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mircea_popescu: <jurov> is any other heavy machinery driven that way? <<< virtually all robots over 100kgf
mircea_popescu: lmao r/buttcoin still chasing the "bitcoin is notrly valuable" dragon ?
BingoBoingo: Oh yeah
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assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Plan Will Always Fail Catastrophically ... ( http://bit.ly/1SfFl4Y )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00054972 = 7.7785 BTC [-]
mircea_popescu: Diederik Stapel, noted Dutch psychologist, was recently outed for massive scientific fraud, i.e. he made up all his studies. "All of them?" Does it matter?
mircea_popescu: The scientific community is aghast at the extent of his fraud-- fraud on "Astonishing Scale", writes Gretchen Vogel in the same issue of Science; and Bruce Alberts was so furious he wrote an "Editorial Expression Of Concern." Ooooooooohhh. People's Elbow.
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1l1k9o8 )
mircea_popescu: prior to that he was making up meaningless feel-good libertard studies about how littered train stations make ugly 6.0-6.5 dutch babes sit closer to black men.
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311985 << thank you, that would be quite excellent
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 15:57:35; mike_c: ;;later tell adlai yeah, I don't see why not. I'll take a look at posting it somewhere.
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assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:20:30; assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:05:08; mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a
assbot: 4 results for 'query.bitcoin-assets.com' - #bitcoin-assets search
mircea_popescu: oh oh the ticker thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41450 @ 0.0005488 = 22.7478 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Hmm, isn't it weird how just as soon as women entered the workforce it became completely impossible for a family to achieve the American dream without the woman in the workforce? Turns out that part of the drive to get women into the workforce was driven by... the workforce owners. Get it? Whenever you don't understand geopolitics just ask yourself where the lowest labor costs are, and wait for the
mircea_popescu: headlines to read "human rights issues.""
BingoBoingo: Thought of the night: Why hasn't big pharma marketed a product that tacks a long ester onto an opiod molecule to create depot product for treating cancer pain?
BingoBoingo: Would frustrate the hell outta junkies too. Just leave ampules of the stuff around, because you can't just shoot oil into a vein.
assbot: AP: Hundreds of officers lose licenses over sex misconduct - seattlepi.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hko6sA )
BingoBoingo: More lulz potential: Switching out the roids in the police station locker room with Depot Heroin.
BingoBoingo: Shit could single handedly move the US healthcare system from triple to quadruple bankruptcy. Hospital beds occupied by junkies that OD'd shooting up Depot heroin into their glutes and need a narcan drip for a month and a half.
BingoBoingo: Detox to piss clean begins to take the better part of a yer.
trinque: for adlai's last deed, the transaction that made it into the blockchain is not the one for which I have the transaction ID
trinque: this is strange, isn't it?
trinque: adlai: can you think of a reason why I'd have a different transaction ID for your last deed?
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adlai: !s malleability
assbot: 66 results for 'malleability' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malleability
adlai: 0conf txids aren't actually a thing
trinque: bother
assbot: joinmarket/blockchaininterface.py at master · chris-belcher/joinmarket · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqRrIP )
adlai: plenty of idiocy in joinmarket, but this is one thing it gets correct
deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.
deedbot-: accepted: 1
adlai: trinque: actually the more helpful line in the linked file is #L349, although the most correctest test would be sighash-aware
deedbot-: [Qntra] Busybox Drops systemd Support - http://qntra.net/2015/11/busybox-drops-systemd-support/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Blinders. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/11/01/blinders/
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 After 5 hours ... failed here: http://dpaste.com/29XT657 I think I wrote down somewhere how to fix it tho xD
assbot: dpaste: 29XT657 ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKseq5 )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: shinohai: there was likely some previous error compiling openssl
shinohai: jurov: I found it, twas in the logs. Only happens on arm but twas easy fix.
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assbot: Obfuscating "Hello world!" - Ben Kurtovic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mqe0rv )
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gabriel_laddel: ;; later tell pete_dushenski regarding your most recent contravex photo - WOW - hot out of 10.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
fluffypony: he looks like the Jew from Quantico
fluffypony: that one
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shinohai: fluffypony: This is who pete_dushenski really resembles in that photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/34797058@N04/3567834986
assbot: The Hangover - Stu Price | Flickr - Photo Sharing! ... ( http://bit.ly/1RlMboM )
fluffypony: hah hah yes!
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mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't think that is stable.\
mircea_popescu: <trinque> this is strange, isn't it? << not at all. bitcoin still malleable. also, transaction ids ARE MEANINGLESS
mircea_popescu: o check it out busybox did the right thing ?
mircea_popescu: also, the field data suggests that contrary to everyone's worst nightmares, systemd will actually eventually fail, like the rest of similar attempts.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-10-2015#1312215 << in the short-term, b+p skool is more of a 'best practises' approach than a facility proper, but in the long-term, why not ?
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 03:15:59; v_diddy: i don't think pete's actually interested in /building/ the skoolarium
pete_dushenski: not like carnegie set out to make concert halls in nyc
pete_dushenski: the prairie schools built around here a century ago are often left derelict for lack of funding. i could see revamping one.
pete_dushenski: http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/pcimages/PC/013/web/PC013548.jpg << actual photograph with boys wearing suits and caps, fillies in white skirts. and electricity poles !
pete_dushenski: or telephone... ?
mircea_popescu: that's phone
pete_dushenski: aha. i suppose the nodules/bulbs on the horizontals give it away
pete_dushenski needs to read more about such advanced tech
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1312049 << quick, translate that article before she steals your soul !
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 17:41:37; gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310924 << i definitely have. sadly, i showed it to some chick some time ago. now she's telling me she's pregnant :(
assbot: Pumpkins cause climate change, Energy Department says - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1OhaC98 )
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes felicitations fellow papa !
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: saw the best carved pumpkin this year : little pumpkin head wedged into a larger smashed out pumpkin head. sort of an 'alien' thing. very wd.
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pete_dushenski: goddam link thieves.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-10-2015#1312211 << all entrepreneurs with net worth >$10 mn are viable candidates
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 03:14:57; BingoBoingo: v_diddy: Mr. Combs is not a candidate really to lecture at Ben & Pete's Skoolarium
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 10:00:10; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 00:01:12; pete_dushenski: speaking of costumes, i've pulled off the most magical trio for the family for this halloween : papa is the beplaided farmer, mama the milky moo-cow, baby the curious calf !
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 00:02:01; vulpes_a_hopital: pete_dushenski is the joke there that the girl's the one working?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 00:02:08; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you took your wife out on the town dressed as a cow ?
pete_dushenski: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/10/29/4112292/university-president-posed-for.html << fuck the bitchy little students, fuck their apologist profs, and fuck the lot of them. it's motherfucking halloween.
assbot: Lexington, KY local and state news by the Lexington Herald-Leader | Kentucky.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrBkux )
pete_dushenski: if you've lost your sense of humour and can't stop being a victim whore FOR ONE DAY A YEAR then you deserve to rot in a very fiery and exquisitely painful circle of hell.
fluffypony: OMG A SOMBRERO
fluffypony is immediately offended
pete_dushenski: i know this is just supposed to be 'normal soviet retardation' but holy jeez does this get my goat
pete_dushenski: fluffypony: let's start a petition to ban the sale of all hats. baseball hats are racist too y'know. especially the flat-brimmed ones.
pete_dushenski: because only rappers and pro athletes (read: blacks) wear them.
mircea_popescu: so what, they're gonna be issued through the first apostolical church instead of amazon now ?
pete_dushenski: sort of the same thing
assbot: How to tell if you’re middle class. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrC1Em )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The UN’s Weirdest Crimes: 380 Pounds of Weed, Child Porn, and a Chainsaw on a Plane | VICE News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrDSJc )
shinohai: Aside from the CP he coulda been a great guy
assbot: Bombardier reportedly looking for federal help after Quebec's $1B bailout - Montreal - CBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WrE9fc )
shinohai decides to rent the 1980 classic Airplane! so as to no longer think of bad things on aeroplanes this weekend.
pete_dushenski: shinohai: i tried watching airplane (1980) recently, maybe a month or two ago, but i had to turn it off after about 20 minutes, so unbearable was the lethargic pace and hollow 'humour'
pete_dushenski: i wanted to like it because 'movie from when u.s. still had proper enemies' but it was waaay too painful
pete_dushenski: it made me hesitant to re-watch naked gun, which i adored as a kid.
shinohai: For some reason I am a huge fan of Leslie Nielson
shinohai: And of corny humor in general.
pete_dushenski: factoid o
pete_dushenski: factoid o' the day : leslie nielson and i went to the same high school
pete_dushenski: i learned this after watching all his movies as a kid, and laughing my innocent little head off, i'm sure
pete_dushenski: huh nielson died in 2010...
pete_dushenski: shinohai: pauly shore fan as well ?
shinohai: Sho 'nuff
shinohai: Sadly there are very few entertainers of note any more in American cinema.
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mod6: <+shinohai> jurov: I found it, twas in the logs. Only happens on arm but twas easy fix << were you able to get openssl/boost/bdb built statically then for ARM 32bit?
mod6: (iirc it was a 32bit ARM right?)
shinohai: mod6: yeah 32-bit but still havin static issues, it isn't compiling against ourlibs
shinohai: I had a doctored makefile on my old lappy, forgot to make a copy xD
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shinohai: Maybe open ssl borked on me
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mod6: hmm. so yeah, the key will be to get these deps compiled statically. i might be wrong, but alf's pogo related things might have some sample configurations for getting these statically built on ARM.
mod6: i do have a method (basically all automated) for one to build a static bitcoind via V inside of rotor for a x86 i386/i686 env, but not for ARM :/
shinohai: mod6: nw part of the journey ... but dammit imma figure this out if it kills me.
mod6: :] thanks for your efforts shinohai
shinohai: btw it compiled on that old Ubuntu server I always test on too ... same as deb smooth as butter
mod6: oh the rotor+V script for x86_64?
shinohai: yeah
mod6: excellent!
shinohai: So hanbot should be able to push a button
mod6: it needs a bit more clean up over the next week or so, then will have something a bit more finalized. glad that the mechinisms worked though.
shinohai: yeah on x86_64 no complaints outside of the keyserver hiccups
mod6: werd.
mod6: thanks again for your help.
shinohai: No problem, sitting on my ass doing nothing gets me no closer to having tiny bitcoind
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mod6: lot of stuff to do here in November, should be exciting.
shinohai: I swear my New Year's resolution is to move further away from the Debian crutch.
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shinohai: The amount of sexual engineering that went into that gif boggles the mind mircea_popescu
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mircea_popescu: doesn't it.
v_diddy: BingoBoingo: what, not even a hat tip for the link?
v_diddy: i got a good chuckle out of it anyways.
v_diddy: i nominate punkman's arsetechnica link for qntra treatment as well
pete_dushenski: o.O ben you're permanently v_diddy now ?
assbot: Linux-Kernel Archive: Re: [GIT] Networking ... ( http://bit.ly/1XIJMIy )
pete_dushenski: "Christ people. This is just sh*t. The conflict I get is due to stupid new gcc header file crap. But what makes me upset is that the crap is for completely bogus reasons."
deedbot-: [Trilema] BitBet (S.BBET) October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/bitbet-sbbet-october-2015-statement/
pete_dushenski: "The code seems *designed* to use that new "overflow_usub()" code. It seems to be an excuse to use that function. And it's a f*cking bad excuse for that braindamage."
BingoBoingo: <v_diddy> BingoBoingo: what, not even a hat tip for the link? << ty, just ack in the article is extra words, dilutional
assbot: Why NASA Needs a Programmer Fluent In 60-Year-Old Languages ... ( http://bit.ly/1XIKh5q )
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shinohai: @ pete_dushenski do you celebrate Festivus ?
pete_dushenski: more of a chrismukkah kind of guy
pete_dushenski: and you ?
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shinohai: Festivus is every year for me, so I can celebrate a holiday and not be called a scrooge.
shinohai: Plus the airing of grievances is one of the best parts.
pete_dushenski: a day in the life of a jewish mother
pete_dushenski: of teh stereotypical sort
shinohai: Selah.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054663 = 4.5917 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 323.21, Best ask: 323.65, Bid-ask spread: 0.44000, Last trade: 323.63, 24 hour volume: 23822.4533847, 24 hour low: 309.43, 24 hour high: 326.5, 24 hour vwap: None
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00054664 = 12.846 BTC [+]
punkman: "two new research papers found that the virus can live in a male survivor's semen for up to nine months, and that one man passed it to his sexual partner months after he was released from the Ebola ward."
jurov: !t m f.mpif
assbot: [MPEX:F.MPIF] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / / ( shares, BTC), 30D: 0.00021379 / 0.00021379 / 0.00021379 (250 shares, 0.05 BTC)
v_diddy: ;;later tell pete_dusschenski eh, not likely
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !s /rotor/TEST2/ourlibs/lib/libboost_system.a: error adding symbols: File format not recognized
assbot: 0 results for '/rotor/TEST2/ourlibs/lib/libboost_system.a: error adding symbols: File format not recognized' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%2Frotor%2FTEST2%2Fourlibs%2Flib%2Flibboost_system.a%3A+error+adding+symbols%3A+File+format+not+recognized
assbot: lapidary ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLoMA )
assbot: Hot Broiler ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qjo5ud )
jurov: ^"lapidary" made me curious if mircea_popescu does pity sex, too :D
mircea_popescu: i dun think anybody does pity sex outside of livresque context.
mircea_popescu: outside of the perceived need of an author to make characters fuck that wouldn't, there's no reason for it.
mircea_popescu: "Really. Give me *one* reason why it was written in that idiotic way
mircea_popescu: with two different conditionals, and a shiny new nonstandard function
mircea_popescu: that wants particular compiler support to generate even half-way sane
mircea_popescu: code, and even then generates worse code? A shiny function that we
mircea_popescu: have never ever needed anywhere else, and that is just
mircea_popescu: compiler-masturbation."
mircea_popescu: i find it impossible not to love linus at first sight.
mircea_popescu: in vaguely related news,
mircea_popescu: "Wolf Dad" wrote a book called Beat Them Into Peking University.
mircea_popescu: Xiao, 47, describes himself as the emperor of his family. As such, he's laid down an extraordinary system of rules for his children.
mircea_popescu: "I have more than a thousand rules: specific detailed rules about how to hold your chopsticks and your bowl, how to pick up food, how to hold a cup, how to sleep, how to cover yourself with a quilt," Xiao says. "If you don't follow the rules, then I must beat you."
deedbot-: accepted: 1
v_diddy: jurov: ty!
deedbot-: accepted: 1
v_diddy: and do forgive my letting you dangle on the pop culture references :P
jurov: hah hah
mod6: yeah, thanks jurov
jurov: but would be cool if puff diddy came here :D
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v_diddy: we're still waiting for the entertainment industry liason i think
v_diddy: ;;seen pgp
gribble: pgp was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 37 weeks, 3 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <pgp> wrong chan
assbot: Cunnilingus tongue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKLZha )
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v_diddy: !up Cristina
v_diddy: hullo, mrs kirchner
mircea_popescu: i thought that's CFdK
shinohai: I present ... a real live human female. Cristina
Cristina: hi all
Cristina: hola hola a todos ?
Cristina: hola hola a todos
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w )
shinohai: I'm working up to that lol
mircea_popescu: well so what do you do Cristina ?
Cristina: I have been invited another user, someone trying to learn more things
shinohai: Cristina el te esta preguntando de que dedicas?
Cristina: I am a student of veterinary medicine,
mircea_popescu: hablas espanol en preferencia de ingles ?
Cristina: yo hablo español
Cristina: lo entiendes tambien??
v_diddy: un poco
Cristina: mas me gusta el español jeje
mircea_popescu: y de donde eres ?
Cristina: españa madrid
mircea_popescu: shinohai i thought you were in the states, what is this, ltr ?
shinohai: Nah mircea_popescu I thought I'd go over to cryptopia and see if I could talk sense to the Spanish-speakers there.
v_diddy: bien hecho, shinohai
punkman: shinohai: what's a cryptopia?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25897 @ 0.00053979 = 13.9789 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: punkman: some new turdcoin exchange. I just heard there were some Spanish-speakers there, so I needed the practice.
v_diddy: Cristina: puedes usar GPG?
Cristina: eso que es?
v_diddy: my spanish has rotted on the vine :(
v_diddy: como se dice "software" en espanol
v_diddy: "software" de crypto personal
Cristina: no uso ninguno...
v_diddy: privado mensaje, identificacion personal...
v_diddy: util mejor aqui
v_diddy: necessitas para "voce" aqui
Cristina: y que software es? donde lo consigo
v_diddy: windows? macintosh? linux?
Cristina: windows 8.1
v_diddy: ai pobre
assbot: Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKOjEN )
Cristina: descargando
v_diddy: quieres uno llave privado y llave publico
v_diddy hopes he's making sense
assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKOvE2 )
Cristina: instalando...
v_diddy: !up ascii_field
v_diddy: poor man
v_diddy: ¿trabajes hoy, ascii_field?
v_diddy: pobre
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313254 << eh, he's the original 'apolitical' jwz
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 21:29:00; mircea_popescu: i find it impossible not to love linus at first sight.
Cristina: ya lo he instalado, y he creado una privi key
v_diddy: Cristina: 4096-bit llave largo, y caducidad nunca
v_diddy: privi key lol gracias
Cristina: ya esta creada... ahora que tengo que hacer?
v_diddy: !s first steps
assbot: 146 results for 'first steps' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=first+steps
mircea_popescu: ascii_field how you mean ?
shinohai: Cristina: eso es lo que reviso tomas: https://www.gnupg.org/gph/es/manual.html
assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1J73Z7o )
mircea_popescu: also for the people interested in economics : i'm tinkering out the s.mg report, should be interesting.
shinohai: Para explicar bien bien
Cristina: ya tengo la clave.. creada
shinohai: !up Cristina
v_diddy: shinohai: consider translating the first steps wiki article?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313213 << lulzy, i'd easily handle this but nobody asked me
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 20:25:13; pete_dushenski: http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/a17991/voyager-1-voyager-2-retiring-engineer/ << job opening for interested fortraners
ascii_field: (not in that wot)
shinohai: v_diddy might be a good idea, thanx
ascii_field: 64k is a fuckton of space, too
ascii_field: esp for the period
v_diddy: ascii_field: your IP is leaking.
v_diddy: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: v_diddy: unsurprising
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313343 << on many occasions he said, in effect, 'fuck politics i just want things to work'
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 22:27:14; mircea_popescu: ascii_field how you mean ?
mircea_popescu: so what if he said.
mircea_popescu: also, shoot 'em an email, what's it cost.
ascii_field: aha who doesn't love job postings with 100 million and one fishwrap-derps bloating the mailbox
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313177 << i did it ALL already !! does nobody read the logz??
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 18:16:41; mod6: hmm. so yeah, the key will be to get these deps compiled statically. i might be wrong, but alf's pogo related things might have some sample configurations for getting these statically built on ARM.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72397 @ 0.00053978 = 39.0785 BTC [-] {3}
ascii_field: got a generic write-in-your-cpu-arch builder thing
ascii_field: if anyone needs this.
assbot: I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQMd6w )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3203 @ 0.0005369 = 1.7197 BTC [-]
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313057 << afaik it never worked to begin with (not even in the miserable sense that systemd 'worked' elsewhere)
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 09:08:23; deedbot-: [Qntra] Busybox Drops systemd Support - http://qntra.net/2015/11/busybox-drops-systemd-support/
mircea_popescu: ascii_field you forget who these readers are.
ascii_field: busybox is typically used in small machines, e.g., routers, our 'pogo', etc.
mircea_popescu: they're too shy to say hi whiole the chick's there at the bar slipping herself roofies.
ascii_field seriously considers this, as he may soon be out of work.
shinohai steals ascii_field 's build notes for pogo...
ascii_field would like to try to avoid straight usg gigs, however, from past experience
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313190 << it is 'tiny' only in the disk footprint. leaks like a sieve (see a year's worth of log...)
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 18:32:19; shinohai: No problem, sitting on my ass doing nothing gets me no closer to having tiny bitcoind
shinohai: I saw that part about the memory issues, was hoping I might stumble on solutions.
Cristina: mircea_popescu sigue la oferta de las fotos de los pechos?
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 21:30:42; mircea_popescu: "I have more than a thousand rules: specific detailed rules about how to hold your chopsticks and your bowl, how to pick up food, how to hold a cup, how to sleep, how to cover yourself with a quilt," Xiao says. "If you don't follow the rules, then I must beat you."
ascii_field: shinohai: before you can even begin to think about this, must read the pertinent logz
mircea_popescu: Cristina a, si.
Cristina: mircea_popescu acepto la oferta en el articulo...
shinohai pops popcorn.
mircea_popescu: escribi 533ae6
ascii_field: shinohai: my most recent find is that tx does not appear to ever get freed. nor can it, because it appears in multiple data structures, some of which are never cleaned up.
ascii_field: interdependent pile of steaming shit.
Cristina: +mircea_popescu lo que NO eseño es la cara
ascii_field: por que no la cara ?
mircea_popescu: Cristina sabes que "Has previously posted nudie selfshots on the web. You will be required to prove this by supplying a link." va decir ?
shinohai: Oh she's got pics ...
Cristina: <+ascii_field> por que guardo un poco mi identidad
shinohai: Asi es el punto de #bitcoin-assets Cristina, aprender guardar tu identidad!
mircea_popescu: pechos sin caras no valen nada, Cristina
Cristina: <+mircea_popescu> entonces no lo acepto :P
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313062 << waitasec he actually named the boy this ?
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 10:00:10; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You dressed Pantagruel as a bull?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313073 << snore, what, rest of the world didn't go to school and never heard of church numerals..?
mircea_popescu: !rate Cristina 1 por la seguridad de identidad!
assbot: Cristina is not registered in WoT.
shinohai: trying to explain the necessary steps. I have no clue what to tell a Windows user!
mircea_popescu: since she got her key anyway, doesn't matter so much, just have it reg'd with assbot
mircea_popescu: !up Cristina
Cristina: !register A2E1 0795 8CF9 F320 EFB0 5297 F597 2074 BD8D 68DF
assbot: That does not seem to be a valid fingerprint.
mircea_popescu: no spaces
Cristina: !register A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF. This may take a few moments.
assbot: No valid OpenPGP data found on pgp.mit.edu.
mircea_popescu: lol seems about right
shinohai: Cristina: seguro que lo mandaste al servidor?
Cristina: <+shinohai> me dice que esta correcto enviado
shinohai: Dejame ver, peor el servidor esta lento?
mircea_popescu: prolly best give it half an hour.
shinohai: entonces escuchaste Cristina ahora a fumar la buena
shinohai: y en medio hora regrescamos
deedbot-: [Trilema] MiniGame (S.MG), October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-october-2015-statement/
mircea_popescu: bandanna too clean error.
Cristina: !register A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: A2E107958CF9F320EFB05297F5972074BD8D68DF. This may take a few moments.
assbot: Key BD8D68DF / "Cristina <tuamigo021@hotmail.com>" successfully imported.
assbot: Registration successful.
Cristina: ya me he registrado... todo bien?
shinohai: si pues
Cristina: estoy dentro?
mircea_popescu: !rate Cristina 1 por la seguridad de identidad!
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/a41e9d86653f1a83
shinohai: Ahora si estas dentro
mircea_popescu: ahahaha "estas adentro ?" "si" "ahhh!"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00054479 = 10.2421 BTC [+] {2}
Cristina: para registrar mi nick a qui que tengo que hacer?
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.Cristina.1:23f49ced16613be321cf98dc6007532ec5f0e92c58ef46a99f281db468af67c1
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for Cristina with note: por la seguridad de identidad!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10252 @ 0.0005369 = 5.5043 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00054489 = 12.0966 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: !up Cristina
shinohai: forgot 2 rate
shinohai: !rate Cristina 1 Una joya entre los idiotas
assbot: Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/875068be73f4e7b5
Cristina: !rate jejej no es para tanto
assbot: jejej is not registered in WoT.
shinohai: !v assbot:shinohai.rate.Cristina.1:7fc9c515d2a6fc58ff6c97e8f357f8e0a78afa74008e0f7aae2cfd49ce2b1087
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for Cristina with note: Una joya entre los idiotas
Cristina: que estan haciendo??
shinohai: Aqui tomando copas
Cristina: y las normas de chat... hay algunas puedo decir de todo?
Cristina: enviar enlaces.. con ref??
Cristina slaps shinohai around a bit with a large fishbot
assbot: #bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1k32ZX6 )
shinohai: hey had to restart lappy, don't b troutin me
shinohai: I can get behind that, since I struck out on #b-a entertainment tonight.
Cristina: que tema tenemos hoy por a qui?? algo para que aprenda
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2011/12/28/the-psychology-of-quitting/ << penelope trunk thinks she might be dying from a nut sized buise on her hip.
assbot: The psychology of quitting | Penelope Trunk Careers ... ( http://bit.ly/1k33Mrc )
mircea_popescu: Cristina lee lols logs tambien.
mircea_popescu: lols logs jhaha
Cristina: donde los leo?
assbot: #bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1k33Uab )
Cristina: ok le echare un vistazo
shinohai: MAs que un vistazo Cristina, leer los logs es requerido.
Cristina: <+shinohai> ya mañana que es algo tarde... a parte que estaba en ello
shinohai: Claro que no de una vez pues
assbot: Celso Pina, Control Machete- Cumbia Sobre El Rio - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnqSD7 )
punkman: ha, vex had this in the logs
mircea_popescu: "ATHENS, Greece (AP) -- Greek disability groups expressed anger Monday at a government decision to expand a list of state-recognized disability categories to include pedophiles, exhibitionists and kleptomaniacs.
mircea_popescu: The National Confederation of Disabled People called the action "incomprehensible," and said pedophiles are now awarded a higher government disability pay than some people who have received organ transplants."
mircea_popescu: well... it's either a disability or it isn't. what, you hate the lame and worship the deaf so you put people without legs in prison and give tax money to the deaf ? pick a stand lol.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.0005369 = 5.8522 BTC [-] {2}
phf: huh, libgpg-error and gpgme come with common lisp bindings (and only cl) in the standard distribution..
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2250 @ 0.00054489 = 1.226 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16227 @ 0.00054263 = 8.8053 BTC [-] {2}
BingoBoingo: ty pete_dushenski
deedbot-: [Qntra] 000webhost Penetrated: 13 Million Plaintext Passwords Compromised - http://qntra.net/2015/11/000webhost-penetrated-13-million-plaintext-passwords-compromised/
mircea_popescu: reading http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/02/what_would_you_do_if_your_fian_1.html i realise nothing in the past decade makes me as happy as biel's fizzling.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: What Would You Do If Your Fiance Gave You a Ring That Wasn't Good Enough? ... ( http://bit.ly/1NjKtoD )
v_diddy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313353 << take things, do not wait for them to be given.
assbot: Logged on 01-11-2015 22:28:58; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-11-2015#1313213 << lulzy, i'd easily handle this but nobody asked me
mircea_popescu: stupid bitch won't put out ? thinks the world is the set of seventh heaven ?
mircea_popescu: fuck her, she gets to be angelina jolie v2.0
phf: BingoBoingo: whatever happened to slimgur?
deedbot-: accepted: 1
BingoBoingo: phf: Domain change, booted from hosting because Lardbarges uploaded CP and reported them to their then host
v_diddy: lol
ben_vulpes: that's entirely what you get for working with people outside of your wot.
assbot: Online Shared Accounts | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGBlI )
ben_vulpes: wronggggg link
assbot: Grindwork Thinking Server | Grindwork Corporation ... ( http://bit.ly/1RnGC9f )
phf: oh, i was wondering what was up with all those underage pictures popping up. seemed like an personal army attack
mircea_popescu: imgur obviously doesn't get kicked off because "cp" because "we have no control what the internet does". but slimgur does get booted.
ben_vulpes: > requires flash
mircea_popescu: please more net neutrality kthx
deedbot-: [cascadian hacker] Links 2015-10-31 Sat: self-driving cars, short fiction, Nigerian lolz, ship photos, Volkswagen's embroilment in ship engine number fudging, planes landing on cargo ships, the Palestinian Authority and more! - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/11/01_links-2015-10-31-sat-self-driving-cars-short-fiction-nigerian-lolz-ship-photos-volkswagens-embroilment-in-ship-engine-number-fudging-planes-land
mircea_popescu: this title is big enough!
mircea_popescu goes to read all sopping wet
mircea_popescu: 404 Not Found
mircea_popescu: nginx/1.7.6
mircea_popescu: now i feel like a girl foreals.
punkman: perhaps bot should skip the title
ben_vulpes: tonight we fuzz deedbot-!
ben_vulpes: lol mp cannae finda de cocka
mircea_popescu: lol footnote 3 ftw.
mircea_popescu: i find references to cannae very hurtful and unnecessary for my roman republican heritage.
mircea_popescu: TOO MANY GOOD PEOPLE DIED THERE
mircea_popescu: ahaha that pic was in teh logs was it. great pic.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it's cited appropriately even
ben_vulpes: albeit in a footnote
ben_vulpes: wait biel is jolie 2.0? i thought jolie remained relevant far longer for some reason.
mircea_popescu: she did ?
mircea_popescu: she's moved into a zsa zsa gabor phase before being 35. clinging to headlines with stuipid shit like "i took the fat out of my tits and replaced it with oil to support BP and Shell!"
trinque: ben_vulpes | tonight we fuzz deedbot-! << escuse
phf: he last and only good role was in the hackers, but that carried her pretty far
ben_vulpes: i don't actually know anything about pop culture, my parents only let me watch Oregon Public Broadcasting.
ben_vulpes: by the time i might have given a shit, i was already interested in other things.
BingoBoingo: Oh, Jolie I think finally completely had herself surgically desexed.
phf: our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example
mircea_popescu: phf i really can't watch anything with/about computers
mircea_popescu: i'd rather watch namibian television reports about wall street
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00054524 = 5.1253 BTC [+] {2}
phf: mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games.
mircea_popescu: there's also a bunch of chicks that are kinda worth fucking that will be old before i get around to them
mircea_popescu: i'd rather rewatch lorna than look at "hollywood does floppy disks"
mircea_popescu: (for the people who weren't hipsters in the 60s, russ meyer is this guy doing footage of chicks with absurdly big natural tits. nothing happens.)
phf: give me that old time religion
mircea_popescu: i find the pastoral images soothing
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes re your interests in low brow apple "status goods" etc, see the excellent tlp http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/11/luxury_branding_the_future_lea.html
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Luxury Branding The Future Leaders Of The World ... ( http://bit.ly/20miBFG )
ben_vulpes: my WHAT?!
mircea_popescu: hey, you're discussing it!
mircea_popescu: "What is actually going on is that Apple is attempting to signal to the derps who willingly buy their fashion goods that actual rich people also buy those things." etc
mircea_popescu: yes actual rich people also want to buy these things. to wear at the hackathon, to play the role of the billionaire who hangs around and chats with the derps, without having to actually spend any time on like... you know, irc.
ben_vulpes: i'm not interested in it, it's interested in me.
mircea_popescu: same differential.
ben_vulpes: ah hm.
mircea_popescu: anyway im just sayin', he speaks as to the theme, and well.
mircea_popescu: "Not even the girls will condescend to it, and if you can't sell fashion goods to the girls, you can't sell the goods." << fun fact, ties are a purchase mostly controlled by women. JUST LIKE HIGH HEELS,
mircea_popescu: i might be the only male alive dictating high heel usage as to type and so forth.
mircea_popescu: this patriarchy embedded in society by older womenz.
ben_vulpes: who uh
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but anyway, your intuition is broadly correct, the one thing that can make your shop flourish / ensure its survival is heavy duty investment in IP. the real thing, the sort of IP that can't be intellectually-protected.
ben_vulpes: doesn't buy their own ties?
mircea_popescu: nobody buys their own ties. nobody even WEARS ties without permission. "honey does this go ?"
ben_vulpes: "oui, ça marche"
ben_vulpes: who are these people
ben_vulpes: men i mean
mircea_popescu: give someone a tie see if they wear it.
ben_vulpes: with suits and ties and didn't do the matching originally and daily selection selection on an ongoing basis?
mircea_popescu: (hint : if they do they're gay and think you'd make a great gf)
ben_vulpes: well yes.
ben_vulpes: but to return to an earlier fork, what intuition are you talking about? something in that post?
mircea_popescu: wellyesley
ben_vulpes: oh oh oh
ben_vulpes: "institutional quality memory"
ben_vulpes: quite.
mircea_popescu: it is ip, right and proper.
BingoBoingo: I buy my own ties. It's why half of them are bolo ties.
ben_vulpes: tis a vaporous and difficult to grasp sort of thing. embedded in the people, codified where possible.
mod6: ive never been given a tie. i buy all of mine.
ben_vulpes: lol that kid in the patek ad with the safety vest
ben_vulpes: rip out all the branding and there's your class giveaway.
ben_vulpes: "honey, put a vest on the kid" only ever has 2 answers
ben_vulpes: "okay dear" and "what did he forget how to swim?"
BingoBoingo: Phun Phact, Putin is Patek's greatest brand ambassador
mircea_popescu: another fun fact : i never met anyone who actually wore those things
mircea_popescu: people who actually like/can afford those things have all sorts of obscure preferences, people who don't buy rollexes on credit.
mircea_popescu: pp is like a sort of tgi fridays or w/e that thing it's called, a fastrestaurantfood.
ben_vulpes: Fast Casual
mod6: that place punches me in the colon
mircea_popescu: "That's the history of America: come here for the freedom; stay for the cash; and if things get hairy say only God can judge you."
BingoBoingo: When I worked at a watch stand I learned all sorts of lower end brand preferences. White trash likes fossil. More monied white trash like Tag Heuer, or Invicta if they got the collecting compulsion
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: did you actually read the "i spent thousands learning to be a wealth manager" piece? she touches on signaling.
mircea_popescu: an random dumb broad, i recall. no i didn't read it.
BingoBoingo: Black girls like Guess, Black guys like Nike or esoteric bling brands from more obscure shops. People buy Seiko almost exclusively as gifts...
ben_vulpes: academitard i belive is the local lingo
ben_vulpes: "you, the viewer, become the Dad, with the aspirational images laid out for you: a beautiful and proper wife with culture and delicacy, taking care of your perfect daughter, while you're in the shower scrubbing the scent of concubinage off you. " wahahaha
mircea_popescu: if only.
mircea_popescu: i am of the firm belief that an adult male with wealth and a monofambly is a liability to both the wife and the children.
mircea_popescu: the mistress is a very important surogate for the functional (ie, 3-4 wives) arrangement.
mircea_popescu: next thing you know wife gets too confident of her position and the kid's covered in helmets.
ben_vulpes: not terrifically uncommon knowledge in "the coven". i think "sex at dawn" is their tract on the topic.
mircea_popescu: what's the coven ?
ben_vulpes: a smallish group of girls around here. not an official name or thing by any stretch of the imagination.
ben_vulpes: affectionate appellation
ben_vulpes: heh okay i'll bite is 9 1/2 weeks any good?
mircea_popescu: nmah it's miserable.
mircea_popescu: i watched it because of tlp's idiotic fixation on basinger and an insistence on "white heels". a) she wears no heels at all ; b) she is as hot as my doorman.
mircea_popescu: worst fucking film ever, the only thing it informs us is, just how fucktardedly primitive our parents were, sexually speaking.
mircea_popescu: "o really pops, she like, kisses your wee wee that once, and the skin was even retracted ? you go tiger!"
mod6: haha
BingoBoingo: Seriously, at least "Three Headed Shark Attack" has tits
ben_vulpes: <mod6> that place punches me in the colon << i lol'd
mod6: place makes me seriously ill.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Pedophilia Is Normal, Because Otherwise It's Abnormal ... ( http://bit.ly/1ShE2SY )
mircea_popescu: so the truth of the matter is that yes, sexual interest in early teen females is normal and common, and perhaps not ~necessarily~ harmful to the females in question [in those conditions where communication is sparse and pop density is under 1 per sq mile - which pointedly DOES NOT mean NYC or akron, ohio!], whereas sexual interest in bosy the same age is NOT common, or normal. but pathological. period.
mircea_popescu: this yields the serious problem that... when does gayness ripen into no longer pathological ? and why ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20614 @ 0.00054533 = 11.2414 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: these two groups, the people who want to fuck 14 yo girls, and the people who do not want faggotry to be mental illness, will come to blows.
phf: re watches, мы время знаем / в деревне без больших сует / желудок - верный наш брегет
ben_vulpes: forgive my thickness, but their interests are not aligned?
phf: but of course breguet had to choose the other quote for their ads, this one sends a mixed message
ben_vulpes is still working through the luxury branding article
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80144 @ 0.00054696 = 43.8356 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10356 @ 0.00054848 = 5.6801 BTC [+]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, because try as one might, the genders may be interchangeable but the sexes - not.
mircea_popescu: i'd fucking run it, if i were running breguet.
mircea_popescu: "this watch or back to the village. choose."
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:37:59; phf: mircea_popescu: i think there are two movies about computers that are kind of worth watching, because they manage to broadly capture the period, the hackers and war games.
mircea_popescu: is broadly intended to mean "in the manner of a slightly-derogatory old style word for female" ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-11-2015#1313552 << i must have watched these same tapes. except that they came from some underground (literally) rental thing in '90 or so
assbot: Logged on 02-11-2015 03:34:54; phf: our moscow neighbor was a burned kgb spy, who upon his return from washington in the late 80s brought with him 5 boxes of tapes, recorded from u.s. cable television, commercials and all. i remember watching the whole thing, but i wouldn't be able to recall any specifics. i'm pretty sure it had the entire american ninja there, for example
asciilifeform spoke to brother of poettering, drepper, et al, and he replied 'wouldn't it be interesting if someone built a thing where people signed code with pgp and rated one another and...'
phf: oh yeah american ninja might've been from rental, but then i have no idea what was on those tapes. the only stuff i do remember are commercials for transformers and hot wheels
phf: breguet, becase you're not a peasant are you?
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