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(trilema) ben_vulpes: and our covered wagons aren't even hauled by oxen any more but horse
(trilema) ben_vulpes: we have /electricity/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: re: codebabez you should totally come visit sometime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and not worry about the delicate internals
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if it's made of METAL i want to HIT PEOPLE WITH IT
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i give precisely zero fucks about lightweight laptops.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am a barbarian though and it must be my fault somehow for expecting my tools to be robust
(trilema) ben_vulpes: leading edge just torso-ward of the hands starts chipping after some time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty standard decomposition pattern i think now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it has *chips* out of it asciilifeform, thank you for asking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i hate this thread
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey i was hacking all am
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doubt i'll get to it today tho
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: V in V!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: entertaining feller.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: haha BingoBoingo has it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: they usually get shitcanned shinohai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: i was thinking about a deadbot- !
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps i see a glimmer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ah
(trilema) ben_vulpes tries to reconcile 'lord can have seat back for asking' with the booting of fluffypony and nubbins`
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it ain't april yet shinohai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: what kind of patch are you shipping? ri patch or v patch?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: AMERICAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: diana_coman: eurozone?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: and you know that public school in america is just daycare.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have a completely unbacked theory that the further you go down the american income/class ladder the more girls you'll get in those classes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: public school?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and mats with tits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: press a patch without hashes in the headers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey mod6 here's an edge case for you
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and the tits!
(trilema) ben_vulpes is open to being sold, grew up in america after all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: legendarily long lead time for feedback here, just getting ahead of things.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm not sold on diana_coman
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell artifexd yo it's going to be much harder to get back in than it will be to preserve your seat now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nearly 42 weeks now.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen artifexd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sure yeah people have been inquiring politely for...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: more to the point with artifexd he bit off gossipd, claimed progress, and then vanished.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thrice cursed!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ill meaning!
(trilema) ben_vulpes waves at alf's diddling
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but no, not imho.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, "need".
(trilema) ben_vulpes: draw the graph, it's a useful exercise.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if instead a v implementation presses each patch in the flow...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: from the desired head to press, it doesn't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if a v implementation recurses up from the pressed head, it doesn't.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: PeterL: the list of patches gets alphasorted before toposorting in all implementations i've seen to date.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and its implicit use in pressing.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: this alphabetical sorting of patches in v flow grates on me for some reason i'm struggling to articulate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good porn name, that.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_driver
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no no i think those are different
(trilema) ben_vulpes: something is amiss
(trilema) ben_vulpes: doesn't that get you on some kind of vile criminal list in canada?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_dior
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_d_out
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_dushenski
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ahaha mircea_popescu yours is funny too!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other news we call this occasionally-accumulating infant smegma "neck cheese" because mothers milk comes back up as ricotta
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hair splinters for everyone
(trilema) ben_vulpes: paging mod6 to the preactor control room
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in line with my thinking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bitcoin/src/json/LICENSE.txt
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who is john w. wilkinson and is there any reason to keep his json spirit license around?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: macbook macht frei
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i need a workstation for doing work, and a comms box for doing comms.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not irc on the train?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i for instance just bought three of the things, but only because of the Apple Developer Ratchet
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not apple stockholm i suppose nearly so much as usa stockholm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: takes a rather lot to override apple-scale stockholm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: blockchain inclolded
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the thing has like 4 girls online atm
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hurt Naphex' feelings with the camho piece?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh anyways i just cracked xotika, picked a random feed and whaddaya know the last frame of the bloomberg video that autoplayed itself is superimposed on this poor girl's face
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yo what happened with xotika?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen naphex
(trilema) ben_vulpes: faux patriotism routine makes me fucking retch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what the fuck is this "tongue slipped"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aka racial discourse kittens
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mountain ponies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: supberb* owl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the superb owl impends, and the girls need a hand hefting cakes and buckets of wangs
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, i now return you to your regularly scheduled programming
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well, works.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2016#1399016 << where do the provided explanations fall flat?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: thank you for the rewriting and clarification on why vdiff doesn't on macos.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-02-2016#1399000 << in the sense that most everything i read here gets filed away and pops up unexpectedly elsewhere. but no, not explicitly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: izzat a coon pun?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: if you don't show up in the forum, marshall hoplits on demand, are you still a senator?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: dude he has like three
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes but /inclusion in the lordship/ for that?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't intend this as an attack on mthreat, trying only to tease out the logic.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'running ok' is the criteria?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i also don't quite know what mthreat's doing in there beyond running search and being a known usg antagonist.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha precisely what i was asking.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also does lordship survive termination of corporeal instantiation?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: traverser and *myriad* other contributions.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i propose excising artifexd from the lordship, and i further propose adding phf to it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen diametric
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen artifexd
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen dignork
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;seen mthreat
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nigga you think i keep shit in my head that computers remember for me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: o wait this'd be the canonical list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i dunno i'm not diffing your html with my face
(trilema) ben_vulpes: right, and given the extremely long lead time for review around here i want to kick the conversation off now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you proposed changes, but i'm not seeing those changes cemented anywhere.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: as in publish your next lordship list
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-lordship-list/ << mircea_popescu did you ever finalize this?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: maqp: where does the handle come from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the world just didn't know it yet!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you're now a terrorist
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welcome maqp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > now who's Markus Ottela << lol hey buddhi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't actually do that please.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: echo "keyid format 0xlong" >> ~/.gnupg.conf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'keyid format 0xlong'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's a 'print from GPG' setting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's the full-length fp
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: that would explain why i john kerry all over them
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well in that case
(trilema) ben_vulpes: https://archive.is/zfBPO << oh so that's what happened to c4
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey one post slightly more frequently than every week for two years
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm still a dumb sucker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: remember when mircea_popescu liked to troll people into starting blogs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty BingoBoingo
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (month late, only looked it up today)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: happy second birthday, cascadianhacker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform, phf, punkman: feedback greatly appreciated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the clicking
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but good god
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and can *almost* run down objective c weirdness on my own when qa'ing others' work
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although i do drive-by javascript debugging pretty well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mwell i don't really 'get to' code except for tmsr any more
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thank you, adlai
(trilema) ben_vulpes: well that's a helluva shortcut
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am not ready for the tildenightmare
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh man adlai i didn't even know i was looking for that
(trilema) ben_vulpes: punkman: either 1/10 troll or you have better repl foo than my incompetent self and should share this wisdom
(trilema) ben_vulpes: usually all i'm curious about is 'why is *that* implementation dependent?!'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: however i don't see myself doing that any time soon, and sicp is...somewhat higher on the list.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adlai: noted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: man is anyone from X3J13 still alive at this point?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "the spirit of stallman compels you!"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thank you for the 6 pairs of 'ai' that you saved me from typing over the next month
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also thank you for the link to chapter six.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: was adlie one of yours?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'll take cab funpletion over dick blocks any day
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adlai: a) i am annoyed that someone has coopted your 3 letters of tab completion and never says anything in here b) monthly averages and standard deviations of transaction fees as percentage of total miner subsidy would be far more informative
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who is this aquentin again?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: > sending a supremely strong message to all
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thanks adlai
(trilema) ben_vulpes has to step out, apologies for asking at an beforehand-unknowably-importune moment
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and 'loop for black belts' has a limited set of recipes.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: clhs keeps failing me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: where can i get my hands on complete documentation for the loop macro?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for's rebind, with's do not?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (and wouldja share if so?)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adlai: do you know how to rebind a var to a specific value at the beginning of every iteration through a loop in cl?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: have you shared something from which suggestions might bloom?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: link to original?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: although the scene with the two ancient earth babes was amusing in how solidly it failed the bechdel test
(trilema) ben_vulpes: kinda hate ancient earth babe
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *closed* *wontfix*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: craps down 'false' instead of *hash*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also of note vdiff does not work under macos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: stupidities in the approach.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395703 << so here's what my (unreleased, v2) vtron does: it grabs all patches and all sigs, merges them into an alphabetically sorted list, and then munches through that list attaching sigs whose name matches the previous patch to that patch. is this a blindingly stupid thing to do? i realize that it depends implicitly on the naming convention, but would like to hear about other unrealized
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ;;later tell asciilifeform ^^ i believe that i understand how vdiff works, if you'd confirm, i'd appreciate.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: keep in mind that awk is acting on the text output of diff, it's not recursing anywhere
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh because that's in the context of the awk statement and the file path is the second entry in that context?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: how is it disambiguated from $2, which is the dir input to diff?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ asciilifeform, mod6, phf, polarbeard, mircea_popescu: if any of you are willing to explain the inscrawkutable vdiff to my maleducated self i'd be much obliged
(trilema) ben_vulpes: C'EST UN MYSTERE
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yeah i basically have nfi how vdiff is making the per-file hashes happen
(trilema) ben_vulpes: (also ascii_rear i am having trouble understanding how vdiff turns $2 [which i'd expect to be the dir] into individual files for hashing and writing into the vpatch)
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_rear: i recall reading in the log that your vtron's implicit pressing behavior is asciibetical up to indicated head, but i'm having trouble reconciling that with other reqs i once read: that vs press longest chain, and also that vs press all usable patches. would that accurately modify to 'longest chain up to indicated head'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: plz no bully :(
(trilema) ben_vulpes: perhaps though i would jump out of a plane with a mispacked parachute?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't see how this is anything other than busy work, if i'm to curate the patchdir for presses anyways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ascii_rear: ah.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: adlai: just out of curiosity, do you have historical mempool data?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: proportional to the time off
(trilema) ben_vulpes: all i care about is some warning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i count...six?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: today in imgurlols: "Unknown file type application/octet-stream"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "In Washington, the committee is known as the ATM, because banks and hedge funds shower the chairman with contributions."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: do you also try to find where the pictures on tumblr come from?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: who could ever know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thought it might've indicated some difference in threads for archival/archaeology and emphemera
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: is this return to copying of loglines instead of referencing the log an attempt to make life easier for the future archaeologists by not polluting the global threadspace?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no idea if that one's going to
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shinohai: something like that could murder the google apps system
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not a pressing question.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6: if pressing is intended to be curated by patch selection in the patches dir, seals in the sealsdir and keys in the wotdir, why does "press" need to take a head?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the throwaway joke mats is that the top of the bell curve is entirely average, just like putting on pants in the morning
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "and enough statistics to place myself at the top of the bell curve"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mebbe the 'stealth' tech
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no actual physics violations iirc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fairly entertaining
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: did you ever read the books?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but the drifting thinger in the cabin of episode 7? 6? was hilariously bad.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for instance the blood cloud that collapsed when the martian warship began its burn was pretty good
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