found the sex addict 12-step groups yet?
ben_vulpes plugs ears, sings
ben_vulpes: NO
ben_vulpes: hey now trinque insanely long book of retarded rules says no fucking sheep, nobody fucked sheep that's racist
ben_vulpes: from these scrolls
ben_vulpes: trinque: danielpbarron has the /truth/ you see
ben_vulpes: phf: there can only be one!1
ben_vulpes imagines danielpbarron getting a hold of a mistranslation of other ancient texts, declaring fatwa
ben_vulpes: i guess you're right then
ben_vulpes: oh right those three letters
ben_vulpes: "higher power must mean what i mean by god, and so therefore HEWETICS"
ben_vulpes: you assume you know what they mean by higher power man
ben_vulpes: "o i dun need to talk to them, i read some ancient texts. this is how we do in my church so it's the right way to do things elsewhere."
ben_vulpes: for not actually talking to the practitioners
ben_vulpes: read just a skosh closer dude
ben_vulpes: i judge liberally
ben_vulpes: hypocritically how?
ben_vulpes: you're way over there in your church of self-righteous unexamined life, examining everyone else from a pillar of plugged ears and closed eyes.
ben_vulpes: you've not talked with twelve steppers about what 'higher power' means, how would you know.
ben_vulpes: you've not done the twelve steps, how would you know.
ben_vulpes: lookee, nobody cares.
ben_vulpes: "but it's not the twoooo gawwwwd!"
ben_vulpes: phf: they hear "higher power" and lose their shit.
ben_vulpes: so leave off
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: have you ever spent much time with the twelve steppers?
ben_vulpes: abdicating choice to someone/something that is "not you" lies at the heart of the thing.
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: it's a particular reprogramming that doesn't have much to do with the bible.
ben_vulpes: hail brodin
ben_vulpes is enjoying the bible vs. big book citation spats
ben_vulpes: wheymen
ben_vulpes: from the bikeportland followup: "Hagg said he thinks the solution to problems like that is to drive troublemakers away." << even the motherfucking /bums/ know that you have to drive the worthless fucks off if anyone's to have a decent party.
ben_vulpes: ahahaha
ben_vulpes: https://mentalfloss.atavist.com/secrets-of-the-mit-poker-course << intriqued to hear what the poker afficionados have to say
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah i see
ben_vulpes: it is a /brand/ name
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do please link
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you'd have a simple pour-over, not an immersion hybrid.
ben_vulpes: what we
ben_vulpes: what now, peers and mempool?
ben_vulpes: https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/abid/clever << were it not plastic the thing would be completely unbeatable
ben_vulpes bought a new clever and a new kettle for the new staffers today to parallelize the coffee production
ben_vulpes: 'not' also available in my office, which i suppose doesn't count because also 'my kitchen'
ben_vulpes knows the guy who invented the field-roasting technique
ben_vulpes: just takes a paint drying gun and some practice
ben_vulpes: wtf
ben_vulpes: and no you cannot roast them in your kitchen because you can't get the good shit because you don't buy by the teu
ben_vulpes: there is no artisanal anything, there are just a bunch of hipsters competing to roast beans well
ben_vulpes: you guys live in fucking zimbabwe
ben_vulpes: wine in "red" and "white
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform...lives in dc, probably thinks coffee comes in "burnt" and "not"
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform...is surprised?
ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, people updated the coffee wheel: http://images.food52.com/qBXzPyzi3HfbetOfl2hlyAD27xg=/fit-in/800x0/89ba51e4-860b-4d4e-b692-e19b15e224d4--SCAA_FlavorWheel.01.18.15.jpg
ben_vulpes: and blowjobs
ben_vulpes: that's what gibson and pynchon and heller are for
ben_vulpes: why do i even read this shit
ben_vulpes: lol bitcoin classic on slack
ben_vulpes: typically, and sort of.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: your choices are to either diddle screen rez or 'zoom' on browser, non?
ben_vulpes: there's something about working nearly alone as a sniper versus together with some people you don't really hate all that much as fuel convoy unit
ben_vulpes: "writing in languages i hate with people i love to be used by hominids i'd not waste a carrot on" or what was it
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2016#1377799 << curse of the bezzletron