asciilifeform: but at any rate, this threatrical blinkenlight assemblage is simply to distract from the fact that the check IS NOT ENFORCED!
asciilifeform: arbitrarily, the comparison is only even performed if the magic is below LOCKTIME_THRESHOLD ( http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h#0042 )
asciilifeform: the locktime thing is simply a hint that says 'usg-compliant miners, PLEEEZ dun mine this until block X'
asciilifeform: not in mempool soup.
asciilifeform: a doublespend is, in sane planet, STRICTLY attempt to spend coin that was already spent IN A BLOCK
asciilifeform: davout: the entire attempt to mechanically distinguish 'double' from normal spends is an evil prbism
asciilifeform: this is actually one of the reasons i insisted on eatblock and dumpblock
asciilifeform: mod6: 'create a tx' is np-complete (knapsack problem) so you can potentially end up with strange solutions. user MUST approve before firing.
asciilifeform: davout: mempool operation slows sync 100x
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is currently a cached image, i implemented it. the cached snapshots however last for a limited time (iirc i have it set to half hr per url)
asciilifeform: (won't import in gpg, but ~will~ in js www-based shitpgptrons)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other obvious thing would be to dispense with 'real time submission' entirely, and when someone dumps in a key, it goes into next batch. but we discussed this earlier in this thread, it would mean that the thing cannot be used as sks-like tool.
asciilifeform: (and bernsteinization requires access to ~all~ moduli, as i think is obvious, and not simply 'most recent ones')
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but yes, for next version (presently only exists in my notebook) there is a nursery and it gets merged into main table at night. but this makes for considerably more complex system, where there are two very distinct types of submission, 'realtime' and 'scripted' , and they get treated quite differently.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i do not. because it will require 100x more complex mechanism.
asciilifeform: (in fact, dumping out the entire db, and properly bignumizing, takes about 3min total for the current db.)
asciilifeform: phf: actually the wwwtronic piece of phuctor is in python and does the precompiled queries thing
asciilifeform: i for one do not expect to live long enough to make a serious attempt at such a thing.
asciilifeform: so it has not been a priority, because batching will tremendously complicate the moving parts.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 0 temp tables
asciilifeform: the fastest sync method, supposing one has access to a synced node, but also supposing that it won't do to simply copy the blocks (and it won't, you want to verify) is an eater-shitter system
asciilifeform: how about iterators? they are all explicit? million temp vars?
asciilifeform: the one obvious optimization i was considering was to avoid all dupe checks on key submit and simply deduplicate prior to each bernsteining. but this has serious cost in ui consistency, no more could submitters expect to see a result that is guaranteed to make sense after they submit.
asciilifeform: moreover, it's either ~completely-readable~ or 'dragons in a cave'.
asciilifeform: how much of 'what trinque wants here' is unobtainable by simply abusing the fs ?
asciilifeform: i've seriously considered reimplementing phuctor in this shape. as it is, it loses more from the slow writes idiotically queuing up, and the wedged reads that result, than it wins from fast structured queries.
asciilifeform: the important thing to observe , in each case, is whether it changed semantics in a way that can be ~understood~
asciilifeform: i suppose for completeness one ought to include a '5' -- foolish folx who think that 4GB / non-ECC ddr4 / etc. is a trb node
asciilifeform: and can you get a core dump out of the thing pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: 'A Finnish court has sentenced the former head of Helsinki's anti-drugs police to 10 years in prison for drug-smuggling and other offences. ... It ranks as the second least-corrupt country, after Denmark, in the global index compiled by Transparency International.' << in other reich lulz.
asciilifeform: 'Mr Obama also announced the US will declassify technical information related to Russian cyber activity to "help network defenders in the United States and abroad identify, detect, and disrupt Russia's global campaign of malicious cyber activities".'
asciilifeform: in the pashtun sense contemplated, they were exactly the same thing, 'they think they own the world because they can make jets'
asciilifeform: not everybody wants to be involved with mega-empires, on the giving or on the receiving end. in that light, the pashtun mountains are every bit a 'high-tech' deterrent as a SAM battery.
asciilifeform: ( though i do have a few nitpicks re: mircea_popescu's 'Do you have any idea what it costs to drill for water in that sort of clearly basaltic substrate ? Look it up. And then, IF, and that's a huge if, you're lucky enough to find water, you'll be stuck pumping it five thousand feet. Which means each cubic meter of water will cost you, even should you have the perfect engine, a megajoule and a half' -- there'd be no reason to get the
asciilifeform: 'With just one programming technique, the SPITBOL compiler violated several principles of good programming...'
asciilifeform: in other lulz, gnat's standard library apparently includes a compact implementation of... SPITBOL.
asciilifeform: 'This is physical Bitcoin as it was meant to be: just hand it to someone and they've got it. Pass it on multiple times! As simple as a handshake. No miner fees, no confirmation delays.'
asciilifeform: 'Secure authentication and product validation device datasheet summary. The complete document is available under NDA. For more information, please contact your local Atmel sales office.' << lel
asciilifeform: vintage lulz ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-15#1542468 ) continued! >> http://blog.opendime.com/post/155026798632/announcing-opendime-v2-now-genuine-verified << 'we’ve added a special security chip, the sole purpose of which is to defeat any attempt at building counterfeit or cloned Opendime'
asciilifeform: iirc you gotta actually hold office for impeachment in usa. but -- ianal.
asciilifeform: http://ec2-52-37-126-112.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/falstaff pretty useless also.
asciilifeform: Optimum compression would reduce the size
asciilifeform: (you can actually pick'n'choose components of standard libs)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1) there is exactly one implementation 2) by... mozilla 3) there is exactly 1 backend 4) which is... llvm 5) the users.
asciilifeform: r, credit card number as well as more mundane data, like hair colour and favourite dish, are called attributes in this model. Some of these attributes are not identifying (e.g. age or hair colour) whereas others are (e.g. name or social security number). An attribute-based credential is a cryptographic container for attributes represented as integers. The two most important technologies that realise attribute based credentials are Mi
asciilifeform: 'In most computer-related scientific work a digital identity is considered to be a set of characteristics describing certain properties about an individual. This set is dynamic, and depends on the context in which the individual is known. The attribute-based credential technology implements this model; see for instance [Camenisch et al., 2011,Alpár and Jacobs, 2013]. Personal characteristics, such as age, name, social security numbe
asciilifeform: ed on algebraic MACs. [3] The construction of this scheme required a library for working with points on an elliptic curve, [4] which Henry de Valence and I have implemented in Rust, using a curve25519 in Edwards form. Henry has made more detailed announcement of our curve25519-dalek library on the curves mailing list, [5] and our documentation is also available online. [6]'
asciilifeform: 'Began implementing the crypto needed for the social distributor, as well as writing documentation describing it. [0] [1] In light of the history of attacks on pairing-friendly curves combined with the recent pseudo-MOV attack which solves discrete logarithms in the embedding field of the pairing (where the embedding field is of small degree), [2] I decided to avoid pairings altogether and use an attribute-based credential scheme bas
asciilifeform: (broke a cryptosystem? designed one ? implemented one ? hell, served time in a salt mine with 'cryptographers', at least ? any ? which ?)
asciilifeform: http://www.insecam.org/en/view/168264/#camstream << the strangest i/o relay i've ever seen. lamp is hooked, by all indications, to the 'network contact' box. as is the toggle.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform for example can't stand the prepared kind.
asciilifeform: not quite so simple, e.g., c++11 ~dunwork under 4.x, and you're stuck with 'boost' and other abortions to make up for the missing functionality.
asciilifeform: very basic jobs, comprehensible even to a retarded lemur, remain screamingly undone.
asciilifeform: esp. because ciphers are a blindingly obvious 'political art', where if you aren't schneier et al, you don't get printed in journals, invited to conferences, implemented by open sores monkeys, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: more dire, even, than this, we aren't dealing with 20 years of disinfo artistry, but ~70 ! hagelin, crypto-ag, etc. and the entire poppycock of transposition ciphers surviving into computer age
asciilifeform: pipeline doesn't leak timing either, because - if implemented correctly - you never branch on a secret (key or plaintext) bit.
asciilifeform: more or less simply declared 'history, done with'
asciilifeform: davout: it was a loud, public wank, ~impossible to 'unhappen' to any reasonable degree
asciilifeform: the political history is also rather interesting (it was on track to winning the 'aes competition', received fewest thumbs-down votes from the panelists, but mysteriously torpedoed by usg and did not win)
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/HQmMH/?raw=true << example in ada. < 700 ln.
asciilifeform: ditto the huawei boxes, the voip thing, whatever it was called, and the dozen or so other examples i catalogued in recent months
asciilifeform: iirc somebody sells electric guitar now that is just a stick with painted-on 'strings', and a comp
asciilifeform: mpex -- has www. deedbot. etc
asciilifeform: 'TRUMP hotels on the moon and mars, for starters. For those who want to ENGINEER this (and much, much more), email me at: gabriel valeth laddel @ gmail dot com, using the subject line “MAGA: THE SPACE RACE IS ON”'
asciilifeform: 'Amazon stores all the voice recordings on its servers, in the hopes of using the data to improve its voice assistant services. While you can delete your personal voice data, there's still no way to prevent any recordings from being saved on a server.' << noshit
asciilifeform: somehow i thought that 'an mp' is almost definitionally a d00d who knows ~exactly~ what he wants, and thrusts in that direction, rather like the edge of a knife orients force
asciilifeform: wtf'd be a 'poor mp'
asciilifeform: american ceo is same street monkey but with added jet propulsion, as american street scum, and this is impossible to hide from the latter
asciilifeform: 'Sorry, not going to do it. I know I'm going to hear comments from you: "it's no problem, just do it, works great, it's how it's done nowadays, the standard of practice, everyone does it, you're old fashioned, ignore the overhead, memory is cheap, blah blah blah." Sorry: no. No! This is software complexity pollution. You need one little thing, but then it requires another, and another, and before long you're installing (and maintaini
asciilifeform: ng) a half dozen different subsystems. It's a complexity snowball.'
asciilifeform: for comparison.
asciilifeform: http://www.retro.co.za/ccc/apple2/paulrsm/6502/INTLST.TXT << woz's much more compact (4kB) float-less basic.
asciilifeform: but the implementation.
asciilifeform: about same as mcdonalds employee has input to the deep fryer machine.
asciilifeform: under the vague, limp handholding of 'human' 'programmer'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: mismatched postpress hash should be impossible if fuzz is properly killed.
asciilifeform: theoretical boost of 1.5x of bitrate, in exchange for making the debiaser 1000x moar complex
asciilifeform: y'know, sappers in popular imagination (and sometimes in life) actually clear mines, but just as often simply put little flat into the earth.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'loc == revenue' is simply this century's version of chinese/su 'moar steel, revenue!'
asciilifeform: complexity -- is a cost. that it sometimes also brings something in return, is incidental.
asciilifeform: rather like comparing 'lines of code'
asciilifeform: quite likely there is an eight-figure golden toilet contract right at this very moment to attempt to roster, e.g., ts clearance holders who show symptoms of having used bitcoin. and the like.
asciilifeform: this 'works' is a pestilence and is largely why clueful greybeards from the meat world , e.g., mircea_popescu , unzip and piss on programmers simply for sport
asciilifeform: (it also has entirely separate component that is rivest's 'all or nothing transform')
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-24#1590091 << didja try it? and, importantly, was it with a physical trng?? because noshit , ~prng~ will structurize ...
asciilifeform: here is improved scheme : '10' -> 'step left', '01' --> step right, '11' -> flip current and step left; '00' -> flip current and step right.
asciilifeform: because it is defined as simply the furthestmost '1' explored.
asciilifeform: not necessarily, you have tape as long as you like and simply rsa it in chunks of (keylen/2)
asciilifeform: as example,
asciilifeform: we did not destroy the structure, only made a (slightly) more complicated one.
asciilifeform: however it is also impossible to know in less time than O(N) ~which~ integer
asciilifeform: it is immediately obvious that this (nonturingcomplete) automaton can be used to 'write' any integer
asciilifeform: incidentally, since (to borrow the lament of turing's school headmaster) 'the room already stinks of mathematics', i'll share a tidbit that i promised folx some half year ago and promptly forgot:
asciilifeform: 'Friedman, who specializes in litigation and bankruptcy law, was a key adviser to the incoming Republican president on US-Israel affairs during the presidential campaign.'
asciilifeform: it makes it considerably harder. and, past a certain point, quite impossible.
asciilifeform: if i had any reason to think that turning v tree into a forest of vertical stakes , exponentially crowded with IDENTICAL payloads that cannot be machine-compared , would make it easier to tell friend from foe and wisdom from folly -- i would agree with mircea_popescu's algo. but i do not.
asciilifeform: a+mpseal(a) != a+randoseal(a)
asciilifeform: the mp-ness of a is provided by his seal.
asciilifeform: (this in my original example.)
asciilifeform: the example i just posted involves two people, 'a' and 'b', who follow entirely different paths, come to same place, because they do not know about one another and there is no clock. now you can give them a place to put magical comment, but again they have to have a drumbeat or agreement method of one kind or another, or they can still follow this same path.
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/F4SWa/?raw=true << another example of convergence
asciilifeform: what does the string 'Patch for genesis' do in mircea_popescu's paste example ?
asciilifeform: (this was an aesthetic choice of mine, it can be revoked quite simply)
asciilifeform: see knuth's discussion of garbage collector, for related example.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the antecedent hash in this example ~is~ the entire context, because the example is so short.
asciilifeform: notice, in the munchausen example, we had only 1 file, this is equivalent to 'hash everything'
asciilifeform: the word 'later' implies an order.
asciilifeform: there is unfortunately not an escape from the clock. as per the lamportclock thread.
asciilifeform: but yes, for my simple culprit-finding algo, you DO need well-ordered set of patches.
asciilifeform: (notation seen here is simply the order in which patches apply.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i drew the graph, not seeing what is meant in your example: what means 'now both g->d->e->f->b->a and g->d->c->b->a are valid presses' ?
asciilifeform: instead of a very simple mapping.
asciilifeform: give example of how, using the munchausen set.
asciilifeform: but of course i made them the simple way, by vdiffing from genesis, but then deleting one link of the chain.
asciilifeform: you can make entirely similar example where they do, that still contains loop.
asciilifeform: i'ma post the example.
asciilifeform: and it is trivial to make, if mircea_popescu really wants, i can post an example set , with a toy key, and he can hang his vtron.
asciilifeform: think simply of the chess rule, that any player whk recreates a board position that existed at ANY previous point in the game -- forfeits.
asciilifeform: if this weren't easily detectable, vtronics would be entirely impossible
asciilifeform: if they are ~all~ lolcats, you simply have a null flow.
asciilifeform: (no patches, no sigs, and no wot, or simply 1 or 2 of these)
asciilifeform: this includes empty set
asciilifeform: it is impossible to operate correctly on a cyclical vflow.
asciilifeform: if this orphans a tree branch, it should simply fall off
asciilifeform: computing flow must never fail
asciilifeform: it was computing flow
asciilifeform: but it wasn't pressing in this example
asciilifeform: mod6: it isn't 'missing', your vtron should simply disregard everything that hung below it
asciilifeform: fwiw i definitely wasn't fully 'tuned in' until after the mpex review thing
asciilifeform: 'AI risk is string theory for computer programmers. It's fun to think about, interesting, and completely inaccessible to experiment given our current technology. You can build crystal palaces of thought, working from first principles, then climb up inside them and pull the ladder up behind you.'
asciilifeform: comp could do their work.
asciilifeform: nobody forces you to use comp either
asciilifeform: if you have 'soft' linkages between subservient keys, and no way to 'harden' them for the record, a slick operator could simply shed subpersonalities like snake skins, and there will be doubt in re the contiguity of identity, where there ought be no possibility of doubt.
asciilifeform: actually the relevant mircea_popescu article was another, where he had example of a man who is about to be hanged, but argues that the man who did the crime, is not the one who is bound and led to the gallows
asciilifeform: and there are bound to be mistakes, ranging from the harmless lul to the utter calamity, 'oops i used my 'royal alchemist' stamp instead of 'dildolathe operator by appointment to Her Majesty' stamp'
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's grandfather had a gigantic tray of rubber stamps, of what must have been a dozen different shapes, and when signing a document would first stamp it with the rubber that corresponded to the imperial role in which the signing was to take place. this was orc sop. and i suppose the concept is doomed to stick around.
asciilifeform: there's no 'fixed form' from a key made on public comp tho
asciilifeform: a 'helpful' fella can simply repaste it.
asciilifeform: important thing to remember, though, is that once you sign something, it ~exists~, and you cannot control it by selectively posting it to this-public-site but not that-public-site
asciilifeform: phf: why not one op that dispatches, correctly ? is it as if the compiler ever did not know the actual operand's type ?
asciilifeform: and if this were the only such example!
asciilifeform: and there are entirely good 'scheme is skeletal to the point of complete unusability in factory state' arguments
asciilifeform: i hate to distract mircea_popescu from a good gloat re the impotence of engineer, but i'd like to see where he cuts the subj : viable conlang is impossible because no one remotely understands meat well enough? or, useless, even if it were made ? ... or both ?
asciilifeform: idea was, iirc, to make more compact thing, without 'hair' and irregular cases etc
asciilifeform: it's trivial to implement though.
asciilifeform: the only time a vtron must hard-fail, is when it is impossible for it to operate in finite time, i.e. the case where it detects a graph cycle.
asciilifeform: (it gets a temp dir jail)
asciilifeform: that is, i know of no case where an unsealed, or invalidly sealed, or sealed by nonexistent pubkey, patch, would be pressed without the user having explicitly flipped the red cover and disabled the reactor coolant pump
asciilifeform: all 3 implementation were also (correctly) 'fail-deadly'
asciilifeform: i.e. the mechanism whereby you press a set for own consumption
asciilifeform: cost of failure, sometimes you simply live with. i signed FUCKGOATS, and it is a 'sapper makes 1 mistake' item, it is not possible to repair the units if i had made a mistake.
asciilifeform: so mod6 isn't hallucinating, he simply blindly copied my buggy original.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes had a quite complete exposition on my original vtron
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally a vtron that has my 'origin' op, can check any tree for consistency simply by iterating over the files and running origin(hash_of_file)
asciilifeform: they should simply be ignored.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1587685 << the simplest way to implement this is to iterate over the ~seals~, finding corresponding patches
asciilifeform: 'If there's a middlebox in the Swedish ISP side (theory 1), we should see that HTTP 302 responses come back much faster than HTTP 200 responses, because a hypothetical middlebox will sit between the Swedes and upstream, and therefore may respond much faster than upstream. If there is no middlebox (theory 2) we'd see comparable response times for HTTP 200 and HTTP 302. Of course, no middlebox implies quite strongly that it's the Dai
asciilifeform: even the current thread in #mod6 , is possibly an example
asciilifeform: chinese situation with rocket might be closer example.
asciilifeform: (or modern redditus uses 'found' comp...)
asciilifeform: arguably volcano is poor example, for glass. just as bird is astonishingly dead end for flight.
asciilifeform: (iirc it found a use for automagically opening temple doors when sacrificial pit was lit up)
asciilifeform: aristotelian postulates give you warm feeling of satisfaction; work-with-hands and observations-trump-theory give you ballista.
asciilifeform: it wasn't simply 'they died', their approach to thought, as i pointed out in the start of this thread, is alive and well, 'allah farted and moves electron'
asciilifeform: btw the modern greeks' attempt to unfuck (deturkify) their language, is rather lulzy to trained entomologist
asciilifeform: the strings folx willingly put themselves in the company of irigaray et al when they explicitly pissed on parsimony and physical testability.
asciilifeform: 'used diagrams, like complete tard'
asciilifeform: 'those with title to something worthless will find a way to extract value from it, making it even more worthless. An abandoned suburban subdivision might be worthless as housing, but valuable as a dump site for toxic waste.' (orlol's discussion of 'asset stripping', in http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is not clear to me that a chumpatron operator has to experience any more 'alienation' than a pig farmer. the latter does not particularly care how pigs remember his work. nor the chumpatronist -- how the chumps remember.
asciilifeform: the builder, unless he is exceptionally stupid himself, understands that it will explode. his idea is simply to be somewhere far, far away, when it does.
asciilifeform: 'libcurl's implementation of the printf() functions triggers a buffer overflow when doing a large floating point output. The bug occurs when the conversion outputs more than 255 bytes.'
asciilifeform: it is possible to make a platinum-iridium fork. and possibly it will stain less after dishwasher! but is not fundamental improvement on concept of 'fork'
asciilifeform: i can picture variations that increase cost (e.g., higher bitrate, and internal battery) but the basic idea cannot be improved, no.
asciilifeform: given as it is not physically possible to audit an analogue rng in the same sense as one can audit the digital board (i.e. by putting a TB of random through it, and comparing what comes out other end to the expected), i expect that plenty of folks will choose to build their own analogue unit.
asciilifeform: gotta have the complete design.
asciilifeform: for some reason the only thing that came immediately to mind is the 'piss_on_patents' flag, or what was it, that you used to have to set on linux box to get mp3 and truetype going
asciilifeform: at a certain point, if you attempt the operation, you start to ask 'why is there satoshi crapolade in my bitcoin2.0' rather than 'ooh neato, a repaired trb!'
asciilifeform: it is quite plainly an example of (C)
asciilifeform: which is, that simply getting a valid block takes your node out of action for 5-15 min !
asciilifeform: initially idea was that it would be a kind of load balance arrangement, if one were in blackhole state, connections would rout to other. but in the end i did not bother with this, and simply let one hang behind the other, and used the setup simply to observe how 'blackholing' propagates.
asciilifeform: and never need other mempool tx.
asciilifeform: i'll add to this that in trb as we have it, you ONLY need blockchain to verify a potential mempool tx
asciilifeform: we get a block (dulap already saw same block; it was valid.) which simply takes ages to verify.
asciilifeform: and it'd be a few megabyte of swamp
asciilifeform: so we get a snapshot of the, say, 20 minutes of tcpdump prior to node entering blackhole state.
asciilifeform: at the same time, tcpdump is running
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it'd have to be continuously dumped
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-20#1586638 << i was able to reproduce a very similar effect. simply throw blocks at a node that don't fail verification until the very end.
asciilifeform: 'The raw power of computers has advanced at a stunning speed, but has this advance translated into a comparable improvement in their usefulness? Word processing, to take the most obvious example, hasn't fundamentally improved since the late '80s. And in the view of many people I know, WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS was actually better for their purposes than any of the bloatware that has followed.'
asciilifeform: 'cheap' in the antique comp business means in practice 'everyone who wants, has'. as, e.g., 'commodore 64', vs, say, lispm.
asciilifeform reads on, in sidebar, 'Dec 13: For your Bitcoin payments, remember that we need the Coinbase transaction ID in order to track your deposit. We encourage you to write down that ID to avoid delays in your Bitcoin payment processing. Thanks for your comprehension.'
asciilifeform: i think that is the longest list of spampaypals-and-demonstratively-not-bitcoin i've seen since 2009.
asciilifeform: btw i dug out, long ago, a crackpot implementation in one 'baremetal os' (actual title) of supposedly-it. it dun work on any actual iron i was able to buy.
asciilifeform: btw, p=?=np esoterica aside, 'never say never' in re algorithmic complexities. it is possible to make a number-theoretic 'blockchain' where you check for unspentness by euclid's gcd, for instance. many things are theoretically possible. but this thread afaik is about traditional bitcoin.
asciilifeform: trinque: this is a physical impossibility
asciilifeform: (does anyone understand why i put, e.g., 'v', together, the way i did? or the lamportron?)
asciilifeform: and guess where THIS IS ALREADY IMPLEMENTED
asciilifeform: programming would perhaps be a similarly honourable profession as piloting, with similar calibre of people, if only it were possible to kill yourself just as easily with mistreated computer as with airplane.
asciilifeform: davout: chances are there is a crackpot pseudoimplementation of bitcoin in every language, cobol, malbolge, befunge, by this point. they are of 0 interest because not trb !
asciilifeform: flush motherfucking mempool.
asciilifeform: if i want to flush the mempool, ditto.
asciilifeform: well yes, in the literal martian scenario, 'what do i do if a shell hits my trench?' 'jump up twenty metres and scatter yourself around'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/fP5Ce >> 'Trump’s insistence on channeling Putin’s propaganda may reflect a more permanent and creepier mindset that refuses to see Russia as a foe of the West. If the latter, how far will this go — blocking sanctions? Acceding to Russian aggression? The suspicion that Trump is Putin’s lapdog has cast a shadow over his secretary of state nominee, who is distinguished only by his chumminess with Putin.' << t
asciilifeform: from whence this 'presumption of innocence' for usg scum.
asciilifeform: which remains as simple today as it ever was.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sometimes 'grandfather's pistol' problem is complicated when it becomes evident that grandfather never actually shot anyone with his pistol
asciilifeform: it is not such a simple thing, ben_vulpes . you can choose which game to play, by some rules -- they own, by others -- they do not.
asciilifeform: say martians show up with magical comp that can orphan 2009 blocks
asciilifeform: elsewhere, in nearby monkeystans, https://archive.is/5Q1U8 >> 'Venezuela’s president said Sunday that the sudden decision to scrap the country’s most-used currency bill was an economic triumph over the country’s enemies even as the government sent troops and police to cities where riots and looting broke out over the measure. In a national radio and television broadcast, Nicolas Maduro said his abrupt action had flooded the cou
asciilifeform: 'But the experts could not think of another example of a president-elect continuing with any private security after Election Day, when Secret Service protection expands dramatically for the winner. In fact, most candidates drop any outside security the moment they’re granted Secret Service protection. Trump’s spending on private security, on the other hand, actually increased after he was granted Secret Service protection in Nove
asciilifeform: (qt, believe or not, does, a standard cpp compiler won't eat raw qt code)
asciilifeform: this was in the 'complete words of satoshi' deadtree i bought some years ago
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm experimenting with not-attempting-every-possible-thing-with-own-hands
asciilifeform: so mod6's simple 'search after $blocknum' worx.
asciilifeform: probably. i imagine the use case for this knob is simple, 'i want to know if i've been paid, and the counterparty has no time machine, so it'll happen some time after $lastblock'
asciilifeform: 0055 template <size_t nBytes, typename T>
asciilifeform: it is entirely possible to test 'bitcoin from 2009' simply by running from empty blockchain on lan.
asciilifeform: speaking of trumplincton, the actual ceremony is apparently today.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the ~hardware box~ is becoming less common. most of the derps are watching on comp now.
asciilifeform: 1958-78 or so, mit was one of the 2 or 3 worthwhile things happening in computing per se.
asciilifeform: 'The Jewish Culture Committee wrote back to Adolf Martin advising him to accept the offer because according to their inside information, the Jew Artur Israel Pollak was scheduled to be deported soon to the Generalgouvernement (occupied Poland) and would probably end up in the Warsaw ghetto. Adolf Martin then agreed to the proposal hoping that, in the event that Pollak’s belongings were auctioned off he would finally get a lump sum an
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1585322 << the linked piece suggested that he was properly broken by the jailers, walks around terrified that even his usg-issued winblows comp is too much of a sin
asciilifeform: perhaps better example is how airplane with 'tricycle' landing gear is steered while 'taxiing'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1585299 << i was referring to the actual, meatspace phenomenon where a man lacking a compass in a desert will walk in circles and die, being as no one's legs are of precisely identical length
asciilifeform: btw folx may be interested to learn that the LM393 op-amp IS available from old soviet stock
asciilifeform: see? very simple
asciilifeform: Framedragger: correct, and the analogue rngs have to be sampled through a latch clocked by same clock
asciilifeform: btw in case there are folx who are not familiar with logic layout, this is not a comp proggy in the usual sense, it compiles to gate netlist
asciilifeform: btw when i see symptoms that anybody has read fg.v i will tell an exciting story.
asciilifeform: at compile-time -- only if the language is properly constrained
asciilifeform: at runtime -- only if the cpu is 'smart' , or if the compiler stuffs in the check every single time
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so then. no such thing. it is ~impossible to machine anything useful out of code, if it were possible, it would be done by compiler and the ~language per se~ would include this intelligence.
asciilifeform: '...if Trump’s already calling for the cancellation of the Air Force One program, he could just as easily target the F-35 — and that’s a potential disaster for Northern Utah.' << ohnoez, 1,000,001 leeches might starve!
asciilifeform: http://www.standard.net/Our-View/2016/12/07/DonaldTrump-AirForceOne-costs-Boeing-F35-HillAirForceBase-Utah-RobBishop-OrrinHatch-editorial.html << related
asciilifeform: this part of trb is completely virginal 0.5.3 btw
asciilifeform: in mempool
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you have empty blockchain ? (genesis only ) ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo compulsively collects 'lemons' or wat.
asciilifeform: sometimes i get impression that folx are posting from a parallel world
asciilifeform: the hilarious part is that the ~actual~ impetus for the funding was lizards who understood that eventually someone ~will~ find a way to gas'em; and as soon as it became clear that the antidote will not remove all sequelae from gassing, the funding -- evaporated.
asciilifeform: 'On Sunday, the 28th of November 2010 around 20:00 UTC the main distribution server of the ProFTPD project was compromised. The attackers most likely used an unpatched security issue in the FTP daemon to gain access to the server and used their privileges to replace the source files for ProFTPD 1.3.3c with a version which contained a backdoor....'
asciilifeform: 'If you are an Intel employee, you must prefix your normal windows idsid ' << l0l!!!
asciilifeform: and listen to the 'music of silence' from the kompooter s333k00000r1ty folx...