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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192278 @ 0.00056327 = 108.3044 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: !unrate adlai
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mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how the fuck is this possibru
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.unrate.adlai:fa53170620fef5b0cd32d4e5f62509b0f82ae6df6ffc70841eb783f6915d4c9c
assbot: Successfully unrated adlai
mircea_popescu: oops sorry my bad
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.10000000 BTC on 'Yes' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b3
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83500 @ 0.00055268 = 46.1488 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: I wish I had read this when it was originally published! : mtgoxinsolvency ... ( http://bit.ly/1owfa0s )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66750 @ 0.00055225 = 36.8627 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 272300 @ 0.00055665 = 151.5758 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144600 @ 0.00055582 = 80.3716 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96660 @ 0.00055351 = 53.5023 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200242 @ 0.0005582 = 111.7751 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31701 @ 0.0005623 = 17.8255 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97900 @ 0.00056559 = 55.3713 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: I’m a web developer and I’ve been stuck with the simplest app for the last 10 days — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1V7VVEM )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76933 @ 0.0005623 = 43.2594 BTC [-] {2}
ben_vulpes: "talking to the community about my “analysis paralysis loop” caused by the excessive amount of available tools to choose from and to investigate resulted in the community suggesting to try out, spend time, learn and investigate four more technologies that I haven’t even considered in the first place. Good job, Javascript!"
ben_vulpes: GOOOOOOOOALD
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131800 @ 0.00056596 = 74.5935 BTC [+] {4}
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b4
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75316 @ 0.00056623 = 42.6462 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34300 @ 0.0005623 = 19.2869 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 121317 @ 0.0005623 = 68.2165 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17358 @ 0.00056225 = 9.7595 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 191492 @ 0.0005579 = 106.8334 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo wait, are those NAVY seals ? << yes
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91300 @ 0.00056623 = 51.6968 BTC [+]
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403295 << No big deal other than lols have value so twitter should be denied lols that don't come at the public expense of the Mayos
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 01:01:43; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403016 << sheesh sorry. It won't happen again.
assbot: Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLmDWs )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96757 @ 0.00056655 = 54.8177 BTC [+] {4}
BingoBoingo: punkman: And now the devils have to confront it
assbot: Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLnExJ )
punkman: '"Oh, you wanted to *increment a counter*?! Good luck with that!" -- the distributed systems literature'
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169831 @ 0.0005619 = 95.428 BTC [-] {4}
BingoBoingo: Fucking revisionists. Apparently now caffeine and not "having been the world's fattest man" killed a one time world's fattest man http://www.sfgate.com/world/article/6-energy-drinks-a-day-blamed-for-death-of-6801521.php?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link
assbot: Binging on energy drinks killed world's heaviest man - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1QZxzw5 )
assbot: The Long Con | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tg3fjZ )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143500 @ 0.00056622 = 81.2526 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60450 @ 0.0005667 = 34.257 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161000 @ 0.0005667 = 91.2387 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80922 @ 0.00056678 = 45.865 BTC [+]
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403407 << mega-l0l!! land of the rising sun does not read the logz! doesn't know how to set up 'coke machine' ?!
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 08:01:06; punkman: "AFAIK Mark Karpelès hasn't been allowed any visits, not even contacts with his family and is not allowed to use a computer either. He already lost 35 kg but still hasn't accepted to be the scapegoat, which seems to be why he's still detained after more than 4 months, without any trial or official charges…"
asciilifeform: and from where was the quote?
asciilifeform: srsly why feed google.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89132 @ 0.00056384 = 50.2562 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143350 @ 0.00056259 = 80.6473 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up Reydev
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> GOOOOOOOOALD << i rolfed.
mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow"
mircea_popescu skips this nonsense. derp does not have the first clue as to bitcoin.
Reydev: Hi all. For those holding a decent amount of BTC or other crypto, would you ever consider (pseudonymously) self-identifying on a richlist-like site purely existing to flaunt your riches?
mircea_popescu: depends.
mircea_popescu: would you tell your wife ?
Reydev: Tell her what?
mircea_popescu: about your crypto fortune
Reydev: hmm
Reydev: yes
Reydev: partly
mircea_popescu: then the answer is yes, all that's left to establish is if the community in question is as close to you as your wife.
Reydev: You know there are people who like to hide their fortune and there are those who love to be on the cover of Forbes
Reydev: But the internet offers the possibility of pseudonymity
mircea_popescu: or the delusion thereof.
fluffypony: hence the pseudo :-P
Reydev: yeah
polarbeard: I want to be anonymously famous
fluffypony: polarbeard: your wish has been granted!
asciilifeform: pseudopseudo!
fluffypony: you know guys, I once met polarbeard
fluffypony: he's chill af
mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca8j9_hUUAAgnN9.jpg:large << the one thing the dude trying to push facebook with that doesn't mention is that the facebook-alikes in there (zynga, groupon etc) were offered earlier than facebook ; and that they were doing JUST AS GOOD at some point in their spam cycle.
mircea_popescu: where's myspace, the first billion dollar interwebs "corporation" ?
fluffypony: ask Tom
Reydev: actually there are many "celebrities" by now only known by their internet persona
mircea_popescu: fluffypony where was that ?
mircea_popescu: Reydev really ? name one ?
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: where was what?
mircea_popescu lives in the sort of cave where even kardashian is more of a starlet than a celebrity.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony met polarbeard
Reydev: all pro game guys
fluffypony: I was joking - he wanted to be famous, so I was name-dropping
Reydev: like starcraft celebs
Reydev: all youtube celebs
assbot: Cel mai bun paladin din the world. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr7ENi )
Reydev: ahahah
Reydev: there was something highly entertaining about the guy, in all its cringeyness
mircea_popescu: fluffypony wait wut
mircea_popescu: you know this one ?
mircea_popescu thought this the peak of obscurity.
Reydev: i played wow for a while, dont ban me plz
fluffypony: mircea_popescu: he said he wanted to be famous, so I was namedropping his name like he's famous :)
mircea_popescu: notably, i have NEVER seen a woman so deeply humiliated as that chick obviously is
Reydev: he was kind of a celeb there
mircea_popescu: (iirc she ended up a candidate for some derpy party somewhere in their nordic system there. denmark perhaps)
mircea_popescu: the things young women will put up with...
mircea_popescu: Reydev i was actually in the wow closed beta. it... sucked.
polarbeard: fluffypony: but by naming me you broke my dream of being anonymously famous
punkman: Athene is not that obscure
fluffypony: polarbeard: point
fluffypony: polarbeard: I once met <insert name here>
mircea_popescu: polarbeard wait your name is Polar Beard irl
polarbeard: yay, now I'm feeling it
Reydev: i guess there will be Athenes enough in the BTC space that love to show off their holdings
Reydev: crypto space*
mircea_popescu: i guess that can happen... i once knew a chick Dusty Diamond. she was a... ahem. cough. coder.
mircea_popescu: Reydev you have nfi lmao. look up into uppity tortilla.
polarbeard: mircea_popescu: Polar B. Eard
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coder. you know, from latin coda, tail.
asciilifeform: ahahaha
PeterL: I went to school with Crystal Champagne
BingoBoingo: * mircea_popescu reads punkman's article by some lawyer. 1.st line ? "Bitcoin, a peer-to-peer electronic cash system, is intended to allow" << Tis of immense value as an instrument of trolling
mircea_popescu: i bow to your superior knowledges bb.
mircea_popescu: PeterL was her mom hot ?
mircea_popescu: punkman what's he up to these days ? can't be poker, can it.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107700 @ 0.00056748 = 61.1176 BTC [+] {4}
PeterL: dunno, never met her mom, but she was kinda skanky
asciilifeform: instrument of trolling >> a trawl?
punkman: mircea_popescu: social media, like everyone else
mircea_popescu: i guess i missed that boat, what with digg and myspace banning me and all.
punkman: tldr of the article you linked?
asciilifeform many years ago tried arsebook : mega-snore.
polarbeard: asciilifeform: building shiva, instructions unclear, ended up here: http://dpaste.com/0RM4BAK.txt
mircea_popescu: punkman mine ? just poking fun at the guy, nothing really. linked for the vids.
asciilifeform: polarbeard: betcha you didn't apply part1 patch !
mircea_popescu: the 1st symptom of a well written guide : author knows exactly what the user did wrong.
polarbeard: I certainly shaked the tree a bit, will recheck
asciilifeform: this is a legit point, 2 is not vtronically linked to 1
asciilifeform: i actually bashed my head over this
Reydev: tortilla refers to the pietila guy?
mircea_popescu: Reydev yeah, hanbot coinage.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz.
mircea_popescu: i thought it caught comedy goldfish
BingoBoingo: I catches that as well as commedy redfish and bluefish.
mircea_popescu: and comedi pizdish
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i left shiva1 an island to emphasize that it is a heathen and largely unverified turd (tinyscheme)
mircea_popescu: this is one thing. the other is that you could have said in the docs.
mircea_popescu: !up Reydev
mircea_popescu: how about you register a pgp sig with assbot.
asciilifeform: the tinyscheme genesis is not doc enough??
polarbeard: asciilifeform: oh, so I should actually finish having b/tinyscheme *and* b/bitcoin/src/shiva ?
BingoBoingo: I guess it's time to mount some of the comedy goldfish so captured on the wall https://archive.is/qI4mt
assbot: Hard Fork Conspiracy Treacherous | Riddell Williams P.S. Seattle Law Firm : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrabHb )
asciilifeform: polarbeard: no!
asciilifeform: just apply shiva part1.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i always thought someone should just take all the bs "hey guise is bitcoin legit ?" noob questions, take them to craigslist, replace bitcoin with name of city and go all concerned-like
polarbeard: confused, why last patches press b/tinyscheme ?
mircea_popescu: "hey guise, is seattle legit ? my girlfriend got a job here but i dunno... i looked on the itnernet and it seems like a real town and whatnot, but how can i be sure ?"
asciilifeform: you pressed tinyscheme genesis didntcha.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: There might be some merit to that.
asciilifeform: Don't!!
polarbeard: oh, okay, that's a separate tinyscheme tree ? to freeze & possibly work on it?
polarbeard: I see the light.
asciilifeform: It was turned into shiva part1
asciilifeform: by altering paths
asciilifeform: press ~that~.
mircea_popescu: you realise none of this is obvious, do you ?
asciilifeform: i have given up trying to telepath out what is and isn't obvious to folks
polarbeard: if I can drop an idea, perhaps tagging the ml submission subjects would help...
Reydev: Ill register a sig later, dont have much useful to add anymore. Im building the richlist anyway, even if its just an exercise in the end :) and ill be lurking some
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147600 @ 0.00056791 = 83.8235 BTC [+]
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mircea_popescu: !up eamonnw
assbot: trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PreiTM )
assbot: trb/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig at master · polarbeard/trb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrehPK )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112600 @ 0.00056791 = 63.9467 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
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mircea_popescu: !up wpalczynski
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo dude that thing hit reddit exactly where it hurts lol
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97317 @ 0.00056203 = 54.6951 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: who knew that insane as they might be, divorced from any sort of reality as they may find themselves, nevertheless getting lawyers to not be upset with them is THE ONE TRUE THING they care about.
punkman: heh
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5660 @ 0.0005688 = 3.2194 BTC [+] {2}
jurov: danielpbarron: that "nobody cares" quip was definitely not about coinbr. there inability to provide solid service still after 3 years drives me mad
jurov: it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard
jurov: trading derivatives instead would work much better, but that needs to redo whole thing completely
jurov: was talking about this with wywialm, told him ok let's do it but the other dudes should go into wot too
jurov: that has not happeped yet
jurov: ;;seen wywialm
gribble: wywialm was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 4 hours, 35 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <wywialm> thanks, BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch
mircea_popescu: yet for a class (or perhaps a reunion of classes, dunno yet) of folk it seems the height of impossibility.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181600 @ 0.00055683 = 101.1203 BTC [-] {4}
davout: mircea_popescu: "i have no time for this gpg business"
davout: "i'll have to look into it sometime"
davout: MIKE ECHO HOTEL
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96562 @ 0.00056922 = 54.965 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78801 @ 0.0005697 = 44.8929 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14649 @ 0.00057059 = 8.3586 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00057059 = 22.7665 BTC [+]
assbot: You'll soon track Bluetooth devices directly over the internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1QbKYOn )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46271 @ 0.00057119 = 26.4295 BTC [+] {2}
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403591 << what's so hard for peasant learning to sign his name ? hard in more than one way !
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 14:46:24; mircea_popescu: i wonder what's so hard about wot. people get in routinely, one a day by now or somesuch
asciilifeform: (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...)
PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403533 << maybe just me, but i normally think of a ww2 mine trawl, the kind towed by a tank
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 13:39:30; BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> instrument of trolling >> a trawl? << A Trawler, like the boat. It puts out lines that catch lulz.
BingoBoingo: That might just be you. The fishboat came first11!!!111eleventy
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4738 @ 0.00056922 = 2.697 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: interestingly, these were an 'ultimate' weapon, in the sense that nobody, afaik, found a pill against them (at least during ww2)
davout: PeterL: actually it can be!
PeterL: I was thinking of typing gpg commands like in a terminal, I guess it can be as easy as clicking a button if you set things up
asciilifeform: let's also point and grunt reactor controls.
PeterL: well, guy off the street does not get access to reactor controls
punkman: PeterL: signing is not easily done with a touchscreen phone << it's not really the interface, more that phones suck
punkman: you could probably use cardano on your phone
assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 83733 @ 0.00042023 = 35.1871 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403585 << ok, my main concern is that I have quite a bit of shares that I had not intention of selling any time soon, and I'd imagine if you shut down you'd just liquidate it all at whatever the current bids are
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 14:41:19; jurov: it's not about speed, but rather structural, mpex api makes sharing an account in this way hard
jurov: no, if I decide to, it will not be shut down at a moment's notice, the situation is NOT so dire
danielpbarron: ok thank you for the clarification
danielpbarron: and thank you for running the service :D
asciilifeform is not a user of jurov's service, but always found it interesting that it has no (afaik) competition. must be quite good.
BingoBoingo: I recommend it. Works well.
asciilifeform believes
asciilifeform would use it, if he had with what !
BingoBoingo: Well, you got qntra shares
asciilifeform: and why would i want them to slowly melt away ?
jurov: H0D1!!!
asciilifeform: thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee
asciilifeform: which is fair, but it means that i have no use for it
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00056064 = 5.3261 BTC [-]
PeterL: there is a high investment required for competition, needs a seat on MPEx, not sure if the small number of potential users would justify that
asciilifeform: seat on mpex costs about what an old bulldozer costs
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (gotta get used to ~having~ a signable name...) << you speak wise.
asciilifeform: how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood !
asciilifeform: *rentals
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> how many bulldozer rentails in your neighbourhood ! << 3
PeterL: but would you earn more in broker fees than buldozer wages?
mircea_popescu: actually back in ro you could rent any machinery. they all have "call here to rent this item" on them
BingoBoingo: There are three places in town I could rent a bulldozer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same anywhere, i think
asciilifeform: certainly even here in mordoristan
mircea_popescu: so then... there's a ton of buldozer rentals in your neighbourhood ?
asciilifeform: at least 4 within 10 minutes driving
mircea_popescu: punkman> you could probably use cardano on your phone << you could prolly rootkit smartphone into a half-decent autosigner device.
asciilifeform: dozers, excavators, trucks
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rng is tricky bit on those
mircea_popescu: no, import it.
PeterL: so owning buldozer yields $x from rentals, does opening broker service yield $x from potential clients? I don't think the market is strong enough for that yet, but I could be wrong
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> thing is that you can't 'hodl' on coinbr, it has parking fee << so for i've more than managed to beat the parking fee
PeterL: me too
PeterL: most months
mircea_popescu: there must be a way to solve this - like if user agrees never to trade for the following year, deposit shares and instead of charge maybe even pay him something.
mircea_popescu: irl brokers lend out the shares to pay for this.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140230 @ 0.00055861 = 78.3339 BTC [-] {3}
PeterL: but just 'hodl'ing, it is hard to beat parking fee
danielpbarron: yeah most of my gains were betting on MPEx beating the previous hard fork scare that drove the price of MPOE into the teens
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78450 @ 0.00055654 = 43.6606 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: that was so ridoinculous
danielpbarron: it was very awesome. 10/10. would play again
mircea_popescu: the nature of virginity. back then people actually thought a mp-gavin dispute could possibly be resolved any other way.
mircea_popescu: if further evidence that social media rots the brain could be needed...
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "The democratic party is aborting much of its future voterbase"
danielpbarron: i wasn't even nervous. I figured if MPEx wasn't going to win, I didn't want any part of bitcoin
asciilifeform wonders how many rounds of '101' gavin's handlers consider him good for, until he goes to pasture
danielpbarron: !up BCB
BCB: Thank you danielpbarron
danielpbarron: !rated bcb
assbot: You rated user bcb on 05-May-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: He sold me 1 bitcoin via paypal back when it was under 100..
danielpbarron: haven't seen you in a minute!
BCB: danielpbarron: been a while
danielpbarron: how's it going with you?
BCB: ok
BCB: I see you guys started a new Foundation
danielpbarron: yessiree, you like what you see?
BCB: I just noticed it recently. Have had much time to poke around
asciilifeform: !s from:mircea_popescu !unrate adlai
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asciilifeform: ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time
asciilifeform: and then gets into a foul fugue, where he posts cryptograms discussing having nothing to live for, etc.
asciilifeform: pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s
BingoBoingo: How did asciilifeform early 00's fix that?
asciilifeform: didn't.
asciilifeform: just too busy for wankatronics
asciilifeform: but i think i spent more of my life adlaiing than not
shinohai: Perhaps laying off the sauce would help.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> just too busy for wankatronics << AHA, there is a solution.
asciilifeform: not really 'solution' in the usual sense
BingoBoingo: Sure it is. Many actual solutions to life's problems are this at their core.
asciilifeform: what i meant to say, is that i studied the Ancient Art of Shutting The Fuck Up
asciilifeform: it doesn't make one less depressed, but does lead to reduced adlaiing.
asciilifeform not yet fully master of the Art
BingoBoingo: Exactly. The Big Book has a chapter called "into action" but it does not have chapter titled "Into Feeling" or "Into Thinking"
asciilifeform: in the final '9 dan' stage, one is indistinguishable from a normal person
asciilifeform: (except possibly on autopsy)
asciilifeform: from this effect, i think, comes the proverbial 'but he was so happy! why did he eat the nagant?!' thing
asciilifeform: iirc there was a spiffy mircea_popescu essay about this, long ago.
trinque: to be a simpleton... one will die either way.
trinque: better to only consider the option he has
trinque: *options
trinque: and perhaps one of those options incrementally improves his life, perhaps it doesn't
trinque studied the art of fundamentally not giving a shit
assbot: Austrian Minister Seeks Constitutional Protection For Cash Payments | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLTvyg )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126800 @ 0.00055617 = 70.5224 BTC [-] {4}
mircea_popescu: !rated BCB
assbot: You have not rated BCB.
mircea_popescu: the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> ftr adlai makes me very sad, it is clear that the man has the aptitude for constructive work, but somehow falls down every time << seems to me like he's zig-zagging broadly towards sense, but who knows these things.
mircea_popescu: you know you can self voice, dpb is in the lordship
BCB: mircea_popescu: we go way back
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> pretty much asciilifeform circa late '90s << man i was having a ball late 90s. such days!
BCB: is bitcoin still a thing
mircea_popescu: BCB yeah but be specific
asciilifeform: was there ~ever~ a time when mircea_popescu was ~not~ 'having a ball' ??
BCB: I thought it was turning into the bankchain
mircea_popescu: last xmas was pretty miserable, for instance.
asciilifeform had surreal experience this morning that BingoBoingo might appreciate. was looking through cabinets at rupturefarms for $officesuply, and opened one that contained... bottles of whiskey
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ << actually this is a fucking great idea. the right to settle commerce without interference from third parties is way more important than the right of women to not be chattel property.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the name's nevertheless familiar. where do i know you from ? << Bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: o from hanbot's files ?
BCB: lot of battles with your girl MOEpr
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Wonderful. A desk isn't a proper desk without bourbon.
BingoBoingo no longer has a proper desk
mircea_popescu: lol. didja win any ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i was told long ago that there are, so to speak, 'dry' ~and~ 'wet' offices in usa, but did not see with own eyes until recently
asciilifeform: so far my understanding is that the latter is found largely on the left side of the potomac river, the former - on the right
asciilifeform: but this is speaking strictly for the swamp, i have nfi re: the rest of the continent
mircea_popescu: http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/BCB/ << lol wouldja look at that thing.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The only dry office is the one that hasn't been checked thoroughly enough
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understand, this is not a covert thing, the bottles come out at meetings etc
BingoBoingo: One place I worked telephone answering department manager was a guy who kept vodka filled chocolates on his desk.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo> http://qntra.net/2016/02/austrian-minister-seeks-constitutional-protection-for-cash-payments/ << actually this is a fucking great idea. the right to settle commerce without interference from third parties is way more important than the right of women to not be chattel property. << Well isn't that why we're here?
assbot: Austrian Minister Seeks Constitutional Protection For Cash Payments | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SLTvyg )
mats: wet offices are more common in tech companies in my brief experience
BCB: mircea_popescu: No one ever wins with her
mats: FB, TripAdvisor, and Sonos offices I've visited, have had folks with growlers on their desks, open bars, the works
BCB: I actually have a full bottle of Deanston's Highland Single Malt Scotch Whisky on my desk right now if anyone would like a taste.
asciilifeform: deanston's highland ... << 'liquid bagpipe'
asciilifeform: ^ oughta be a brand
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37950 @ 0.0005547 = 21.0509 BTC [-] {2}
shinohai drinks whisky with BCB [~]D
BCB: shinohai: cheers
BingoBoingo: !up BCB
funkenstein_ raises glass with shinohai and BCB
funkenstein_: nice patch polarbeard!
BCB: funkenstein_: chin chin
funkenstein_: I would resubmit the privkeytools patch to ml, but I'm unsure where the rebase should go (in patch order) and - would rather await further tests from trinque and others, seeing as this touches live ammunition
funkenstein_: in other news I have made a measurement with an uncalibrated instrument with signal to noise ratio well under 1 part per billion
funkenstein_: it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize?
ben_vulpes: what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs...
trinque: funkenstein_: I can at least confirm that it worked without incident in my case.
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: was it... your nose ?
asciilifeform: (instrument)
funkenstein_: trinque, great
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: he did nothing other than get unrated by mircea_popescu for the nth time
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i keep an closet full entirely of wine and liquor at my office...
funkenstein_: asciilifeform, lol.. the nose knows
danielpbarron has a bottle of Don Julio blanco tequila, just had a home made tequila sunrise
danielpbarron: fresh squeezed oranage (not that bottled crap)
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu re: a thread from 3 years ago >>>> http://hollandshielding.com/219-Transparent_EMI_shielded_windows_displays_and_foils
assbot: Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: (vendor picked at random, apparently this is a commonplace product)
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68497 @ 0.00056121 = 38.4412 BTC [+] {2}
mats: http://www.eweek.com/security/pwn2own-hacking-contest-returns-as-joint-hpe-trend-micro-effort.html 'While Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome and Apple Safari are targets, Firefox isn't because it's apparently too easy and not keeping up with modern security: "'We wanted to focus on the browsers that have made serious security improvements in the last year,' Brian
assbot: Pwn2Own Hacking Contest Returns as Joint HPE-Trend Micro Effort ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZAhGy )
mats: Gorenc, manager of Vulnerability Research at HPE said."'
mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i have tasked $admin with procuring milagro cointreau and fresh lime juice for the entirely made up national margarita day
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81303 @ 0.00056304 = 45.7768 BTC [+]
danielpbarron: i had a great margarita the other day at a local mexican resaurant; guy squeezed a lime infront of me (which is remarkable in these parts where most others use a "margarita mix")
assbot: Open Europe Closing | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1mxayWc )
mats: I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades
asciilifeform: all of it, in'shallah.
BingoBoingo: Probably the nordic ones mostly.
punkman: "Since 1995, people have been able to cross borders among Schengen Area member countries without document checks." myeah, right
assbot: 800 Greek farmers storm Agriculture Ministry in Athens, police fire tear gas (VIDEO) — RT News ... ( http://bit.ly/1R0aUzN )
jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex proxy 23.235.235.113 has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc
jurov: if the attacker wanted me to lose much time and nerves, he couldn't do much better...
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222798 @ 0.00055448 = 123.537 BTC [-] {3}
jurov: !up Guest9440533
jurov: ...
BingoBoingo: So persistent, yet notrly
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76938 @ 0.00055379 = 42.6075 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up zuardi
BingoBoingo: "Bubbles"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126593 @ 0.00055327 = 70.0401 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44150 @ 0.00055319 = 24.4233 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124500 @ 0.00055676 = 69.3166 BTC [+] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69399 @ 0.00055299 = 38.377 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57450 @ 0.00056023 = 32.1852 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up princessnell
princessnell: ty bb. hiya all.
BingoBoingo: Hello princessnell, welcome back
assbot: Holding Ourselves to a Higher Standard — Seven Steps to Mitigate the Human Flaws in our Bitcoin… — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/20QC5oE )
BingoBoingo: Interesting, princessnell Do you want to qntra up a bit on the retardedness of conduct codes or should I do it?
BingoBoingo: princessnell: Also you got quite a few qntra shares, maybe get a hold of jurov about claiming them?
BingoBoingo: If you haven't already
princessnell: i don't know what the second question means, but for the first take it away
princessnell: oh shares is a noun
princessnell: i guess i'll do that
jurov: you want to donate me ~4BTC?
jurov: :)
princessnell: i am very out of the loop
BingoBoingo: princessnell: Seriously if you claim them now It's a serious amount of BTC.
princessnell: how do i claim them?
jurov: princessnell: make a gpg signed request to transfer them to mpex account or coinbr account
princessnell: so i guess you get shares by contributing articles. and i wrote one or two things so i have shares.
jurov: you have 15k shares, lemme dig it
BingoBoingo: princessnell: Yeah. You have about 15 kiloshares
mats: geez, the one thing princessnell wrote is worth 4btc?
assbot: Andreas Antonopolous Testifies Before Canadian Senate Committee | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsbLsx )
princessnell: i say it's worth more
BingoBoingo: http://mpex.site/?mpsic=S.QNTR << current market for the shares
assbot: S.QNTR last 83733@0.00042023 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PsbKVm )
princessnell: ok, i'll do that when i get home. thanks for filling me in.
mats scribbles a note to write for qntra
BingoBoingo: mats: It was the early history, but yes it seems people value the words a lot
BingoBoingo: Prolly not doing any more transcripts like that again.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 161504 @ 0.00055662 = 89.8964 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 146550 @ 0.00055242 = 80.9572 BTC [-] {5}
ben_vulpes: princessnell: isn't bruce fenton a child molestor or some such?
princessnell: ben_vulpes i had never heard this
ben_vulpes: "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage!
princessnell: maybe you are thinking of brock pierce? but i thought he was the molestee.
ben_vulpes: mebbe that
ben_vulpes: "We don't care...who was morally wrong." << i do.
ben_vulpes: "respect and acknowledge that their concerns are valid, even if you disagree" << hyu hyu hyu yes please by all means try to hold two entirely contradictory notions in your head at the same time
BingoBoingo: !up qntranet
ben_vulpes: eh fuggit who cares about barbarians outside of the wot
ben_vulpes: none of y'alls concerns matter.
asciilifeform: !up princessnell
ben_vulpes: > "non binding pledge" << ahaha ayyy lmao
princessnell: my favorite is his advice to write your feelings in a letter and tear it up to get everything off your chest. good lord man, get a hold of yourself.
ben_vulpes: yeah that's p amusing
ben_vulpes: hey how've you been princessnell
ben_vulpes: and what brings you back around?
princessnell: been well. yourself? fork nonsense brought me back. also i love the characters here.
danielpbarron: who is your favorite character?
danielpbarron: !up Reydev
princessnell: you're up there, don't worry
danielpbarron: awww <3
ben_vulpes: princessnell: had a kid, so that's eating up a huge amount of previously discretionary time
danielpbarron: >> Express your issues << people showing signs of running issue should be sent outside the camp for 7 days, and not let back until the issue is no more
princessnell: wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you
assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!
princessnell: thank you assbot
princessnell: i am hoping to have wee ones soon as well. i will be wed in september so after that we're off.
ben_vulpes: congratulations to yourself as well
ben_vulpes: may your offspring beat mean reversion as frequently as is statistically likely
princessnell: you are too kind
mats: lol
jurov: !b 3
assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3JMH6JZ.txt )
Reydev: !register 7CCB395483FDDC68A7E7B70E7CA40926D6E34EAD
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 7CCB395483FDDC68A7E7B70E7CA40926D6E34EAD. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key D6E34EAD / "Reydev (.) <contact@reydev.io>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
princessnell: i'm out. bye friends.
asciilifeform: '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold
jurov: !rate Reydev 1 new blood (or milk, whatevs)
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e6bf926d05455a98
danielpbarron: oh yeah, the "rich list" guy
asciilifeform: 'let go' of the liars, the shitgnomes, aha, right.
jurov: !v assbot:jurov.rate.Reydev.1:0a3dae57bca1f1eaaca5944fdf5ac6a44c264efff13a62406fa37afbaf90fa5f
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for Reydev with note: new blood (or milk, whatevs)
danielpbarron: jurov gets to be the rating slut this time :D
jurov: Reydev: you can now voice yourself with assbot
jurov: maybe he'll go into eulora and work for me :P
danielpbarron: we sure need it
danielpbarron: i have work queued up!
danielpbarron: i missed fghj the other day
jurov: !up ahmedbodi
danielpbarron: ahmedbodi, how's -OTC these days?
ben_vulpes: fghj lol
danielpbarron: 'Nidhogg'
asciilifeform: from amazon review of conductive paint q&a: 'How to prevent the disturbing from the uper floor of my appartment? They may use Prism200.'
asciilifeform: then i wonder wtf is 'prism200', and lo and behold, vendor www: http://www.cambridgeconsultants.com/prism-200
assbot: Prism 200 | Cambridge Consultants ... ( http://bit.ly/1obo3g8 )
asciilifeform: mega-pr0duct
ben_vulpes: man i want to hack on radar
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: anything in particular in mind ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42450 @ 0.00056305 = 23.9015 BTC [+]
shinohai: Not radar ben_vulpes but this is fun to hack on: http://www.astronaut.ru/bookcase/prog.htm
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00056305 = 7.2633 BTC [+]
shinohai: O.o the *real* pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: ahhh good to be back
pete_dushenski: !unrate mats
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ad75876b5345660f
pete_dushenski: !v assbot:pete_dushenski.unrate.mats:a1912dbe7cf94c852c65b36334b49fd156aa2c6b96ae5d7e36d512953a80e630
assbot: Successfully unrated mats
pete_dushenski: ^in light of his continued efforts.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 176500 @ 0.00056447 = 99.629 BTC [+] {3}
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/Q4WwK << lulz from recent contravex commenter. a rehash of our logs from about a year ago posted on derpstalk. kinda cheeky.
assbot: #bitcoin-bassets logs ... ( http://bit.ly/1obsAzd )
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: low cost implementations, jamming, longstanding fascination with MEMS, balloons, whole buncha half-thought-through stuff in the vein
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-02-2016#1402777 << my 'rusty benz' is infrastructure exactly like asciilifeform's z80s are infrastructure. take that fwiw but i dun really see the applicability.
assbot: Logged on 11-02-2016 13:44:45; asciilifeform: if pete_d's benz then it also yes!
pete_dushenski: tho 'lord of the vehicles' has a ring to it.
asciilifeform: my rusty z80s are infrastructure?!
BingoBoingo: But for that you need plurality pete_dushenski
danielpbarron: pete_dushenski, lolol this lawg is wonderful
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: he prolly has enough spare parts to make a 2nd
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: ikr!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: as you do with z80!
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: but no, neither of our rusty side-fascinations are 'infrastructure'. that was the point.
assbot: Setting the date to 1 January 1970 will brick your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlHrfg )
danielpbarron: andwhythismeansyou'restupidpooranduseless.htm (2553 words) <<< hahahah i'm laughing so hard
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201759 @ 0.00056895 = 114.7908 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 16:54:06; assbot: [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 83733 @ 0.00042023 = 35.1871 BTC [+]
shinohai: pete_dushenski: how ya like this? I thought of your benz and the diplomatic flags when I made it.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: cattack!
pete_dushenski: "The date bug affects iPhones, iPads and iPod touches with 64-bit processors running iOS 8 or iOS 9, including the iPhone 5S or newer, the iPad Air, iPad mini 2 or the 2015 sixth generation iPod touch or newer." << or why iphone 5 with os6 was last iphone.
pete_dushenski: which is exactly what i use as an ipod, it so happens
mod6: !rate hanbot 4 Wonderful help testing TRB.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0d66340b173959c4
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 21:56:23; princessnell: my favorite is his advice to write your feelings in a letter and tear it up to get everything off your chest. good lord man, get a hold of yourself.
mod6: !rate ben_vulpes 5 The Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/905653adafb2fba6
mod6: !rate jurov 4 Great work for The Bitcoin Foundation.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8ed1b7bba767b4ce
shinohai: I saw that too lol. is Bitcoin tumblr now?
danielpbarron: hey i have exactly an iPhone 5 running iOS 8
mod6: !rate asciilifeform 4 Many arms. Outstanding work on The Bitcoin Foundation.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/dcf9180abe9d1e8a
mod6: !rate trinque 3 deedbot. Great work testing & Development for TRB.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ce28388d7504b8dd
mod6: !rate thestringpuller 3 Helped test TRB.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8ef701980c51641b
danielpbarron: heh, did my post-winter WoT cleaning inspire a trend?
mod6: !rate shinohai 2 Very responsive and helpful testing of TRB & V.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/e46fe88c5fcb426c
shinohai: Loagradesco muchissimo
mod6: !rate punkman 2 Development for TRB.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/78aa680c10fc2385
mod6: !rate tomservo 2 Built TRB node.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/4648d9f4c000ebf2
mod6: !rate danielpbarron 2 Eulorian. Nice help testing TRB & b-a wiki.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/49a1ef518dd0def6
mod6: !rate peterl 1 Built TRB node.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f116b5c2ae5ba1eb
danielpbarron: or wait, i think i have iOS 7, or how do i even check?
mod6: !rate phf 1 Nice development work on TRB.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/5eabef6a79b21d8c
mod6: !rate bingoboingo 1 Qntra
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/64c70689fa94787e
mod6: !rate diana_coman 2 Eulorian. Great work on FoxyBot.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0e36a4e52193280c
mod6: !rate gernika 1 Nice work testing TRB & V.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/30068e290074b6c4
danielpbarron: I think the correct term for Eulora players is 'Euloran' even though the original bezzle-bag says 'Eulorian'
mod6: !rate pete_dushenski 2 Built TRB node & helps test. Runs contravex.com a TMSR related blog.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/182ae0e761ef5c8e
mod6: danielpbarron: ah, noted
danielpbarron: wouldn't be the only mispelling of items. see: ennumeration (should be enumeration)
mod6: sorry for all the noise.
mod6: !rate kakobrekla 3 assbot, #b-a, BitBet.
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/45dc491dd48b9665
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: to check ios version, go to general > about.
danielpbarron: i did that, which thing on the list is it?
pete_dushenski: mod6: salud ;)
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: 'version'
danielpbarron: i have Version : 8.4
mod6: !rate funkenstein_ 2 Testing & Development of TRB
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/62f2b22de43684c3
mod6: pete_dushenski: o7
assbot: ШЕРП / SHERP / Вездеход Алексея Гарагашьяна - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlIDPF )
mod6: haha
asciilifeform: i found, near $rupturefarm... of all things: 'ural' dealership !
shinohai: mentiras
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403138 << lo! this was the EXACT pseudo-pete-as-puppeteer conversation between girl and little guy in airport when he tried first french fry. "why do you guys eat anything other than this, it's the best!"
assbot: Logged on 11-02-2016 22:43:14; asciilifeform: more of how the boy might have problems grasping why his parents do anything other than eating cake
pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to!
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:1daa337f8f77aaeac430f462864a87b21ddc140fa0f8384592242fb781340fde
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mod6: o.O
jurov: copymalefication
pete_dushenski: plus, he can say all kinds of things i couldn't. and when a 5-month old says inappropriate things it's funny! it's like our own personal 'kids say the darndest things'
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.ben_vulpes.5:6bcbdeb89c6873b927a52143a7bb1b2164869be0ff9384e0573edb860a27edb5
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
mod6: what in the fuck
shinohai: ^happend to mp last night
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:1daa337f8f77aaeac430f462864a87b21ddc140fa0f8384592242fb781340fde
assbot: Invalid verfication string.
danielpbarron: might have expired?
mod6: these don't expire do they? that way they can be done async
danielpbarron: it takes like 10 minutes if i'm not mistaken, but yeah they expire
mod6: no way really?
shinohai: they expire for me like in ~10-15
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118000 @ 0.00056764 = 66.9815 BTC [-] {4}
pete_dushenski: mod6: pretty sure it's 15 min max
mod6: ugh fail
danielpbarron: don't worry you don't have to spam again, the !rate part can be done in private and then you can do the verification in here
danielpbarron: or both private even, but i think people like to see at least one of them
shinohai: I have a shitty bash script to do it quickly, generates qrs too ^^
mod6: i do all of this async
mod6: so it sucks for me to have only 15 minutes.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-02-2016#1403151 << anyone who wants to give up 'vacationing' is advised to have kids. it becomes 'travelling'. perhaps as it should be.
assbot: Logged on 11-02-2016 22:48:16; mircea_popescu: vacation fucking sucks.
BingoBoingo: mod6: thermal printer and laser scanner?
pete_dushenski: bbias. drink time.
jurov: dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned.
BingoBoingo: Kako has to be paranoid enough to get cookies without mp finding out kako got cookies
kakobrekla: yeah 15 minutes time window iirc
kakobrekla: noone complained, yet.
assbot: Bruce Fenton Proposes Historical Revisionism | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlLVlW )
gernika: thanks mod6!
BingoBoingo: http://www.nsd.se/nyheter/boden/extra-har-intraffade-mordforsoket-9861329.aspx << Anyone know Swedish? Apparently seems to be the datacenter some KNCminer shit is at.
assbot: "Mordförsöket inträffade i serverhallen" - Boden - NSD.se ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlM7BI )
mod6: gernika: haha, don't thank me yet.
mod6 has to beat the clock.
gernika: heh yeah just read the rest of the log. fingers crossed :)
BingoBoingo: Apparently a 20 something was stabbed by a 40 something, and machine translations swedish to english suck hamplanet fold mold
assbot: LITTLE BIG - BIG DICK - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1TdT5is )
jurov: !up pussyfreak
jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.punkman.2:8837d14c548ebdf68c7a4e63aaccf70e9193437adba910ba4d1cac344322f2e4
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for punkman from 1 to 2 with note: Development for TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.tomservo.2:a1dd9a1349396fd979814b2bee0aa538a1a92c33156b1943435fb2f847a9337c
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for tomservo from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.thestringpuller.3:dd385b5f642e94a8d590a76f17544af687292c0255ed0bedc2d9de43cace1e55
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for thestringpuller from 2 to 3 with note: Helped test TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.kakobrekla.3:f2c03e62e7e9f568aa113ee30a0151245e3e909477bb23a70a528d92e4d8f147
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 2 to 3 with note: assbot, #b-a, BitBet.
shinohai: o/ pussyfreak
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.asciilifeform.4:8e150e7cf634c7b2740e4458ae06d3b1c158f34b999b70c1954e184747d7525f
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for asciilifeform from 3 to 4 with note: Many arms. Outstanding work on The Bitcoin Foundation.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.trinque.3:31cb4cad4f5998532501f9d12b66bb7665b131b4bec63497daab66203ec3e47d
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 2 to 3 with note: deedbot. Great work testing & Development for TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.pete_dushenski.2:749b964df90c174897a527e519c215abf1c0b9533284dd606b60ff9ff3d321f6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for pete_dushenski from 1 to 2 with note: Built TRB node & helps test. Runs contravex.com a TMSR related blog.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.gernika.1:eeca7591d0cfb43c9a69d806d5ccc0126c2692cf72f3219e23bdb866b6e1872b
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for gernika with note: Nice work testing TRB & V.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.ben_vulpes.5:dcede2b704f584b4b676ece0086b930701f4c8164ed03b908c92a955abea048c
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for ben_vulpes from 4 to 5 with note: The Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.shinohai.2:f6a1d18c4edd4d5d131cd4aa14de8e3bf70b7905f94a41da72cdb868b3932ae7
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for shinohai from 1 to 2 with note: Very responsive and helpful testing of TRB & V.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.phf.1:17065042ddd310a621707cca7f13724870eb3e841d87c6fc751a893096622ae6
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for phf with note: Nice development work on TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.hanbot.4:31528d0c57e75969cfdf63a7e3708cd30486bbd41ff6683b502105e73b1edb74
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for hanbot from 3 to 4 with note: Wonderful help testing TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.funkenstein_.2:86362f322be014f6beab010b2e26bcd221853f6634af88a22333f4ec8eacf094
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for funkenstein_ from 1 to 2 with note: Testing & Development of TRB.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.bingoboingo.1:1e09a8db65100757db37af2db041277edb4a290c7f950d32ea24edf964a4715d
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for bingoboingo with note: Qntra
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.peterl.1:796c27aceaeff6cbfb28650bcc5faa004902ea4a50032d45fea1bd1a1f1a3b57
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for peterl with note: Built TRB node.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.danielpbarron.2:c0d41af2c7652809a6b0337a0977af937ec4c1057bd83fb72e7ce99364fb13af
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for danielpbarron from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Nice help testing TRB & b-a wiki.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for diana_coman from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian. Great work on FoxyBot.
mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.jurov.4:b7f1717022980331e564e975e547c6d239f44a44e74770f688ea22f7e2f8f5f6
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 3 to 4 with note: Great work for The Bitcoin Foundation.
mod6: *whew*
jurov: ! bash 99
jurov: jkjk
kakobrekla: it appears 15 min is enough actually :D
mod6: "are you sure you want to paste 18 lines?" "mhmm"
mod6: i got my otp's from assbot in pm @ exactly 00:00
mod6: took me ~12 minutes and i went as fast as I could.
kakobrekla: 15>12
mod6: included a script too.
mod6: anyway. no worries.
jurov: yo, assbot likes it fast
shinohai: It proves assbot is a robust one
mod6: lol @ jurov
kakobrekla: but seriously i can make it go slower if theres an actual need for this
mod6: i think ~normally~ 15 minutes is probably plenty. but for me, i wait a while before updating ratings, so trying to do a pile of them at once isn't a good idea.
mod6: i should break it up, and do them in chunks
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403766 << no, reserved for black people, teenagers and women now. actual achievement is oppressive.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:32; funkenstein_: it matches my unverified simulations. can i haz noble prize?
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:35:57; ben_vulpes: what'd adlai do this time? i didn't see anything notably lulzy in the logs...
ben_vulpes: assumptions are showing
ben_vulpes: mine, that is
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:42:51; assbot: Transparent EMI/RFI/EMC shielded windows/displays and foils ... ( http://bit.ly/20ZzTI9 )
mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403785 << the lulziest part there is that there's this entire subculture of tor punks.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 18:48:33; mats: even better when you remember the tor browser bundle is built on top of firefox
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403791 << i would expect all of the sandvaginated area.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 19:26:26; mats: I wonder how many pieces of the eu/eurozone will be part of the caliphate in a few decades
mircea_popescu: spain, france, the south of england, "italy" whatever that means, western austria, southwestern germany etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403793 << arabs do not care for the cold. russia exists as a going concern principally for this reason.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 19:28:23; BingoBoingo: Probably the nordic ones mostly.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 20:01:25; jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex proxy 23.235.235.113 has time skew -4 hours, causing havoc
mircea_popescu: in other news, why is princessnell bombing inept douches off medium in here ?
mircea_popescu: if you're going to link whores, please a) no traps ; b) pictures not words and c) tits on display at a minimum.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403836 << well in a world where gawker pays one stick of bubblegum per piece, it's a hard argument to make.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 21:33:21; princessnell: i say it's worth more
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403847 << tmsr. not only spending on deficit, but also saving millions on other people's [mostly mental] deficits.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 21:51:21; ben_vulpes: "If we add up the value of the hours spent on it, we’re in the tens, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars." << not me, not anyone here. lookee at how much we've saved by not giving any credence at all to the brain damage!
jurov: mircea_popescu: it gets weirder, that proxy reports unix time normally, and humanreadable time 4 hrs off
jurov: in statjson output
mircea_popescu: jurov human readable time is a mess sadly.
mircea_popescu: this is of course not my fault. and fixing it is not trivial. and so on.
mircea_popescu: but... working on it.
mircea_popescu: https://i.imgur.com/3Gg3Y2q.jpg <<< i wish to donate a hundred lashes, where can i ?
punkman: what's so special about human-readable
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403870 << hm why does she sound like you touched a nerve ?!
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 22:10:15; princessnell: wow! :D congrats, that is amazing! i am so happy for you
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403885 << "we haven't learned anything from the previous beating and pledge to continue as before. because we really enjoy taking beatings."
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 22:15:37; asciilifeform: '1). Make a decision to let go of the past technical issues. We don’t care whose fault it was, who broke protocol, who harmed who’s feelings or egos, who lied or who was technically or morally wrong. The time has come to move on. We can start fresh and work together to prevent or react to any new human issues.' << ahahahah pure gold
mircea_popescu: i dunno, i suppose some do. the wall ain't going anywhere, so by all means.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404011 << i thought your kid was a yearling ?! he speaks ?
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:27:46; *: pete_dushenski is very guilty of giving voice and personality to le petit monsieur. it's too fun not to!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404020 << in fairness it was because i left the lasrt character out.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:30:17; shinohai: ^happend to mp last night
ben_vulpes: mine just started responding to ripping paper in half
ben_vulpes: turn one thing into two, merriment ensues
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that's a pretty good trick! give him spaghetti too
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:37:47; jurov: dunno why is kako so paranoid. next thing, submit too fast, get banned.
ben_vulpes: hah i'll definitely try that
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:39:35; kakobrekla: noone complained, yet.
ben_vulpes: i think he really enjoys the ripping noise too
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404119 << claims to be fine nickel (?) mesh in plastic film
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:55:37; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403778 << wtf bs is that.
asciilifeform: i'm about to buy various, test...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the finer the mesh, the worse the result.
mircea_popescu: and if you're going to do fine, who the fuck does nickel.
asciilifeform: depends on freq
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404121 << yes apparently there is this whole subculture of rf 'allergy' crackpots
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:56:02; mircea_popescu: lcd screen recalibrating quantum magnets for less gasoline consumption, same place ?
mircea_popescu: i don't have the curves in my head, but i am still willing to bet nickel does not shine in any range
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo, fine mesh.
mircea_popescu: 0.1g platinum is cheaper than whatever that retails for.
asciilifeform: woven in film?!
mircea_popescu: i imagine they print it.
mircea_popescu: but yes. because nothing is as ductile as gold/platinum/lead etc.
mircea_popescu: 1g of gold is what, 1 sq m by hand ?
asciilifeform: then perforate with laser...
asciilifeform: fuck mesh
mircea_popescu: actually, i would expect either indium or thalium would be what you would want on the basis of em considerations.
asciilifeform: but i wanna measure the extant crud
mircea_popescu: please do.
asciilifeform: waiwut??!
asciilifeform: thallium??!
mircea_popescu: because immense excitation cross-section ?
mircea_popescu: esp to low energy electrons
asciilifeform: conductivity is normally what you want in a shield
mircea_popescu: i would expect, on the basis of sheer guesswork, that if you want to make fine mesh shields as opposed to a traditional, 2mm thick cage, that you would want various quantum and other side effects ratgher than straight conductivity.
mircea_popescu: because of the fucking impedance in thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor.
mircea_popescu: and for stuff like electron drift velocity, thallium is up there with fucking mercury.
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:05:30; jurov: pussyfreak: pussy or gtfo
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
mircea_popescu: in very scary fucking news that will scar you for the rest of the day, so don't look! http://45.media.tumblr.com/3df51e27518fa30b33762a529d9fdad1/tumblr_noajqyXfXP1uu92gho1_400.gif
mod6: bath time!
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1404026 << yes. << somehow mis-remembered this.
assbot: Logged on 12-02-2016 23:31:12; mod6: no way really?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404091 << btw how's mining mod6 ? :D << lol
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 00:11:21; mod6: !v assbot:mod6.rate.diana_coman.2:5a1bd608ade6adb03df95a4528b07b48d47bab34333756c8107d76ff18cd2def
mircea_popescu: you know they found the actual mining skill
mod6: really?
mircea_popescu: i paid 2mn for one.
mod6: i miss playing. i gotta get back in there one of these times.
mircea_popescu: diana has them
mod6: cool
mircea_popescu: it's not too bad with the foxybot, can go the whole day on 10 minute's attention
mod6: that's great actually. i should just set-it-and-forget-it.
mircea_popescu: i do a lot of that. set it to do say 30 suspect ointments, it's good for 20 hours
assbot: GitHub - kristinpaget/GuardBunny: Files for GuardBunny, an RFID shield presented at Shmoocon 2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGt )
assbot: Be Free Little Guardbunny [ShmooCon 2016] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PIqgGv )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74417 @ 0.00055969 = 41.6505 BTC [-] {2}
mod6: mircea_popescu: ya, i should just load up on tools and threads, etc. and just let it rip.
mod6: ;;seen mike_c
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 33 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
mod6: !rated mike_c
assbot: You rated user mike_c on 10-Aug-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Met IRL, runs btcalpha.com, built new WoT tool.
mod6 rubs eyes
mod6: 2014?
mod6: i thought it was last year
mod6: ooh maybe the original rating date is preseved.
mod6: did mod6 lose a whole year
mod6: ?
mod6: naw, it was 2015. lucky.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. this box keeps shutting down bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: anyone ever saw a process get ended after you disconnect a nohup session ?!
mircea_popescu: pos doesn't have tmux either
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu is using `nohup $cmd &`, yes?
mircea_popescu: what's & again ?
mod6: i typically only do `&', w/o nohup
ben_vulpes: fork to bg
mircea_popescu: uh isn't that spurious if explicit nohum ?
punkman: is daemon mode advised against?
mircea_popescu: heh mkay
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: why does nohup not protect against terminal exiting without the fork?
mircea_popescu: "blocks" : 382218, other one's almopst there
mircea_popescu: ;;height
gribble: Error: "height" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: doesn't actually detach from tty unless you fork
mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats
asciilifeform: ask it, not me
gribble: Current Blocks: 398169 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 998 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
mircea_popescu: "errors" : "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range \nCInv::GetCommand() : type=3 unknown type \nbitcoin in ProcessMessage() \n" << heh heh
asciilifeform: waitasec
asciilifeform: is this without malleus ?
mircea_popescu: this is 99996
ben_vulpes: not answering the q lol
asciilifeform: that's a v ver
asciilifeform: not trb
asciilifeform: which ~trb~ mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: what'd you expect me to say ?
mod6: must be the one he built with build-bitcoind-V99996.sh or whatever.
asciilifeform: i mean, you pressed it, no ?
ben_vulpes: 0 or 1
ben_vulpes: aha whatever fires v must present a head to press
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu is running bitcoinds with mystery patchlists!
ben_vulpes: heresy
mircea_popescu: if you wish i can provide a file hash
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, i control the wot.
ben_vulpes: tis your skin not mine
mod6: which btw, we need to update that build script.
mircea_popescu: that's all i wish to do.
mircea_popescu: and it WILL be your skin if this process gets me in trouble.
mircea_popescu: you've been warned, not only throughout, but at the outset. THIS is what it is all for.
ben_vulpes: and i warn you back to not run bitcoinds pressed of v whose heads you do not know!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is using the knobs as they were intended to be used.
mircea_popescu: fully expect - ratings if your presence in my .wot dir causes my bitcoin to die.
asciilifeform: but, possibly embarrassingly, i don't presently know if mod6's v actually climbs the latest branches of all present keys
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also remember that there are ~two~ knobs, meant to be used in unison - wot and patches.
asciilifeform: as presently extant, you can't pile on the latter unthinkingly and drive solely using former.
mircea_popescu: jus' making a point.
asciilifeform: and i wanted to make another, re: how driving solely with wot at present time is rather like steering a bus using solely the brake pedal.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "build-bitcoind-v99996.sh" is the sole knob mircea_popescu cares to use
asciilifeform: and here i find that i don't even have a copy of this.
asciilifeform: so i cannot say whether he pressed with malleus.
ben_vulpes: nor i
mircea_popescu: if not for plurality... we'd be driving buses with no brake pedals whatsoever
mircea_popescu: next stop, power range.
mircea_popescu: spew out a file hash i'll give you mine.
mod6: when he built it, it ~should~ have included your original malleus patch, see: ./v.pl p verbose rotor/TEST2 asciilifeform_malleus_mikehearnificarum.vpatch
mod6: however, that's been out of date since I re-ground those recent patches.
mod6: but again, shouldn't effect Mr. P. since he did all of this before the regrind.
mircea_popescu: mod6 seeing how the node is almost caught up i'd say it's 3 weeks old
ben_vulpes: such a very stateful ritual, this
mod6: ok
ben_vulpes: my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it
mircea_popescu: trust people, not code.
mircea_popescu: i couldn't care less what goes into it.
ben_vulpes: mod6's scripts are code!
mod6: mircea_popescu: what's your sha512 of main.cpp?
ben_vulpes: yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them!
mircea_popescu: a happy man is one who never went into the sausage factory.
punkman: people will submit patches that include crossbone banner
mircea_popescu: mod6 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58 main.cpp
mircea_popescu: and ftr i misspelled it mod.cpp first
mod6: heheh
mircea_popescu: punkman and they won't make it in a foundation release.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: file hash alone does not specify which patch to which you pressed.
mod6: huh. for some reason, it didn apply that patch
mircea_popescu: well now! isn't that interesting
mod6: ben_vulpes: yeah, pretty close
mod6: diff -uNr a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp
mod6: --- a/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 92038390413f77b55e19439738e87c21bd5b2313dc6edad78bcc8bf722dde82623a31a56a87b0182e75e6824fc709dc216fb9cb159b49a16e212e3a5ded93f58
mod6: +++ b/bitcoin/src/main.cpp 02ccc72e42939509fc180861db7ffec50563a84869f35671fcf720090f9782674edcc89c4174175691566fac7277f1ebe0f50253d1e4a995eb960f5b43cce2a3
ben_vulpes: i send only warnings.
mircea_popescu: 578324747b453bb61a2e1d626508f0b344704980605c79fc994b51aa86c5f437b937ab89d994dcccca4e45877b1f2c763c3e06b8c613eeae263409ee3178a42a trinque.sh
mircea_popescu: turns out it was built from trinque sh
mod6: ah, where can I find the source for that?
ben_vulpes: hahaha
ben_vulpes: and what head praytell does that press
mircea_popescu: i should know what i run ???
mod6: :D
mircea_popescu: ROTOR_HASH=e232c07238feb16ce055211fba68ed283c47753a8716681ac47c869c21936f48768f
trinque: uh, what's trinque.sh
trinque: lol
trinque: !s trinque.sh
assbot: 0 results for 'trinque.sh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trinque.sh
assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1l0Hyqh )
mircea_popescu: here we go.
ben_vulpes: one of the downsides of the kalash is its wide cone of bullet distribution
assbot: Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge - ScienceAlert ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLLEOg )
ben_vulpes off to shabbos and very shortly
mircea_popescu: isn't this what that kid killed himself for ?
mircea_popescu: mod6 should i dpaste this script ?
mod6: yeah please.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it was
ben_vulpes: punkman: and why is she even hosting them herself?
punkman: because badass russian chick? dunno
punkman: "when you search for a paper, Sci-Hub tries to immediately download it from fellow pirate database LibGen. If that doesn't work, Sci-Hub is able to bypass journal paywalls thanks to a range of access keys that have been donated by anonymous academics"
asciilifeform: elsevier has been musting die for a very long time.
ben_vulpes: musting die lol
ben_vulpes: anyways enjoy archaeologying mircea_popescu's build process y'all
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> yes mod6's scripts are excellent, use them! << hey now!
ben_vulpes: what what
mod6: haha.
mod6: they could be better, sorry.
ben_vulpes: they accomplish their purpose! last time i read through them they even checked hashes and performed all sorts of niceties.
mircea_popescu: stop hating ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: but the road to automated reactor controls is paved with perl scripts, if you'll forgive a language jab mod6
mod6: awe, poor perl. has no friends.
mircea_popescu: just users.
ben_vulpes: LIKE Y'R ORDINARY STREET HOOOO-ER
ben_vulpes stops hating, off to drink and be loud with family
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asciilifeform: a few hectares of this, and you have (slow...) fpga...
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> my mind recoils at the notion of running a reference implementation compiled without knowing the patchlist going into it << im not sure how to reconsile this. either you don't know what you're doing and you use a fully automated build script, or you do, and you build by hand.
mod6: its a choose your own adventure really.
mod6: basically, either you accept the preposed in toto, or you do not and piece-meal it together by which people you trust and do not, and which patches you want or do not.
mod6: i think this is how it is, and should be.
kakobrekla: fully automated build script < code as spec
assbot: dpaste: 3NRHYG4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoKxpC )
mod6 looks
mod6: ah yes: ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
asciilifeform: yeah this is pre-malleus.
asciilifeform: settled.
mod6: ^
mircea_popescu: it's really 99997
asciilifeform: i have nfi, maybe mircea_popescu wanted this.
mircea_popescu: older node.
mircea_popescu: AT THE TIME is what we had.
mod6: ah, ok.. but don't run the 99996 yet -- the script needs a 1 line update iirc.
mircea_popescu: heh. check him out.
mod6: danielpbarron, got plans this weekend?
mod6: :D
mircea_popescu: anyway, this lets us know 99997 version syncs.
mircea_popescu: it's within hours of catching up.
mod6: true Mr. P.
mod6: thanks
mircea_popescu: anyway. there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with using a release.
mircea_popescu: the responsibility rests ENTIRELY with the coders.
mod6: i agree.
mircea_popescu: there's no squirming out from under this rock, like there's no squirming out from under any other rock.
mircea_popescu: all the rocks are, deliberately, pointedly and with no recourse placed on your ballsacks.
mircea_popescu: this is not an accident. and this will never change.
mircea_popescu: read the fucking code, don't write it.
mircea_popescu: rebase until your finger bleed. i don't give a shit how hard it is, or how you think there's more productive uses of your time.
mircea_popescu: and etfc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu can go on about how disgusting a cow is, but at the end of the day his icecream still comes out of one...
asciilifeform: or does it.
mircea_popescu: the entire fucking exercise is precisely and strictly ABOUT taking all the sexy out of programming. ALL OF IT. forevert.
asciilifeform: now this, yes.
punkman: apparently a lot of implementations have "EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range" errors
asciilifeform: it is why v.
asciilifeform: punkman: locale
mircea_popescu: punkman yeah it's when unexpected bs comes from peer.
asciilifeform: ah yes.
assbot: JordanLeePeershares / NuBit / Pull request #240: Fix for EXCEPTION: St12out_of_range — Bitbucket ... ( http://bit.ly/1XoL6Q9 )
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's not unexpected or alarming.
mircea_popescu: and to round up : the other one, testing a (slightly older) 99996 keeps dying like a little bitch, so it's behind
mircea_popescu: schedule.
asciilifeform: is that the one where mircea_popescu nohup'd without & ?
mircea_popescu: i nohup'd without & on all systems
mircea_popescu: the others don't mind.
asciilifeform: 'cause they never get sighup ?!
mircea_popescu: they do.
mircea_popescu: do not expect me to know how unix runs. the authors gave up.
mircea_popescu: and i sure as fuck ain't doing basic science for the sake of science on it.
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, THAT machine igot a sighup 10 minutes ago, and bitcoind is still running on it. so... wtf.)
danielpbarron: mod6> danielpbarron, got plans this weekend? << Eulora auction yo! Other than that, I don't really have "weekends" as I don't have a 9 to 5 kinda schedule
mod6: ah, alright.
danielpbarron: what is it you want me to test?
mircea_popescu: lol i'm so curious what that stuff will go for.
mod6: well, we need to make a 1 line change to the 99996 build script, and then update the wiki. BUT on the other hand we're gonna need 99995 soon anyway, as soon as some people beat up on my latest patch for V.
danielpbarron: i have plenty of stuff to do so hopefully i won't get too carried away on the bidding
mod6: Cause then I'm gonna release V v99995, which will require another script update.
mod6: i guess I should make the script change and get it deedbotted.
mod6: then move on and there will just be a new version soon.
mod6: sorry :(
asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day
asciilifeform: i tried this on day 1, but never figured out how to get idiot gnumake to recurse
punkman: there was polarbeard's thing
asciilifeform: not speaking of that horror
asciilifeform: but of the builder
mod6: did you look at trinques makefiles?
asciilifeform: not iirc
mod6: i was working on those lastnight, getting some stuff updated.
asciilifeform: did they sanely avoid building anything that was already built ?
asciilifeform: because that's why makefile
mod6: i just haven't quite figured out how im gonna fit it all together since they need to be Vified as well. at lesat, I think they do...
mod6: asciilifeform: umm. not sure.
mod6: it basically breaks up my build script into makefiles. its worth your time to take a look i think.
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asciilifeform: this is no good.
mod6: getting the makefiles squared away, is the last remaining task (other than regression testing) that stands in the way of v054
mod6: no good?
mod6: how can it be better?
asciilifeform: 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER
asciilifeform: also mixing v press and makefile build is imho The Wrong Thing.
mod6: ah, ok. well, we're planning on working through these things. any other things?
asciilifeform: pressing and building are philosophically distinct acts.
asciilifeform: or how about where it curl's from oracle.com ?
asciilifeform: or where it has 5 makefiles (why ?)
mod6: yeah, well, that is one of the things. we need to figure out where to pull the stuff from -- and again if locally, then we need to totally alter buildroot.
asciilifeform: i remember now that i saw this before, and mercifully forgot.
mod6: which everyone has said, needs to happen.
mod6: ok so you're not sold on these 'eh.
mod6: alright, well, we'll have to come up with something.
trinque: given you proposed recursive makefiles, and are now bitching that there are many makefiles, what is your new proposal?
mod6: im starting to think that maybe we dont worry about that for this release.
mod6: instead we just have a "release" version of the build script like everyone has been using and then push the "better build aparatus" into the post release development push.
asciilifeform: trinque: originally i wanted recursive so i could dive into, e.g., boost, openssl, and have a single makefile for the whole orchestra
asciilifeform: (it would invoke the heathen ones in the deps and intelligently proceed, or not, given success/failure)
trinque: as for make clean, cd build; make clean
asciilifeform: clean should never erase ~permanent~ components
trinque: we are both aware of what a trivial change that is.
asciilifeform: at any rate, mod6 imho should not wait for this
mod6: im trying to avoid getting hit over the head with "but it uses curl!" -- but maybe i like the beatings?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu likes, iirc, building on same box as his thing ~runs~ on, that is, a net-connected one
asciilifeform: i - don't
asciilifeform: and if a script insists on curling, i won't use it.
trinque: so you put the deps in the proper place, and nothing is downloaded
asciilifeform: so it needs a fallback where the deps are not curled if already found
asciilifeform: then works.
asciilifeform: and under no circumstances must, e.g., 'boost', be built twice.
asciilifeform: do we have this ?
trinque: yep, albeit "boost is done" is currently "there is a folder here which it shat"
trinque: we've been overlooking a great many failed targets since day one
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mod6: mircea_popescu: you need any help, or did you get that issue with it dying sorted?
trinque: death to dns
mod6: anyway, so again, my short term goal here is to get V stablized so hopefully no further changes will be needed once i pt out v99995
trinque: I quite liked the v-tronic hosts file idea
mod6: I did too, but we need more mirrors imho
mod6: these are the new root servers.
asciilifeform: and where, exactly, is one to get a new host file, if all of the mirrors vanish overnight ?
mod6: where do you get A records if all of the root/gtld servers vanish?
asciilifeform: nobody would even notice if they were to vanish - caches have it all
mod6: until caches expire, ya
asciilifeform: imho global 'zooko' names are a broken concept.
asciilifeform: route to keys.
asciilifeform: alias - locally.
mod6: so once the new V is out, i don't see why at that point we don't submit the release vpatch.
mod6: then we can update the build script for v99995 where it presses up through `v054-RELEASE.vpatch' or something.
mod6: (this is without the makefiles), with the makefiles, we'll have to wait on the release vpatch until the makefiles are vified.
mod6: my apologies, kinda thinking out loud here.
mod6: ok testing the one line change to v99996 build script.
mod6: has everyone who is going to test this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000210.html actually finished? maybe i don't need to wait another week.
assbot: [BTC-dev] V [v99995] Beta 2 - Call For Testers! ... ( http://bit.ly/1oqqg7a )
mod6: heard reports from gernika, and shinohai
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform wonders if the buildscript could become a makefile one day << afaik this was broadly tyhe plan, at least at first
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, it's been raining like the end of the world in buenos aires, i fully expect the downtown to be under water in the morning.
asciilifeform: meh, no faces
mod6: mircea_popescu: hows the power situation been?
mircea_popescu: i'd guess about 100mm fallen so far, 5ish per minute or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: mod6 sorta usian, i guess.
mod6: dicy 'eh. haha
mod6: ok so that one line update built fine... good to know.
asciilifeform: in unrel. nyooz, saunders mac lane's 'algebra' is nifty
asciilifeform: even if a bit of a backbreaker.
asciilifeform: mega-recommend.
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 03:50:29; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'make clean' should not delete motherfucking tarballs of deps THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE EVER <<< make clean should wipe the whole thing, that's the idea
asciilifeform: or jusr rm -rf ~
mircea_popescu: massive lightning strike bout quarter mile away, took my inverter clean off.
asciilifeform: the ~sane~ behaviour for a make is to kill only that which it itself birthed.
asciilifeform: what was it plugged into
kakobrekla: you have a dc to ac inverter?
mircea_popescu: i think it must be
mircea_popescu: generator makes dc right ?
kakobrekla: what generator
asciilifeform: the diesel sort? not unless it was made in 1900 or so
mircea_popescu: well whatever, the thing with the dials.
mircea_popescu: no mains current in this part of town since midday, kako
kakobrekla: move to africa
mircea_popescu: but ARGENTINA NO ES UN PAIS POBRE!
asciilifeform: why would lightning zap a standalone box sans mains wiring ?
mircea_popescu: solo es que todo deja de funccionar si lluvia
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, it must've induced something.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the src and itself also, prolly, yeah.
mircea_popescu: make clean is what you do when you dunno wtf went wrong.
asciilifeform: also before vdiffing
mircea_popescu: i guess this raises the need for an intermediate flag
asciilifeform: as in buildroot
mircea_popescu: yeah huh.
danielpbarron: !up blockchain_enthu
blockchain_enthu: Thanks danielpbarron
danielpbarron: no problem, who are you?
blockchain_enthu: I am a non-tech kind guy trying to understand block chain and bit coins. I find block chain to be more interesting than bit coin
blockchain_enthu: so i thought i'll join an IRC channels to see what kind of things people discuss
danielpbarron: what do you mean, block chain more interesting? How are the two separate?
blockchain_enthu: yes, those two are not separate.
danielpbarron: but the implication is that there could exist a block chain without the money part
blockchain_enthu: but the underlying principle of bitcoin is block-chain which can have many other applications
blockchain_enthu: precisely
danielpbarron: like what?
blockchain_enthu: umm.. like executing real estate transactions?
blockchain_enthu: i am still trying to explore more
blockchain_enthu: what are your thoughts on this?
danielpbarron: i'm trying to find the part in the log where this idea was proposed and shot down
danielpbarron: aha found it!
blockchain_enthu: is there a way for me to read that part ?
assbot: Logged on 16-10-2015 13:20:52; mircea_popescu: seriously, you're going to invent a blockchain way to make losers not be beaten up by their betters ? because why.
danielpbarron: i think that pretty well sums it up
danielpbarron: that and every other half-baked idea to "do x but this time with blockchain technowlogeez"
blockchain_enthu: LOL! Well a lot of ideas seem ridiculous before somebody manages to pull it off
danielpbarron: the key word there is 'somebody' and right now you ain't that
danielpbarron: !gettrust blockchain_enthu
assbot: blockchain_enthu is not registered in WoT.
blockchain_enthu: LOL! i'm not saying i'm going to do it. i'm just exploring the possibility
blockchain_enthu: and trying to get a sense of how far along have people thought over this
danielpbarron: do you have a bitcoin node?
blockchain_enthu: like a said non-tech guy
danielpbarron: do you know the private key to any addresses with unspent outputs?
blockchain_enthu: Nope, again.
mircea_popescu: how about you read the log instead.
danielpbarron: here's another part of the log that seems relevant to your station >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1402512 << and funny thing is I'm currently watching The Matrix as we speak
assbot: Logged on 10-02-2016 21:10:11; mircea_popescu: these delusioanl urchins are so used to seeing themselves as a sort of neo-in-matrix that it just doesn't compute.
kakobrekla: read log? sounds too much like actual work.
blockchain_enthu: Well I am going through the log
blockchain_enthu: when i said real-estate transactions, i meant buying/selling of real-estate.
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