lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951191 << I can take a look elsewhere, sure. Do you have a specific preference for location?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-14 15:46:23 mircea_popescu: wouldja be willing to find something else ?
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 1mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:56.904013 UTC (8 hours 49 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 55mn from jfw outbidding jurov. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (8 hours 46 mins)
jfw: !!received-invoices
jfw: trinque, mircea_popescu: my status on settling the s.nsa auction invoice is that I haven't funded a deedbot wallet before, and the above is encrypted to a key unknown to me, so I would like confirmation from trinque that there isn't some wire crossed and when I deposit, the coin will in fact be assigned to my key.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 60mn from bvt outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (8 hours 6 mins)
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951169 <-- this is pretty neat. played with it for 10mins, doesn't look very hardcore yet, but I'm guessing it's going to get better later on.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 19:10:45 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in glorious timewastes, space arena! never was the true substance&tragedy of design as a cvasi-rational process so well captured in so little trapping! rarely will one find such a gem of a game, either! it's purrrfect.
spyked: also, from what I see, it's made by the same ppl who published infectonator. had a blast with that one (I think I also found about that from mircea_popescu?)
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951108 <-- tried that a while ago, it's quasi-impossible to connect computers not owned by the company to the network, due to all sorts of winbloze and/or spyware requirements on the machine. imo not worth wasting hardware on that; what I'll do instead is get some work-from-home hours, which would also give me almost a full day to focus on the work. this do
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-13 06:04:11 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951098 << that's silly. can't jus ttake the laptop over with you ?
spyked: esn't quite amount to 40hrs/month (10/week) though, more like 20-30, so I'll have to use the remaining time for planning/writing etc.
spyked: and I might eventually get an nvidia desktop just for gfx work anyway
spyked: ^ inb4 "here's how spyked got into playing eulora"
diana_coman: ahahah; but I had to make myself a new computer for working on the client!
spyked has an old gtx 760 at his folks' home, it's been gathering dust for years now
mircea_popescu: jfw BFB6E2FF vs http://wot.deedbot.org/0CBC05941D03FD95C3A47654AE0DF306025594B3.html ; and yet you somehow can self-voice. that is pretty bizarre. meanwhile in other glories of great inca infrastructure, http://archive.is/Ea1ZI
mircea_popescu: do you mind doing a !!v here /
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951253 << asia or latam, ideally. the current server's in moscow, so you know...
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-14 23:57:50 lobbes: http://logs.ericbenevides.com/log/trilema/2019-11-14#1951191 << I can take a look elsewhere, sure. Do you have a specific preference for location?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-11-14 15:46:23 mircea_popescu: wouldja be willing to find something else ?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-15#1951261 << yeah, how much fuck-up can fit in a 12 slot ship, given at least half is forced by module poverty. i'm currently running a wanderer to great funs, look through the later ships they get huge, 100ish slots
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-15 04:25:58 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-13#1951169 <-- this is pretty neat. played with it for 10mins, doesn't look very hardcore yet, but I'm guessing it's going to get better later on.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-15#1951263 << possibru! good taste is good taste, whadda ya want!
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-15 04:26:28 spyked: also, from what I see, it's made by the same ppl who published infectonator. had a blast with that one (I think I also found about that from mircea_popescu?)
mircea_popescu: sadly they don't have a way to record/replay battles, which is stupid, should just have a hash url for any battle.
mircea_popescu: unfortunately (for them!) i don't own them, nor are they in channel, meaning they haven't access to this font of "obvious, in retrospect" sense. which is the true drawback of "oh, we built our business around the convenience of a website" : it all but enforces missing out on pretty much everything.
mircea_popescu: the moogles managed to make an internetless fakenet for themselves, basically. nfi why they call it the internet, it's like calling their sad socialisms "democracy", anachronism abuse.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-15#1951276 <-- oh I see. and do weapons/shields also get bigger, or do you just get moar space for fiddling with combos?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-11-15 05:46:30 mircea_popescu: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-11-15#1951261 << yeah, how much fuck-up can fit in a 12 slot ship, given at least half is forced by module poverty. i'm currently running a wanderer to great funs, look through the later ships they get huge, 100ish slots
mircea_popescu: both.
mircea_popescu: look through the research tree, currently eg using a 2x2 shield, 500/100/500
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is what the jr high game of battleship should have been. because wtf, we got computers, thus therefore are better than the pen-and-paper forefathers. or else, what the fuck's all the toil been for.
diana_coman: does anyone know about/have xp with this orangewebsite provider? they are based in iceland and seem to at least 1. accept bitcoin directly 2. require only email
diana_coman: they still "partner" with all sorts, cloudflare included, for the most obvious yuck.
mircea_popescu: cloudflare is the internet equivalent of usg's fatca chantage mechanism. "partner" for protection or else get flooded. i wouldn't hold it against civillians.
mircea_popescu: anyway, petty microbusiness isp, there's a derpier BingoBoingo behind the "x tb bw for dedicated" sorta nonsense.
diana_coman: well, medium & macro businesses tend to be built around the website from what I can see; so yeah, looked at micro and kind of running out of anything to look at anyway.
mircea_popescu: basically they're a fine opportunity to pay 2x what your getting's worth for the priviledge of supporting someone else's BingoBoingo in iceland.
diana_coman: myeah, they do charge a lot for very little for sure.
mircea_popescu: i don't see the merit. either it's alligned or else it's cheap, what the hell is this "pay us a premium so we can derp". i ain't ever buying "quality" outside of republic, for the obvious reason
diana_coman: the q there was whether it's at least allignable, essentially; the reason why I took a closer look.
diana_coman: otherwise yes, at least go for cheapest and that's that; for added lulz, that pretty much ends up in moldova anyway.
mircea_popescu: now that i dunno.
diana_coman: or at best bulgaria I suppose
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, smg server's gonna be bulgaria yeah
diana_coman: heh
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, was it minigame.biz ? or .bz ?
mircea_popescu: also, do you want anything on it ? centos ? debian ? ubuntu ? lolz
mircea_popescu: (item comes with a 10GB line upgrade available ; though ima start it on a 100MB interface because seriously now.)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: it was minigame.biz latest (previously it used to be .bz)
mircea_popescu: ty
diana_coman: re OS the idea was that I'll have to install remotely the proto-cuntoo though, wasn't it?
diana_coman: otherwise the production server could be up faster on a centos 6
diana_coman: and yeah, 100MB interface should be plenty for now.
mircea_popescu: aite, centos 6 it is.
diana_coman: cool.
mircea_popescu: do you want a raid ?
mircea_popescu: 2x half tb ssds in a raid 1 mebbe ?
diana_coman: works.
diana_coman: atm I don't really see the need for anything more than that anyway; I'll set up again all the data backups anyway, ofc.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=zUlR
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=60Oz
mircea_popescu: god i fucking love reading trilema
BingoBoingo: !Xview 1072
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 1 ecu Leading Bid: 60mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (1 hours 51 mins)
BingoBoingo: !Xview 1073
auctionbot: Sell order # 1073: Lot of 4 FUCKGOATS used; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 40mn ecu Leading Bid: 40mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:40:16.614209 UTC (1 hours 51 mins)
BingoBoingo: Maybe the used ones are more collectible?
mircea_popescu: weird, huh.
trinque: jfw: will look into it this evening
diana_coman: for that matter the former smg servers contain FG too but apparently don't quite appeal.
BingoBoingo: !Xview 1064
auctionbot: Sell order # 1064: Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Opening: 1mn ecu Leading Bid: 1mn ecu Ending: 2019-11-15 21:37:54.887600 UTC (0 hours 49 mins)
BingoBoingo: Less than an hour. Where the auction snipers hiding at?
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 70mn from jfw outbidding bvt. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 47 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1066: Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 10mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:28.450290 UTC (0 hours 44 mins)
diana_coman: if it weren't such a horrible mess to get them all the way to here, ugh.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 75mn from bvt outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 41 mins)
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The Uk has one of the soviet Uruguay style customs regimes, doesn't it.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: more organised ie they just want you to pay & go to some dispatch post office; but it all adds up to the point that it's not really +ev
BingoBoingo: I don't know about more organized. Just seems more centralized if the post office handles dispatch instead of the "dispachante" cartel.
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 6mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (0 hours 23 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 80mn from jfw outbidding bvt. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 23 mins)
diana_coman: more centralized might be a better description I guess; I mean "more organised" in the sense that it's quite straightforward otherwise but possibly it's just as straightforward in Uruguay too.
BingoBoingo: Well "find a member of this class of indirectly goverment employed stooges" is straightforwards, but what follows is a bunch of ugly
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 7mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1066: Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 11mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:28.450290 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 10mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (0 hours 1 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 81mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 3 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 11mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:38:11.900525 UTC (0 hours 1 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 90mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 3 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 91mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 3 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 100mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 101mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 110mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 111mn from asciilifeform outbidding jfw. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Heard: 120mn from jfw outbidding asciilifeform. Ending: 2019-11-15 21:39:57.226390 UTC (0 hours 2 mins)
auctionbot: Sell order # 1064 has ENDED: Selling the server formerly known as UY1 no FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to diana_coman for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1065 has ENDED: Selling the server formerly used for S.MG Testing with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to asciilifeform for 11mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1066 has ENDED: Selling the server formerly used as S.MG Production with FUCKGOATS, no disks; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to asciilifeform for 11mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1067 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1068 has ENDED: Two switches used in the late Pizarro's server rack; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jfw for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1069 has ENDED: Former Pizarro RockChip Plant, no used USB drives; buyer to take possession at his own expense. Notes. Tools In photo are included for scale as the plant as configured requires more than one rack unit of height to mount. Pliers not included in plant, but screwdriver is negotiable. SOLD to asciilifeform for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1070 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1071 has ENDED: No sale. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1072 has ENDED: Lot of 18 FUCKGOATS in anti-static bags; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jfw for 120mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1073 has ENDED: Lot of 4 FUCKGOATS used; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to jurov for 40mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
auctionbot: Sell order # 1074 has ENDED: 1U chassis with two servers and one power supply, one unused 6TB WD Red 3.5" HDD; buyer to take possession at his own expense. SOLD to asciilifeform for 1mn ecu. Attn: BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: Congrats to auction winners. Invoicing will be done later today. I know how jfw and asciilifeform intend to take possession of their puchases. diana_coman and jurov please let me know how you want to receive yours.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: what are the courier options from there to the UK?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: FedEX and DHL are the two big ones outbound shippers.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: atm I'm not sure I have many alternatives tbh; mind getting an estimate from fedex/dhl for me? I found this estimate for the US in the logs, but I doubt it will be similar for crossing the ocean.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-15 14:13:44 BingoBoingo: Fedex economy came in with an estimate a bit under 300 USD given the dulap's dimensions and bathroom scale weight without packaging. Packaging at this moment is looking like it will end up being mover's foam rolls and improvised cardboard box/wrap held together with substantial tape.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: I'll try to grab some estimates this afternoon. I have a tiny suspicion DHL might beat FedEX crossing the ocean in your direction.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: thank you.
mircea_popescu: !Qcalc (40+120)/(4+18)
mircea_popescu: heh, that's gone huh.
mircea_popescu: neways, as it turns out on the autopsy table, management's plan to build perceived market value in the fuckgoats through running republican isp delivered, ~twenny bux of fuckgoats trades for about a hundy in the exact environment a nominal hundred dubaloos worth of generic hardware trades for like twenty. five this way and five that way, not half bad.
mircea_popescu: too bad it never got implemented, might've done something for all of us.
BingoBoingo: !Qcalc (40+120)/(4+18
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
BingoBoingo: !Qcalc (40+120)/(4+18)
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: 7.27272727273
mircea_popescu: not bad at all.
BingoBoingo: FUCKGOATS won value, hardware I didn't want lost value
diana_coman: FGs are also way easier to ship than servers & switches.
mircea_popescu: apparently i'm the only other party seeing value in amd processors, what can i say.
mircea_popescu: i wasn't going to buy alf made crap to piss on it & set it on fire ; but otherwise i have dozens deployed.
BingoBoingo: I see value in AMD, but with portability at a premium... I'm only interested in lugging so many cores around.
mircea_popescu: there is that
diana_coman: not sure how the "won't pay for shipping those all the way from uruguay" directly translates into no value on amd processors; not like I don't have around me mainly amd processors for that matter.
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is a good point, yes they sold for ten bux or w/e, but in small amounts inconveniently packaged
BingoBoingo: And the four cores in ye olde Qntra/DNS box are still AMD. Just... now I got more drives to throw in it.
mircea_popescu: i can see it.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Fedex wants 453 based on the unboxed dimensions, extra kilo or so thrown in. DHL wants what I initially thought was 436, but it could either be 436 or 536, more probably the later
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I suppose it will have to be Fedex unless I figure out an entirely different approach to this, huh.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Well, their estimate is ~1 week which suggest they are at least flying it rather than boating it.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: well yes, tbh I even looked and return tickets London-Montevideo are ~1k even if bought without much time in advance; so adding customs and whatever, I suspect it ends up ~same; but travel = time and uhm.
diana_coman: unless you want to visit London as I'd much more gladly pay your ticket than paying Fedex for that matter.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: The time thing kinda hits hard for either of us. At least at the price it sold for, getting exit papers for the machine will be a non-issue
diana_coman: so then Fedex it will probably be; I'll get to sign an address and all that by the end of this week I should hope.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: ty, I'll try to get it robustly packaged up for shipping by the end of next week.
diana_coman: sounds great; thank you!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, montevideo arguably worth viewing, for a week or two.
mircea_popescu: not because of what's there, but becauswe of what isn't.
mircea_popescu: gives one a good grasp of why latin america isn't a place ; and how it's perfectly possible to have millions of people not amount to a thick strand of spit.
mircea_popescu: an experience that can't be acquired through the livresque approach
BingoBoingo: This is a point. The effort that goes into covering for what isn't here instead of putting in the effort to have, also a thing that has to be seen to be understood.
mircea_popescu: playing this the other way... if you're trying to make your way out BingoBoingo , this'll take you to yurp. from london you can take thr fast train to czech republic, be there in ~a night.
mircea_popescu: free fare.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This is a point I should perhaps weigh a bit more heavily.
mircea_popescu: but yes, very much so re effort waste ; and VERY much so re how it has to be seen to be seen./
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: not like I don't want holidays even to visit waste in faraway lands; but that would mean first waiting for the gloriously communist ro embassy to finish futzing with the paperwork and issue my new passport so it can't happen right now anyway.
mircea_popescu: lol you still caught in that lulz ?!
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I don't think there's anything else that'll turn the kid away from thinking marijuana could be cool than a high season visit to Montevideo.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: well yes, because had mine too and they can't do both at the same time and etc; around europe I don't need it/care for it but to Montevideo I'd need it.
mircea_popescu: possibly, yeah. i dun even know anymore,
BingoBoingo: Uruguay nominally wants at least 90 days before the passport expires, but I imagine the airline will throw a bigger fuss than Migracciones.
mircea_popescu: now this has universally been the case.
diana_coman: eh, last time the Lithuanian border guard was totally disgusted because "it's too old!!!"
BingoBoingo: Migracciones loves white people, and they especially love European white people that speak English.
diana_coman: couldn't reject it, as it was plenty valid but...tooo old!!
mircea_popescu: wtf all these leftover jokes doing thinking they're like countries and shit.
mircea_popescu: "oh, lithuania". bitch, nobody asked you anything, move over. it's the great wasteland, you're a country like second life's a galaxy.
mircea_popescu: somehow the imaginary "right" of retards to tell you how you should fuck their daughter was struck, but supposedly the imaginary "right" of retards to "border" remains ? what the fuck, it's like going about in tudor style gedups, beyond ridiculous anachronism.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the future holds a whole boatload of jerry springer shows about border patrols.
BingoBoingo: Well, folks still costume up in anachronism to the point many of them prefer it. Kinda the whole drag/renfair/re-enactment schtick
mircea_popescu: yeah, but they generally understand it's performative art, they don't go home as if going to sleep. they go home as if waking up.
BingoBoingo: Well, the line for the drag folks seems to hae disappeared as the dreamer pods started filling...
mircea_popescu: there is that.
BingoBoingo: Not unimaginable leftover countries lean into playing Qatar hard.
mircea_popescu: sure, not surprising at all. just fucking ridiculous.
mircea_popescu: unemployable old fat failure also unsurprisingly propagates "dark horse" subjective fantasy nonsense. because what's the practical alternative ?
mircea_popescu: in other household news, coupla days ago hanbot made a pot of fasole cu ciolan (ro take on franks and bean, with smoked meat instead of whatever the fuck "franks" are anymore)
mircea_popescu: and today, i turned the remainder into ro style refried beans. which holy hell...
mircea_popescu: they came out fabulous.
hanbot echoes this verdict from beneath a sea of beans. x_x
mircea_popescu: lol