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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56800 @ 0.00054491 = 30.9509 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56300 @ 0.0005442 = 30.6385 BTC [-] {2}
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BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: The Roosh guy on Dr. Oz. Completely unprepared for the experience, ended up the subject of the Oprah network'd 5 minutes of hate that day.
mircea_popescu: oh that's it!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Caterpillar, now THAT is a struggling Us company.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34365 @ 0.00054775 = 18.8234 BTC [+]
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311715 < because other people write stupid articles about novena?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 02:14:01; *: asciilifeform used to have some respect for huang BEFORE the whole novena thing
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00054383 = 6.961 BTC [-] {2}
vulpes_a_hopital: midwife on duty is *smoking* hot
mircea_popescu: standard of care.
vulpes_a_hopital: ;;later tell phf yeah, yeah. mostly just bitching about shithub.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143500 @ 0.00054735 = 78.5447 BTC [+] {3}
mircea_popescu: !up Chameleous
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 127197 @ 0.00055307 = 70.3488 BTC [+] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128600 @ 0.00054316 = 69.8504 BTC [-] {4}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61940 @ 0.00055595 = 34.4355 BTC [+] {3}
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104291 @ 0.00054092 = 56.4131 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: Car crash in Lincoln County leads to credit card fraud charges : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScPoHL )
BingoBoingo: "A report of a one-car accident led to charges alleging credit card fraud against two African men, the Lincoln County Sheriff's Office said Thursday."
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78100 @ 0.00054081 = 42.2373 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 329.19, vol: 41219.69506093 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 319.3, vol: 19370.63214 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 331.5, vol: 72515.67844049 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 8.77470441 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 357.146319, vol: 86717.33690000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 332.0, vol: 274.48647954 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 308.35365, vol: 164.64389138 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 340.075073782
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --eur
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency eur
gribble: Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 295.685, vol: 41924.10425949 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 292.87, vol: 485.77568 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 309.332, vol: 8.77470441 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 324.980882, vol: 86645.65900000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 297.748, vol: 13972.8568308 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 280.5, vol: 164.77689138 | Volume-weighted last average: 313.585854042
BingoBoingo: 300 Euros
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mircea_popescu: god i fucking love anchovies
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.0005422 = 32.6404 BTC [+] {3}
deedbot-: [Qntra] Billion Dollar Blimp Victim of Police Shooting - http://qntra.net/2015/10/billion-dollar-blimp-victim-of-police-shooting/
assbot: Fugitive Kern County deputy captured after daring escape - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1WlmH1g )
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Can't even make this shit up
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94900 @ 0.00053956 = 51.2042 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: RAW VIDEO: KCSO video shows Deputy Edward Tucker escape - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Wln77P )
BingoBoingo: punkman: ty
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109200 @ 0.00054461 = 59.4714 BTC [+] {3}
BingoBoingo: At least not Mayo Gendered
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Nature Of The Grift ... ( http://bit.ly/1XDA0Hx )
mircea_popescu: exact explanation of the thing.
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assbot: Fanduel to Debut Betting on Drunk ED Patients’ Alcohol Levels | GomerBlog ... ( http://bit.ly/20fiw6s )
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punkman: http://i.imgur.com/EheNhZU.png very believable CNY volume
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82594 @ 0.00054078 = 44.6652 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Judge finds Austin officer immune from manslaughter charge : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1M11Mqf )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311812 << pray tell, what existence does the thing have AT ALL outside of generating the idiot articles ?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 05:09:30; punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311715 < because other people write stupid articles about novena?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 00:06:01; asciilifeform: whole thing is an elaborate exercise in delusionism
asciilifeform: not even to mention the fact that calling it a 'laptop' is like calling a sack of potatoes with a fuckhole drilled therein a 'woman'...
asciilifeform: 'novena' is almost a textbook case of slimeball delusionist attempts to nudge the definition of 'open'
asciilifeform: i can almost hear the reply of the author and his fans, 'what have you created, useless eater?!', 'this ~is~ what the word open now means!', etc
asciilifeform: 'only a terrorist would demand the full docs for the fpga or a full netlist for the arm!'
asciilifeform: novena represents in my mind everything that is most loathesome re: the so-called 'maker' subculture.
asciilifeform: which is concerned almost entirely with drilling fuckholes in sacks of potatoes and calling it harem-building.
asciilifeform: how goes it, adlai ?
adlai: interestingly
adlai: dunno, same ol same ol. best of times, worst of times, etc.
asciilifeform: still driving tanks?
adlai never drove a *tank*
asciilifeform: tanquettes ? (or what do you call'em over there)
asciilifeform: 'i rode a tank, held a general's rank, while the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank...' (tm) (r)
adlai: phun phact... that song was supposedly inspired by mick jagger's girlfriend handing him her well-worn copy of
adlai: !rated asciilifeform
assbot: You rated user asciilifeform on 21-Sep-2015, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: pукописи не горят.
asciilifeform: copy of what
adlai: master&margarita
asciilifeform did not know this.
adlai: no offense, but despite all your babblings about how your sorceror's apprentice must speak russian, the moment when i realized i've got to learn russian only came after finishing that book
asciilifeform: hey, some never realize.
adlai: o/
adlai: ;;isup s.b-a.link
gribble: s.b-a.link is up
adlai: hm
mike_c: works from here
adlai pebkahd\
jurov: adlai: logs work? if not, you've got banned
kakobrekla: search doesnt have ban hammer afaik
kakobrekla: its mthreats thing, different server.
punkman: asciilifeform: guy wanted to make an arm gadget, people showed up, said "shut up and kickstart our monies". the textbook case of delusionism is that Purism thing.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80300 @ 0.00053956 = 43.3267 BTC [-]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21917 @ 0.00053981 = 11.831 BTC [+]
adlai: so when push comes to shove, meni's conviction is... idiocy?
assbot: The Bitcoin Drama Timeline on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HgD0jF )
adlai: (found thru combing logs, forums, etc)
adlai trying to understand the context from which arises the sentiment characterized by http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2014#920317
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 22:09:24; mircea_popescu: don't bother with the wot, i'll neg you anyway.
adlai: (context for the context-seeking: we are acquainted by virtue of meatspace proximity, no 'business' but frequent games of chess and bullshit (of the verbal variety), and i'm a little curious why his name seems on par with nefario/pirateat40 round here)
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:12:49; mike_c: well, I not only have a clue, i have the order book history :)
jurov: perhaps mats is saving mkdepth.php in database
adlai: mats isn't the one serving a public alphaseeker...
adlai would like to hope ("has come to expect"?) that in an efficient market, such data is public, or at the very least, available to the highest bidder
mike_c: i've been saving the order book every few minutes for years.
adlai: and.....?
mike_c: and what?
mike_c: maybe i missed the question
adlai: i'm curious about it, is all. kakobrekla makes q.b-a publicly available through his kind soul, or to track which time periods interest people, or something
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty, I'll see what I can do with it
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 322.49, vol: 42157.79001188 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 309.6, vol: 22463.9324 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 323.18, vol: 79149.86865019 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 6.79625245 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 339.419682, vol: 96581.10810000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 319.56096, vol: 327.17989832 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 309.456, vol: 165.56034113 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 328.290832739
assbot: BitBet - Bitcoin over $326 before November :: 0.44 B (14%) on Yes, 2.59 B (86%) on No | closed 15 hours 2 minutes ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1HgHlDt )
kakobrekla: jew manipulation
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86772 @ 0.00054671 = 47.4391 BTC [+] {3}
adlai spent last night explaining to a fresh bitcoiner how satoshi was more jew than jap
adlai: guy didn't even realize it was a sudonim!
adlai: (this is what happens when you read dead-tree kierkegaard instead of live-tree logs)
adlai: mike_c: for the minimization of miscommunication, the question === "i can haz?"
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 158750 @ 0.00054662 = 86.7759 BTC [-] {5}
adlai: lol, lies. scalpl just sold, that was a market buy.
adlai must onwards, 'see you round the clogs'
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54478 @ 0.00054169 = 29.5102 BTC [-] {3}
mircea_popescu: <adlai> so when push comes to shove, meni's conviction is... idiocy? << people wanna be things. and they imagine the way to be things is like in the movies.
mircea_popescu: the results are indistinguishable from that.
mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 324.06, Best ask: 324.33, Bid-ask spread: 0.27000, Last trade: 324.3, 24 hour volume: 79668.5474369, 24 hour low: 307.0, 24 hour high: 336.0, 24 hour vwap: None
mike_c: ;;later tell adlai yeah, I don't see why not. I'll take a look at posting it somewhere.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311952 << he was involved in promoting a number of scams.
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 14:43:43; adlai: (context for the context-seeking: we are acquainted by virtue of meatspace proximity, no 'business' but frequent games of chess and bullshit (of the verbal variety), and i'm a little curious why his name seems on par with nefario/pirateat40 round here)
mircea_popescu: you have to realise that back in 2011, the number of people who were calling pirate a scam was equal to the ocunt of me and my agents.
mircea_popescu: at THAT time, a community of professional bullshitters, connecting to each other through playing chess and being passive-agressive, resistant and self protecting babies, held "communioty oppinions"
mircea_popescu: a sort of person of whom you personally remind me a lot, by the way.
mircea_popescu: i beheaded / humiliated some, which is THE BASIS upon which bitcoin took a further step and became bitcoin of 2012.
mircea_popescu: they've been fighting with / running away from their reflection ever since then, because lo! idiot knows ONE coping strategy, which is, denial of reality.
mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a
jurov: soooo... my adventures with stator+cheapest chinese ssd available were stalled... not due to stator nor the ssd, but due to btrfs quotas :/
jurov: when they are turned on, btrfs-cleaner is prone to 100% hog cpu for hours
mircea_popescu: what the hell happened there ?
punkman: why btrfs btw?
jurov: i turnd them off and it started flying aka 1 block/10sec
jurov: punkman i wanted to have snapshots in case sometimes goes sour
jurov: and to see disk usage per snapshot, quotas are needed
jurov: i can live without that
mircea_popescu: so quota implementation is bugged to all shit ?
mircea_popescu: say something in #btrfs ?
jurov: yes, such turdgnomery boggles the mind. any time anyone reported that, they were like "oh just turn off COW"
jurov: but then you won't have data integrity checksums, either
mircea_popescu: you prolly should harass them in chan.
mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: "Here's an example. Say your essay question is, "describe the causes of the American Civil War." Ok, so far everything the kid knows he learned from Prentice Hall, but something inside him thinks the answer is: LABOR COSTS. Hmmm. Insightful and unexpected, let's see what he does with it. But there's not much he can do with it, there aren't many obvious resources to pursue this "feeling" he has. He does what he can.
mircea_popescu: It's not that good. C. Grade inflation gives him a B.
mircea_popescu: Meanwhile, Balboa the el ed major searches carefully in his textbook and discovers the cause was... SLAVERY. He airlifts two sentences each out of five other books, asks for an extension because his grandmother died, adds nine hundred filler words including "for all intensive purposes" and "he could care less", and then waits in the parking lot to threaten you with "but this is a history class. Why are you grading my
mircea_popescu: writing style?" He gets an A. The problem is that the first kid is strongly disincentivized from pursuing his idea, from becoming a better thinker, in very specific ways. "
mircea_popescu: "college trains libertards" simmer down, there isn't anything for kids to read that'd yield any other result!
mircea_popescu: what was written in english that'\s worth reading ? and who teaches them french [other than to read postmodern shit] ? who teaches american kids german ? who beats his 16yo every night between 11:30 and 12:00 until he's finished kritik ?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 241600 @ 0.00054916 = 132.6771 BTC [+] {2}
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311991 << did i sleep through this? i don't recall adlai sc4mz0ring anybody - he just writes commonlisp, dourly
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:02:00; mircea_popescu: a sort of person of whom you personally remind me a lot, by the way.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311994 << i also want to know: did i wake up in parallel universe now ?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:05:08; mircea_popescu: da fuck is q.b-a
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-10-2015#1311995 << what is the point of using exotic fs with therealbitcoin ?
assbot: Logged on 30-10-2015 16:08:03; jurov: soooo... my adventures with stator+cheapest chinese ssd available were stalled... not due to stator nor the ssd, but due to btrfs quotas :/
mircea_popescu: ascii_field im pretty sure he didn't scamzor anybody.
mircea_popescu: not what i said either.
ascii_field rereads
mircea_popescu: q.b-a ie bitcoin-assets.com ?
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85800 @ 0.00054046 = 46.3715 BTC [-] {6}
jurov: ascii_field: i can restore the database from snapshot instead of restarting from 0
mircea_popescu: in other news, "how are babies made ?" "the man gives a baby to the woman from inside his body" aka http://31.media.tumblr.com/1122614d76711992a4c8c8d5d44f81ba/tumblr_nf6yb42fb51tmnngto1_500.gif
jurov: already used few times
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55586 @ 0.00055188 = 30.6768 BTC [+] {2}
shinohai: Well mircea_popescu shares in eye bleach just skyrocketed.
mircea_popescu: you weren't ready for the facts of life!
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13012 @ 0.00055195 = 7.182 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73200 @ 0.00054805 = 40.1173 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: https://github.com/Microsoft/microsoft-pdb << lulzy. microshit publishes spec of their debug dump format (similar to unix 'dwarf') and,
assbot: Microsoft/microsoft-pdb · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1KKPeRY )
ascii_field: 'We'll try to keep this up to date. Just trying to help the CLANG/LLVM community get onto Windows.'
ascii_field: ^ microshit ~really~ wants to help gcc die
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113643 @ 0.00054644 = 62.0991 BTC [-] {2}
gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310923 << tbh, i'm completely oblivious of the indivual players. i don't watch the games i bet on. i often place bets on teams i haven't heard of. i trust the people doing the analyses, our incentives being aligned. i like to view is as an investment and detach myself emotionally from the games
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:31:47; pete_dushenski: may be of interest to gabrielradio^
gabrielradio: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2015#1310924 << i definitely have. sadly, i showed it to some chick some time ago. now she's telling me she's pregnant :(
assbot: Logged on 29-10-2015 17:32:14; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell gabrielradio have you seen this one ? http://trilema.com/2009/insarcinati-va
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 94664 @ 0.00054203 = 51.3107 BTC [-] {2}
punkman: https://www.twitchinstalls.com/ "A cooperative text-based horror game"
assbot: Twitch Installs Arch Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1WlUd7r )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99663 @ 0.00054204 = 54.0213 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86400 @ 0.00053916 = 46.5834 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69125 @ 0.00054674 = 37.7934 BTC [+] {4}
asciilifeform: !up ascii_field
ascii_field: vintage lulz:
ascii_field: 'Microsoft recommends that drivers be continually suspicious. Is that video decompressor taking longer than you think it should? Did the voltage just drop unexpectedly on the PCI bus? Vista has a concept it calls "tilt bits", as in the "tilt" mechanism on a pinball machine. When a driver sees something suspicious, it bumps the "tilt bits"; if too many suspicious activities happen close to each other, Vista degrades the
ascii_field: data to lower quality so you can't see the high-quality data.'
assbot: Momentary Fascinations: Vista: The World's First User-Hostile Operating System ... ( http://bit.ly/1MxUmA8 )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00054381 = 8.4291 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58518 @ 0.00054381 = 31.8227 BTC [-] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53800 @ 0.00054356 = 29.2435 BTC [-] {3}
BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there's really no point left in pretending. gcc is dead.
ascii_field: well, as dead as a thing for which there is no replacement can be
mircea_popescu: ie, dead. like one's mom.
mircea_popescu: i don't get what that tilt derpage i supposed to be
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29500 @ 0.00054432 = 16.0574 BTC [+] {4}
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: microshit demanded that drivers act as stoolies and search for signs that box is instrumented/tampered
mircea_popescu: instrumented as to hwat ?
mircea_popescu: it makes 0 sense
ascii_field: (afaik this was never taken seriously by anyone)
ascii_field: instrumented as in clocks operating atypically, bus delays, etc
ascii_field: (on account of probes of whatever kind)
mircea_popescu: but this is the opposite of what instrumented means ?
ascii_field: instrumented ineptly
ascii_field: (i.e. detectably)
ascii_field: so nothing afaik came of this, it is of historical interest.
mircea_popescu: basicallt they had a woman in tech. anonymous, as we don't know who came up with this "idea", but the cuntcheese stinks through.
mircea_popescu: it promoted awareness!
ascii_field: there are women at microshit ?!
ascii_field: or is this 'woman' in the metaphorical sense, i.e. a bloke who's been to the dulap
mircea_popescu: i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: but it's the sort of atechnical imbecillity in either case.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32200 @ 0.00054804 = 17.6469 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: xkcd: Git ... ( http://bit.ly/1SdzZad )
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00054606 = 18.2384 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00054006 = 12.1514 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00053898 = 28.7815 BTC [-] {4}
deedbot-: [Qntra] Judge Grants Local Cop Immunity as Federal Agent - http://qntra.net/2015/10/judge-grants-local-cop-immunity-as-federal-agent/
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18580 @ 0.00053883 = 10.0115 BTC [-] {2}
mircea_popescu: funny how that works.
BingoBoingo: Seriously
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00054124 = 4.8712 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29750 @ 0.00053878 = 16.0287 BTC [-]
assbot: BernCo judge tells defendant he would be someone's 'bitch' in prison, gives him probation | KOB.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GCiVJR )
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BingoBoingo: Seriously
BingoBoingo: Got probation, because too rapebait for prison
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3150 @ 0.00054341 = 1.7117 BTC [+] {2}
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32667 @ 0.00054379 = 17.764 BTC [+] {2}
BingoBoingo: !up v_diddy
BingoBoingo: So, how many came ou?
BingoBoingo: 3, 12, 16?
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 107400 @ 0.00053803 = 57.7844 BTC [-] {5}
v_diddy: just the one
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mod6: congrats v_diddy!!
jurov: what's v_diddy about?
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shinohai: ping mod6
hanbot: mazel tov v_diddy
mod6: werd up shinohai
shinohai: Got a few secs for that build?
shinohai: Or at least tell me what that crap was I had to install before the V build
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00053847 = 3.3116 BTC [+]
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13715 @ 0.00053747 = 7.3714 BTC [-]
mod6: ah, yeah. np.
mircea_popescu: !up coinaday
mircea_popescu: a congrats v_diddy
asciilifeform: congrats... v_diddy
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 01:07:30; shinohai: Or at least tell me what that crap was I had to install before the V build
shinohai: @ asciilifeform I have had a tumultuous few weeks with the HD crash, gotta rebuild V
shinohai: Actually, it has only been a week, but new gentoo and all :/
asciilifeform: rebuild??
asciilifeform: mine never needed building, it was written in python; mod6's was in perl
asciilifeform: which also just needs the interpreter
mod6: asciilifeform: so I basically built this script which builds a pressed v0.5.4 via my V implementation inside of rotor
asciilifeform: ah, neat
mod6: i got it to work 2x for me, and trinque ran it... shanohai is gonna try it out.
mod6: *shinohai
shinohai: So far, so good.
asciilifeform likes all of this with the very definite exception of the 'gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0x......'
mod6: anyway, all thats really required to ensure it works is that perl is installed, Graph::Easy is installed, and that keys are named as <wot_id>.asc in the hand created ~/.wot dir.
asciilifeform: and are we really 'gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys FAB953C4'-ing ?
mod6: yah, parts of this script are old and need to be changed. it's certainly not finalized. just trying to find out if the rest is doing what it should.
asciilifeform: and shouldn't there be a hashing of the *.tar.gz and a sig check ?
shinohai: shit
mod6: yeah, bit more stuff is required. hoping to get it wrapped up in the next few weeks here.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00053847 = 5.0885 BTC [+]
mod6: was hoping that it would be useful in the way that it could be used by testers to do a final push on functional testing for TEST2
shinohai: I know I'm behind mod6 but I am hoping by mid next week to get the Ubuntu test done I promised.
shinohai: I loathe that shit, sorry.
asciilifeform regrets that he does not have the time or energy to help
shinohai: I shouldn't kvetch. That shell is really reliable and it isn't even my box.
mod6: no worries guys.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Wisdom Of Crowds Turns Into Madness ... ( http://bit.ly/1PVxlaK )
mircea_popescu: not only do idiots converge with other idiots - but their confidence increases as they do so.
mircea_popescu: wisdom of crowds, useless to negate systematic bias, etc.
asciilifeform: mr mold had a hilarious piece on the subject, involving a game of chess played by vote
deedbot-: [Trilema] Grade Inflation, adnotated - http://trilema.com/2015/grade-inflation-adnotated/
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-10-2015#1312174 <<< can you link me to this someone if I do not find first?
assbot: Logged on 31-10-2015 02:43:51; asciilifeform: mr mold had a hilarious piece on the subject, involving a game of chess played by vote
asciilifeform: do you really need it
assbot: Unqualified Reservations: Futarchy considered retarded ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1RNRn )
v_diddy: jurov: are you familiar with Sean Combs?
BingoBoingo: Puff Daddy, then P. Diddy, then Diddy, then Sean's Combs inc.
BingoBoingo: P. Diddy also did: "On June 22, 2015, Combs was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon by the University of California, Los Angeles Police Department. He was accused of assaulting one of his son's football coaches after witnessing the coach yell at his son. His son, Justin Combs, plays football for the UCLA Bruins." << Because not even entertainment stars can spare their children the gladitorial arena
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'I have a few friends (lawyers, hedge fund managers, high powered money types generally) who make sport of hunting and humiliating UStardian college professors socially. It is a sport I would like to see extended to the middle class. Next time you're at a pretentious party and you spot some douche in the uniform of "college professor", go see if you can make him admit he's not read a whole book....' << where i
asciilifeform: went to school, professoring is just a (poorly-paying) job, and the folks who did it showed no symptoms of conceiving of it as anything else
shinohai: Possibly they stopped learning.
asciilifeform could not help but take off his hat to, e.g., the fella who put off +ev employment until he was 40 and subsisted on chickenshit wage just so that he could teach asciilifeform and other scum algorithms, number theory, etc
asciilifeform: but no, you won't find ~these~ profs at anything describable as 'pretentious party.' in fact, you won't find them at the high-end grocery shop, either.
asciilifeform: most of'em don't even have the 'job security' popularly associated with this line of work
asciilifeform: (typical u.s. state uni employs largely 'lecturers', who occupy approx. same place in the org chart as an air conditioner mechanic)
shinohai: !b 6
assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3QZ60KW.txt )
assbot: Why I am Not a Professor ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1U0MB )
asciilifeform: (all socblok countries are much alike)
shinohai: "They are in fact, the last bastions of mediaevalism left in modern society outside, perhaps, the church." <<< I like it already, because though I do not believe in God, I am somehow drawn to the church for just that reason.
asciilifeform: a tenured prof is prolly the closest thing that presently exists in the western world to ~titled nobility~
v_diddy: except that if they sleep with their students they still get canned.
v_diddy: BingoBoingo: funny, hadn't heard that one.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (typical u.s. state uni employs largely 'lecturers', who occupy approx. same place in the org chart as an air conditioner mechanic) << air conditioner mechanic comparatively makes bank compared to uni lecturer, and often professor
asciilifeform: v_diddy: 'canned' means something quite else for a tenured prof than for the rank and file.
assbot: How To Retire At Age 27 | Thought Broadcast ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1UCBX )
asciilifeform: typically, anything short of a proper felony conviction results in demotion at the most.
v_diddy: anyone game to compare http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination (via ritzy) to the odds on bitbet?
assbot: 2016 President - Republican Nomination | PredictWise ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1UBhs )
BingoBoingo: v_diddy: Mr. Combs is not a candidate really to lecture at Ben & Pete's Skoolarium
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a thing, thick jacket with applied elbow patches, certain haircut, certain glasses, laptop-like case on shoulder, open collar shirt...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no need to go far, see the case of, e.g., terry davis
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik these creatures exist only in hollywood films
v_diddy: i don't think pete's actually interested in /building/ the skoolarium
mircea_popescu: we're not discussing here random derp making 63k a year from community college, we're discussing here krugman or w/e his name is, the nyt resident finance derp
v_diddy: much less doing it to pound sense into his own spawn. could be wrong though.
mircea_popescu: !up wbdynamics
v_diddy: ;;later tell pete_dushenski ^^
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they come here on tour once in a spell. they don't wear this 'uniform' either.
mircea_popescu: also these guys don't teach anything whatsoever. they mostly try to be carrie from sex and the city, except without the sex.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: These creatures exist even at regional colleges, check "humanities department." Seems they adopted the uniform from Hollywood.
assbot: Faculty | Department Name | SIU ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1UXET )
v_diddy: anyways, four days a l'hopital, 36 hours of labor
v_diddy is taking some fucking paternity leave
mircea_popescu: not bad for a noob.
mircea_popescu: also this is what you get for not favouring birthing hips!
BingoBoingo: Dayum v_diddy so how many babbies were there?
mircea_popescu: kim could have been done in 36 minutes.
v_diddy: i like my secular christian babes
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> kim could have been done in 36 minutes. << Not anymore. Not with the new FUPA since she let herself go.
mircea_popescu: baby chews right through dat!
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: One of those fellows on the linked page actually to my knowledge draws not one, but TWO professorial salaries from the same university.
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BingoBoingo: One of the other jacket people may also be drawing a second salary now too.
phf: v_diddy: congrats!
v_diddy: ty phf et al
mircea_popescu: "That specific issue reveals an important bias and misunderstanding America has when it talks about employment. Yes, there is an issue about people wanting to work but the other issue is that the global economy is too quick and efficient to tolerate your idiotic car troubles or your imbecilic grandmother's death or your moronic lack of child care (cue Scandinavia) or, and mostly, your stupid health. The economy was a
mircea_popescu: Ferrari and now it's only a Honda, but either way, not much time for absences and no time at all for Keisha's learning curve. Keisha isn't just unemployed, she is completely unemployable. We can argue whether auto plants should pay $20/hr or $50/hr, but for certain there is no market for unskilled labor at all."
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: How To Be Mean To Your Kids ... ( http://bit.ly/1M1VEhg )
v_diddy: mod6, hanbot, mircea_popescu, asciilifeform
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on the other end, there is also precious little market for... skilled anything.
mircea_popescu: naphex's been trying to hire skilled cocksuckers ; i've been trying to hire skilled pr ; bitbet still needs skilled bookies
asciilifeform: (because what does zimbabwe need engineer for ? as far as the people's republic is concerned, he's just another shit-scooper ~but with pretensions~)
v_diddy: asciilifeform: doesn't this thread devolve into "there's precious little market for anything not supported by usg"?
mircea_popescu: there's a huge market for all sorts of skilled and a large pile of people who want skilled to mean what they want it to mean.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: was trying to speak of... actual market
mircea_popescu: which is fine, but it also means they gotta run their life as a business.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how else can it run ?
asciilifeform: i suppose there is 'as a charity' ('keisha' et al)
mircea_popescu: then stop bitching and make those warrants / shares worth something.
mircea_popescu: that's the measure of skilled in a life run as a business
v_diddy: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=18-10-2015#1301924 << dude this notion that children must of necessity be -ev is a strictly temporal and american thing
assbot: Logged on 18-10-2015 16:46:39; asciilifeform: 'this problem will not be solved for you personally, pray that your grandchildren get to live like people' <--> 'but i don't want to have children, i want to live like people ~myself~'
asciilifeform: v_diddy: they're -ev.
v_diddy: "must be rich to not send kids to school"
mircea_popescu: v_diddy how do you plan to extract value from the offspring ?
v_diddy: no, don't send kids to school. make them put up molding in the remodel. they learn something, the thing increases in value.
v_diddy: make them shred papers. they learn something, biz gets shit done.
mircea_popescu: either that or they waste the consumables, break the tools and injure themselves.
v_diddy: has yet to happen with /anyone/ i've taught to use power tools.
mircea_popescu: or in other words,
mircea_popescu: "You will observe the Keisha does not even have the enthusiasm to know what is written on the most important economic documents of her life. "I don't know, bipolar, panic attacks, whatever they put on there." She can't be bothered to handle those papers, someone else is in charge of that. How attentive will she be to the frier? McDonalds doesn't want to find out."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the thing that i was bitching about earlier is that nobody cared to find out how attentive ~i~ would be to the frier either
asciilifeform: the last time i went.
mircea_popescu: well yeah, because you'll prolly split in six weeks.
asciilifeform wonders how far along usa collapse needs to be for this assumption to fade away
mircea_popescu: prolly 20 years.
v_diddy: tending the aquaponics, banging together a new dome, romping unattended in the neighbors fields not incurring costs...
v_diddy: failure of imagination, i tell yas.
asciilifeform: v_diddy: it is a perfectly fine thing to have pets, there is no need to pretend that they're +ev
mircea_popescu: the record shall duly show.
mircea_popescu: ok this is enough of this.
mircea_popescu: da fuck, why did it miss a field.
v_diddy: how do you draw the line between pets and livestock, asciilifeform?
asciilifeform: v_diddy: livestock (if you've any business with them) are +ev
asciilifeform: milk, meat.
v_diddy: circular
asciilifeform: not circular. nominal.
v_diddy: that's not livestock it's a pet
v_diddy: how do you know?
v_diddy: it's -ev?
v_diddy: how do you know?
v_diddy: well it's a pet
asciilifeform: aha, if you keep it around for no good reason other than that you like, e.g., its fur, its purr - it is a pet.
v_diddy: or if it cooks, cleans, builds, still pet.
trinque: you'd have to come at the thing by determining the value of your time, then the amount of time and resources devoted to the kid, what the kid ends up producing of value, does this offset the development period...
trinque: but I'd be fine to consider my kid an art project
trinque: at any rate it'll be fun to see what comes of your direction v_diddy :)
asciilifeform: aha. i've yet to meet anyone who had children ~as result of calculation~
asciilifeform: (met plenty of folks who ~did not~ from same.)
v_diddy: what, you calculate the worth of a twenty lying on the street?
v_diddy: value is apparent to some people.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck is /mode #bitcoin-assets +b *!*@c-50-140-140-37.hsd1.il.comcast.net do nothing ?
v_diddy: mircea_popescu: enjoys programming i see
mircea_popescu: god damned.
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v_diddy: asciilifeform: are all financial products of knowable value?
v_diddy: 'products'
v_diddy: cfd, futures, options etc.
v_diddy: no of course not.
v_diddy: but perhaps with judicious selection and market knowledge one can over time make some money.
v_diddy: farmer who has 10 children 6 of which survive, 3 of which are useful on the farm doesn't calculate either.
mircea_popescu: this sucks.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how to apply it properly.
asciilifeform: sux like electrolux
mircea_popescu: cant set a weaker one. cool.
v_diddy: mircea_popescu: programs like american
v_diddy: does schmuck attempting to hedge against total collapse of local civilization calculate ROI of expanding meatwot?
v_diddy: worst case scenario i sell off a daughter or two to mircea_popescu
v_diddy: they'll know latin, dance ballroom, play myriad instruments, perform ito.
v_diddy: he won't be able to resist!
v_diddy: failure of imagination.
trinque chuckles as the +ev scheme is laid bare!
phf: ito?
asciilifeform wishes v_diddy only the highest quality, not-at-all-regressed-to-mean offspring
phf: regressing to mean? that's a paddling
v_diddy: and how.
v_diddy: asciilifeform doubts my ability to milk humans of v!
v_diddy: the man would also rather chew tacks than talk to humans, so we are at an impasse.
asciilifeform is fortunately not needed for any of this.
v_diddy: asciilifeform: perhaps remembers the lotto tickets at con3?
mircea_popescu: like a what!
asciilifeform: v_diddy: aha. mega-win.
v_diddy: so there
asciilifeform: v_diddy: i also remember the one other time i had a lotto ticket; when the lab where i worked in 2011 was defunded, the boss passed the hat and, as a last l0l, bought lotto tickets
v_diddy: classic!
asciilifeform: oughta have bought booze.
v_diddy: actual incentive program at a place where a rescued $wotschmuck once labored
v_diddy: lotto ticket has unknowable, but predictably bad odds.
asciilifeform: wai wat
asciilifeform: entirely knowable odds
v_diddy: really? scratch-offs are provably trustable now?
asciilifeform: ah in that sense, no.
v_diddy: mk then.
asciilifeform: but you can rely on the 0.
v_diddy: sure sure
v_diddy: and also reversion to the mean
trinque: v_diddy: wait this wasn't a place I worked with the lotto tickets was it?
trinque: I would die laughing if that became a practice after I left
v_diddy: and also that any given individual including v_diddy thinks they're not an entirely average schmuck
v_diddy: trinque: bonus pool type scam?
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