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a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 14:22 mircea_popescu: re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?
deedbot: accepted: 1
ben_vulpes: mod6: please approve ^^ and ping teh treasurer for payment
ben_vulpes: !!invoice trinque 0.00890489 pro-rated march hosting
ben_vulpes: !!v E132D04C2B6FCB8A9BC5736A369297E0EE4E6533B6DB58FBCAC78A2E571790A5
deedbot: Invoiced trinque 0.00890489 << pro-rated march hosting
ben_vulpes: !!invoice trinque 0.11985394 server couriering
ben_vulpes: !!v 0D700B85EA72DF84CC0400E6947C3662D752AB337F7875B6E030916ADAB4E39F
deedbot: Invoiced trinque 0.11985394 << server couriering
mod6: ben_vulpes: sure, I'll look this over and get back to you.
ben_vulpes: !!invoice hanbot .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
ben_vulpes: !!v 678DCA5FB9BE021DB7EDF4FB2EBD286217B0F68264E04268BF7FE9D397FEB902
deedbot: Invoiced hanbot .00067742 << pro-rated march shared hosting
ben_vulpes: !!invoice lobbes .00067742 pro-rated march shared hosting
ben_vulpes: !!v 8A2623E1A3F6A1A287AC79772D9EC3A3CE84FE941CE8A9FB81983BEA9693E573
deedbot: Invoiced lobbes .00067742 << pro-rated march shared hosting
ben_vulpes: spam over, thank you for your patience
mircea_popescu: you know you should probably consolidate invoices, it'\s a pain in the ass to pay the same person 3 or n times in the same day/week
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i suppose the thing to do is invoice once with a link to the deeded linen items
ben_vulpes: in other news, i think that fare broke the "simple-date" behavior in the cl "postmodern" postgresql client library
ben_vulpes: > Fix .asd files so they work well with ASDF 3.3
ben_vulpes: another delightful play date with little georgie open soros
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not such a good idea to introduce more moving parts. but simply "n = x for a + y for b + z for c"
ben_vulpes: makes sense
mircea_popescu: and in other postmodern wonders, where japanese pixels meet http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319805 ; or self-resolving inadequacy : https://chastityandcensorship.tumblr.com/
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-26 15:36 mircea_popescu: somehow, notwithstanding how san fernando valley dominated hollywood for half of the 80s and most of the 90s, the mpaa still reflects "the movie industry" views of state st, rather than either hollywood or porn valley.
mircea_popescu: i would suppose this is why http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-11-3#232863 ; and apparently it fucking works, too. maybe if they get bored enough they'll self-vacupack and http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2017-11-8#235412
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:31 asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment
ben_vulpes: (mircea_popescu: "fromsearch" is live on my loggotron)
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789669 <-- of course, I'd be glad to! though I agree with diana_coman's observation that I'm a candidate but maybe not fit for lordship yet (perhaps a superfluous comment on my part, but since you asked)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 14:22 mircea_popescu: re http://trilema.com/2018/the-rivers-of-blood-article-or-the-lordship-list-fifth-year/ << spyked ave1 do you even want to be l1'd ?
ben_vulpes: aha, yw
ave1: diana_coman: It seems that links posted my reply halfway, feel free to delete this one http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/01/11/eucrypt-chapter-5-c-m-e-mod-n/#comment-1132
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes : http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-27#320135 << it should read both lines.
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-27 07:13 mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-11-03 12:31 asciilifeform: i still dun fully grasp the middle kingdom's 'feed the enemy until he dies of old age' philosophy, so cannot comment
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why so it should
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: thx
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/the-snows-of-ten-years-ago-almost/ << Trilema - The snows of ten years ago (almost)
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: fixed, ty. i'll get to the multiple-links thing later
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/03/militia-veteran-of-oregon-liberation-campaign-ryan-bundy-running-for-nevada-governorship/ << Qntra - Militia Veteran Of Oregon Liberation Campaign Ryan Bundy Running For Nevada Governorship
mircea_popescu: aaaahahaha
BingoBoingo: 250 signatures is the bar for getting his name printed on the ballot. Bring da sutures for da pantsuit buttleakx
mircea_popescu: that country's a whole other level of comedy gold.
mircea_popescu: it'ds also strictly speaking not quite incoinceivable he actually wins. nevada is small.
BingoBoingo: The best part is this isn't even the photogenic brother. This is the one whose face got run over by a car and droops. But yes he can win.
BingoBoingo: Nevada is small except for the part where it holds vegas... Very winnable.
mircea_popescu: depends how the campaign goes. but if people turn out to actually give a shit about "stood up in arms to federal govt and won", heck, he's got it.
BingoBoingo: Right, nothing's a sure thing. Pantsuit is eating their Facebook of all things. US politics is getting deliciously weird on the way to the flush.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1) worx, will set it up nao 2) got it, will set it up asap
mircea_popescu: trinque could the deedbot be strengthened with a) a rss page on the site, along the lines of http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-26#319646 ; whereby i can visit http://deedbot.org/6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452/feed where all items of interest (incoming payments and invoices as well as deeds signed by me) are announced (as rsa encrypted to my key items) ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-26 01:41 mircea_popescu: incidentally, "every shop must have a website (with ssl everywhere!!!)" and "every customer must have a loyalty card" trends of useless nonsense somehow haven't converged to the most basic sanity of, "give us your rsa pubkey, then download your data from our website whenever you want to, just go to shop.com/yourname"
mircea_popescu: then b) becomes just having the bot subscribe to that feed.
trinque: pretty hesitant to continue to build the republican dependency on the web browser.
mircea_popescu: where does this depend on browser ?
mircea_popescu: or do you mean take the rss thing out altogether ?
hanbot: p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Sqn1u/?raw=true << anyone else ever seen this wonder?
mircea_popescu: hanbot wtf ?
mircea_popescu: i presume you have phf's key in ?
hanbot: in .wot, i do.
mircea_popescu: same behaviour for all nodes or just that ?
asciilifeform: this looks like a classic missing-commandline-util barf
asciilifeform: most likely sha512
trinque: mircea_popescu: depends on "web" I should've said. I'd sooner skip the RSS feed part and have the bot directly message folks when interesting things happen. the usefulness of this is blunted by the fact that currently gossipd is implemented by gpg-paste.
hanbot: just that node, mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: ( iirc mod6 introduced a check in a recent edition of his vtron, but possible that hanbot has the old one ? )
hanbot: i do have the old mod6 vtron, i'll look @ new, ty asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: trinque there's two layers here. layer 1 : there's a lot of flexibility in letting it be rss ; i can have a rss reader read it for me rather than put all failure points in freenode-dns.
mircea_popescu: layer 2, the general point : rss is very visible an irc-driven reaction to web idiocy. it's the web-less-est thing on the web, and for the very plain and evident consideration tha the web is wrong, EXACTLY in the way discussed here re alphabet etc, "do not ye pretend to tell the user how to display data".
asciilifeform: hanbot: waitasec
asciilifeform: hanbot: mod6's old vtron did not support 'verbose'
mircea_popescu: i suspect that however you turn it, something LIKE rss we will have to have, and that like is so close as to not make the killing worth the bullets.
trinque: mircea_popescu: this and also "I can't push you anything"
asciilifeform: hanbot: so your press head in the args ended up word 'verbose'
mircea_popescu: but i'd like to discuss this.
trinque: certainly the thing is needed in the abstract. service exists and user wants a stream of happenings.
trinque: just want to cogitate on which implementation will least obstruct future sanity
mircea_popescu: then this makes it open season for that.
mircea_popescu: nice catch there asciilifeform lolz
hanbot: ooo ty asciilifeform, quite right. now how did i end up with old vtron and new usermanual, lol
hanbot: oh man, you have any idea how much time you prolly just saved me? phew
asciilifeform: np hanbot
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, did you know pigs actually have lower fat ratios than human females ? 70% or so muscle dem ripped oinkers.
BingoBoingo: Pigs also do more bad sports drugs than most ballsketsport players
mircea_popescu: wait a damned second.
mircea_popescu: phf does your new vdiff (that's supposed to introduce keccak into the build flow) actually REQUIRE the presser ALREADY HAVE keccak ?
asciilifeform: !!up fromloper
deedbot: fromloper voiced for 30 minutes.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-27#1789989 << no, it's diffed with sha512 differ (a keccak vpatch wouldn't link into existing graph either, since hashes won't match)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-27 18:06 mircea_popescu: phf does your new vdiff (that's supposed to introduce keccak into the build flow) actually REQUIRE the presser ALREADY HAVE keccak ?
phf: vtools graph that's on btcbase is all sha512
phf: (but just to further clarify, vtools patchset is all SHA512, so pressing it will work with all the existing tooling. vtools's vdiff can be pressed to have either keccak or sha512 support. vtools's vpatch at the moment can be pressed to have keccak support only.)
phf: right now keccak/sha512 vpatches are not differentiated in any way, so having both of them in the same workflow might result in confusion (in fact it did when i was testing things at some point). it might be worthwhile to introduce some kind of hash tagging scheme, eg keccak:<hash> vs sha512:<hash> and keep <hash> without prefix as sha512 for legacy reasons.
phf: i've avoided any particular scheme, because it might introduce equivalence that doesn't exist. sha512 as an "alternative" vs. sha512 as aggressively deprecated.
mod6: <+hanbot> p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Sqn1u/?raw=true << anyone else ever seen this wonder? << you're missing a output directory
mod6: <+asciilifeform> hanbot: mod6's old vtron did not support 'verbose' << pretty sure always did -- at least going back 2 years, aha.
mod6: hanbot: should have been, perhaps: ./v.pl p v vtools vtools-vpatch.vpatch
mod6: or if you'd rather: ./v.pl press verbose vtools vtools-vpatch.vpatch
mod6: (where 'vtools' is the press output directory)
mod6: <+hanbot> ooo ty asciilifeform, quite right. now how did i end up with old vtron and new usermanual, lol << oh, herp, didn't even see this.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-27#1789892 << looks good to me ben_vulpes.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-27 05:21 ben_vulpes: mod6: please approve ^^ and ping teh treasurer for payment
mod6: jurov^ The above is a Pizarro invoice for services rendered to The Bitcoin Foundation during the Month of March. Please remit the amount indicated to the address indicated in the deed. Thanks in advance! Please let me know if you have any questions.
jurov: okay
mircea_popescu: phf cool. and yeah, keeping an eye on this for now.
shinohai: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-27#320406 <<< and I thank you for the hours of instruction not only on trb, but V as well. Has been a pleasure and an honour, Sir! o7
phf: moar wrecker crypto code found in build stack here https://p11-glue.github.io/p11-glue/
mod6: shinohai: yvw
asciilifeform: phf: where exactly in build stack ?
phf: asciilifeform: building weechat on a work laptop using homebrew. i mean, that's deep behind enemy lines, so it's not surprising, but i'm fascinated by the increasing levels of fail
asciilifeform: aah sslism
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