ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: also i don't know who uses rmax for structural elements
ben_vulpes: load tests are in order
ben_vulpes: mix boric acid in
ben_vulpes: what need have we of rmax when we can make papercrete
ben_vulpes: https://www.opencart.com/index.php?route=cms/company << oh god "our team"
ben_vulpes: lol that danielkerr character
ben_vulpes: EXCITING
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598703 << ternary is neat and all, but have you considered implementing arc atop colorforth?
ben_vulpes: in other clojure bashings: https://chriskohlhepp.wordpress.com/functional-programming-section/metacircular-adventures-in-functional-abstraction-challenging-clojure-in-common-lisp/
ben_vulpes: i like the notion of an anti-system
ben_vulpes: great
ben_vulpes: funny, i had that thought when his photo went by in a link earlier today
ben_vulpes: cheap lesson, no harm incurred so far.
ben_vulpes: i did ask for clarification though
ben_vulpes: yeah i see where i misread there now.
ben_vulpes: you said "online is ovh's waifu" and i said "i have nfi what that oldfag gibberish means"
ben_vulpes: v timely, ty davout
ben_vulpes: psa: always press your vpatches
ben_vulpes: i don't know what sort of apology is due here as clearly nobody has ever even tried to apply those patches through a strict v, but i'm still going to go slam my head in a door until i get some of the stupid out
ben_vulpes: so duh, vdiff does not guarantee patches will be sensible in a v tree, and it is incumbent upon a patch-grinder to ensure their patches actually apply cleanly.
ben_vulpes: a question i have been wondering about for long is "why does the trb tree sit in a 'bitcoin' directory, wherever it's pressed", but it is not particularly irrelevant.
ben_vulpes: now, the patches apply cleanly if the patch utility is not passed -p1, but this makes for much floppiness.
ben_vulpes: and trinque following precedent
ben_vulpes: trinque may confirm: i believe that this is due to asciilifeform grinding (trb-)genesis.vpatch from an a/ and b/ containing a directory 'bitcoin'
ben_vulpes: s/passive voice/active voice
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/ircbot-multiple-channels and http://btcbase.org/patches/logbot-multiple-channels were ground diffing directories a/ and b/ with the relevant files therein, and the genesis patches for both trees ground from directories called 'ircbot' and 'logbot' respectively containing the relevant files
ben_vulpes: aha, i have made a mistake!
ben_vulpes: i realize in this moment that i did not miss the phuctorings.
ben_vulpes: hm
ben_vulpes: #clim report, day whatever: #clim appears to be 90% join/part spam from reineisch, 9% j/p from others, and 1% this beach feller saying "good morning everyone"
ben_vulpes: in other meat, holy shiksa brisket buttman
ben_vulpes: LET THE PHUCTORING RESUME
ben_vulpes: fuuuuuck pete that's a truck
ben_vulpes: bbl, unholy quantities of meat have arrived
ben_vulpes: if i tell him there was an ice or crypto or ruin of usg thread he'll eat a few weeks in one sitting
ben_vulpes: with decent frequency
ben_vulpes: something lawyers buy to feel like not-new-money?
ben_vulpes: see ya round liquidassets
ben_vulpes: aren't porsches like a cheap expensive watch?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: dude it's everywhere
ben_vulpes: CLIM CLIM CLIM
ben_vulpes waves at $bzprtnr
ben_vulpes: still, plastic nightmare of a modern car.
ben_vulpes: bitch /pulls/
ben_vulpes: 3rd would be the turbo
ben_vulpes: NO FUCKING SCREENS
ben_vulpes: 2nd best thing about car?
ben_vulpes: passenger cannot see speedo.
ben_vulpes: best thing about the car?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: on the topic of dashboards, $bzprtnr got a 2012 wrx
ben_vulpes: speed, and how hard the engine is working.
ben_vulpes: there are 2 important readings in a car, and one of 'em can be had from your butt.
ben_vulpes: gimme back my tach and speedo
ben_vulpes: lol fuckin gross pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: but yeah, possibly a market for "cloud-backup" dash/full 360 streaming hardware
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it points *backwards*
ben_vulpes: liquidassets: nah, just haven't seen you in the forum for a while up until that connection.
ben_vulpes: and now, i will likely never buy a new vehicle.
ben_vulpes: and to think, i left an entire industry because one engineer at the firm when questioned about wasting money on a brand new vw microshitbox said "i just think everyone should own a brand new car once in their lifetime"
ben_vulpes: there will be no escaping computers and screens and soi-disant 'cockpits'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you may be amused, rumor suggests mandatory backup cams in the near future
ben_vulpes: yes please, blue light and screens at night while i drive
ben_vulpes: yes please, random screen twiddling in my peripheral vision while i drive
ben_vulpes: they make the non automated cars utterly unsafe to drive
ben_vulpes: heh this is how the industry moves to automated cars
ben_vulpes: not "correction", but "yellowing" if it makes less of a ffs
ben_vulpes: zero regard for night vision of driver
ben_vulpes: screens with no gamma correction
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: let me guess, blue light everywhere
ben_vulpes: spurious factors
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you ever figure out the source of the spuriata?
ben_vulpes: where you been
ben_vulpes: !!up liquidassets
ben_vulpes: ;)
ben_vulpes: OH WAIT
ben_vulpes: if only it could also evaluate itself
ben_vulpes: hah fml my v implementation presses into the same directory as that as which contains the patches and seals
ben_vulpes: battery tie down rod simply failed under torsional load: "that...didn't feel like the rust giving way. jesus /fuck/."
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: no breaker bar necessary, these were 10mm fuckers
ben_vulpes: bbl
ben_vulpes: could just be for wot, point is nothing for allcomers
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: we're talking usgpennies here
ben_vulpes: we have a log attributing lines to wot members whence this nonsense i ask you
ben_vulpes: oh ffs
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: needs no dependency on deedbot
ben_vulpes: and whoever !!up's someone is on the hook for the cost of archiving their links.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: from the log!
ben_vulpes: should be a paid service, really, debiting the accounts of whomever pastes the link
ben_vulpes: ah which reminds me, gotta go lubricate the child
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: child will get distracted by the wonder that is a fistful of pb tho
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: likely less amusing than you'd expect, scarcity is key to conflict
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: ganbatte
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: patch says what antecedent file hashes it stemmed from, no?
ben_vulpes: ah, the "roots" thread?
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: yeah phf makes a point: kill -9 can hose data.
ben_vulpes: didn't like the thought of you wasting your time on operating system reboots
ben_vulpes: groovy, nbd
ben_vulpes: you can nuke a stuck node in place without having to restart the whole machine.
ben_vulpes: did you ever grok what i said about kill -9?
ben_vulpes: couldn't tell ya, i killed the process and ran it again without the flag in question
ben_vulpes: strace showed LOTS OF FUCKING READS which got me thinking in the right direction
ben_vulpes: i left -verifyall in my node's boot script for some reason, took me a minute to figure out why it was taking forever to reboot the other day
ben_vulpes: heh
ben_vulpes: phf: aye
ben_vulpes: phf: saw it, gracias!
ben_vulpes: thank yew!
ben_vulpes: the link with both patch and seal is http://cascadianhacker.com/overall-improvements
ben_vulpes: also if you'd be so kind as to add http://cascadianhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017_cleanup.vpatch to your tree i'd be much obliged. if the hopper is working again just let me know and i'll dump vpatches in there
ben_vulpes: for the * patch
ben_vulpes: phf: consider making http://btcbase.org/patches/*/seal/ return a plaintext list of seals?
ben_vulpes: lotsa jewesses today mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it boggles.
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you're the one damaging snr tonight
ben_vulpes: it was low, then you lost your key, now i don't even wat
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you realize that every day you continue faffing about like this the odds anyone here will pay one red cent for masamune goes down?
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: omg come back with a reproducible build
ben_vulpes: hey ovh why does it take more than fifteen seconds to charge a cc? what do you use, bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: !!up gabriel_laddel_p
ben_vulpes: now if gabriel_laddel_p has returned to say "omfg you said you would" the fun continues!
ben_vulpes: anything other than "yeah i'll get right on it" is a "no" in my book
ben_vulpes: not necessarily that shitty of an attitude in this case Framedragger
ben_vulpes: i have nfi dude
ben_vulpes: beirc shits itself when i run it naively. complaints re no generic function for cl-irc:nickname or the like
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: mnemnion_ is back
ben_vulpes: chop chop lol the stones on this guy
ben_vulpes: bbl spawn awakens
ben_vulpes: sure, gotcha
ben_vulpes: new shiny entails capture of everything that comes out of irc servers and service/command module
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: do you want an ircbot to play with "now" and migration to trinque's new shiny be damned or do you want to wait for the new shiny?
ben_vulpes: granted it's 30F out
ben_vulpes: even the mighty pblaster could not free them
ben_vulpes: yeah
ben_vulpes: joy
ben_vulpes: battery tie nuts were so solidly adhesed to the ties that the rod snapped
ben_vulpes: gentoo car quest complete
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: you may continue to comment on my blog, others may continue to bitch, there is no pleasing everyone
ben_vulpes: !!up gabriel_laddel_p
ben_vulpes: "awog" == "america was once great"?
ben_vulpes: hola davout
ben_vulpes: well having failed to extract the battery from the dead car i must now do the aforementioned food run but also to get a 10mm deep socket
ben_vulpes: confuse ye not the promiscuous devices with the chaste devices or what was it
ben_vulpes: pardon?
ben_vulpes: deeds not words
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: get with Framedragger just fix it
ben_vulpes: i gotta do a food and battery run before these roads ice over, bbl
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: customization aside, .13 for a year of hosting and .17 for a year of support and reboots?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you want your code to run on every new message?
ben_vulpes: i'm down for scarification, but only the high-entropy kind that comes of abrading self against road
ben_vulpes: but stick and poke is so hip
ben_vulpes: subject of painting metal sheds, i just discovered "papercrete"
ben_vulpes: aside from bespeaking poverty of taste and pocket?
ben_vulpes: howl at the blood moon or something i have no iea
ben_vulpes: in related occlusions: http://68.media.tumblr.com/f9c61a195d1bb7b6e3ed3a4dcc404f79/tumblr_ohozg1Qm4a1r6pbcio2_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: trainflake nice missed that on the first pass
ben_vulpes: lol omfg rescue dog food from child, only to be blessed by cries of anger when dog takes banana from child
ben_vulpes: nanners are pretty cheap
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: counteroffer impending, rescuing dog food from child
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i mean to say "if it gets mircea_popescu to write and think in lisp its a worthwhile use of lines"
ben_vulpes: :D
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i'd rather read your experiments in lisp than php
ben_vulpes: trinque: aye
ben_vulpes: oh then it'd work for you as-is
ben_vulpes: protocol lines include server banners etc
ben_vulpes: mhm. it's the ACTION lines that it doesn't catch.
ben_vulpes: ah that's right
ben_vulpes: not eg privmsg and action
ben_vulpes: currently trinquebot only logs vanilla messages in its channels
ben_vulpes: the patch to the trinquebot
ben_vulpes: let's say 2 btc, and that'll cover the patch to record all protocol lines as well
ben_vulpes: ooh pricing exercises
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: sql, lisp if you like
ben_vulpes: trinque: any action on recording all message lines or is that a patch i should cook?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598150 << i would be happy to stand a trinquebot up for you
ben_vulpes: smells rather strongly of "read" == "rolled eyeballs over"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: clarify "what moves"?
ben_vulpes: i kid, i kid.
ben_vulpes: do eet on muh blergh
ben_vulpes: plx to blockquote
ben_vulpes: augh gabriel_laddel_p i'm formatting your comment into sanity
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you probably know this but each post has an rss feed for its comments as well
ben_vulpes: coffee nao
ben_vulpes: tumblr
ben_vulpes: er
ben_vulpes: aaand trilema down! a+, yahoo.
ben_vulpes: fixing my wp template heinous though it definitely is is not anywhere near the top of my list of things to do
ben_vulpes: i'm one more 'undefined is not a function' away from moving to boring and raising cashmere goats
ben_vulpes: but you must content yourself with http://cascadianhacker.com/comments/feed for now
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598017 << i too would like this very much!
ben_vulpes: my how times have changed
ben_vulpes: http://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/?single=1 << "Moreover, we need not dismiss out of hand as totally parochial or mean-spirited the desire of Yankee Americans to maintain an ethnically and religiously homogeneous society nor the particular Protestant commitments to individualism and freedom that were brought into play."
ben_vulpes: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ciagov/7190344459/in/album-72157630223818672/ << thick, thick lols
ben_vulpes: the correct compiler!
ben_vulpes: > To install the correct compiler, run:
ben_vulpes: LinkedInâs major asset is its 414 million users and the economic graph it drawws
ben_vulpes: when trying to get shit done
ben_vulpes: every day
ben_vulpes: that is what i want
ben_vulpes: yes i want fewer features and prettier widgets that fit in with my os aesthetic
ben_vulpes: pgAdmin 4 is a feature rich open source PostgreSQL client. It has support for almost every feature in PostgreSQL. The only downside is that the cross-plattform UI really doesnât live up to the expectations of a native Mac app.Postico on the other hand, is a very modern Mac app. Itâs made by the same people that maintain Postgres.app, and we think youâll like it!
ben_vulpes: imma sit here mashing refresh on trinque.org
ben_vulpes: i'll refrain from further.
ben_vulpes: no, being glib. point is that gadgets can be made to look however.
ben_vulpes: can i slam other pngs in there? probably. great.
ben_vulpes: it is the least interesting thing.
ben_vulpes: yeah, emerge, network managers, gui wrappers around os stuff is very uninteresting (but i suppose useful in the case of eg fs browser 'dired' and climacsy presentations). what i *want* is a lispy gui toolkit and i do not give one screaming fuck re "omg ancient athena widgets"
ben_vulpes: give up, write everything in cpp and python, right?
ben_vulpes: i will not write this theorem in cocoa, qt, wx, or any of the ilk.
ben_vulpes: even if it's a pile of shit g_l found and tar'd up.
ben_vulpes: four hundred dollars is a pittance to pay for a documented common lisp ui development story
ben_vulpes shakes feathered stick at sky, demands marvelous widget be brought
ben_vulpes: phf: hm?
ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel_p: http://cascadianhacker.com/how-to-learn-programming/comment-page-1#comment-137
ben_vulpes: k, ty
ben_vulpes: i understand some amount of "x is risky", but...specifics are scant so far
ben_vulpes: what are the security risks of opening an ssh connection to a possibly hostile host?
ben_vulpes: o o
ben_vulpes: what is "maga"?
ben_vulpes: i'm not particularly bent about the sorting, 'twas simply what made me look at the linked stanzas in curiosity. curious about "what of it", as you say.
ben_vulpes: aye
ben_vulpes: yeah i'm in the same boat.
ben_vulpes: morning davout
ben_vulpes: notion, iirc, was to make a "release" vpatch that added *something* to *every file in the tree* to neck the patch graph down
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you see http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 ?
ben_vulpes: you advocated this at one other point too, right?
ben_vulpes: not inverted, as far as i can tell it's a fine place in the flow for it to be. i'm a bit discomfited, and am poking an old thread about "release vpatches" that seems to have surfaced unexplainedly in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: eh, the leaving of free money on the ground baffles me.
ben_vulpes: also what's the deal with these single-tx blocks http://logs.bvulpes.com/chainstate#46
ben_vulpes: open topic for when folks wake up i suppose.
ben_vulpes: so i cracked everything open, and sure enough the patch in question doesn't touch any files touched in the makefiles vpatch
ben_vulpes: anyways this came to my attention when i had the privkey tools vpatch on my table and it showed up *above* makefiles.vpatch in the output of both our flow utils, which spooked me
ben_vulpes: well of discussing said stanza
ben_vulpes: mod6: on previous thread, i have a vague memory of stuffing a RELEASE stanza in every file of a release to neck the tree down
ben_vulpes: my jimmies ain't even rustled, par for the course
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: one of the several emacs shell thingers
ben_vulpes: mod6: what was the reasoning behind http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles#L378 again?
ben_vulpes: k, never using that again
ben_vulpes: > Eshell does not support input redirection
ben_vulpes: what i want is a "bitch do the obvious thing" switch
ben_vulpes: i'm sure it's all very useful in the prevention of foot-shoosting but ugh
ben_vulpes: no-clobber options, delete-target options
ben_vulpes: no it's all clever and shit
ben_vulpes: naively, i figured cp simply overwrote the target
ben_vulpes: oh cool
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: aha yes i play the exact opposite game. "oh, the recycling bin is the big one? great, that's where everything goes."
ben_vulpes: http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw2kn8Aead1qzpam5o1_1280.jpg << "with powerstache and fighting paunch!"
ben_vulpes: "it's fighting PUNCH not fighting PAUNCH you nincompoops!"
ben_vulpes: that'd be the joke, yes