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ben_vulpes: around here we just have hipster girls frolicking in meadows waving empty mason jars around
ben_vulpes: interesting yeast sourcing, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: technical note, all wotpastes linked in #trilema will expire in 36 hours. i'll have to work with phf to get something in place to preserve pastes from #trilema.
ben_vulpes: returning to 'boots on the ground', mircea_popescu raises a valid point about changing the interface on users. but the "it should restart on code change to tell users things changed" imposes a very painful, unnecessary constraint on diddling deployed systems.
ben_vulpes: what, people are accustomed to hammering their fingers in the door, so i should allow for people who want me to hammer their fingers before letting them into the house?
ben_vulpes: same'd likely have happened even under restart conditions. difference'd be that the chan would (maybe) see a join/part
ben_vulpes: yes quite obvious, trying to get him to reconsider automating the control rods
ben_vulpes: moreover, how would you make that work with batching?
ben_vulpes: why would you want that?
ben_vulpes: thanks trinque, phf
ben_vulpes: logs and a wot!
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski interesting! so one can either borrow at a low rate and expect no return, or borrow at a high rate and pray for a return?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nevermind that the tools in 'hackerspaces' are invariably so completely out of true as to be useless
ben_vulpes: lol over what?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: mhm
ben_vulpes: 'tis an ersatz auto
ben_vulpes: now /those/ are some good vibrations.
ben_vulpes: generators!
ben_vulpes: microelectric shitmobile is economical in the same way that ersatz american cheese is economical
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski's wife's car is not on pete_dushenski's books?
ben_vulpes: mostly because i intend to own the thing for over a decade, and not drive it a whole lot.
ben_vulpes: i'll take the odd thousand dollar charge over a car lease.
ben_vulpes: btw, where is the epic mp asciilifeform thread about tuning the nonce shifting to ensure nodes have a market for their digests?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: who said anything about waiting
ben_vulpes: not a lot of time to get keccak into the hairball.
ben_vulpes: april, may, july
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was actually trying to figure out what that interest rate point /was/
ben_vulpes: (and where is the "lease don't buy your car!1" tip?)
ben_vulpes: canadoes that?
ben_vulpes: 1% interest on checking or savings accounts oh my sides
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: this interest rate claim: are you implying that house prices go up when interest rates go down, ergo the house won't appreciate if you buy when rates are low and so don't?
ben_vulpes: i grow convinced that wherever pete_dushenski hails from is even weirder than asciilifeform's big gulag
ben_vulpes: ten dollar tacos?!
ben_vulpes: or have it delivered up the street
ben_vulpes: oh well in that case just budget 2 hours to drive it
ben_vulpes: farm equipment is entirely allowed on the highway here, mostly because...we have farms.
ben_vulpes: 'tis here
ben_vulpes: although i'd go for an excavator
ben_vulpes: tempting!
ben_vulpes: "no dood i rented it for laffs for tonight."
ben_vulpes: "holy shit is that your daily driver?!"
ben_vulpes: iono man when i want to show up at a party in a stupidly expensive car for fun, i rent something ludicrous not a fucking ford
ben_vulpes: the same kind of people who lease cars!
ben_vulpes: but not for "showing up for events" but for "showing up for the commute"
ben_vulpes: here too!
ben_vulpes: "hi i would like to pay interest on the loan for this car and also the one that you'll replace it with."
ben_vulpes: how is car renting not a poorfag thing?!
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: plugging his hole with the pastes?
ben_vulpes: less of a shooting and more of a staking out for carrion birds though
ben_vulpes: just send kid to public skool
ben_vulpes: "this land is shit land, that land is shitland, from the trash of new york, to the smog of l.a......"
ben_vulpes: hahaha
ben_vulpes: y'all never stripped out the 2 weeks?
ben_vulpes: molded by stupid, from shit
ben_vulpes: i thought systemd was modeled after windows
ben_vulpes still waiting for integrated apple/ms/mobile linux
ben_vulpes: welcome to...1970?
ben_vulpes: depreciation, maintenance, spine damage, vulnerability to other humans and their wrecking-ball-vehicles
ben_vulpes actually could, but prefers not to
ben_vulpes: hay is for horses, not arguments
ben_vulpes: hey i never said better
ben_vulpes: "slaves build 'em!"
ben_vulpes mind-blow, horses are free what next houses?
ben_vulpes: wake me when the us starts making roads out of something other than oil byproducts again
ben_vulpes: horses are more expensive than a car what is this
ben_vulpes: only people biking in town are noisy impoverished children like myself
ben_vulpes: not the right people
ben_vulpes: bikers are supposed to just get the fuck out of the way, sensibly.
ben_vulpes: there are notorious questions on the or dl test about rider signalling. yes, /horse/ rider signalling.
ben_vulpes: horse is only not in your particularly insane part of the states
ben_vulpes: b-b-but BingoBoingo "the columns of caaarz!"
ben_vulpes is suitably entertained
ben_vulpes: subject of, why did mircea_popescu choose to stay on fleanode?
ben_vulpes: trinque: i'd expect at least a court and a forum
ben_vulpes: afaict there is mircea_popescu's court, some dismally jolly sappers digging tunnels, and some people emptying bedpans in their finery
ben_vulpes: what we, what republic.
ben_vulpes: quadruple if you count the second, right?
ben_vulpes: "we", but aha
ben_vulpes: tangentially relatedly, i've been trying to reconcile "designing a fork to heal the breach between miners and nodes" with "proceed from causes not towards purposes"
ben_vulpes: it's not a true double spend unless you spend...twice.
ben_vulpes: aup that's the one trinque thanks
ben_vulpes: mhm, steve yegge had a piece called "quality without a name", large part was how amazon used (heavily customized) emacs for customer support during the early years, and support staff hated everything that came afterwards
ben_vulpes: ^^ 256 bit
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you have a copy of yegge's "quality without a name" stashed somewhere?
ben_vulpes: "for quaternionlet!!!!"
ben_vulpes: have you...turned your computer off and then on again?
ben_vulpes: our very own pascalian wager
ben_vulpes: nevertheless, ask i did, and answer of some sort i received.
ben_vulpes: i asked "why did you not bring this before the forum first?", and received "what, /you/ idiots?", from which i derive that i am not to expect answers, and if to not expect answer why ask?
ben_vulpes: when i asked, you said "none of you dickbags get off your asses and actually do anything, why would i ask of you one whit"
ben_vulpes: eyyy trinque not that you're short of work or anything rn but hey, add 'titles' to the todo list?
ben_vulpes: and as mircea_popescu has pointed out, courts' mandate descends from the king but may not bind him
ben_vulpes: trinque: myself
ben_vulpes: sometimes even with exclamation points!
ben_vulpes: i'm entirely guilty of seeing something that my raven-eye finds shiny and reacting with "neat" or "nifty" or "cool"
ben_vulpes: hard to say, as a cow
ben_vulpes: "but if the cost of having continuity is to be shackled to dem000cracy (tm alf), i'll happily shed the continuity to be rid of the cows"?
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: "change is the only constant!" (d,tmr~). i've no desire for communiteh and happiness and being in a room where everyone gets along. but the logs were valuable in their own right, for as long as they had that continuity.
ben_vulpes: smoke more cigarettes, talk shit about cmdrs.
ben_vulpes: but hey, we move the camp, dig more latrines.
ben_vulpes: i am fully torn between the poles of wanting to understand why mircea_popescu burned the coins to make the point, desperately wanting continuity with the logs-as-they-were, and recognizing the futility-cum-insubordination of a footsoldier asking anything
ben_vulpes: hail broseidon
ben_vulpes: RIDE NEVER ENDS RIDE NEVER ENDS RIDE NEVER ENDS
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you speak to why ada's usgenesis shouldn't set off klaxons?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'd certainly rather feed racoons with food taped to my body than figure out how to position elements relative to each other
ben_vulpes: holy shit does browser positioning fail to respect the right hand rule?
ben_vulpes: keeping my two cents in the tattoo jar
ben_vulpes makes a note to name the next box lilith
ben_vulpes: wb mike_c
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell adlai "adlai i"
ben_vulpes: Version: 'p' sqrt(etotheipi, give or take a kelvin) << adlaii re-found this amusing
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski what, the numbers mean something now?
ben_vulpes: you're probably digging out from under months of ;;later's
ben_vulpes: heh man i don't even recall the context for that question offhand
ben_vulpes: bon soir
ben_vulpes: mike_c!
ben_vulpes: does anyone remember a story about a last-minute us presidential candidacy that was run on highly personally target emails?
ben_vulpes: i hadn't realized it to be an os
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ever mess around much with cola/jolt/pepsi/idst/friends?
ben_vulpes: the "not a vote for b, but a vote against everything else" line made me tilt my head.
ben_vulpes: > cunch
ben_vulpes: talk to trinque about that
ben_vulpes: when i get my sigil of lilith down i'll do those too
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: pentagrams only.
ben_vulpes: http://i.imgur.com/ewl8iQF.jpg << the white metallic ink pilot g2's have arrived.
ben_vulpes: sorry kakobrekla, was that me?!
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ben_vulpes: stand by
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: 2016?!
ben_vulpes: moreover how does one know that any commenter on bitbet is a bettor? are they 'signing' things with the appropriate privkeys now?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: now credits the howling monkeys outside of the wot with accomplishing things?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu issued a receipt and all
ben_vulpes: so was my ticket to con3, by mthreat.
ben_vulpes: eerily reminiscient of the commerce clause. "in addition to these explicit terms in our favor, we may decide in the future to do other things."
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: nowhere in there does it say "if we overpay and can identify the people to whom we overpaid, we'll clawback funds from those addresses."
ben_vulpes: sure.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: a broker'd not have to share keys with anyone.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1438613 << on the n+1 thread, consider also the broker, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: in other news, i finally put a tv in the conference room and it is now apparently the dedicated "5 hours of rocket explosions on a loop" device
ben_vulpes: why would you put food in that plastic
ben_vulpes: pretty good example of the "promise" end of the spectrum.
ben_vulpes: mrottenkolber: forgive my thickness but /why/ are you doing this?
ben_vulpes: this is a special hell of paranoia, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: boxes do not get delivered to your domicile?
ben_vulpes: and only if used as a hammer and not microscope.
ben_vulpes: fine.
ben_vulpes: yes yes
ben_vulpes: perhaps the *other* way to go about this is simply to make patches against the base 0.5.3, and then anyone wanting to apply them may do so in whatever order they choose, resolving conflicts as they feel.
ben_vulpes: yes but you like pain
ben_vulpes: what about this is fancy?
ben_vulpes: that way i can rebase, etc whenever i care to.
ben_vulpes: i press to confirm patch validity and then commit the changes to my local version controlatron.
ben_vulpes: catch-22
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-11-2015#1329599 << summarization also relies on knowing precisely what /can/ be snipped.
ben_vulpes: i have been failing to shit words on the topic out because i think of familiarity with it. it all seems so obvious!
ben_vulpes: another good topic is "specificity of diddling".
ben_vulpes: 'twas not actually that hard, but it did take knowing the variety speak thoroughly.
ben_vulpes: i recently took a 45 minute sojourn into the history of "protocol vs. promise"
ben_vulpes: fitting in head requires lopping all extraneous log comments off.
ben_vulpes: neato!
ben_vulpes: motherfucking moving target
ben_vulpes: for sitting
ben_vulpes hands trinque a pineapple and broomstick
ben_vulpes: stay limber in your head and effective at your keyboard, and do everything manually why not
ben_vulpes: what is this automating of the mental reactor rods!?
ben_vulpes: what, people don't maintain their own list of books as suggested by the individuals in chan?
ben_vulpes: it hints at ameliorating my concerns.
ben_vulpes: still thinking.
ben_vulpes: i did.
ben_vulpes: "this may contain pernicious hdd-wrecking nasties i'm unaware of, but is the closest thing to a bitcoinator i know of"?
ben_vulpes: "this bitcoinates - i do swear"?
ben_vulpes: i was even uncomfortable signing the genesis vpatch. what does that even mean -- "this is actually some variant of satoshi's hairball"?
ben_vulpes: there is, so far, no "this sucks, but it introduces no new lies" bit.
ben_vulpes: right now, i expect to sign something half-baked that then crashes on some dirigible and gets me excommunicated
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've been waiting for the "what does a signature convey" conversation to sign anything.
ben_vulpes runs to logs, sees an infinity percent increase in traffic
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: kill -9
ben_vulpes: a route around the sybils perhaps?
ben_vulpes: and if the two parties are engaged in commerce, at least there must be an open channel to those consuming the digests.
ben_vulpes: if nonce demand is kept high enough, anyone operating a node that can produce digests has something of value to miners.
ben_vulpes: s/tool/constraint
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: could the digest be a tool for node operators to ensure access to miners?
ben_vulpes: "gotta dilute something!"
ben_vulpes: bitbet under ddos?
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