(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://openssl.sourcearchive.com/documentation/0.9.8o-5ubuntu1/crypto_2ecdsa_2ecdsa_8h_a22916b9617edac877f99da5b78de7ce1.html#a22916b9617edac877f99da5b78de7ce1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ideally such a thread would result in a philosophical statement that'd guide future flags.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh come now asciilifeform like we don't waste time on vastly more trivial shit all the time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deck chairs.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a hard time giving a shit about the ergonomics when it's covered in finger-snipping blades already.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: why not?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i prefer my c++ as antagonistic as possible
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: appears to be a useful tool
(trilema) ben_vulpes looking forward to it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: approaching usable?
(trilema) ben_vulpes grimaces
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: loc?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: makes me sound like a great parent
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: unless the kid's up at 4 or whatever, i rarely actually interact with him.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: our timezones are so far off he just leaves me messages
(trilema) ben_vulpes: very interesting problems that crop up in the curation of the wot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i still love you vexual baby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: indeed!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ENTIRELY unrelated: http://thismighthurt.tumblr.com/post/137653621429/siren-school-by-isabella-rotman-buy-the-comic << girl sends this along
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at orbital heights no less
(trilema) ben_vulpes: freenode nicks are not crypto.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: coulda kept the nick, but registered a new key and we'd be in the same spot.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: polarbeard: hey can you confirm for the log that you understand what's going on with your various idents?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: planez!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd seen the photos from c2, 'twas how i knew you and mike_c
(trilema) ben_vulpes: same way everyone else singles you out of the crowd lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what if the person showing up is not actually the keyholder
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh that is an interesting hole in the keysigning party i guess
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how could i know, jurov! i never saw a keyid from you.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (while it may appear to /you/ that the mega participants in this cult are disembodied names, /we/ all know each other -- names, geographic locations, general type of employ, but /you/ do not have this [or i'll point out] any pedigree here)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and once again polarbeard /who are you/?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *and*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you'll note i'm not handing out 1's just for showing up any more.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: provisions are in place for noobs to fuck up and recover.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6, polarbeard, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu: y'all follow?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's not submitting patches any more, so i don't see the point of the discussion.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so polarbeard burned his previous identity by getting uppity with me. what of it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what harm'd there be in the reading i ask
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and who knows what else of interest might be in 'em
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: for lolz most definitely
(trilema) ben_vulpes: someone can show up tomorrow and claim to be tiberius, tat, smickles, and until they sign with keys that prove it they're either joking or some other thing i don't understand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, i don't quite care about 'statements against interest'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but register formal irritation re your inability or refusal to answer to inquiries such as http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384093
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and as specifically regards polarbeard, i am happy to review patches
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and given that the character's lost or whatevered those keys, i don't see any reason for a) that to change or b) influence how the wot regards polarbeard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so i've only negrated this punindented identity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what a deal, jurov!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'aha'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usg has a plenty strong relationship with me, lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well no, but i believe that i understand your point.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitwise identity
(trilema) ben_vulpes is having a 'not enough lsd' moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: laptop or bride, they'd be...separate physical instantiations of 'bride' or 'nut-frier'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no returns, no way to know if she's even minimally acceptable to spend time with, no way to know if she can suck cock...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a glib answer'd be "because steve died", a more pragmatic one "because they don't compile the bitcoin reference implementation", but i don't think either of those are what you're thinking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: I personally don't understand the reasons beyond "it's the right thing to do with the reference implementation, dummy. also, fuck drepper."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384173 << do you mean 'the full orchestra' as advertised on trb ml?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did anyone ever do a static compilation libkez?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do envy everyone the vast panoply of device families apparently covered.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i only had the opportunity to test it recently, failed to even build prerequsites and so cannot sign it. i also do not intend to build another openbsd system in the immediate future.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://jezebel.com/britney-spears-good-at-math-1747547324 << i have examined this and found it lulzy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also lol what /we/ who are /you/?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1383814 << if by external you mean: does not introduce further dependencies into the codebase, maybe, depending on the tool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: x.6 ~ 10.6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: it's been an alternative scheme for as long as i can remember
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still trying to get the hang of the m1a1, very much adrift in the cockpit of a warthog.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i have a hunch that it was my boost compiles that were failing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pick a side i said.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shit, i even reconsider the /past three years/ of toolchain investment on weekends like this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is weekends like this that make me reconsider how i spent my youth as a misspend, when i see trinque and asciilifeform with usable professional non apple toolchains
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but reference implementation? no, get fucked it said.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: openbsd at least installed, booted trivially, and ran emacs under x11.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shat elfs onto server for testing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: edited code in emacs, booted container for reference implementation builds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ftr i /have done this/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: guruvan: i am not running my primary os in a container, thank you very much.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that is how desperate i am to get off of os x.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: UBUNTU
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no you know what i have one more fence to piss upon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and el cap is second system shitgnomery incarnate
(trilema) ben_vulpes dd's the 10.6 installer onto the flash drive one last time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shoulda listened to trinque.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "software never fails" but the flesh apparently is very fucking weak.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: after five reboots in a row it just gives up!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol wut and now it simply refuses to boot!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: miserable fucking workflow.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: put gentoo in a vm for building ri's
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: at this rate imma completely give up and just run 10.6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i think i need to recompile the kernel
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i mean some bits of it work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: NOT YET LOL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: either that or i'm living a week in the future somehow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2016/01/24/drones-sono-finiti/#footnote_1_6779 << i swear to god i read this elsewhere recently
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: is this a 'freegan' thing?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;ud hackin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah all i need is the display manager, i'm going to use emacs for window mgmt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something that looks hella nineties would be top notch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for once in my short life i would like to not piss on a fence.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey does anyone have suggestions for a non-retarded display manager?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh i am still snickering about that one
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's usually the captions or contextuality of mircea_popescu's pr0n that gets me lolling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hahaha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all that aside, when i finally ditch this thing, i will preserve the shit that's already on disk.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i do not see what relationship the directory structure has to the things i have said, other than they expose the retarded toolchain i used to get them on the public net in the first place.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *cartman head wobble*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: move the files wherever i want
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i personally dgaf. it's my server.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought la serenissima's webfacists hated linkrot
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so what, i ditch current shitty static site generator and tell everyone who linked to shit previously to get fucked and find the new linxz?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why? people's links will break if i go back and add intervening footnotes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i fucking hate my webthing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hrm that reorder's the piece's footnotes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: footnote just for you, baby
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/23_money-trust-and-the-wild-wild-web-a-socioeconomic-history-of-ssl-or-that-green-lock-symbol-in-your-browser.html#fn.7
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i most certainly did!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the shit these reversers can do
(trilema) ben_vulpes mind boggles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this'd be hooks into running bitcoind memory space and such?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this is a wonder i would greatly like to see myself
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does tinyscheme couple into ri source?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: needs -q flags.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah, i ran into this.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: too goddamn funny.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay, phew.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah jeez
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the immediate implementation of a free bussing system"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that Oberlin College stop functioning as a gentrifying institution"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: DEMAND immediate firing of: ... Gerri Johnson...for their rude behavior towards Black Students
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "all employees be given healthcarea and insurance"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that the workload given to employees be reflective of their abilities...should not be given a workload that they cannot handle."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that each worker, temporary or permanent working for the College Dining Hall Services be given a meal every work shift"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that /is/ the demand.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why not 15? 20?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that Black student leaders be provided a[n] $8.20/hr stipend for their continuous organizing efforts around the well[-]being of Black people on Oberlin's campus, city and beyond" << man that is some low-dough shit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tenure for an artist in residence, nice
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i thought there'd be about another 5 years before things got this nutso
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not laughing i'm horrified
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !s compression
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND a 6% annual increase in grant offers vs. loan offers for Black Students"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: their coursework."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND that a mandatory professional development program be developed for faculty across departments in the College & Conservatory that will help facilitate their udnerstanding of the ways in which racial capitalism, settler colonialism, and other forms of violent oppression inform and shape instructional methods for the disciplinary content of their courses. We further DEMAND that the content of this information be integrated in
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND the renaming of these specific academic buildings"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: grades are racist!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND a change in the fundamental ways that we asses knowledge at this institution, starting with a student evaluation of the effectiveness of the grading system. We will have oversight over the results of that evaluation. If the results state that the grading system is not reflective of this institution's student body, we DEMAND an immediate change of that grading system."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woo hoo hoo fifteen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who goes to required freshmen events?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lol required events
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND an online database that outlines the deadlines, dates, and forms critical for the successful academic journey of Black students" because we can't be arsed to figure it out ourselves, read syllabi when they're handed out or at all, and because of course knowing to do all of the above is something we were not prepared for in life and this must be rectified at the expense of everyone else attending the school.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also looks like the storied Oberlin conservatory is about to turn into Rap Kollege
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "We DEMAND the inclusion of teachers and educators with auditory and relative business skills pertaining to contemporary Black musical styles." << relative business skills? what are those
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man i fucking hate my webshit.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh those are hardly even worth mentioning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a no fuck that lol
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i probably hosed something on that machine way before ever making it to building tri.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fwiw i completely failed to get the openbsd patch to work.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i swear that i'm referencing something mircea_popescu said with that line, but i'll be damned if i can find the original.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'd have probably done something ham-handed and just set the order for the given flag, which would be a bigger change to life-fire use than i think would be warranted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'tis a very surgical strike, if i'm reading correctly. only if the flag is set and the sig does not bear the correct order is order enforced.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: i do believe that i understand now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude, yes. transient, no.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at the bell even
(trilema) ben_vulpes: holy shit snsa listed in 2013
(trilema) ben_vulpes: am i missing an order of magnitude here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wow
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 87?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what, but the complexity of stack randomization /is/?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1379720 << surprisingly close read of the logs by...whom now?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: wut?
(trilema) ben_vulpes admittedly has difficulty pulling head out of workplace safety mindset
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, just giving the botmakers lurking a tip on how to automate the baitprocurement
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in reference to?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: waiwut?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oho i'm going to have a blast with those demands later
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty thestringpuller
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for someone reason vasalgel is being pushed as an alternative to risug
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dafuq is a deactivated weapon
(trilema) ben_vulpes: meanwhile found it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey totally valid business strategy under gosplan--get yer shit mandated for use
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's hilarious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ibd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mandatory? oh do cite plz
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in any event i'm long out of that line of work, and for good reason.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: i'd rather lose a blade than a finger.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the plastic guard is a joke, comes off at the first opportunity.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: they're fighting him because he kicked their ass on the licensing front
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://youtu.be/XVktVFyid-Y?t=150 << obligatory slo-mo sawstop
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mostly because the shaper is a 5hp terror of cutter-face that'll make you think seven times before even beginning to cut, whereas your friend's table saw doesn't have the sawstop that your *other* idiot friend bought.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382890 << you are actually far more likely to lose a hand on the table saw your friend keeps in the garage that he doesn't know how to teach you to use than planing something flat on the master's shaper.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably unresolved because we're coolies working oars with illusions of being graham's "six smart hackers in a room"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-01-2016#1382860 << recurring thread at $shop: encourage people to customize for personal ergonomics and efficiency or attempt to cultivate a standard environment for ease of collaboration on each other's devices?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: absurd waste of bits. photography is lossy, deal.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the flip side i do *not* store raw digital photos.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes, i store the negatives, wtf with this printed photo nonsense.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would pull down the negative books from that era but they're in the family fire-proof safe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: has since...02?
(trilema) ben_vulpes takes a lot of photos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: handy categorizer-of-photos-by-exif is probably the best justification for my continued use of it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: iphoto i'm sure will eventually fall to quest of removing toilets from places they should not be
(trilema) ben_vulpes: necessary is a stretch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gimp is not a thing on macos?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh the tits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i discovered my photo booth archives from freshman year
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh ho ho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that'd be photo booth
(trilema) ben_vulpes shakes head slowly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: open, see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i imagine you don't use iphoto
(trilema) ben_vulpes: O WELL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: huh shoulda fixed the date on that wotpost while i was at it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fluffypony: in the server room
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah it was punkman with the logs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fuck these people.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that starts up, shits 40gb of files to disk immediately while importing the classic 'iphoto' library, and has now been spinning on the import for 2 straight days now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other apple nyooz, 'el capitan' ships with a new program 'photos'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ain't hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from:mircea_popescu media.tumblr.com
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "no, honey, we're not going out. you cook better, plate better, and do it all in the nude. i am not paying for designer lights, too much salt, and shitty hipster wait staff drinking habits. plus you'll want to tip 20% for completely miserable service and i just got my shoes off."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay okay!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: my parents bought their current residence in...94? for 230k, are now batting away offers for 900+. i relent on the rounding error.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not trying to argue against the property bezzle!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh hilariously less
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 2% is a rounding error, not 20.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty routine to see 20% property value declines top to bottom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: portland goes through a boom-bust property cycle at about twice the frequency of the national market
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mas apartmentos y condos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: epic inventory hitting the market q4 2016 q2 2017
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh it's not going to last
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://www.kgw.com/news/local/micro-apartments-as-small-as-150-square-feet-nw-portland/4373570
(trilema) ben_vulpes: on the flip side i have a far better understanding of how linux machines boot now. so, not a particularly horrendous waste of time.
(trilema) ben_vulpes lets mircea_popescu say it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you neckbeards with a decade of setting up your own personal infrastructure have completely forgotten what it's like to be a clueless noob
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look here i only recently decided to move the toilet out of the kitchen okay
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably everone