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deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/2016-chicago-more-violent-than-2015-chicago-by-1000-shootings-so-far/ << Qntra - 2016 Chicago More Violent Than 2015 Chicago By 1000 Shootings So Far
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556642 << #HashTags that don't even link to anything is the exact opposite of literacy
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 23:41 asciilifeform: from mircea_popescu's link, http://www.uncomputing.org/?p=1716 << lulzy example, more or less at random, of peculiarly literate lizard shill
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 434938 | Current Difficulty: 2.5852274840451544E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 435455 | Next Difficulty In: 517 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 10 hours, 10 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 635.0, vol: 2791.35995364 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 633.478, vol: 2996.44422 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 638.61, vol: 6600.92428158 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 640.912559, vol: 630684.40630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 636.99, vol: 585.90599856 | Volume-weighted last average: 640.825123593
mircea_popescu: approved & answered.
Framedragger: (man, i am in dire need of multi-tier TODO lists (sorted by urgency and other things). my TODO text file is a mess.)
adlai: Framedragger: are you familiar with tb0t and http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/ ?
Framedragger: adlai: i've looked at it and i like it. i haven't used it!
Framedragger checks tb0t commands
Framedragger: i suspect it wouldn't be optimal in my case. i want ticket tags and stuff. dependency graph is of course nice.
mircea_popescu: mod6 does tb0t even run private sessions ?
mircea_popescu: this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private.
adlai still uses orgmode, to mixed results
mircea_popescu: mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee!
mircea_popescu: btw BingoBoingo i submit something like "troubled hrc fundraisers despair of ever receiving support from bitcoin, comically look to ven in desperation" or such for the next roundup (sauce http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556416 )
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 16:00 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yGeyv for the lulz
shinohai: Can't use BTC because evil Trump uses it, we must "blockchain" instead.
shinohai wonders if CLIT devs are already secretly at work.
mircea_popescu: Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter.
mircea_popescu: shinohai the ven thing, it has nothing to do with blockchain, or with technology generally. it's the funniest thing you ever saw, a sort of etsy-paypal, made by the same sort of stunted minds that tried to push doge.
mircea_popescu: buncha mentally retarded but politically ambitious social-pseudosciences types trying to get ahead in the world as best they know how. which somehow, in their broken culture, does not mean twerking, for some reason.
shinohai: I was just about to say, it is obvious they will make a pseudo scientific effirt at creating a "cryptocurrency"
shinohai: That works exactly like paypal but better!
mircea_popescu: maybe they can hire that blonde chick with the alt-eth what was her name
shinohai: covertress lol
shinohai: They left the eth part of it behind, no more lulz from that camp :(
mircea_popescu: lol behind in this context may be misleading.
trinque: https://www.rt.com/news/363256-sweden-returning-terrorists-benefits/ << ""considering giving jihadists returning from Syria and Iraq free housing, a driver’s license, and tax benefits to ease their reintegration"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 does tb0t even run private sessions ? << ah, no currently it's just all public facing projects.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> this should be a thing, it occurs to me, if it could be aware of user so ppl in l1 can specify public or private. << ah, ok. i'll put some thought into this.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 and once trinque gets the payment side of deedbot ready, you can even charge a fee! << yeah, nice!
trinque: made great progress last weekend, got the rest of the various services of deedbot broken off into tidy separate projects.
mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot.
mod6: hmmm.
mod6: mornin' btw
mod6: heheh
trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code.
trinque: morning!
trinque: !#s one to throw away
trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done
trinque: first customer of course being myself
mod6: right on
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ?
shinohai: < 24 hrs after hard fork to stop ETH attacks, another attack is ongoing and butterin suggest yet another fork will fix it: http://archive.is/3XcGG
mod6: the lels just keep on comin' eh
shinohai: I'm actually tired of Qntra'ing it all
mod6: well, fortunately qntra pays
shinohai: Yeah, hence I don't want to screw up a good thing lol by submitting trash all the time
asciilifeform: ^ BingoBoingo , qntra ?
trinque: pairs nicely with my sweden link
trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped; ISIS terrorists need moar benefits!
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> btw BingoBoingo i submit something like "troubled hrc fundraisers despair of ever receiving support from bitcoin, comically look to ven in desperation" or such for the next roundup (sauce http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-18#1556416 ) << AHA, it's a firm mebbe for next one. Didn't fit flavor of recent electoral one.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-18 16:00 mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/yGeyv for the lulz
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^ BingoBoingo , qntra ? << of course
asciilifeform: btw, the long-defunkt finn, ilkka kokkarinen, had a mighty interesting explanation of why sweden became a laboratory for cutting edge liberasty
BingoBoingo: trinque: Nah, I'll let you write of the sweden
asciilifeform: it was officially mythologized as 'nazi reservation' and in need of 'extra cleaning'.
asciilifeform: being the only ~serious industrial country in europe unwrecked by ww2, and full of german sympathizers, it 'musted die'
asciilifeform: and so it died.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:19 trinque: mod6: I'm considering bringing up common lisp UCI nodes once payment is done
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/d4Kbp << earlier this month...
asciilifeform: 'New York City police are looking for whoever draped a gigantic banner featuring a portrait of Russian President Vladimir Putin over the side of the Manhattan Bridge'
thestringpuller: and usually people who sell also do not make
thestringpuller: UGH. i pooped in the logs.
thestringpuller cleans up the poop...somehow
ben_vulpes: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MilagroProposal << i cannot make heads nor tails of this but it smells like bullshit
asciilifeform: 'Standards bodies have already begun standardizing various pairing-based schemes. These include the IEEE, ISO, and IETF. Besides identity-based encryption (IBE), the standardized schemes include identity-based signatures, identity-based signcryption, identity-based key establishment mechanisms, and identity-based key distribution for use in multimedia. NIST has also recommended the standardization and adoption of pairing-based crypto
asciilifeform: graphic systems for government agencies. In the NIST "Report on Pairing-based Cryptography" issued in February 2015, they state....' --- snore
asciilifeform: helpfully labeled nonsense, won't read past ^
asciilifeform: or, actually, grep 'developers' for future-negrate.
adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556724 << kinda where this is going, chan as a hub for all sorta activity like that.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:13 mod6: cool. yeah, a neat payment model for private projects would be pretty sweet with deedbot.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556728 << yeah pretty quick moving there too, was just a few days iirc.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:14 trinque: when the great schism occurred, I wrote the first cut of deedbot as quickly as possible as a single large blob of code.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:20 trinque: first customer of course being myself
mircea_popescu: but this aside : HAVING the thing there will be very useful for some important areas of republican research. such as the most evident one - malleable computation. (ie, when you somehow structure your code so that others can help but can't discern what they're helping. this may or may not involve a well chosen cipher system).
mircea_popescu: the way this shit works is that nothing progresses science quite as much as the idle availability of specific precursors. which is both why alf has a point re the failure of us science and engineering being related to the criminalization of the garage teenager's bombmaking lab as well as to the general idea that "you get to have sex in college".
asciilifeform ftr must point out that state of the art 'hot fusion' is much close to working than malleable-whateverthefucks.
asciilifeform: there is a titanic volume of drivel on subj. it is just that. none of any of the schemes i know of, is good for ~anything.
mircea_popescu: absolutely tru.
mircea_popescu: which is how, from my (unscientific, managerial) experience, notable breakthroughs happen
mircea_popescu: when the "adults" have fucked a topic to death to no-one's benefit, and the kids finally get their hands on it.
asciilifeform: i would dearly love to meet said 'kids'.
asciilifeform: right now doing crypto-anything is like walking on mars. desert, as far as the eye can see, not even cactus or fly.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556735 << mod6's been here since day 1 huh.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:31 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> Celebrated Nefario of GLBSE fame was an early adopter. << lol, remember 'Test' ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556736 << the lulz of all time being the "price" and "market cap" as reported by you know, "Exchanges" where this shitstain "is traded" being CONSTANT in the interval.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 14:43 shinohai: < 24 hrs after hard fork to stop ETH attacks, another attack is ongoing and butterin suggest yet another fork will fix it: http://archive.is/3XcGG
mircea_popescu: then idiots want to know if mpex is for real. not you know, if nyse & nasdaq are.
mircea_popescu: i suppose because it's by now evident they aren't.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556741 << ahaha "fearing ONE DAY it might WEAKEN its control" ? bitch, you lost control, completely, years ago. get lost.\
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:06 asciilifeform: meanwhile, https://archive.is/XIExL
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556744 << the problem of the socialist state is that as it hijacks terminology to try and get an unwilling society to implement its policy, the ACTUAL subjects of the terminology and the PRETENDED subjects of the terminology become disjunct. and so this constant apparent hypocrisy whereby they wish to see diametrically opposed reaction to the same label.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:10 trinque: bitcoin terrorists must be stopped; ISIS terrorists need moar benefits!
mircea_popescu: "drugs are bad mkay take this ritalin" sorta thing.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 15:13 asciilifeform: being the only ~serious industrial country in europe unwrecked by ww2, and full of german sympathizers, it 'musted die'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "drugs are bad mkay take this ritalin" sorta thing. << Why use the PC name and not call it Kid-amphetamine?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: iirc pharmacologically more cocainlike
mircea_popescu: no idea.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo for that matter, why is it ok for union thug to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy which is called "schooling", but it is not ok for kiddy fucker to brainwash 12 yo into idiocy, which is called "grooming".
mircea_popescu: it's ~just as stupid for the kid inquestion to imagine the state is good and paying taxes is not rape as it is for the same kid to imagine whoring is a future plan and so on.
mircea_popescu: somehow i'm supposed to take umbrage to brothel-living tween who can't do basic math ; but i'm supposed to see no problem whatsoever with school-going tween who can't basic math. because reasons.
mircea_popescu: as if i actually give a fuck how many dicks it can or does take.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Really splits the middle. More like amphetamine though because nearly all its activity is on dopamine and norepinephrine.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 17:23 adlai: pairing is the main moon math behind mumblejumble. one of my secondary hopes in going to milan was to leave with some rough understanding of pairings, but it has yet to crystallize.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Because one has visible bleeding from the butt and the other has metaphysical butt bleeding.
mircea_popescu: this is a myth, much exactly the same as "masturbation will make you blind".
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, used to be good state-science decades ago.
mircea_popescu: nowadays the good state-science being, of course, "taking it in the ass and eating a lot of soy won't castrate you".
mircea_popescu: bullshit idiots push to those clueless enough to eat it up.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/european-central-bank-publicly-leaks-knowledge-of-its-internal-bitcoin-panic/ << Qntra - European Central Bank Publicly Leaks Knowledge Of Its Internal Bitcoin Panic
BingoBoingo: Oh, no I mean the physical butt bleeding happens at Union thug schools, because the wider world is merging with the world of James Lafond Presents Baltimore
trinque: on that note, last week some mexican dude broke into my sister's neighbor's apt, raped chick inside, tried to kill her. noteworthy cuckland lul of it being that it was his second visit to the property in a month or so.
asciilifeform: trinque: i thought texas was a 'empty kalash into breaking door' state..?
trinque: texas has the misfortune of having jerbs for the past couple decades.
trinque: all sorts of people moving here.
trinque: californians have been colonizing Austin in particular
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Requires a "True Texan"(TM)(R) who actually has kalash
asciilifeform: and what, they are ghandians and don't believe in defending self ?
trinque: don't ask me; I give shotgun shells to unwanted visitors like any gentleman.
BingoBoingo: Californian? Yes! They believe in simply staying out of "Bad Neighborhoods" and tiny bottles of OC/CS.
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bull
a111: 0 results for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bull", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bull
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/l26Uw << custom regional lulz for mircea_popescu
trinque: hm, that has a result, but wrong one
trinque: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls
a111: 0 results for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bulls
trinque: phf: ^ result count busted
mircea_popescu: incidentally : it occurs to me we might be well advised to run an advertising campaign along the lines of "No University in the world can rival the Republic's own STEM research lab".
mircea_popescu: would this be something teh foundation might consider sponsoring, ben_vulpes mod6 ?
mircea_popescu: and any of the marketing minded fellows want to make the website ?
mircea_popescu: trinque what do you mean second visit ? like he worked there befoar ?
trinque: like he raped there befoar
mircea_popescu: so they basically have an ongoing arrangement ? like they do in south africa ?
trinque: yeah, seems like he's pretty comfortable coming back to that spot
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: advertise where?
BingoBoingo: University bathroom stalls?
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. take out a banner in front of ucla ?
mircea_popescu: put it on google ads / facebook ads / twitter ads, whatever the fuck.
mircea_popescu: go on fiver and pay people to fill the uni campuses with fliers.
mircea_popescu actyually did that last one for http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ just had the article printed and affixed to walls. was pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: it resulted in 0 press coverage, even from the derpy campus newspapers which evidently have nothing to report on (but hey, socialist butthurt) ; however it did produce ample fresh beaver supplies, which is what ads are for after all.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-19#1556829 << thanks for spotting that
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 18:26 trinque: phf: ^ result count busted
phf: which goes back to mp's very wise "don't mess with counts"
phf: fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74
phf: !#s from:phf fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74
a111: 2 results for "from:phf fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Aphf%20fa65e4c5ad0e5f7a94337910847bd10f7af10c74
mircea_popescu: i wrote some code to make the life of eulora players more confusing. i spent half hour writing it and one hour fighting fence errors.
phf: !#s from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls
a111: 1 result for "from:mircea_popescu mechanical bulls", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea_popescu%20mechanical%20bulls
phf: i'm now explicitly removing query message from results, which i think produces most appropriate counts
phf: !#s 3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da
a111: 0 results for "3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=3dbd372cbf1a3e320868e280d67a961bc07927da
BingoBoingo guesses Trilema review of "manhattan project" is next?
shinohai: !!up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
gabriel_laddel: phf getting some linux boxen from which to host the #sane-clim / #masamune irc channel + logs either this friday or the next. Any chance you'll be releasing the logger at some point so that I don't have to write my own?
phf: check your pm, but since that's a public question, i'll also answere here. i'm not going to go through work of releasing of logger in the immediate future, but i can dedicate some time to making sure logger can attach and track multiple channels, host masamune logs for you. this is aligned with a cleanup work that i was going to do, and i might as well do it next
phf: logger right now is a big ball of mud that includes V, parts of bitcoin protocol, logger itself with xref, irc bot and a kitchen sink of entire lisp ecosystem :>
shinohai: bit it worx and we love it
trinque: gabriel_laddel: offended by postgresql?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: nein. whatever you've got to do to use CLIM in the day-to-day is fine with me.
gabriel_laddel: you too see the end game, so I'm happy
gabriel_laddel: Oh I see. ty downloading.
trinque: and let me know when your IRC is up; I'll be joining.
trinque: that said if phf is happy to run a logger for you, his own log-viewer is pretty damned fly
trinque: my thing has no viewer written
trinque: thread reference is going to be indispensible for digestion of the clim-wad
phf: gabriel_laddel: have you explored clim2? i'm curious what state it's in. i want to at least try and spin it up on ACL to see how bit rotted it is, what it looks like, etc. i vaguely suspect it might be better clim baseline than mcclim
gabriel_laddel: phf: It isn't, though it has implemented every form McCLIM is missing.
gabriel_laddel: It has useful comments too, but the CFFI makes it a no-go for me.
phf: oh it cffi's to gtk or somesuch?
gabriel_laddel: I have nfi, just saw that they utilize a cffi at some point. I interviewed at franz and talked with them about it (this is why it was released?) -- they have no vision and I consider anything they touch to be tainted.
gabriel_laddel: Franz Inc. implemented an entirely new CL GUI toolkit on top of windows and pay people to update it when windows updates.
gabriel_laddel: This, when they already had a complete clim implementation.
trinque: but windows is usg.approved
trinque: gabriel_laddel: any idea how many client contracts they survive on?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: see your previous message..
trinque: lol
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nah ima do the one where marisa tomei is a stripper next i think
gabriel_laddel: http://paste.lisp.org/display/329035 < location of all missing McCLIM forms in the franz codebase if one gets bored.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel prolly best to have both your own logger and a 2nd backup. redundancy ftw.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what do you run, your own ircd or ?
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: as a "client": kiwiirc on a bad connection, beirc if in the mood or default to emacs "host": nfi, never done it.
phf: gabriel_laddel: franz have been living in frontline foxholes since before you knew what a computer was, i don't think masamune is there yet to judge their methods
mircea_popescu: uh. i thought you measnt actually hosting the channel.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: I will be, but as of yet have not even googled for a guide on how to do so.
mircea_popescu: phf he judged it for himself mind, not telling you what to do.
gabriel_laddel: phf: what sort of company lives in foxholes for over 25 years?!
mircea_popescu: and in the butthurt of all time, trump ahead in polls. o noes.
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not telling him what to do either; i sometimes rant alongside asciilifeform, but i don't actually think gabriel_laddel should be doing something differently.
trinque: kek
asciilifeform: a weeee bit of book larnin' wouldn't kill'm
mircea_popescu: NOBODY WINS THE WAR WITH THE PRESS!111
asciilifeform: !!up gabriel_laddel
deedbot: gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: trump ?!
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel
phf: hehehe
phf: this is like the three stooges slapstik
mircea_popescu: confusion begins here.
gabriel_laddel: To answer my own question: living in a foxhole for 25 years turns you into a faggot who thinks oakland is "up and coming"
mircea_popescu: depends dood. lenin lived in a swisshole for 30 years.
asciilifeform: lieutenant onoda, 40!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lulz of all lulz is that well... not only jill stein is poisoning the clinton vote ; but so is johnson, some-fucking-how.
mircea_popescu: apparently in a contest with a popular revolutionary, the best way to lose is to play establishment. everyone eats your vote.
mircea_popescu: who could have fucken predicted.
gabriel_laddel: The franz "foxhole" == writing parsers for whoever comes along and pays them to do so, failing to exploit the most obvious benefit of lisp, surrendering the whole competitive advantage.
mircea_popescu: engineers are particularly prone to this idiocy.
mircea_popescu: opengl owned the video market for a decade, did nothing with it so microshit could catch up.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, lt onoda died recently.
gabriel_laddel: Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again?
trinque knows a method that works every time
trinque: involves a screwdriver
gabriel_laddel cannot deliver this masamune machine until the wifi works and wtf am I missing here
mircea_popescu: !!up AforA
deedbot: AforA voiced for 30 minutes.
AforA: I came here from loper OS. holy hell, wow. I've been wrecking my mind about something awfully similar for /months/ now and only now found this, good lord
mircea_popescu: you've got what, 5 years or so of logs to go through now ?
mircea_popescu: btw phf did you load the old archives yet ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at lafond getting out of his ditch experiencing "real america".
AforA: joined myself to IRC first, orienting now. ;) my thinking right now to deal with that amount of data is to shove the entire logs into infranodus.com, but that'll get reevaluate before; after I'm done reading the non-log part :)
mircea_popescu: which is the non-log part ?
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:55 mircea_popescu: which is the non-log part ?
mircea_popescu: AforA i'd certainly give a look at the result of trying to shove the whole 100mb log into that graph thingee ; because even something relatively simple like say MY wot looks like http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/mircea_popescu/
a111: Logged on 2016-10-19 23:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, lt onoda died recently.
mircea_popescu: somehow it hadn't registered
asciilifeform: not, strangely, coming up in the search.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of btcalpha - is someone gonna redo this plox ?
AforA: "graph thingy", that's one hell of an understatement :D
asciilifeform: !~seen mike_c
jhvh1: asciilifeform: I have not seen mike_c.
asciilifeform: never came up for air since the schism, eh
mircea_popescu: nope, no answer to email, he's gone.
mircea_popescu: a pity too because i really liked the graphing
asciilifeform: never popped up on the kakotron either.
mircea_popescu: i think he might just be overrun by irl.
AforA: oh and where the hell are my manners: thanks for the voice, mircea_popescu :)
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> would this be something teh foundation might consider sponsoring, ben_vulpes mod6 ? << werd. we'll discuss and get back to you. o7
mod6: fwiw, at face value, i like it.
mod6: !~tslb
jhvh1: mod6: Time since last block: 41 minutes and 23 seconds
mircea_popescu: mod6 the main consideration there, strategically, would be that while foundation's conservative finances are certainly the path to victory, the absence of any and all expenditures is probably by now becoming a drag - why'd someone donate his tax dues when the coin is just going to sit ? he might as well donate it mentally and let it sit in his own pocket. sooner or later something will hafta be done, or else why bother. somet
mircea_popescu: hing like this has the advantage that it's an entirely uninvesting expenditure (exact opposite of what the faux foundation did with its "hiring" of nsa asset gavin andresen), it commits the foundation to ~nothing and can be discontinued at any point.
asciilifeform thought that the donations would print The B0000k
mircea_popescu: well that also, but looks more like 2020.
asciilifeform: where is my motherfuckingb00000k
mircea_popescu: it's good to be able to say you know, here, we have a track record of usefulness, trust us.
mod6: mircea_popescu: a fair point. we have been pretty frugal. we have considered paying for a few things, but they never were fully baked.
mod6: asciilifeform: heheh, i thought some guy was gonna print the book for you?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for you two to discuss.
asciilifeform: lulzily, i did end up printing it personally
asciilifeform: on ordinary laser
mod6: werd.
asciilifeform: and then tearing out chunks of it as i nuked'em
mod6: mircea_popescu: makes sense. we'll discuss.
mircea_popescu: btw, speaking of mosul & more generally the us inept engagement in the empire's graveyard : anyone know the great story of the faqir of ipi ?
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: After doing a bit of gardening this weekend, and the science thereof, I'm a bit disappointed in the all the "cool kids" who made fun of the "Horticulture Kids"
AforA: read about the book...romanian? talk about synchronicity, I was just reading this guys work, and it seemed relevant to the point about domain invalidation from V: http://fs.gallup.unm.edu/florentinsmarandache.htm. hm. and as to answer your question mircea: the non-log part being absorbing the website.
mircea_popescu: AforA what book is that ?
AforA: Asylum - sorry for neglecting to mention that
thestringpuller: !~seen shinohai
jhvh1: thestringpuller: shinohai was last seen in #trilema 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <shinohai> bit it worx and we love it
mircea_popescu: asylum is in english though.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo lulz of all lulz is that well... not only jill stein is poisoning the clinton vote ; but so is johnson, some-fucking-how. << That's been on Qntra for months nao
BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel> Framedragger: have you managed to turn off the wifi on your x220 such that it won't re-enable when you toggle the hardware switch again? << cut the antenna wires with a pair of Kleins or Dykes?
BingoBoingo: thestringpuller: It's because they are jealous they don't have an Agri-CULTURE to celebrate
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/10/probable-aspect-of-peace-on-earth-arrested-while-the-notorious-quiet-and-tranquility-evades-capture/ << Qntra - Probable Aspect Of Peace On Earth Arrested While The Notorious Quiet And Tranquility Evades Capture
BingoBoingo: ty to shinohai for the lead
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