mircea_popescu: hey listen sina, wanna go with me through the fhf spec and make final version ?
asciilifeform: the badnoose is re certain 2017 intels. starting with iirc kaby
asciilifeform: i hate to be the bringer of badnoose... but it is so.
asciilifeform: mod6: the open-specced intel gpu -- evaporated
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, i agree though. having all kinds of background things running and the kernel off doing who knows what is unwanted.
mircea_popescu: then "masking" and then of course "non maskable" and etc. when that happens you know you fucked up the design
mircea_popescu: interrupts were a bad idea from the get-go.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ( moar-threads-than-cpus is fundamentally a lie to the operator ) << 'i can't believe it's not cpu' aha.
asciilifeform: ( moar-threads-than-cpus is fundamentally a lie to the operator )
asciilifeform: mod6: further re '64-bit dos' : i increasingly also like the idea of os that has 0 kernel activity other than when invoked. and in general, 0 background activity other than user-specified; and no more threads than cpus.
mircea_popescu: wtf is the point even sticking it into her if she can't show 2-3lbs of tit upfront.
asciilifeform: ^ http://www.2f-spiele.de >>>>> 'Ich hoffe, dass auf dieser Seite alle Fragen zum Thema 2F-Spiele beantwortet werden können.'
asciilifeform: afaik they dun make those east of urals
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> so i take it 0 fat folx. << 0 tall chicks with nice udders, either.
asciilifeform: ( ada does not suffer from the c/cpp idiots' '95% of everything we do is not nailed down in the standard' horror )
asciilifeform: 4.9.4 iirc is still on their www
asciilifeform: on the box i'm sitting at nao, i have adacore's 4.9.4
asciilifeform: mod6: because the unix situation ain't getting any better.
mod6: <+shinohai> Ah there is my issue apparently ... I needed to prefix USE=bootstrap << thanks for reporting and working through your probs on this in here -- this will probably help someone in the future.
ag3nt_zer0: dropped my little aged porn star potbelly and all fat over there though with no bread and cheese
ag3nt_zer0: then food... maybe 3-4 usd/day
ben_vulpes: pantsuit parties: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/emails-cheryl-mills-hillary-aides-thought-pantsuit-party-woo-young-voters/
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: what'd a month cost you there?
ag3nt_zer0: Chiang Rai is very nice superior to Chiang Mai imo, smaller, cleaner, up in the hills a bit more
ag3nt_zer0: I really enjoyed the temples everywhere
ag3nt_zer0: i should say it was my first "world trip" so I dont have much to compare it to and was really just enjoying the otherness of it all... the food was fucking incredible and the people were mostly very nice... said hi to me as I walked past them on the street which I guess qualifies as "very nice" in pharmaceutically feminist america
trinque: I resisted the urge to troll him that hard
ag3nt_zer0: hey there!
shinohai: Ah there is my issue apparently ... I needed to prefix USE=bootstrap
asciilifeform: ( either variant involves, sadly, a binary bootstrapper, as gnat is written in ada... )
shinohai: btw mod6 .... I failed with the Ada/Gentoo thing the other night. Back to reading I suppose.
asciilifeform: pretty 'martian' algo for the usual O(N^2) mults, but notably it doesn't need a full Z's worth of temporary row space, but only 3 words' , ~regardless of Z width~ !
a111: Logged on 2017-05-21 00:47 asciilifeform: in other sads, it turns out that paul g. comba ( of comba's multiplication algo ) died in april.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, for the intrepid: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/mIuk9/?raw=true << combatron!
mircea_popescu: "if enough black chicks coded we wouldn't have to think about when was the last time anyone wrote any usefu lcode"
mircea_popescu: shoulda spanked the bitchezs when they were 16, not wait for the fucking "criminology" degree.
mircea_popescu: let's worry if enough black chicks code. that's the issue.
asciilifeform: brings to mind this old '40s sf tale, where 2 d00dz are exonerated of murder after doing 20y on the toughest prison planets, with giant wasps & similar joys, and so each gets a 'murder pass' to actually do the thing he already sat for
asciilifeform: '...the public defender’s office has filed approximately 2,000 motions informing the court that, due to its reportedly imperfect software, many of its clients have been forced to serve unnecessary jail time, be improperly arrested, or even wrongly registered as sex offenders.' << lol!!
ben_vulpes: on the topic of "us courts are a thin veil over the criminal enterprise": https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/appeals-court-public-defender-lacks-standing-in-dispute-over-court-software/
BingoBoingo: But sounds like quite the blender
mircea_popescu: it got all the electronics of old motorola phone.
asciilifeform: trinque: quite a stuggle to buy one ~without~ the crud , lately
trinque: fucking yawn; the things run til 300k miles
asciilifeform: then even old asciilifeform is covered
mircea_popescu: future holds room for maye 10-20mn humans. ~1btc is the table stakes of living on earth
a111: Logged on 2017-06-29 22:04 mircea_popescu: now, evidently they have time-locks and other safeguards on the whole bullshit. but as a factual matter average redditard will have wasted no less than 20k in cash by the time he's "established" in "the community".
BingoBoingo: Well, the shithole rarely starts smelling better on its own
mircea_popescu: now, evidently they have time-locks and other safeguards on the whole bullshit. but as a factual matter average redditard will have wasted no less than 20k in cash by the time he's "established" in "the community".
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo chick i aspirated on the tail end of this owes like 1/4mn to usg according to usg, and wasted about 60k on pot and stupid shit. "living expenses" ie "i was by myself and they were giving me money. what."
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it tightened that badly already, all usoviet is good for is ~decent restaurant meal ? << That's based off of the free student loan money conduit. Eat 20 kilodollars in debt, get less than 10 % in paperable for "living expenses"
mircea_popescu: not a bad role, either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly i thjink you will be recalled as a sort of st peter-thomas in the eventual church.
mircea_popescu: as a protection against change, it is a great life. except of course, as a justification of inertia, it is a terrible life. pick and choose, if it's why not move then it's because life is good, if it's why don't you have your boatirigible it's because life's bad.
mircea_popescu: in the end the circling will always come to the same square : do you wish to live long, or do you wish to live well.
mircea_popescu: but then again -- it was "plan for wealth" not "plan for survival". there's no such thing as a wealthy farmed pig. definitionally -- wealth of farm belongs with farmer.
mircea_popescu: it is generally the argument of the pig in farm that the forest has wolves, and no clearly market slop through.
asciilifeform: the nicaragua shitlife eh
mircea_popescu: then life.
mircea_popescu: if all you can get is a nail, get the nail.
mircea_popescu: and yet "everyone" acts as if they have nfi what mp is saying re usd being ~worthless ?
mircea_popescu: eh wtf. they distinguish atm from pos ?
asciilifeform: or rather, till pid
mircea_popescu: which is why all the africa/south america/etc supermarkets etc.
mircea_popescu: for the record, i will state that the average chinese dood will be supported by the chinese govt with 1-300k usd to open shop abroad.
mircea_popescu: provided they spend a mon-fri interval applying for all the possible credit cards they can find, and then spending saturday hitting all atms ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> any ustard can get 10-20k cash nqa. << Nah, they might... if they are lucky may touch ~1.5-3 kilodollars cash
asciilifeform: ( just as in the old smoking gun, where it came out that nsa delayed the introduction of POPCOUNT instr )
asciilifeform: i wouldn't even be surprised if the explanation for this turns out, in the end, to be an usgological one
asciilifeform: it is mind-boggling, ~all major cpu have had 2word-outputting MUL instr for, what, 30 years. and NO compiler actually gives you, by default, the top half of it !!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/#comment-122297
asciilifeform: that it'll blow away the 'this is exactly same on all bitnesses' algebra
mircea_popescu: inline you mean ? so what's the problem with that ?
asciilifeform: ( yes that's what you end up doing JUST TO GET THE UPPER 64bits of result !! )
asciilifeform: but will observe that we can get something like a 8x speedup 'for phree' if use MUL instr. inlike instead of the http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/RSu5T/?raw=true horror show.
asciilifeform: is whole point of the ffa thing
mircea_popescu: so in this sense (not yet ready to shave the combined rsa-symkey model) not ready to fly.
asciilifeform: because there, not only gen problem, but each shot.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the problem. i got power.
mircea_popescu: some things, could be had but aren't ; other things can't be had so we don't have them. what can you do.
mircea_popescu: and i don't have a slave that eats jam and shits whole prunes. NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE is the controlling bit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no matter how you cut it, however, i dun have a battery that will power a keygeneratory-capable comp for a month. and neither does anybody else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because they can't afford to not fork-on-secrets
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is also the problem of shitty profiling, times may not be accurate as measured.
mircea_popescu: yet once more poverty is the edge distinguishing man from nigger.
mircea_popescu: basically the other side of the "constant time" coin is that... YOU GET CONSTANTTIME, BITCH.
asciilifeform: and when test is 0x2fffffff.....ff * 0x4ffffffff....fff (8192 b.) so as no 0s to 'cheat' with, then they : 0.7s
asciilifeform: them: 0.345s
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/ << Trilema - The Universal Plan for Wealth
asciilifeform: 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF ** 0x80 was picked because the answer actually occupies 8192 bits.
asciilifeform: i suppose i'm stuck actually measuring time of N (large N) mult ops, rather than exp
asciilifeform: recall, we're FFA, and they're non-F
asciilifeform: ( and yes, it cheats, not the least of it being that it STOPS after 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, rather than doing the other 8192-N bits )
asciilifeform: in other noose ! nao we have comba's algo multiplier as basecase in karatsuba (currently threshold 8 words) , and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-21#1673165 becomes now 7.5sec
mircea_popescu: pretty srue they've been stealing cars for >decade byu now.
asciilifeform: ( soon to be : not merely the cash in your pocket, but whatever is in your car/house/bank )
asciilifeform: trip over policeman in usaschwitz --> lose the cash
mircea_popescu: teh slave habits are strong in the herd.
mircea_popescu: these "Dangers" are very much hallucinated. chick i bought car from (for cash!) was totally petrified of you know, having money.
asciilifeform: where do they start ?
mircea_popescu: if you can't buy btc for cash you aren't a person. that is the minimum bar of personhood.
asciilifeform: for other values, it is like buying strela.
mircea_popescu: there's markets.
asciilifeform: yes but who wants to trade bitcoin for these
mircea_popescu: they spend 10x that on "tuition"
asciilifeform: upstack : i suspect that the situation re 'borrow mortgage and run away into btc' is entirely similar to old su 'run into dollars'. many (most?) would have nodded to 'sell motherland', 'but nobody's buying her!'
mircea_popescu: or w/e the shit's called, MyDocuments
mircea_popescu: they'll lose their worthless body here to accumulate great fortunes in the myfolder future!
mircea_popescu: might as well ask byzantine army that if they get tired might stop believing jesus is in the sky.
asciilifeform: hey if they get tired, could always consider not runningmoarwinblowz
mircea_popescu: and the us congress will. and everyone else.
asciilifeform: same failure mode tho -- you go around pirateing, yarrrr, and storing treasure in btc, but in the end it turns out you were privateering for inca
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform bad plan to produce while there's inca around. revisit the ancients -- it is shameful for man to work plow like beast of burdewn wehn he could be soldier and plujnder.
asciilifeform: now say they instead had produced, and thinking it were theirs ('charging btc battery'). and then -- inca gets it.
asciilifeform: let's briefly revisit ye olde su, which afaik was largely nailed by folx ~not producing~, rather than spiriting $goodies away overseas
mircea_popescu: and the "at least" is same in both cases.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'better position' i admit is a poor phrasing. moar of 'give arsonist 10x the petrol'
mircea_popescu: you instead say "oh, at least they" line.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform when we were discussing how the loser should treat the usg, ie, borrow and steal, move it to btc, and run away, you pointed out that "if btc fails, then the evil empire of usg is that much better positioned", but did not say "at least the folks trying enjoyed the try"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll admit to a complete puzzlement re which 'it' i 'have there' 'and not here'
mircea_popescu: how come you didn't have that there -- have it here ?
mircea_popescu: but hey -- at least they got some tequilla!
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> but enemy, hypothetically, ahead '+9000%', having successfully swallowed everything folx moved into btc
mircea_popescu: "at least" is the pregnant woman solace.
mircea_popescu: or do i need to dig up the threads about us "regulator" "fining" japanese co ? or the one where other japanewse co built shit and usg dun feel obliged to pay ? or ?
asciilifeform: well picture another 5 yrs of it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'stalingrad' hypothesis was not re 'germany wins' but rather 'prolongs the agony' -- could have easily finished wrecking the not-yet-wrecked half of europe, say.
mircea_popescu: 1mn german trainers whipping russian mujicks into the ground would have produced 10x more for the reich than 5mn soldiers did.
mircea_popescu: never take the old woman side, she's a born loser.
asciilifeform: serious problem in the original germany : scarce and cruddy fuel , from fischer-tropsch ( which they only even had to begin with because of those 60.. )
mircea_popescu: hitler fell for the eternal patnsuit scam, invaded russia to sell to some white old women in europe the notion that "bolshevik threat". bad trade
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so then you agree stalingrad was irrelevant militarily
mircea_popescu: only spartan women can, and they're hard to lay.
mircea_popescu: germany's problem was sparta's problem -- all the raw materials in the world can't make another spartan.
asciilifeform: hard to picture them not coming back to a victorious germany
mircea_popescu: instead they were gonna man docks in pittsburgh
mircea_popescu: all the aryans making up 55% of the us 120mn weren't gonna come back to berlin and man stalingrad wells.
mircea_popescu: petrowells schmetrowells. germany had lost all its human resources throughtout a century and a half of inept management to the us.
mircea_popescu: because i did the maths.
mircea_popescu: the indigent will still be indigent, and "medicare"
asciilifeform: rather than 'whole thing evaporates overnight'
asciilifeform: but enemy, hypothetically, ahead '+9000%', having successfully swallowed everything folx moved into btc
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626921 << yes. there's absolutely no argument that bitcoin dying on the enemy's terms would be an unmitigated catastrophe. chernobyl pales in comparison, it'd be on the level of "wheel is useless anyway" wisdom of dropped-on-head amerindians, or "oh pretty, spinning wheels" greek steam engine. utterly catastrophic. which is why eg http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/#selection
mircea_popescu: even unemployed mouthbreather can get 10-20k. in a decade that'll be enough.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik this is only dampered today by the lack of folx willing to part with btc
mircea_popescu: which is why that's the idea : take all the credit card debt you canm, buy btc, mexico.
asciilifeform: in ye olde su this was accomplished somewhat differently -- by physically cutting apart the, e.g., laboratory where you worked, and selling to faceless bagmen who carried it abroad
asciilifeform: ( i.e. if 'lafond's mother' could cash in, even at a loss, the house into non-usgolade )
asciilifeform: if ~anyone actually wanted usd enough to pay bitcoin for it en masse, even nickel-on-the-dollar's worth, usg would evaporate in a week.
mircea_popescu: this is the perpetual bait and switch : "fuck you, be useful" creates a lot of people with repressed needs. it APPEARS that "to everyone according to his needs" will then turn a profit. get themn to vote you, pay their tiny needs, make bank.
mircea_popescu: it's how the 4m ceilings one died.
asciilifeform: it's the sure siphon by which it can be drained dry.
asciilifeform: re the confiscation : welfaristans fear sham-indigence like elephant fears mice
mircea_popescu: hey, wehn was the sequel an improvement
asciilifeform: i prefer the original one, where, e.g., asciilifeform's folx had 4 metre ceilings and paid 0 rent and 0 mortgage
mircea_popescu: welcome to the undeclared soviet republic.
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=8142 << "Her attorney informed us this morning, that although the deed is being assigned to my sister, my brother and I, that if my mother requires nursing home care through Medicare at any point over the next five years, that the Feds will take the house to pay the bills. "
phf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/1701068 << "In Ubuntu 17.04 or newer, there is a script at /etc/update-motd.d/50-motd-news that reads https://motd.ubuntu.com/ and displays that text with the rest of the MOTD. Currently, https://motd.ubuntu.com shows a news item about HBO's Silicon Valley which has a reference to Ubuntu."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this'd likely end with a gorbachev-like 'mr. president is not feeling well today, or this week, needs his rest' while pantsuits take the wheel.
asciilifeform: which ended with ~his~ appointees there being sacked
asciilifeform: iirc he was last seen trying to hammer the cameras in 'security council'
mircea_popescu: still, you know. buy a hammer tear down the toilet cameras, anyone who tries to fix is fired.
mircea_popescu: i didn't let my security ppl follow me around all the time.
mircea_popescu: only becausde he lets them.
asciilifeform: they are characters in 'realityshow'
asciilifeform: hey if you lose the harem, and instead replace with fishwife, then from where is the 'harem vs forum' to come from.
mircea_popescu: except they';re trying tyo you know, make it opposable. to everyone but not themselves.
mircea_popescu: but if you look at it, whole movement is built on this thing. "hypocrisy" is how you say "we think we decide what other people say in public or in private" in pantsuit.
mircea_popescu: for some reason they're obsessed with making the old man's life miserable by pestering him constantly.
asciilifeform: 'Latest from our investigations White House spotlight: Tracking Donald Trump By The Center for Public Integrity February 13, 2017' << aaaah yes
asciilifeform: and for some similarly inexplicable reason, neither derp had an extant pgp key of any serious age
asciilifeform: ( and for some inexplicable reason i had to strip the headers, for these to get eaten )
asciilifeform: re the nuke piece, for future reference :
trinque: guy's job as texas governor was primarily to do nothing, and make sure the other parts of government did as much nothing as possible, too.
mircea_popescu: trinque to quote the rage of central america... "deeeeeespaaaacito... como lo hacen en puerto rico..."
mircea_popescu: aha. was even lulzed vaguely in the logs last year iirc.
asciilifeform: '...they gathered eight rods painstakingly crafted out of plutonium, and positioned them side-by-side on a table to photograph how nice they looked.' << lol! slotin spins in his lead coffin
mircea_popescu: ive not seen one but i think they do exist here
shinohai is amazed how these butterflies are like a coin flip. iridescent on one side, drab brown on reverse ....
shinohai: Do you ever see any of the Morpho menelaus around where you are in Costa Rica? Those are my favorite.
mircea_popescu: lotta that on trilema. gets me all thew time too
shinohai is enjoying the Rhopalocera from http://trilema.com/2017/the-pulation-and-other-biodiversities/
asciilifeform: aah the one where 'elite team of experts understands complex security issues'
BingoBoingo unsure if this is related to smoking cessation or alf's dosimeter hypothesis
mircea_popescu: to them it makes sense.
mircea_popescu: and in random lulz : bus line in costa rica chose the facebook handle viajEROTICAbus
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 21:15 asciilifeform: in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago.
mircea_popescu: there is time tho
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 17:55 asciilifeform: ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while )
palatine: just reading trilema and contravex and followed the lead here
asciilifeform: in other noose, in 6236676 phuctor moduli, still just the same old 2 fermat-factorables as 6 mo. ago.
jurov: a parallel with economy struck me. economists invented something they call "value" and are jerking off on it it ever since
ben_vulpes: best part, "their results are just completely out of the standard accepted by minimum wage hike advocates as reasonable"
BingoBoingo: In other citizen complaints: "Regarding recent posts about a suspicious white panel van that has been spotted ... was contacted by the owner who recognized his vehicle after seeing the posts on social media. He is a local construction worker who had pulled over to take a phone call after leaving a job site near the original complaint location... this was a false alarm."
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> apparently in usg also there are 'untouchable' folx. << Care to do a qntra? Your interpretation seems more interesting than mine.
asciilifeform: ( this was very near the time when FUCKGOATS was beginning to happen , and it took over asciilifeform's head for a long while )
asciilifeform: gotta do this, at some point , after done with the rsa thing
a111: Logged on 2017-06-28 01:32 Framedragger: (ah in fact a bit up the stack, http://trilema.com/2016/gossipd-design-document/#comment-121602)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-28#1675561 << i reread the mega-thread, and it seems that i promised mircea_popescu an algo ! and never iirc posted...
asciilifeform: ecutors. He will also have access to the case files associated with criminal trials.'
asciilifeform: 'Around the time of the attack, the pro-government Supreme Court expanded the role of the state ombudsman, a human rights guarantor who is closely allied with Maduro, by giving him powers previously held only by the state prosecutor's office. Tarek Saab, an ardent Maduro ally, can now lead criminal investigations by ordering state officials to conduct autopsies and carry out ballistics tests, powers previously reserved for state pros
asciilifeform: '"It's a terrorist attack that is part of an insurrectional offensive by Venezuelan right-wing extremists with the support of foreign governments and powers," said a Venezuelan government communique on the helicopter raid.' << didjaknow
mircea_popescu: i was thinking one of the military ones.
mircea_popescu: you ever been in one odf those ? they're ~useless for aiming
asciilifeform: further lulz from recent fishwrap, https://archive.is/37eB9 >> 'Venezuelan police helicopter strafed the Supreme Court and a government ministry on Tuesday...'
mircea_popescu: yes. no child left behind always means "the kids you really like getting procusted"
asciilifeform: well no, not so simple, dh is happy to print 'weak' or 'fail' that resulted from... IT WRAPPING THE STRING
mircea_popescu: bcause nobody can ever be told they'\re not fucking good enough omfgbbq
asciilifeform: i could live with 'too few bits? yer stuck with lower P, and oh here i'll print the P'
asciilifeform: it is in this case specifically cargocultism, rather than application
asciilifeform: 'cannot rightfully apprehend the confusion of ideas that would lead to such...' (tm)(r)(babbage)
asciilifeform: the notion of making a statistical claim about a doubled-tripled-15upled up string, is ????????.
mircea_popescu: then that becomes a pattern when you reuse it
mircea_popescu: fucking stupid camp. there's a guarantee real random stream will vary from 01010101 by some count.
mircea_popescu: yes but then he implements rewinds ?
asciilifeform: as i understand it was a statistical ('p value') demand by the author.