mircea_popescu: so 70yo dude who's always, though thick and thin and half a dozen bankruptcies, ever since he was a wee tyke and his dad had to cosign his deals, aspired to be part of the you know, new york moneyed elite finally goes to the al smith diner. and gets to seat on the dais. and you know, he prepares for this. his speech, his own speech.
mircea_popescu: it's fucking incredible just how bad trump's speech writer was, by the way. dude's a reality tv star, like that jenner chick or whatever, you'd expect he'd come prepared to kill it.
mircea_popescu: (the pic is from the al smith diner, yest. this is a derpy thing trying to get the candidates to roast each other for catholic charities. ny libertard "elites" are very excited today about the fact that trump walked in not giving the slightest shit about their mores, and eschewed what in manhattan passes for "humour", aka http://trilema.com/2014/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: a very jolly fellow irl, no idea why he looks so forced-laughing there.
asciilifeform: this is rather like trying to guess which fungus will eat an aids sufferer.
mircea_popescu: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/10/21/111701348_Hillary_Trump_top_foreign-large_trans++faglMYeke2FdVtM7pecRgqZZ4XO6YMBIM0m8aUTtExs.jpg << dude who the everloving fuck lives like this ?!
asciilifeform: 'he worries that the lack of trust is dangerous. It is one thing to not trust government, but quite another to doubt the election process. “Then the entire premise of democracy comes into question,” she said.'
mircea_popescu: 63% think he raped someone at some point ; 62% want him to be president. presumably the missing 1% doesn't like the dearth of pics ?
mircea_popescu: teh libertards are basically playing twister in the "situation room"
mircea_popescu: "Donald Trump gained on Hillary Clinton among American voters this week, cutting her lead nearly in half despite a string of women accusing him of unwanted sexual advances and the furor over his disputed claims that the election process is rigged, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday."
mircea_popescu: this is the first time i hear of non-starving yet un-famous graphical artists doing a lot of quality work for no upfront fee of their own, anarcho-syndicalist volition.
mircea_popescu: anyone can explain how the cryptoart "purveroys of fine art papeer wallets" can afford to blow what looks like a >10k budget on google advertising ?
shinohai: I should have qntra'd that story just for the title "Bitfinex Begs Burgler for Bitcoins Back"
shinohai: I guess the token scheme isn't working as planned.
asciilifeform: wait, they stopped?!
mircea_popescu recalls the not so distant days a coupla years ago when these imbeciles were masquerading as bidnismen with suits and secretaries and who is mp./
mircea_popescu: all i see is a bunch of outsiders trying to impress with their reading.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2016/10/21/is-so-unfair-cycle-3/ << Bingo Blog - Is So Unfair Cycle 3
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: We may have invitit a few of them, but they seem to spring up like weeds
pete_dushenski: !#s cathedral
asciilifeform: eh it's old hat in the 'wetlands' racket
mircea_popescu: of the us courtly sort.
ben_vulpes: https://gcaptain.com/the-feds-wont-buy-this-19-million-stealth-boat-or-let-it-be-sold-abroad << lulzy tech interdiction
mircea_popescu: http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Nick%20Land/%281988%29%20LAND%20--%20Kant_%20Capital_%20and%20the%20Prohibition%20of%20Incest.pdf << sauce if anyone gives a shit. in pdf because ofcourse.
mircea_popescu: will continue to look bleak. For it is only when the pervasive historical bond between masculinity and war is broken by effective feminist violence that it will become possible to envisage the uprooting of the patriarchal endogamies that orchestrate the contemporary world order . . . But the only conceivable end of Kantianism is the end of modernity, and to reach this must foster new Amazons in our midst"
mircea_popescu: "Victorious third world struggles, so long as they have been successfully localized, do not lead to realistic post-capitalist achievements, and certainly not to post-patriarchal ones, since the conversation of the form of the nation state is itself enough to guarantee the reinsertion of a society into the system of inhibited synthesis. For as long as the dynamic of guerrilla war just leads to new men at the top . . . History
phf: phantomjs out of the box is almost there, except it doesn't give you locations to where page dependencies were stored in local cache. but the approach ensures that anything that can be rendered using a modern browser can also be archived
phf: they are using Qt webkit integration, either through a hacked up version of phantomjs, or something handwritten. there's enough hooks in qt, that you can figure out what was loaded, where it got stored in local cache and where it's being used.
mircea_popescu: phf that's pretty major. how does he do it then ?
pete_dushenski: a 'dark enlightenment' character by the name of 'alrenous' also found his way to the contravex comments for a while. bought a year-and-a-half ago now. decent enough to carry a convo but hardly limitless depth there.
asciilifeform: iirc we tried to get the horse here
mircea_popescu would muchly appreciate a crash course in dark enligthement from the very horse's mouth.
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/tqQBL << 'new yorker' soils pants in face of trump, tmsr, other t-words. blames nazis, obv. bit of a snore really.
mircea_popescu: did anyone ever invite the fellow over ?
asciilifeform: loads of these.
mircea_popescu: prompted by all this discussion, i find "More recently, Land has been a primary theorist and the namer of the Dark Enlightenment, a neoreactionary movement that opposes egalitarianism.[5] The Dark Enlightenment supplies philosophical underpinnings to the alt-right.[6]"
phf: i figured out how archive.is is doing their archiving by the way, i'm taking a stab at implementing it
asciilifeform: ^ arbitrary crud over satellite, but the receiver is the familiar rtl-sdr, that everyone already has.
asciilifeform: https://outernet.is/tech << entirely unrelated, and lulzy, and i do dare suspect that they read the l0gz
asciilifeform: (the talker died some years ago)
mircea_popescu: hence the whole "nobody could have predicted" shtick.
mircea_popescu: then again i guess humanity is principally defined by a propensity to make the worst possible move.
mircea_popescu: it's the worst possible move.
phf: asciilifeform: well, like mircea_popescu said above it's not about thiel, it's about whether or not he gets to hang out with rando progre attention whores. of course it doesn't work that way and i don't know why he would want to, but i wouldn't be surprised if in his mind it does. my impression is that he's visibly trying to morph from stormfront "must read litrecha" section to a kind of "let's discuss human nature, surely we all agree"
mircea_popescu: who wants to trade the undefined upside for a fixed payment ? fuck that, inverse insurance, really ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, leaving appearance aside, his position is shockingly idiotic. on one hand he gives away the stuff that matters (yes, for god damn sure most of human population, of either sex, gender, race, ethnicity, whatever belongs in bondage. doh) in exchange for not exactly clearly what the fuck, not like rando progre attention whore is now going to be best pals with him and blow him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a difference between "not great orator&photomodel" and uncanny fucking valley, however.
asciilifeform: looking ridiculous is not imho a mortal sin, i also cannot claim to be great orator, or photomodel. but i never try to do these things, do not go around plastering self-portraits, or dance on stage.
mircea_popescu: i'm starting to understand why the various philipinos were so jizzed up over those videos of mine they fished up. "oh, ALL these dorks look like dorks so we can just pretend this guy does too!"
phf: he probably realized his position is not going to earn him any favours with the aparatchiks, so he's trying to morph himself into chomsky "what exactly ~is~ racism, khmmm mmm, seeee"
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 19:23 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as hussein.bahamas@whitehouse.org without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
asciilifeform: (watched the film ?)
mircea_popescu: i thought they all were.
pete_dushenski: wasn't 8chan the kkk one ?
mircea_popescu: they're gonna start posting his outline in 4chan
a111: Logged on 2016-05-01 17:40 mircea_popescu: anyway, to bridge this discussion with the kaiser wilhelm "disappeared" daily telegraph interview discussed last week :
pete_dushenski: since we're doing entemology, this keeper's from the 'other' bitcoin news site : http://archive.is/HQM7m
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: the one with the mercedes. aha. or the one with the guitar bridge. either way.
mircea_popescu: mebbe, but i dun see this one coming. just look at history of previous russian empire ; first they had lenin, then they had stalin, then they had that idiot what's his name.
pete_dushenski: even the obvious benefits from fleshed out blogs. see credit cards.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 00:47 mircea_popescu: anyway, if mining is a bug, then the philosopher king is a backdoor.
pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-21#1557575 << this is seriously intriguing framing. can't wait for trilema on the subj.
phf: it was good timing switching to hand curated hosts file, because i've been informed whole of the internet is down or something
mircea_popescu: not the same!
mircea_popescu: well look on the bright side : now that you stepped away from it we can finally joke about it.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought you two'd be buttbuddies when i ran into him. i'm genuinely surprised you don't already know each other.
ben_vulpes: so i dunno, you'll get it in another month?
mats: it took a couple hours for both of these to run
mircea_popescu: mats coverage is good ; and these we didn't have.
mats: is there a particular os you are trying to test?
mircea_popescu: THERE IS AN IMPOSTEUR IN OUR MIDSTS!
mircea_popescu: wtf where is the ben vulpes you know and what did you do to him
ben_vulpes: i have been trying to avoid importing the whole internet
asciilifeform: ty mats -- where were these from
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part about that package is that it actually sends (and delivers!) emails from arbitrary email address. i've been sending as hussein.bahamas@whitehouse.org without complaint, gmail inboxes, the works.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, things move fast in the reddit era.
mircea_popescu: anyway, how's things states-side ? everyone bracing down for the inevitable bombing campaigns of the russian-iranian coallition joint "peacekeeping" missions once the democratically elected president is deposed by a military junta led by an ex-wife of an ex-president ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's funny, you know, "why should i dump everything and worship the gringo ?" "because his women live two to the apartment rather than eight."
mircea_popescu: the occasionally buyer of local cunt. these are oscillating between very amused and utterly infuriated.
mircea_popescu: they were also defrauded.
mircea_popescu: these can also be students hoping to acquire the official letters patent and become middle class
mircea_popescu: these can be workers hoping to make it in the great urban village with its supposed "vida de noche" etc. they were defrauded.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh were you asking who pays the rents ?
mircea_popescu: i guess they must.
asciilifeform: these, supposedly, exist, but ~only in usa, fed on red meat..
asciilifeform: well evidently not yet enough by their lights, if order is 'Moar Soy'
asciilifeform: motherfucking bioweapon-masquerading-for-food
mircea_popescu: soy being the ~only serious product of the argentine. who seriously expects to live like europeans on the basis of farming.
mircea_popescu: oh : and soy is down in chicago, and is trending down, and the chinese announced they're dropping 20% of maize to plant more soy in mainland china.
mircea_popescu: the itch
mircea_popescu: anyway. the girls wanna marry, the boys dun wanna live with the inlaws, the old folks don't want to move to the old folks' home at 44 (you should see a) how many of those they have here, must be over 5k distinct old folks homes and b) how many of these stupid cunts are saddled with 2-3 kids aged 20something and looking for a new mate. bitch, seriousy ? go suck your babby momma's cock, you're off the market) and the girls got
mircea_popescu: because they're about as bright as earthworms ?
mircea_popescu: they have ~500k units privately held by ~3mn owners in bizarro clan arrangements, and virtually no commercial rental market to speak of.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone. this is the profile of middle class argentinian family : unemployed man que es letrado (=with a law degree, never practiced) + homemaker and their teenaged 2.2 kids, living off a) the man's income from governmental sinecures + the woman's income from her parents' appointed dowry in the shape of real estate. this is it.
asciilifeform: who are the renters?
mircea_popescu: not like the average "middle class" (in his mind only) argentine has any other resources besides renting out an apartment and expecting govt payola for his university "education". neither of which look too good at the moment.
mircea_popescu: the ~only hope to maintain the pretense is by putting a lot of pressure on the monetary supply. so... they will.
mircea_popescu: sales are down to nothing, the people are utterly desperate for food and other basics. girls still wanna marry, this year like all others. etc.
mircea_popescu: the real estate market is holding by a thread. to understand each other : in the same country where the bumpkins imagine real estate goes by 1000-1500 usd per sq meter, they have SERIOUS problems over xmas bonus worth 2000 pesos (~120 dollars), to the point it's a major topic of televised debates.
mircea_popescu: seeing how the other, with expatriated goods, ends in march, i would expect the reasonable time for argentina to faceplant in the mud would be about april.
mircea_popescu: this generous measure of voluntary self-rape "ends" on 31st, after being extended a coupla times. meanwhile the govt has been piling on debt at about 2x the rate of the kirscheristas.
mircea_popescu: and in other news nobody gives a shit about : the argentine govt announced an "amnesty" whereby idiots with cash in strongboxes/matresses etc can "blanquear" it, by depositing it in a bank and paying 11% in tax ("to begin with"). same applies to foreign holdings.
asciilifeform: (other than raise the friction to the point where ~nobody can ~ever be arsed to use it)
mircea_popescu: i contacted the author, but he's not bothered to write back, so whatevs. would be a useful service for teh republic it seems to me.
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you could just lift the whole https://github.com/ruffrey/mailsac package.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno of a pill other than replicating the service and closing it to non-l1
asciilifeform: and, https://freedom-to-tinker.com/2016/10/21/bitcoin-is-unstable-without-the-block-reward << the loltron in question.
trinque: every piece of shit on the web was apparently using dyn?
ben_vulpes: you install mamp on one macbook and the whole internet goes down
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:11 :: But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: [KJV] Matthew 19:10 :: His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
jhvh1: danielpbarron: ERROR: Failed to load/parse the verse or page. Check your syntax.
shinohai: I rather like `A misfortunate fellow named Rex had a vanishingly small sex. Once charged with exposure he replied with composure "De minimus non curat lex." `
trinque: There was a young sailor from Brighton who once told his girl "You're a tight one." She replied, "`Pon my soul, you're in the wrong hole. There's plenty of room in the right one." << also gold
BingoBoingo: "To fight the evil patriarchy a young hussy barebacked a darky. The result of their sins were quadruplets, not twins : one black, one white and two khaki." << roflmao
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/if-a-family-by-the-name-broderick-had-a-son-an-they-named-him-roderick-could-he-in-turn-without-concern-eschew-naming-his-daughter-limerick/ << Trilema - If a family by the name Broderick had a son an' they named him Roderick could he in turn, without concern, eschew naming his daughter Limerick ?
mircea_popescu: can't leave "\the country"
asciilifeform: i'd naively picture that if d00d made up his mind to plunder the crown jewels, he would have an escape plan (even if nonsensical, like, e.g., carl force's) in his head. but no.
mircea_popescu: no, just, idiot born in the us, doesn't comprehend how utterly irrelevant it is. because "THE COUNTRY"
mircea_popescu: usians are weird about "The country"
asciilifeform: btw i doubt that it would take otto skorzeny and his merry men, to break martin out of the clink. if he were 'valuable', as prosecutor alleges, he would already be in moscow.
asciilifeform: 'When confronted with specific marked documents he had stolen, only then did the Defendant begin to admit that: (1) he had taken documents and digital files that he knew were classified from his work assignment to his residence and vehicle, and (2) he knew such actions were unauthorized and wrong. He also admitted that he had committed these crimes regularly over many years.'
mircea_popescu: the defense is still ironclad. that they stick him in jail anyway is entirely their problem.
mircea_popescu: these are different matters.
asciilifeform: eh if he had no wife, it'd be some other rat.
mircea_popescu: "so how come it's there ?" "you planted it" no we didn't" "mkay"
asciilifeform: found with the stash
asciilifeform: dunno that there is a defense. the penal code article he was arrested under is a 'strict liability'.
mircea_popescu: if they did or if they didn't, the "i had nothing to do with it" defense is ironclad as far as that goes.
asciilifeform: (whereas he was caught in some other way, e.g. by a politruk.)
asciilifeform: they created - for him.
asciilifeform: re: 'cloud', imho the hypothesis that ~this was~ the parallelconstruction, cannot be dismissed.
asciilifeform: the defense's affidavit (included) was also lulzy, evidently they had 1-3 of these per year, none were publicized. this time they needed a public scapegoat, so.
mircea_popescu: stupidity is the occam selection.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/dyn-dns-suffers-packet-inflation-many-other-services-affected/ << Qntra - Dyn DNS Suffers Packet Inflation, Many Other "Services" Affected
mircea_popescu: because bread and butter stuff gets them ?
asciilifeform: gotta be a deliberate taunt to the audience.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun get why they even mentioned 'cloud', it gave the card trick away in, srsly, 30 seconds of my reading
asciilifeform: so the sentence would go 'prosecutors forget to parallel construct that ... martin's mistake wasn't ... cloud'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they've got real sloppy with it, partly because nobody buys it anyway, partly because bureaucrats are deeply uncreative (in this case, practically : affraid of "revealing" shit through the pc. as if they actually had something left to reveal.)
asciilifeform: which afaik the prosecutor has not yet spewed forth.
mircea_popescu: they evidently don't know what's in [at least some] of them. however they do know who he is. metadata.
asciilifeform: but 'parallel construct' means the creation of some smoke screen
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: He used cloud storage apps so his mistake was trusting them? Even if he was dumping encrypted blobs.
BingoBoingo: tyvm alf for the find
asciilifeform: ey’ are inside the perimeter. . . I’ll leave you with this: if you don’t get obnoxious, obvious, and detrimental to my future, then I will not bring you ‘into the light’, as it were. If you do, well, remember that you did it to yourselves. The antipathy demonstrated in this letter raises grave concerns about the Defendant’s intentions and potential actions should he be released.'
asciilifeform: ec [computer security]. Thanks. You made me a much better infosec [information security] practitioner. In exchange, well, I gave you my time, and you failed to allow me to help you... You are missing most of the basics in security practice, while thinking you are the best. It’s the bread and butter stuff that will trip you up. Trust me on this one. Seen it.... Dudes/Dudettes, I can’t make this any plainer... Listen up . . . ‘Th
asciilifeform: 'In a review of the digital information seized from the Defendant, the government found a letter, apparently created in 2007, which was addressed to government employees with whom he worked, and signed “Hal.” In the letter, the Defendant refers to his co-workers as “clowns” and criticizes the government’s digital security measures: Well, for one thing, I’ve seen pretty much all your tech secrets wrt [sic] regard to compus
asciilifeform: (for folks who have not heard of this show trial - harold martin worked at nsa-tao and was arrested for, supposedly, taking the contents home by the crate.)
asciilifeform: funny how they put the 'cloud storage' in the bail denial affidavit, but have not yet even bothered to parallelconstruct some reason ~other than it~ for how the d00d could have been caught.
asciilifeform: 'There is evidence that he has remote data storage accounts and has engaged in encrypted communications. The Defendant also had encrypted communication and cloud storage apps installed on his mobile device.' << mega-lel.
asciilifeform: 'The Defendant has also communicated online with others in languages other than English, including in Russian, and in June 2016 downloaded information regarding the Russian language as well as other foreign languages.' << mega-crime
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: Said Miguel to the gringo, "Senor, eef I open thees here closet door an' dee lady eenside ees my leetle lost bride then I theenk I mus' leek'er some more."
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, if your name was broderick and you had a daughter, how could you not name her limerick.
mircea_popescu: heh the ai-nsfw crap is almost amusing.
trinque: same mistake every single time. they have imperial aspirations, yet they apparently have no idea how to do this? you don't destroy the whole power structure in a place; you *take* it
trinque: reminds me of a documentary I watched recently on chicago. a young black gang member says more or less "they killed all the gang leaders, and then everything collapsed"
phf: asciilifeform: hey you mind greping for the first log entry, "just looked at chart... shit... a couple hours can be an eternity in bitcoin land" and see what time you have?
ben_vulpes: there was a screensaver that did this as well
asciilifeform: pure 'genetic algo'. pick the 'more fun', times 1,001...
asciilifeform: unfortunately none of the output - survived.
asciilifeform: at last, the ancient dream. pornoshannonizer.
ben_vulpes: best lolz i found on the web all day.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> everything's a coin. << AHA, the Qntra "altcoin" tag
mircea_popescu: the history thereof is interesting - dems were actually a pretty respectable party back when democratic meant something ; then the progressive cripple showed up and smashed it.
mircea_popescu: i don't see he has any way to extricate himself from sending ~half the dem party machine to jail
trinque: people talk about him killing the republican party but if anything that's rumbling about the clinton foundation is true, and he wins, it's going to kill both
trinque: hell, when the hairdo's justice department gets done with them, who'll be left to run their machine? I guess after that it's bernie 2.0
mircea_popescu: because when they do it, it's all good. just when others do it it's "an attack on our democracy"
mircea_popescu is pretty happy at all this "oh noes, trump won't promise to admit defeat if he loses", because all signals point to a complete rehash of the brexit thing, whereby clinton is credited with ~50% of popular vote and 55% of electoral colege, but realises 35% of popular vote and 30% of electoral college.
trinque: guy later said, "I'll respect the results if I win"
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, jamelle bouie (slate "chief political correspondent", if you didn't give a shit before) along with everyone else is damned pissed at trump. "The act of conceding, in other words, is vital to the functioning of democracy. It confers legitimacy on the winner of an election, giving him or her a chance to govern. To refuse to concede, to deny that legitimacy, is to undermine our democratic foundations."
asciilifeform: he has slightly nonstandard ACHE and number of other ferments.
asciilifeform: quite likely the current crop of miners is already this.
asciilifeform: (in the end you get sarin-resistant mice. this is not even a physical impossibility, iirc mongoose needed an elephant's dose to fall down)
mircea_popescu: or whatever other equivalent, that dumb bitch who was born a dude and tried to run off with coreboot
mircea_popescu: yes, but the problem mining solves is very strictly "make it impossible for hillary to pretend she matters"
asciilifeform: (tru story! ru chemistry students would occasionaly make, e.g., sarin, as a very effective answer to... rats, mice, whatever else infested the cellar..)
a111: Logged on 2016-03-06 15:01 asciilifeform: or we can lift from a mircea_popescu article, 'Another aspect is that new blocks are mined by one group (miners) but have to be stored in perpetuity by another group (nodes). This creates a situation where X (users) pay Y (miners) to inconvenience Z (nodes), which is unsustainable not to mention sheer nonsense.'
trinque: seems relationship is the conduit over which money flows; deciding one day that arteries shall be blood because after all they're so related...
trinque: anyhow it's an interesting idea, but I figure wild redefinitions of money run the risk of angering the gods.
asciilifeform: a certain qty of 'ob' from, e.g., brothel, could indeed refer to a certain number of litres of spooje swallowed, etc.
asciilifeform: unless it is a 'gossiptronic coin', as discussed earlier, but the applicability of the name 'coin' is then questionable
mircea_popescu: because it works with a market, which is the definition of centralization, "all good things flow to the city [to participate in the marketplace]"
mircea_popescu: then how does coin work ?
mircea_popescu: not in the sense of "unethical to do so", but in the sense of practically impossible.
trinque: there's no center in what I described
asciilifeform: 'The Web of Trust is not, as the name would seem to imply, an oilfield in which trust plays the role of oil, and you deploy some apparatuses and other devices to extract the trust therewith.'
asciilifeform: trinque: http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it << oblig.
trinque: a gentleman's weight according to his ratings in the wot determine the rate at which coin mints to his key
mircea_popescu: but no, think : the vertical monitor.
trinque: maybe that gossipcoin, but what of the one where coins exist, are minted according to position in the wot-graph?
mircea_popescu: and yes, cars can and do crash all the time
mircea_popescu: no, the problem is that the only way to find out "couldn't" is by their crashing it, and the whole construction has a low crash tolerance.
asciilifeform: to briefly go up the stack, 'gossipcoin' is not useless by virtue of being a mach10 jet. i cannot fly it. but it is conceivable that mircea_popescu could. and/or, folks not even yet born, could.
mircea_popescu: there is some of that, of course.
asciilifeform: how did it go, 'horse that can count to five is a remarkable horse, but not a remarkable mathematician'
mircea_popescu: this is mostly because of deliberate stupidification - by clerics in the east, by "educators" ie clerics in the west.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding all the insistence grown man is usually seen putting in avoiding it
mircea_popescu: they're still things grown man could learn,
mircea_popescu: so they do. but not THAT far.
asciilifeform: and, eh, 'v', or trb, or various other items contemplated here, fall much closer to the jet than to the tv set.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, sure, it was a cancer on top of an avorton. but this doesn't change the fact that even if you cleaned up the tumor, you'd have an aborted fetus.
mircea_popescu: this would be the ultimate in assembly line phding
mircea_popescu: i did not like ripple, as i don't like this, because it requires a level of financial acumen that is not available in the general population
asciilifeform: sorta how fiatola works already at the sovereign level.
asciilifeform: trinque: it was a crackpot algo which i suggested, ages ago, where there is no objective coin, but instead, e.g., mircea_popescu can mint any amount (with the total base being public) of mircea_popescucoin, which in turn trinque accepts for certain rate of trinquecoin, etc, etc., integrated with wot
mircea_popescu: trinque the whole reason wot and forum are at the basis of republic is this orthogonality which reinforces the bit-coin
asciilifeform: trinque: see the 'multiverse gossipcoin' old thread
mircea_popescu: much like the medieval eu "here's three weirs and a village fulla sluts. you're a knight now."
mircea_popescu: you got however much worth of koku production. well there yo ugo.