(trilema) ben_vulpes: anways, merry 2017, y'all. make up yr own bloodthirsty paeans.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imma finish this phf-inspired patch and fix the miner
(trilema) ben_vulpes: get in there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: i thought like 5 people lived there
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: probably wanted to let you know you had some past-due taxes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh that old scam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: showed up asking questions at one of his places of work iirc, but cannot find a line
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not even the usb charger in the cigarette lighter
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: odd in that - somewhat secured lot, by far the least enticing vehicle in it (nothing on the seats in stark contrast to next car over), window smashed, lock popped, nothing taken
(trilema) ben_vulpes: whocoodanode he'd buy the republican party
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i had an odd car buglaring mid 2015
(trilema) ben_vulpes: or you know wherever bb spends his time
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform had some odd folks visit his office, BingoBoingo idem
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: send me a cram?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fireworks are just marvelous for a fourteen month old's sleep
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yes asciilifeform pops each one by hand
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is "clever" territory?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: imma leave phuctor to stuff the log, kid is awake and i'm going to squeeze a skosh more dopamine out of the evening
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: seriously the cryptic theatrics grate
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: fwiw i watched it before pinging you, nevertheless
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that was ~it
(trilema) ben_vulpes: look put a proper promotional video together you'd be happy to see in public
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: i saw a few names and project details, figured they were placeholder content
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have utterly nfi why you want it held tightly
(trilema) ben_vulpes: why you insist on unloading into your own foot is /beyond/ me
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dog
(trilema) ben_vulpes: decrypted and viewed, imma host it for you. decrypted.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: ack
(trilema) ben_vulpes: bbl
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but anything with google in the dns is not hosted what madness are you spouting
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for some reason my child is motoring about
(trilema) ben_vulpes: just out of curiosity, asciilifeform, why is key download...a submit button?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: *jackpot*
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait is phuctor serving pages or not
(trilema) ben_vulpes juggling own turds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does your gpg know it's been revoked
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how does phuctor know the key's been revoked?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: imma host this thing for you, k?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: anyways, tty'alll
(trilema) ben_vulpes: howabout u6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i was making an m3 joke too! cool!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: usg and data in the same sentence, hyuuu
(trilema) ben_vulpes: heh
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i don't want to hear about your laptop status omg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wyrdmantis: ffs get a bouncer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eg mortars, that anti-ship device that pops up and comes right back down
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats: does the dome at least handle steep ballistics decently?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amusingly, .is actually wrote the book on rocketry-resistant fleets. turns out -- many small boats. hard to do that with the holy tent.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the only actual anti-rocketry defense being "don't be anywhere near targets of interest"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what i mean to say is that it's about the only thing one could deploy around that many folks, is something that goes blooie in the air rather than a zillion rather-fast bullets most of which will come back down at lethal speeds
(trilema) ben_vulpes: can't exactly light the computer-controlled machine gun off at inbound targets over heavily populated areas
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ooh ooh or the ruskies who burnt hundies on camera for the transfer back to us treasury!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: moon landing of cryptocurrencies
(trilema) ben_vulpes: so trust
(trilema) ben_vulpes: that's the one with the magic secret data that peter todd nominally destroyed?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: buying drinks is one thing, girl soaking everything in sight less common
(trilema) ben_vulpes: never seen anything like it in my life
(trilema) ben_vulpes wiggles eyebrows
(trilema) ben_vulpes: don't
(trilema) ben_vulpes: baaad videography
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other eurolols https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C12F4MM71q0
(trilema) ben_vulpes hands davout a beer
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i think this is pretty neat, have wondered about your x-referencer etc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: still needs signing, yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hey, the power rangers wanted 20mb blocks for whatever reason. i want indices.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: cheeky
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: we're cramming a year+ of wallet into davout's head now that he's paying attention again
(trilema) ben_vulpes: fine i'm going to go scream in a corner where i'm sure i'm the only one listening
(trilema) ben_vulpes: which is why index the whole blockchaaaaaain
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'inspected for pertinent-to-me tx' is a subset of 'index blocks sanely'
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wallet boils down to 'index of txen paying to addresses i care about' anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: any sane trb that doesn't index tx on output address i suppose
(trilema) ben_vulpes: today, yes
(trilema) ben_vulpes: index with symlinks on address too why not
(trilema) ben_vulpes: with the current mechanism you'll have to import those addresses and rescan some amount of the blockchain to find the utxos you want
(trilema) ben_vulpes: loya
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: and you get this list of utxos how?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: at issue here is "where do the coins go" and "how to select the utxos to sign"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one of you is using it to describe the process of selecting signable unspent transaction outputs and another using it to describe the new outputs created
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you two are using "output selection" to mean two different things
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: he's still digesting "how to cut the wallet", let him ask for the things for which he's going to ask
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sorry, what?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout's a rubyist, don't expect rigor in terminology from him mod6 :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/test/transaction_tests.cpp?v=makefiles#0004
(trilema) ben_vulpes: create and sign at least may be testable via the boost testing framework that's already in place
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: "test[ing] this" is actually how i got on the alpha centauri miner quest
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty jurov
(trilema) ben_vulpes: because it has to keep track of the inputs for all of the addresses it made ten minutes ago
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: yup
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: have you run msft updater today? :P
(trilema) ben_vulpes: sometimes verifying a new block
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: my node is for example, busy sometimes serving blocks to other people
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-30#1593697 << scripting is too much work, just manually dump every block and then manually load it into trb once the previous eat completes. nice meditative activity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i'm off, later davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i believe that mod6 has a solid one as well, pete_dushenski's has been blackholed of late
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i use whirling rust, he -- ssd's.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: either asciilifeform's or mine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: not that it cannot be done that way, but it is faster other ways.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: and waste time negotiating connections
(trilema) ben_vulpes: otherwise trb may decide to ask utter randos for blocks
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: you will sync far more quickly if you -connect to a single, high reliability, high bandwidth node during sync
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: congrats!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: amusing innit that the father of the since-aborted 'blockchain spam' meme is now spamming irc
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: how does that help me filter luke-jr's spam and not noobs?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i see a new face at the back of the hall, i'm going to give them the opportunity to at least say hello and introduce themselves.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i will not spend the time to figure out how to mute everyone but noobs i've never seen before
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it is visible and annoying. stop it.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: for those who *still* miss the point, joining and parting is opening and closing the squeaky doors on a hall where 5 people are arguing and 500 muffling laughter and groans
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a join and an up, which is predicated on the obvious
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wear a shirt with last weeks sweat stains on it, it's not like you're that important
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nah, park your boat on the lawn, who cares
(trilema) ben_vulpes: it's like omfg even aws is barely 10us/mo for a vps you don't have to trust
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what part of bumfuckistan do you live in that prevents colo access?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: you want to matter in crypto but "nah bro, it's just my isp" at me?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: top 10 in disconnects over the year? no problem?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !!up luke-jr
(trilema) ben_vulpes: luke-jr: i know you're awake and reading this because you pm'd me. don't pretend otherwise, it's downright foolish.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: one can patch an empty directory with an arbitrary patch and extract the filenames patch wanted to hit
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: when it works, it outputs the list of patched files
(trilema) ben_vulpes: !up luke-jr well did you read the link or what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait phf hang on no i don't think i'm going to do the largest common, i think i'm just going to use the output of patch to figure out what was actually patched
(trilema) ben_vulpes: felipelalli, vexare, wyrdmantis, Sinclair6, luke-jr please fix your bouncers
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other unixisms: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Lwefz/?raw=true
(trilema) ben_vulpes: tight
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ^^ mircea_popescu asciilifeform mod6 trinque and any other vtronicists pls to opine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: when i crack my v again in the morrow, i'm going to implement hash-checking against longest common directory tree
(trilema) ben_vulpes: BLOOD SPORTS
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aaaaah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eager juvenile algos are eager and juvenile
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ah <p gotcha
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i would also like to see the vdiff into which you're piping diff, mostly out of curiosity
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "tee p" just papers your house with the output or what
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what is `p'?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: good to know that terminal prompt of yours survived the trip through the pastebin
(trilema) ben_vulpes: okay i see
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would it be unreasonable to calve this scenario off?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 1 thing of note is that your example patches an extant file in holyfuq/
(trilema) ben_vulpes: COOL
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i have nfi
(trilema) ben_vulpes: standby 1
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i actually can't get patch c/old.lisp and d/veh.lisp to apply derp.vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gross.kpeg
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what's an insane input that breaks the shortest common substring test?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: would a smallest common substring test suffice here?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: RIGHT?!
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema-mod6?d=2016-12-29#3 << thread in #trilema-mod6
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: patch will apply something cleanly with mismatched depths, won't it?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: how many prefixes to strip
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i've been frowning at -p1 for a bit now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: but i hate 3 for obvious reasons
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the third approach is to apply each patch to an empty directory and determine what files would have been patched, had it applied cleanly.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: standby, let me test a third approach
(trilema) ben_vulpes: the only other thing that i can think to do here is to grab the set of parents and children, match them up, and then get the lowest common denominator (if you will) file path for each patched file directly from the vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: c) hash that file and compare to the vpatch contents
(trilema) ben_vulpes: b) when working through the list of each patch's children, search through the list of patched files until the patched filepath is a subsequence of the filename as recorded in the vpatch
(trilema) ben_vulpes: a) capture output of `patch' to determine which files were patched
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-29#1592918 << ftr i hate the solution for this that i have on disk
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mhm.
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "this shape" being selective html regeneration? or mutation in place?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: parsing html isn't even hard
(trilema) ben_vulpes: deduplication
(trilema) ben_vulpes: no it's fine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque: just sed and awk the html you have in place to update ratings
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: exactly :D
(trilema) ben_vulpes: please to never have code near an httptron
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i am very much a fan of this design
(trilema) ben_vulpes: C-k, not C-j, kid...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: trinque ^^
(trilema) ben_vulpes: woods?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: s/'s//
(trilema) ben_vulpes: eh, obab's just wants to grab some pussy
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pedantically, each patch then produces semantically new program?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: yup, i see now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: what means "semantics" wrt operation of this proggy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: ah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1591573 << the diff line is distinct from the --- / +++ lines, does one ever see a patch file where the files compared aren't prefixed with a/ or b/ ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty asciilifeform
(trilema) ben_vulpes: while you're at it, type2 and type3 are?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: dipshits
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: any idea how prb identifies a trb node?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: moreover i'm too ferklempt over how the thing's changed since 10.2 to want much to do with it anymore
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i have no idea how to fix macos
(trilema) ben_vulpes: phf: i only used windows as a wee one in school labs and a mildly less wee one in cad labs, so no idea re administration haxery
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mildly less painful than restarting whole machine
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: kill -9 may help
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: you have to reboot the whole machine?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: jurov: would you be so kind as to update the lxr with makefiles.vpatch ?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: quote me a chapter and verse?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: now i really want to know
(trilema) ben_vulpes: gross
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: wait, what is the difference between mempool and relay set?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: run moar macos or how does it go
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aha, air gaping
(trilema) ben_vulpes: 'pucker only in times of stress', i say
(trilema) ben_vulpes: i find a relaxed colon makes for a relaxed thinker
(trilema) ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is practicing retention?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pretty mich
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "obab demands we say something nasty about the russkies. so...hey php is vulnerable and shit"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: thought you might find it amusing
(trilema) ben_vulpes: some tiny amount of finger pointing followed by owasp best practices
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other unholy file formats: https://www.us-cert.gov/sites/default/files/publications/JAR_16-20296.pdf
(trilema) ben_vulpes: did ccc publish transcripts for these somewhere?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: surely you need to borrow /more/ money
(trilema) ben_vulpes: shoulda said "looks like a variant on another classic retail scam"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: marvelous trick
(trilema) ben_vulpes: davout: this is sop for american retail brokers as well. even were you to have the cash on hand to buy the underlying outright unless you jump through very specific and hard to find hoops retail brokerages will lend you the capital to take the position you intended to enter under your own steam
(trilema) ben_vulpes: local pressings any good?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: asking or being asked?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: welcome back davout
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: have a link handy?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in entirely unrelated microsoftery, http://archive.is/UrLGx
(trilema) ben_vulpes: nono, it's not a hack to do here
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mod6: moreover the general case is looking to be "project-genesis.vpatch"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: odd to see gribble having such troubles
(trilema) ben_vulpes: also mimisbrunnr irc component isn't wired up to do the talmudic recitals, so...
(trilema) ben_vulpes: ty, anyways
(trilema) ben_vulpes: lacking ACTION lines as of right now
(trilema) ben_vulpes: Framedragger: yeah, formal announcement...sometime
(trilema) ben_vulpes: if you don't bottom it out it's not a proper test drive
(trilema) ben_vulpes: hoon dems
(trilema) ben_vulpes: aight, trinque updated
(trilema) ben_vulpes: standby 2, there's more coming on that post
(trilema) ben_vulpes: looks like what i see as well
(trilema) ben_vulpes: cool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: would you humor me and upload a genesis.vpatch.mircea_popescu.sig and let me know what your mp_wp does?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cooooool
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: have you ever wrestled with mp-wp stripping '.' characters from uploaded filenames when there's more than one?
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "well known figure in github circles"
(trilema) ben_vulpes: oh yeah
(trilema) ben_vulpes: +4,200 -18,102
(trilema) ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-28#1591573 << i'll have to think on how to fix this
(trilema) ben_vulpes: "honey, don't /look/, but..."
(trilema) ben_vulpes: in other "how the mighty have fallen"s: https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8026-a_story_of_discrimination_and_unfairness
(trilema) ben_vulpes: mats misses 'home culture'