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ben_vulpes: rip lc
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re. http://trilema.com/2015/trilema-burns/ : you write that "Apparently the EU is about as impotent in practice as its fame for impotence promises in theory" in response to you being able to search for that person on google.com.ar ; whereas that letter plainly states that "Only results on European versions of Google are affected."
Framedragger: I am of course not disagreeing with the spirit of the matter, incl. regarding impotence etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it, they lack the letters a and r on eu keyboards ?
mircea_popescu: are you proposing that there's some sort of substance to an url, like "searching on google.com.ar" is somehow similar to "fucking girls in the alley behind the bar IN ROUEN rather than Bekescsaba" ?
Framedragger: i'm sure that google did not want to do more than was required, so they made the effects visible on the "european" version of google, for european users (the latter identified by ip address or, if logged into google accounts, selected country there; or somesuch).
mircea_popescu: there's exactly no relation between url and geolocation is there ?
Framedragger: so yes it's super trivial, but then - .eu can't dictate google's search results for non-european customers
mircea_popescu: in the end i'm not sure what you're saying.
mircea_popescu: "but mp, in the game they're playing this makes sense to them" "okay ?"
Framedragger: i got confused. basically, i think a european customer would get the same (doctored) results if they ran a search on .ar.
Framedragger: basically.
mircea_popescu: nonsense.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying a frenchman would see the internet in french even if he called trilema.com
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: fuck, you're right. "Some results may have been removed under data protection law in Europe" when running from google eu; both trilema URLs when running from .ar. what is this nonsense
Framedragger: okay, this is ridoinculously ineffective. lol.
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565865 layering "expressive" abstractions is not the only way to fit thigs into head.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:17 asciilifeform: the flow charts add 0 to the expressivity
mircea_popescu: the most important point here is that you for some god forsaken reason ACTUALLY THOUGHT, in your head, that if you write "whore" in lipstick on the back of your wife you're now fucking a whore.
Framedragger: look i didn't have much hope for this eurolaw thing on google etc, i did however assume that to circumvent it, one would have to spend at least a few minutes (masking IP whatnot), not a few seconds
mircea_popescu: this is what they mean when they say reddit makes one stupid : "social media" tends to drive this name-object confusion in young'uns.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger no, you're gettin' it now :D
Framedragger: my whole worldview is an array of name-object confusions. half of my mental life is like that "hesperus is phoshorus" problem
Framedragger: "but if the first star is planet venus and the second star is planet venus, then.. WHO WAS PHONE"
Framedragger: 'prenatal child gets introduced to semantics' kind of mental blur >.<
mircea_popescu: well, it goes away as you age.
mircea_popescu: anyway, frege's own example is much better than the latter retellings in english. he used der Abendstern and der Morgenstern.
mircea_popescu: you see what the anglotards did ? they replaced the names ; but not innocently. they replaced to serve the two things anglotards are all about : a fake loftyness (oh noes, really, classical names by the classically educated ? except medieval fakes ? ohoho how very cheers-vilised we find ourselves, that frasier crane will eat his heart out!) and a practical confusion. Now you need ~them~ to explain to you what the names mean,
mircea_popescu: it's no longer evident like in that Nazi's naive packaging. It's good for the economy! It creates jobs!
mircea_popescu: stay away from translations ; especially in philosophy (which is everything besides plumbing) ; especially when translated into english ; and especially when translated from german.
mircea_popescu: stay away from translation, for translation is treason.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: good point. a fair note though, some translations use 'morning star' and 'evening star', which convey the meaning well, i think.
Framedragger: though, then it's not clear that 'morning star' and 'evening star' are *proper* names (like Jacob), so...
Framedragger: ugh, translation.
Framedragger: (they're supposed to be proper names, not just 'table')
mircea_popescu: the problem with trason isn't that you can't find a faithful translation.
mircea_popescu: the problem with treason is that you can't identify which it is
mircea_popescu: as per macbeth, you know.
mircea_popescu: treason drives insanity.
Framedragger: hm. yeah
Framedragger: i wonder, maybe some of frege's stuff can be read in english in 'relative' (i'm naive yes) safety. for example his foundations of Arithmetic
Framedragger: i've never read the latter, and my deutsch is bad (but in principle passable with a dictionary at hand, possibly)
mircea_popescu: there's a reason the perfidious islands produced nothing in their entire history. that reason has to do to how there isn't even the words to translate properly, so either they hide behind some greek statue located in a french garden, or else they make with the common nouns.
mircea_popescu: english is a fine language to do your accounting in.
mircea_popescu: (and yes, i'm saying that the typical reasoning, "he said grab them by the pussy therefore he disrespects women" is not simply due to the speaker being stupid, or lazy. it's also how english happens to work, internally.)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: incidentally, any recommendation on which of the following to pick to learn as a new tongue? (sample at hand is due to some future pragmatical considerations, in terms of possible living places etc. - maybe not he last entry): french (i can't french at all), german (some knowledge), portuguese (none), russian (very rudimentary, call it none)
mircea_popescu: what's your process for learning as a new tongue ?
Framedragger: i haven't decided. last time it happened i was in high school. healthy dose of conversation + good textbooks, though that is not really a concrete process at all.
Framedragger: i'd like to be able to read some god damn decent literature in something else than english or lithuanian (the latter is an OK language, too bad it's language of proles)
mircea_popescu: languages are to be learnt from women. so go out with girls you like, pick the first one who also has a lot of booksat home, learn her language.
jurov: Framedragger: if literature, then defo go for german
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: nice, that sounds.. not like a chore. some very nice advice to be tried.. thanks.
mircea_popescu: or french. or portuguese. or russian. but yes.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i never learned a language any other way, and this includes fucking latin.
Framedragger: that's pretty cool.
mircea_popescu: (yes, the reason mp doesn't lisp may have a lot to do with the absence of hot lisp chicks.)
Framedragger imagines mircea_popescu learning declensions by writing with ink on a girl's back
mircea_popescu: lol. you know, if you drive to the starbucks it doesn't follow you actually stopped the car inside the booth.
Framedragger: jurov: curious why german in particular. but hm! fair enough i guess
mircea_popescu: possibly cuz that's what he read ? you certainly won't starve in any of the ones mentioned.
jurov: Framedragger: was interested into psychology, went to read in original
Framedragger: ..yeah i'm not going for sindarin or w/e language(s) tolkien invented. could be fun, but.. eh
jurov: ebonics ftw!
mircea_popescu: hey, at least learning it will go easy.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565891 << I read that they smashed cars and windows all night... in a city that went for clitler.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 01:27 ben_vulpes: they waltzed out onto i5, the corridor from mexico to canada
trinque: delicious. I hope they burn the place down.
trinque: asciilifeform: this marks the coming of Great Again.
phf: "we ain't rasis, we politically conscious"
phf: i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value
asciilifeform: what face value. their only consistent line for past century was 'what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine' etc.
phf: liberté, égalité, fraternité
phf: ls
phf: err
asciilifeform: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture..
asciilifeform wonders if these folk have their own assembly house
mats: shitball.bin is at 200kb
mats: this is going to take years
trinque: phf: nah, didn't get exactly what they wanted, are now shitting themselves in defiance
trinque: the pants belong to someone else anyway; it's self-consistent
trinque: ben_vulpes: you gotta qntra this; you're right there in the action!
trinque: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/putin-applauds-trump-win-and-hails-new-era-of-positive-ties-with-us << He denied allegations of Russian interference in the election, but said “maybe we helped a bit with WikiLeaks.”
trinque: top trolling
mod6: heheh
asciilifeform: mats: what's the effective bitrate ?
mats: 2 bits a second
asciilifeform: aaaaaha
asciilifeform: soooo auditable
asciilifeform: sooooo measurable...
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'The afternoon rally came a day after fliers appeared in bathrooms across campus warning of pro-Trump "vigilante squads." The fliers contained a picture of men clad in camouflage holding rifles and said the squads would “arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage.” University police were investigating the source of the fliers.'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> incidentally, after all the blather about how russia influenced the elections (hey, check it out, russia can do that!) where's the articles about how sweden organised protests against trump ? << Tomorrow maybe in Roundup Xtend after I catch up on reading
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: WTF, why are they promoting hate crimes against white people dressed in traditional garb for deer season?!
phf: "these men are armed with assault rifles!!"
ben_vulpes: trinque: i am nowhere near the action, tyvm
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sooo get in the panzer & drive!11111
ben_vulpes: only action i'm remotely interested in is abdulraman sameer noorah's trial on the fifteenth
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: nah, i don't take the capital equipment out romping amongst anarchist, the antipersonnell hardware's on the fritz
ben_vulpes deeply uninterested in broken megacorp windows downtown when there are fires to light and dance around in the rainy woods
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Fine, locate your nearest "rainbow people" camp and shit on their parade
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: mwhat is a rainbow people?
trinque: looked like it was shops and cars too, not just megacorp
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: contemporary hippies
trinque: kulaks I guess
ben_vulpes: trinque: apparently someone got arrested carrying six 'molotov cocktails'
ben_vulpes: i don't know how stupid you have to be to get caught before hefting any firebombs...
ben_vulpes: and i'm not even particularly convinced they'd have worked anyways.
trinque: lol!
asciilifeform: perhaps he used mircea_popescu's gag recipe with plastic bottle. which dissolved.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ah yeah not really my scene, too straight to appreciate ritual deflowerings and assorted defilements
trinque: ritual deflowerings wat
trinque: that sounds kinda fun!
BingoBoingo: WHich is why you go to shit on their parade and bring tiding of Trumpreich
ben_vulpes: sadly, i have not done enough battle with the gods of tidiness and compulsion to be into playing with my poop
trinque: wat
trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods
ben_vulpes: trinque: it sounds to me like BingoBoingo wants to see hippie scat play
ben_vulpes: trinque: nobody has any idea
BingoBoingo: Nah, me wants to see ben_vulpes practice his oppressing
trinque: they had naked sluts at the hot springs but afaik that was banned
trinque: much to the sorrow of all
ben_vulpes: which spring?
trinque: what's the one due southeast in the national forest
trinque: I remember there was weeping and gnashing of teeth over nudity in some facebook group back when I had one of those
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/duterte-welcomes-us-trumpreich-and-looks-forward-to-warm-relations/ << Qntra - Duterte Welcomes US Trumpreich And Looks Forward To Warm Relations
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1565968 << the funny thing being that the dnc is pretty much a sorority. i mean this very literally, a collection of girls trapped in old women bodies. AND THE CHEEROCRACY LOST THE CHEERLEADING BALL!
mircea_popescu: it's gonna be funnay if they go for the whole "it's clinton's fault" thing, considering the woman didn't even want to run - THEY BEGGED HER TO.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Anyways my early projection for next Democratic presidential nominee is Tammy Duckworth. It would have been Jason Kander, butt... his loss.
mircea_popescu: i expect pelosi lol. she'd only be 80.
BingoBoingo: Nah, they'll prolly be looking for "freshman senator magic" again
mircea_popescu: maybe they get a fat and pimply black guy from tennessee
mircea_popescu: who loses again and then it can be all about racism in "the public debate"
BingoBoingo: Only if one wins the senate seat there in 2014
mircea_popescu: there is that.
mircea_popescu: course 2018 is also a thing.
BingoBoingo: Time doesn't flow that way anymore in Murica, The Great Again is starting.
BingoBoingo: Soon there will be alt-1950's except poorer
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 15:41 asciilifeform: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw7nqoiUkAANrm3.jpg << see also.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 15:42 phf: i will admit though, i didn't expect this level of hypocrisy from the progressives, i was to some extent taking what they are saying at face value
mircea_popescu: lmao mwhat is a thing now ?
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 18:05 trinque by now has no idea wtf goes on in oregon woods
ben_vulpes: mwho?
mircea_popescu: tl;dr: gandi.net is a fucking joke, approximately the equivalent of eating fast food in food court "restaurant", so you can pay 20 bux for the same two dollar happy meal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw i've used it for many years, it worx
asciilifeform: but there is afaik nothing particularly great about it.
asciilifeform: it doesn't 'price competitively' because it doesn't (last i saw) sell customers to spammers, plaster self with pestilential ads, 'park' linkfarms on paying customer domains, etc
asciilifeform: the 'competitive' dnstrons -- do.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 17:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in a very theoretical principle, this. the mechanisms involved in the practical discussion, however, aren't nearly there. just simple cash starvation, "why is roach motel full of roaches!" "because you're paying $8 a night"
asciilifeform: 'I'm getting that for 5.96 currently. .com .net 15 each ? Is this some kind of a joke that's funny in your culture ?' << i'd be curious, then, what is mircea_popescu getting for the 5.96 $, and why not continue to buy it.
jurov: gandi.net needs to join tmsr. then we can have domains for phree :D
asciilifeform: ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? )
asciilifeform: jurov: there is an upstream cost, given as all dns regs are sub-leases from hitler.
jurov: I see you got the joke.
asciilifeform: at one point i worked for a co that supplied dns reg as part of a larger package of high-roller services (rather than, as usually seen with registrars, to public) -- the 'crown concession' was quite costly
asciilifeform: (mid 6-figs at the time iirc)
asciilifeform: (they also collected fat moneys for the service, i shit thee not, of watching that the domain reg does not 'walk away', because not-winblowzing, not-using-guessable-pw, etc. is Too Much To Expect from multi-$B 'tbtf' orgs)
asciilifeform: this is one of those affairs bitcoin oughta be delightfully perverting to all hell, as per mircea_popescu's prophecy
asciilifeform: if i misplace a benjie, hitler will not give me new one. if goldman sachs 'misplaces' domain -- hitler is delighted to give back.
phf: "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?"
asciilifeform: believe or not, 'you' (definitely not you, nor me, but some favourite son somewhere) can make $mils by offering service of 'dns reg just like the 5.95 one but we need signed letter from CEO of your corp, notarized by the board, before we'll move a domain'
asciilifeform: (and, since mircea_popescu is not awake to ask this, i will answer in advance -- no, it wasn't pgptronic 'no valid sig -- goto hell'. afaik this isn't doable under u.s. jurisdiction )
jurov: .SK NIC actually does this notarized bureaucracy PITA when the owner, dies or otherwise ceases to exist
jurov: *it's PITA
asciilifeform: iirc some eu countries even demand a physical resident agent before issuing domain
phf: i once got a contract closed because the hosting provider was located in a former missile launch facility, i mentioned it during a pitch, and i think that more so than anything else that ensured the bid went through. "security"
phf:
asciilifeform: pretty lulzy, considering that the actual 'burglarproofing' of the shafts came 100% from the promise of guard platoon showing up <15min after alarm tripped
asciilifeform: and not from the staff access door (which was armoured, but against overpressure, not crowbar)
asciilifeform: in other very much non-news, https://archive.is/RAPiG , i take back everything i ever said re how opening 'tmsr church' is waste of time. it ain't, not if we can build one of THESE!111111111111
BingoBoingo: AHA, where alf discovers virtue of cults
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the end i picked namesilo.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lel, i always liked cults
mircea_popescu: we shall see about this "sell to spammers", i have exactly 0 confidence in the gandi thing chiefly because on the form they claim icann REQUIRES them to sell your data to spammers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in truth i cannot recommend any dns seller, this may well be a case of 'pay the cheapest shaman'
mircea_popescu: and i don't continue to buy it because internetbs.net (ex internet.bs) decided to discontinue bitcoin payments "for legal reasons". so i told them where to stuff it, the only reason i made the fucking acct last year when i ditched namecheap was because they had btc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly that.
mircea_popescu: and it makes a difference, wtf, i'm going to pay ~2500 for a 1200 bill because "services" ? i wish to know wtf services they do for over a grand
mircea_popescu: this is exactly that field where "take this old crust of bread, and i don't wish to hear from you for two decades", and they're ALL doing it wrong. "oh we upgraded the website" "oh we changed payment processing" MOTHERFUCKER
mircea_popescu: you do not change. anything. ever.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/trump-voter-lynched-in-chicago-for-supporting-the-great-again/ << Qntra - Trump Voter Lynched In Chicago For Supporting The Great Again
mircea_popescu: change is the worst fucking thing. get leprosy instead, it's a better deal.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo saying white man was lynched is racist! saying ourdemocracy valiant fighters lynched some dude is racist!
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Tell that to our urban negro!
mircea_popescu: all dis structural racism
BingoBoingo: Just wait for post-structural racism!
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566134 << most of the things i buy. including real estate, human slaves, cutlery, antiques, cars and machinery, you name it.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 21:23 asciilifeform: ( and how many other necessary things does mircea_popescu buy at-cost, and really, there's no catch..? )
mircea_popescu: retail is for suckers.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: church of s is probably the most interesting item in usa, from tmsr perspective. think, they - apparently - run a complete northkr ~inside~ usa, with palaces, factories, gulags, fuck knows, possibly complete with rockets. and ~0 newspaper whine.
mircea_popescu: or at least used to
asciilifeform: i've not turned up any report of castle linked earlier having been sacked or sold at auction etc. but i have nfi, i never sat on its throne or in the dungeon.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-11#1566143 << this is the core of "private banking". "do you have a lot of money ? are you too dumb to understand how wires work ? we only cost $500 a month (+some % of your every move in small print)"
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 21:33 phf: "you seem to be attempting to reassigning your domain, why don't you call your agent to chat about?"
asciilifeform: linked piece even suggests that they have something like mircea_popescu's 'human pig' system.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform afaik they're running a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-05#1563151 for celebs. you pay them a mn a year or w/e and they allocate a coupla slavegirls to you.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-05 15:22 mircea_popescu: epstein is one of many such squires, let's call them. the squire's estate consists of a brothel, which may be obv multiple physical locations but generally arranged in a star pattern, a harvesting operation, his connections to the democrat party (in this case via abedin-clinton-obama). he doesn't do his own marketing, the people running the whole thing do.
mircea_popescu: not terribly independent or anything.
asciilifeform: well somebody kryshas it.
mircea_popescu: oh, same people as epstein dude. it's a dnc outfit through and through.
asciilifeform: seems a little overengineered for ordinary bordello.
asciilifeform: really, spikes, minefields?
mircea_popescu: (note that the dona brazile thing was IN FRONT OF EMPLOYEES. those 150 people weren't fucking volunteers, they were dorks making more money than the owner of vox/salon/what have you, not the journowhores doing all the wordsmithing. and who were expecting more. A LOT MORE. and now they don't think they'll ever get it
mircea_popescu: which is the meaning of "you'll die of old age and i'll die of global warming" : you made your 50mn and i'm never gonna make my half bn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a visual culture. kinda like how they glue plastic wood imitation to station wagons and plant fake vineyards in the back of the alt-flavoured soda vending machine.
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1r2T6Pq3-S1w0L4YcS1fbzvEnqHM&hl=en&ll=33.80916597520113%2C-116.8815388597464&z=12 << considerably larger, and, by all accounts, more lavish, than, e.g., camp david, or nsa hq, or, or.
asciilifeform: but the fact asciilifeform finds more interesting is that they have, apparently, a complete electronic manufacturing vertical there.
asciilifeform: (for the 'e-meter' cultron, naturally, linked earlier)
mircea_popescu: "electronic". their thing is electric.
asciilifeform: nope. read link.
asciilifeform: 8-bit cpu!11111
a111: Logged on 2016-11-11 16:00 asciilifeform: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Mark-VII << definitely not news, but of interest to folks in low-volume electronics manufacture..
mircea_popescu: they're not baking them
asciilifeform did not go there, did not bake it
mircea_popescu: also, those gaypope pics tell a story of rural poverty.
asciilifeform: with the shit-pits ?
mircea_popescu: i'm supposed to be impressed by that handmade one-off "spiked fence" ? it's badly designed, fatally flawed and deeply dysfunctional.
mircea_popescu: wtf else, they got a speaker ? some cctv ?
asciilifeform: it's a dubai.
asciilifeform: million for throne room, not a penny for trash pickup, etc.
mircea_popescu: eh get out. it's a ranch.
asciilifeform: dubai in the 'orc fantasy' sense, not in 'commercial megapolis'.
asciilifeform: www.ultrabarrier.com << spike vendor.
asciilifeform: they resemble oversized pigeon spikes from chicago metro.
mircea_popescu: it's the antipersonnel equivalent of "scoped out" rifle. really.
asciilifeform: dunno that it is such a bad deal, escapee slave can jump ordinary barbed wire with leather coats, tarps, etc., but not so easily spikes.
mircea_popescu: dude... you're not serious are you ?
mircea_popescu: a) they're visibly atached. you can just take them off. b) they sit on top of a dingy chickenwire thing you can cut through with a fucking nail clip c) they're on a fence already sagging from age, whose supports lay loose in soft earth ; no concrete base block nothing.
asciilifeform: take off?!
asciilifeform: as i understand, these are against naked chix running off into the woods in the dead of night.
mircea_popescu: yes. they're clip-ons, look at the pic.
asciilifeform: not tank division.
mircea_popescu: they're against the nightmares of the mentally ill. they have no practical effect.
mircea_popescu: it's a fucking cinematic prop.
asciilifeform: vendor page had 'install with ordinary tig welder' or the like.
asciilifeform: i cannot tell, from this pic, how thing was made.
asciilifeform: perhaps - from papier mache.
mircea_popescu: it seems to me the rail came with holes, and the "blades" came with steel spring which got forced into the hole.
asciilifeform: or rivet, aha.
mircea_popescu: inside rivet ?
asciilifeform: keyhole rivet.
asciilifeform: like the chicago pigeon system.
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be visibly loose. there's like 2mm space between "blade" and its seat on the side of the attachment.
mircea_popescu: that's a good sign they're just loose there
asciilifeform: strange thing to make.
mircea_popescu: (you can see the sun shine through, so you know)
asciilifeform: but i can easily imagine demented pope buying this, like he bought the rest of it, 'looked SOOOO K000000L!1111'
asciilifeform: homes of american 'rich & famous' tend to have this flavour, or at least the parts visible from outside
mircea_popescu: myeah. still, back at reality ranch, poor quality low value fence 3/10.
asciilifeform: betcha it does the job tho.
asciilifeform: chixx - stay in.
asciilifeform: (slowed in escape for the 10 minutes or so that the chix-retention battalion needs to pick'em back up, throw in truck bed, and return to their pit)
asciilifeform: fences per se are a largely decorative item in modern world -- the item which actually does the work is the microwave perimeter sensor
BingoBoingo: Still does little to keep determined invader from seizing ranch and nekkid chix.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: "lynced"?
asciilifeform: introduced in '60s for -- incidentally, last thead -- rocket silos
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/numerous-jobs-for-the-unemployable-being-created-as-the-great-again-approaches/ << Qntra - Numerous Jobs For The Unemployable Being Created As The Great Again Approaches
asciilifeform: many washington dc lizard terrariums have minimal or even nonexistent fences, but many intersecting 'lines of fire' of sensor.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ty fxd
mircea_popescu: dude what chix even.
asciilifeform: nfi! mircea_popescu did suggest that it was an epsteinarium..
mircea_popescu: that place looks like you'd be hard pressed to find fresh veal. let alone anything you'd want to fuck.
mircea_popescu: yes, but not in the high performance sexual sense.
asciilifeform: in which, then, sense ?
mircea_popescu: there's just a bunch of dorks doing what every single servant class american SHOULD be doing, which is to say "yes sir no sir thank you sir oh how great you look today".
mircea_popescu: travolta goes there to decompress, when he gets fucking sick of smartass cab drivers, ironic waitresses and whatnot other "i'm only doing this until" idiots.
asciilifeform: sounds like a viable business model for northkr!11111
asciilifeform: 'travolta service'
mircea_popescu: quite, yes.
mircea_popescu: nfi why they don't do it. at some point in the late 80s they almost look like they were gonna
mircea_popescu: who knows, maybne they do and it's chinese strictly.
asciilifeform: 'we have 10,000,001 eager servants who will come in pants if you give'em a 'snickers''
BingoBoingo: "If I wasn’t sitting in the room with my mother and my hands were not hopelessly broken and callused, I’d consider masturbating to the live feed of crying feminists at the Queen Apparent’s Headquarters." << http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5638
mircea_popescu: not even. "Dear Guest, for your comfort please note that snicker bars must be split up to all employees. Please contact the nearest Whipmaster for the procedure. Thank you!"
mircea_popescu: then they cut it to bits and put it in doggy bowls.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i lost the transmission past "room with mother"
asciilifeform: probably per customer request !! some might prefer, e.g., that the 'snickers' be on a fishing hook, on a line.
asciilifeform: or in mousetrap.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well I'm guessing Herr Lafond who presents Baltimore does not have television of own and for a change decided to take refuge outside of city limits rather than shelter in place.
mircea_popescu: i guess.
asciilifeform: i thought he lived in an old broken clay amphora!
mircea_popescu: so is sanders gonna split his own faction, what's the prediction market say ?
BingoBoingo: Sanders likely not long for this world seeing as he is oldest of the olds.
mircea_popescu: Call it American Socialist Party, prolly get about a tenth to a third of current dem + all the "radicals" and whatnots. since the democrats are utterly fucked with all-minorities PLUS they're going to lose 5-10 more senators in 2018 (look at the map lol, it's a carnage, 6 sens up for reelection in freshly red states) so it'll be forever a case of "we are better than the dnc, we suck but they fail".
mircea_popescu: it's his moment, if he'll take it.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo all he has to do is put the cornerstone.
BingoBoingo: Possibru
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps he can take the mummy of cpusa out of the museum and resurrect
mircea_popescu: nah, communism is bad cachet. he wants socialism.
mircea_popescu: possibly use something dump like "Progress Coallition" or whatever brandy nonsense
asciilifeform cannot even think of 'trickle down' without thinking of mircea_popescu's latrine-pig systems.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/RAk3I << in other bizarrities.
asciilifeform has been to this diner many times, never saw clitler. though it IS the place next to which there is a peculiar private house with iron door and 'high voltage' sign, but through windows one can see that it is not a substation, there are lights, office furniture...
mircea_popescu: why do these people eat so much pizza
mircea_popescu: it's not even pizza, at that. greasy shitballs ffs.
asciilifeform: it was perhaps closest thing to pizza in these lands.
mircea_popescu: but pizza is a poor fisherman's sustenance.
mircea_popescu: literally, dirt poor, eat every other day sort of poor.
asciilifeform: no argument.
mircea_popescu: o wow, that heart-with-heart spiral thing is actually a "i wanna fuck preteen girls" thing ?
trinque: seems like "big triangle little triangle" or heart
asciilifeform: !!up the_scourge
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
mats: hes back
mircea_popescu: lol "hames alefantis owns a pizzeria and is the ex-boyfriend of david brock who runs correct the record and who claimed it spent millions of dollars to pay redditards to bury qntra stories". mmmkay.
mircea_popescu: "katy grannan, a photographer known for documentary-style pictures of naked teenagers in their parents' suburban homes". ahaha say wut ?
mircea_popescu: must be a different katy grannan.
asciilifeform: fwiw the (unofficial) main dem party b00kstore is on same street
asciilifeform: as is its back-office.
asciilifeform: it is wildly popular, and various 'luminaries' perform there, incl. clitler at one point.
the_scourge: rehi guys
the_scourge: david brock was blackmailed for nearly a million a few years back by a gay lover
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the politics nand prose thing ? yeah.
asciilifeform: i was there just a week before tritlerday, it was full of you can guess what.
mircea_popescu: jewish kids with shitty degrees and great expectations ?
asciilifeform: them also
asciilifeform: but i was thinking of the most self-congratulatory propaganda 'books' one could imagine
asciilifeform: 'how america almost made the trump mistake' etc.
asciilifeform: also the clitler thing with the student loan jubilee, photo'd and linked here
asciilifeform: !!up scourge
deedbot: scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
asciilifeform: scourge: they confiscated all but your 300 baud modem or what.
scourge: sorry folks, running irssi locally. i lost my VPNs and my bitcoin was all seized
scourge: asciilifeform: idk i'm connected to some wireless
scourge: bandwidth seems ok but it times out sometimes. might need to play with my settings
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/MeGTJ#selection-3405.0-3405.38 << Biljana Djurdjevic, if anyone gives a shit. just old enough at the time of the troubles to have involuntarily participated in the ass trade, except of course for the happenstance she was born in belgrade not sarajevo
scourge: "salon d'octobre" is that a communist reference? October revolution?
mircea_popescu: dun think so.
scourge: Maybe it's artistic to name your crew after a month
scourge: mircea_popescu: how you been? Any comments on this stenography that's popping up with pizzagate?
scourge: um, it's james not hames and yah CTR is real
mircea_popescu: "UPDATE 11/9 – Anon has learned of a password secured area for Comet Pizza http://www.cometpingpong.com/protected This is extremely odd for a pizza place. Within hours, Anon had infiltrated the servers. I’m not a hacker, so I’m just relaying information here, but it seems there is extensive security which even our best men have not been able to breach. ALL THAT TO PROTECT A PIZZA JOINT? They have confirmed the coded fil
mircea_popescu: es names able to be viewed but not downloaded are video files." << i thought that part was pretty good.
scourge: ^CTR - like team. But done by Alphabet and Eric Schmidt and with 1.5 billion in budget and all of google's resources to build a "unique voter ID" on everyone
scourge: mircea_popescu: where was that quote from?
mircea_popescu: item alf linked above, "other bizzarities"
scourge missed it, goes to look at the logs
asciilifeform: what's interesting in the linked eric schmidt email ?
scourge: anyone getting timeouts and weird stuff on voat?
scourge: asciilifeform: smoking gun for CTR stuff but 100X worse and with 100X the budget and using all of google's data and psyops for the Clintons
mircea_popescu: the campaign never reached 1.5bn, never employed 5k people nor ever managed to house 1k people with other people.
scourge: mircea_popescu: proof? how do you know what ended up happening?
mircea_popescu: it's kinda my business to know what'll end up happening 6+ months in advance.
scourge: mircea_popescu: i know that. but how do you know the internal workings of Schmidt+clintons+google?
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9MwsU >> 'Sticky as a long, slow summertime fuck.' << lel
mircea_popescu: like you know everything else, by echos and refraction ; waste heat and waste energy... all detection works the same way.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently they really are lizards.
scourge: mircea_popescu: god damn you should have put a fucking NSFW on the tumblr. Or should we assume that tumblr jpgs are NSFW
mircea_popescu: well... thing is moreover that relatively little of what we discuss here is either work-friendly or all that recommended for people with jobs
mircea_popescu: or wives.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, if this email is genuine, it does not speak in favour of schmidt's intellect.
scourge: the irony is that tor+VM+cafe wifi is a recommended minimum for working with hacking a potential pedo ring, but that "cafe WIFI" is usually located inside... a cafe (which is full of dones)
asciilifeform: he reads like nigerian spam forum d00dz
mircea_popescu: horribly mangled mix of things on different levels and layers, he has no clear fucking idea of anything.
mircea_popescu: scourge oh, you're working with hacking a potential pedo ring ?
scourge: The last few weeks have shown me that the closer to the top one gets, the more stupid things you see. Globalists are a great example of the peter principle (and mabye even the gervais principle)
asciilifeform: '[five star review] We're coming for you Alefantis, your organized ring of pedophiles is about to be exposed. Youre gonna burn motherf-r.'
mircea_popescu: oh is this the hacking warning ?
asciilifeform: it is from the 'google reviews' link.
asciilifeform: which is now full of this ???.
mircea_popescu: top idiocies : "ind a way to do polling online and not on phones." ; "The code developed for 2012 (Narwahl etc.) is unlikely to be used, and replaced by a model where" and it kinda lost me there.
asciilifeform: ( i have nfi where they are supposed to be keeping the pedos, it is mostly a pub, full of drunks )
mircea_popescu: no code reuse, check that out. ima make new shit ? to throw away in 2020 ? get bent.
mircea_popescu: and least narwahl wasn't as horrifying as that orca shit romney came up with.
phf: ama start leaving reviews on mexican drug cartel addresses "i'm coming for you, ese, this drug ring is over!!1"
scourge: asciilifeform: the guys on 4chan are saying that kids aren't kept at CPP at all
mircea_popescu: "hasta la vista, vatos!"
mircea_popescu: !!up the_scourge
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: the one thing with the email leaks is just how fucking incredibly worthless all these people are. their productions are literally not worth reading.
the_scourge: cheers m8
mircea_popescu: if i were stuck in a situation where i had to read this crap i'd be shooting people.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: billions of dollars and big data on every mutherfucker on the planet can make up for a lot of incompetence :(
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, i tried to read the clitler, rumsfeld, etc. crud and literally fell asleep.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: right in my chair.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and least narwahl wasn't as horrifying as that orca shit romney came up with. << Amazing that Trump's less budget meant not buying landwhales
mircea_popescu: it's like... motherfucker, GO TO SCHOOL! come back in six years or such.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yep. best thing that can happen for one in the us is not having money.
mircea_popescu: the_scourge notreally. it can provide an edge if the other side is just as incompetent, that's about all.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: i think the problem is too much school, not enough learning
mircea_popescu: something like that. too much school that never saw school and too many hamburgers that never saw a pig.
BingoBoingo dreams of the alphrophecy being realized. Parking on white house lawn because replacing lawn with my lawn, pls get off.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: agreed. that's why they are literally falling apart in front of our eyes
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: i'm more bullish on USD than i have been in decades. at least for short/med term
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: Why would Mr. T make you bullish on USD. Renegotiating national debt will raise interest rates. Especially when US has bankruptcy filing on credit report.
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: alphrophecy not in the logs on either channel, what is that?
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: he doesn't. Keystone and other things do
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: It is in logs. A future president drives to White house and parks pick up truck on lawn.
the_scourge: !search alphrophecy
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: It isn't like a bit of inflation or devaluation of the USd is a bad thing.
the_scourge just realized assbot isn't in here
the_scourge: and deedbot isn't talking to me sidechan
a111: Logged on 2016-11-10 16:27 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo !
mircea_popescu: the_scourge see bots.contravex.com
the_scourge: oright yah a dodge ram with 12v cummins, can't be stopped by EMP or nukes. I've got one
the_scourge: mircea_popescu++ # helpful cunt
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/45xXE << in other 'Kids born after the world went to shit...' lulz.
the_scourge: mircea_popescu: ahh, double bangs. very CQB of you
mircea_popescu: !~google cqb
asciilifeform: 'close quarter battle' ??
the_scourge: asciilifeform: yes
the_scourge: you americans call it a double tap
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: I'll prolly go GM, either S10 or Sonoma. Factory bed replaced with flat one of own crafting. But truck must wait for 5 kilo dollar to USd exchagne rate because priorities
asciilifeform: the_scourge: actually we call it 'контрольный выстрел'
the_scourge: dollar to USD meaning CAD to USD?
BingoBoingo: Sorry, 5 kiloUSd to BTC
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: if you want a flatbed, just get a Hilux with a bed that is shot to shit. My brother just sold one, cab was in beautiful condition except where I had let a canoe rub on the top
the_scourge: asciilifeform: http://kv-journal.su/ < is this контрольный выстрел ?
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: Why would I want terrorist jap truck when I can find rust American Iron to give blessing of Great Again!
asciilifeform: the_scourge: it is simply what the tradition of shooting a man in the head second time for good measure is called on other side of the atlantic.
the_scourge isn't sure that tmux got the characters perfect
the_scourge: asciilifeform: you misunderstood. the double tap is both to the body. It is the mozambique drill or failure drill that adds a third to the head
the_scourge: 'контрольный выстрел' is approximately "control shot"?
the_scourge was thinking about driving over to Ukraine and jumping in with Azov a little bit ago
the_scourge: would have had to learn some of the lingo
mats: lol
the_scourge: I'd be happy to learn Ukrainian or Russian if it meant I could mob up with em
asciilifeform: because this is apparently how it works..?
phf: you just need enough mat to get by, unfortunately failure to use mat ~precisely~ will probably get you in trouble
the_scourge: asciilifeform: azov takes Swedes and Texans. I'm pretty sure tactical abilities are good as gold no matter where you are
asciilifeform: 'i watched muuuuch anime, now wanna join yakuza'
the_scourge doesn't know what yakuza is
the_scourge: Japanese?
the_scourge: Dude they look like fucking hoodrats. What does that have to do with tactical skills?
the_scourge: (everyone knows that kids from the hood become SF first, hoodrats later, not the other way around /s)
the_scourge: looks like they have their tribal org down. probably lots to learn there
BingoBoingo: !!up the_scourge
deedbot: the_scourge voiced for 30 minutes.
the_scourge: ah deedbot uses the same userlist as assbot!
the_scourge: so I guess i'm downrated to below pleb here too
the_scourge: BingoBoingo++ thanks m8
BingoBoingo: No, not same. Forked.
the_scourge: ah yah I've only got today's rating from kakobrekla
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: still getting "You may not !!up yourself." though...
BingoBoingo: In other Great Again preludes: Boeing is hiring on their F/A-18 sales staff.
BingoBoingo: the_scourge: Kako's rating does not hold on this side of schism
BingoBoingo: brb, sober time.
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: that's fine I'll just relying on people generosity with voice until I've de-annoyed enough to get a rating :)
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: schism?
BingoBoingo: Maybe you should set a timer? Fill a flowerpot with soil and plant some bluegrass seed. Keep on your desk. If you read fast enough maybe you will have historical context before grass germinates?
BingoBoingo: Make sure your timer is bluegrass, ryegrass timers go off too soon.
the_scourge: BingoBoingo: ack'd. I've gotta work my way up maslow's hierarchy before I have a desk to put the bluegrass seed on
the_scourge: lots has happened while i was away. Brexit like wtf
the_scourge: Gonna go hit the gym. Hopefully I'll be able to get a VPS and do some reading next time I'm online. Good to see you guys are all doing stellar
mircea_popescu: !!up dangerwolf2
deedbot: dangerwolf2 voiced for 30 minutes.
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