ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: data entry of btc transactions and usd transactions is complete; data entry for prepaid customers and monthly paying customers is quite nearly so. BingoBoingo: please dig through notes and break customer nrCgvFMWCqpO's october payment into one for the rockchip and another for the shell. since they have different time horizons, they need separate subscriptions. asciilifeform: next thing i do is
ben_vulpes: write the calculator of change in customer equity account for a given month (which is the biggest manual backbreaker); after that i will do depreciation on the tangibles by hand, update assets and liabilities tables.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: logs suggest we have 2 outstanding wires; i don't suppose either have cleared yet, have they?
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: please also stand up a postgres somewhere convenient for me to import and continue to work on this spreadsheet; this is ready for you to do your own data entry on fiat/btc incoming/outgoing
ben_vulpes: ah no, i missed log lines. both cleared?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878282 << still quite a bit of value in sqlthings in managing fungible programmers. in the same way that common lisp fails at making cogs, mmmapped custom $whatever can be marvelously conservative of time and space, fit entirely in head, and also be anti-cog.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 16:54 asciilifeform: in almost all extant proggies, 'db' and 'filesystem' are ~both~ 'tv rafts' ( http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524864 )
ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
mircea_popescu: break customer nrCgvFMWCqpO's october payment << this is so cool.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he said yest they cleared, to save you the work : http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1878002
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 17:21 BingoBoingo: And the datacenter just sent the statement of account showing receipt of the wires
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878451 << mysql also does this, and i recall the history too (anyone remember digg being out for a coupla days because morons hit the max count of db entries, re-defined table to use larger ints, and had to ~rebuild the index offline~ for 30+ hours ?)
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878449 << wouldntcha rather use mechanical compilers than meat , if you could ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:32 ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878282 << still quite a bit of value in sqlthings in managing fungible programmers. in the same way that common lisp fails at making cogs, mmmapped custom $whatever can be marvelously conservative of time and space, fit entirely in head, and also be anti-cog.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878451 << this is elementarily troo of all soft, neh -- 'today i booted a dos box and i didn't have to write dos!'
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 06:36 ben_vulpes: that postgres can build an index concurrently under load was pretty valuable just today, and nobody over here had to write it.
mircea_popescu: no, it's not. "today i tried to boot my bolix, had to re-write apple bus"
mircea_popescu: yes ? well ?
asciilifeform: i suppose this is after rats eat the last crapple 'quadra'
asciilifeform recalls a d00d who made a meagre living reading old pdp tapes for usg.nasa
mircea_popescu: so in short, it's a property of good soft. like dos. it is eminently not a property of software in generas, witness http://trilema.com/2017/what-are-you-being-distracted-from/#selection-113.0-143.44
mircea_popescu: in general* not in generas lol.
asciilifeform: in other noose, usg proclaims 'national day of mourning' for dead bush I
mircea_popescu: what, they like him now ?
asciilifeform: there's prolly ~some~ awareness that d00d presided over the last days of 'vhs usa'
asciilifeform: upstack: 'software stays wrote once written' was pretty much universal before web crapola. (e.g. nintendo games from 1980s, still run today same as when published)
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878457 << i would dearly love a compiler i could tell "please figure out how we X and write a one-pager for review", but this stinks of sv aiwilldoeverythingism
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 13:46 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878449 << wouldntcha rather use mechanical compilers than meat , if you could ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the solution to that doesn't look like 'robot who writes and explains X'. it looks like 'x, what x, we don't need any such x'
asciilifeform: !#s best machine no machine
a111: 12 results for "best machine no machine", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=best%20machine%20no%20machine
asciilifeform: ^ see also.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: I'll get to reading docs and pick a place to stand it up
ben_vulpes: and yet steam engine needs a governor asciilifeform; factories gotta crank, ben_vulpeses gotta shepherd cows through funnels.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: observe , factories cranked 9000x moar back when automation was a set of relays in ladderlogic.
asciilifeform: ( relays, behold, can rust contacts, but neither envirusate nor crash randomly )
asciilifeform: and dun need 'updates'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm not saying that i *like* this world, but that i'm going to eke fortune i can with the tools and men at hand.
asciilifeform: the particulars of ben_vulpes's dairy farm are between him and odin, 'whose cow might moo but mine oughta hush', asciilifeform worx on winblowz antiviri in saeculum...
mircea_popescu: it works as shockingly fine predictor. hospital that didn't work had emergency room vitals "something3000", evidently run on java. hospital that did work had same item philips, evidently built for moon missions.
mircea_popescu: it's remarkable that hundred bucks peripheral predicts hundred thousand mission.
asciilifeform: 'for the want of a nail'(tm)
mircea_popescu: rather, "the sort of brain that thinks this is acceptable, will think so many other idiocies acceptable, anything working out will be miracle rather than technology"
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: .008 for shared hosting (4 months) and 0.03419973 for the Rockchip (3 month), was done that way to synchronize their expirations for the end of January
asciilifeform likes marshak's translation 9000x better than the orig. 'Не было гвоздя -Подкова Пропала. / Не было подковы - Лошадь Захромала./ Лошадь захромала - Командир Убит./ Конница разбита -- Армия Бежит. / Враг вступает в город,/ Пленных не щадя, / Оттого, что в кузнице / Не было
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu do you know a ro version of this classic ?
ben_vulpes: i long ago gave up on the notion that i'd be working on anything approaching techne in american corpistan; but to wail about it instead of ekeing some amount of capital out seems fruitless. lessons of Mocky and phf instructive here.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, romanians don't think like that.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: one's a four-month period and the other a three-, does the hosting subscription start a month before the rockchip?
mircea_popescu: very much anti-romanian.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nao i'm curious, how is this
asciilifeform: are they deeply 'gott mit uns' sorta fellas
mircea_popescu: romanian peasant proud continuator of rome, through the byzantium method. "we've been holding eyes closed to world for 2k years, because head does not follow reality, reality follows head!"
mircea_popescu: they're even wearing the toga, today.
mircea_popescu: "it's not the church that has to follow the world ; it's the world that has to follow the church" catholic dictum. romanians don't need the dictum. they live it.
asciilifeform: sounds byzantine
mircea_popescu: it is earlier.
asciilifeform: yea but same psychosis
mircea_popescu: not any less stupid, mind. but earlier.
mircea_popescu: so it is.
asciilifeform: behold, asciilifeform's riff in eng :
asciilifeform: 'just one nail was lacking -- / and warhorse came unshod / lamely did the stallion / into battle trod / dead fell the commander/ from his limping ride / routed was the cavalry / 'flee, retreat!' they cried / foe broke through the city gates, / hear the vanquisheds' wail -- / all because the smithy / was missing just one nail.'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't see toga in ro, but then again prolly didn't go to the right reservation.
asciilifeform: did see folx at the bazar in trad costume, but it was ~indistinguishable from trad ukr outfit
asciilifeform: lotsa old farts in trad ~sov~ costume tho ( wassat ? suit with jacket that was new when hruschev dethroned, oily and ragged )
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: yes
BingoBoingo: Shared is for October, November, December, January... RockChip for November, December, January
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: thanks
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/12/tumblr-announces-porn-ban-beginning-december-17th-tumblr-anti-porn-ai-already-running-wild/ << Qntra -- Tumblr Announces Porn Ban Beginning December 17th, Tumblr Anti-Porn AI Already Running Wild
trinque: what else was the thing for?
asciilifeform: trinque: recall, thing was owned by zombie of yahoo, which in turn was rolled up into verizon, usg's undertaker co, same as bought aol
asciilifeform: and deeply -ev
asciilifeform: so being shot in the head.
asciilifeform: ( why not simply close the thing -- rather than imitating demise of digg, i do not know )
ben_vulpes: hallucinations of control over 'our kommyunity!'
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ty BingoBoingo
lobbesbot: ben_vulpes: Sent just now: <BingoBoingo> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/o2j73/?raw=true << As requested
asciilifeform: aha! exactly this
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: feel free to fire questions and instructions.
BingoBoingo: In other news, how nice is it the USG shut itself down today for a celebration of the day I got on an airplane.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878522 << nfi, it's like reddit announcing pompous idiocy ban.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 17:42 trinque: what else was the thing for?
mircea_popescu: w/e, they got "bought" by "investors" who are gonna lose every penny anyway, "might as well promote pantsuit ideals while office rent lasts"
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 17:47 asciilifeform: so being shot in the head.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: already lost erry penny, iirc verizon even tried to sue and 'unbuy' when remnant of yahoo was found to be publicly pwned shortly pre-sale
asciilifeform: but nfi what happened to that
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, kinda why they are corpse maggots, the "culture war" schmucktards : they ~only exist on corpses, the whole "code of conduct" / "trasnrights" / blabla is a necrosis epiphenomenon
asciilifeform: 'janitors of the forest'
mircea_popescu: the world has grown complex ; complex enough to support colonies of clostridium perfringens organizing parades to explain how "corpse is going fine / hemolysis normal in human bodies" etc.
mircea_popescu: "who can tell the difference" amirite, "a cell's a cell!"
asciilifeform: incidentally, tumblr -- at least , last i knew -- was famous among user base for a very... speshul style of db engineering, where 'let's return arbitrary subset of query, or sometimes gibblets of other users' queries, depending on load'
asciilifeform: writes silently failed erry ~third time, etc
asciilifeform: ( one might naively suppose that no one would use a thing like that -- but guess wat. )
mircea_popescu: you mean, like google.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 17:40 hanbot: in other still-using-google fun, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-13#1861765 << news search for bitcoin nominally yields 103M results, of which shitoogle will actually produce 290, which in turn yields ~30 non-duplicates. delayed another week i expect for spelunking.
asciilifeform: exactly like google, except billed as a writeable blog thing somehow.
asciilifeform: but moar or less rng
ben_vulpes: random return of db contents sorta related to what one asked for not so readily distinguishable from ai engagement-driving recommendations. toddlers put stuff in their mouths to figure out wtf it is, news at at eleven.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other lulz, here's anglopedia official sendoff on brejnev : "For Gorbachev and his adherents, Brezhnev came to personify everything that was wrong with the Soviet regime. The popularity of Gorbachev's program among Western specialists, and the interest generated by the new leader's dynamism after the boring stasis of Brezhnev's later years, precluded a reappraisal of Brezhnev's career until 2002, when a group of
mircea_popescu: younger scholars picked up on Brezhnev's growing popularity among certain members of the Russian population. These people remembered with fondness Brezhnev's alleviation of their or their parents' poverty, a relief made all the more striking by the extreme impoverishment experienced by many in the post-Soviet era. This reassessment may appear unwarranted to those who prize political liberty above marginal increments in materi
mircea_popescu: al consumption."
asciilifeform: trinque: deedbot down ??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, the 'stagnation' ( 'брежневский застой' ) was opposite of the chinese proverbial 'interesting times'
mircea_popescu: eh, it's not so simple, su was doing pretty shittily economically.
mircea_popescu: "oh let's make more steel". not much of a plan, india makes most ofg the world's steel today and nobody cares.
asciilifeform: btw, phunphakt -- the black market folx like http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-04#1878313 , were left largely alone in stalin's time, and filled all sortsa gaps ( Officially they had to use only 'factory tailings' for raw material. but in practice were left almost entirely unmolested . ) it was hrusch who 'drank own coolaid' and started nailing'em in earnest
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 19:59 asciilifeform: 'The story was very typical. The famous Roifman who was at the center of the first of the “textile trials” also kept his mouth shut, so that not even the snoopers could talk him round. Then he was summoned to see Semichastny, head of the KGB, and Malyarov, the Deputy Public Prosecutor, who gave him their sincere Party word that he wouldn’t be shot if he gave up his riches. Roifman believed them, handed in his valuables—and
asciilifeform: with the predictable result.
mircea_popescu: centralisation only goes one way.
asciilifeform: when inca swallows, generally doesn't unswallow, aha
trinque: ty asciilifeform. did you say you figured out what the reconnect bug was with pehbot or no?
trinque: if not it'll be near the top of my stack to investigate.
asciilifeform: trinque: sadly i have not instrumented the thing to see why sometimes not reconnects
asciilifeform: fwiw pehbot's stood for ~week straight nao
asciilifeform: but erry once in a while it does fall
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in the local rags: https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/aeronaves-militares-rusa-y-saudies-estacionaron-en-uruguay-durante-la-cumbre-del-g20-201812421955
mircea_popescu: wtf is with the "sapiosexuals"
asciilifeform: !#s sapiosexual
asciilifeform: apparently a redditism
mircea_popescu: some ustards read foucault in translation sometime last year, decided "they want to break free of socially-constructed sexual prison", "invented more sexualities"
mircea_popescu: this is "attracted to intelligence", notwithstanding sophia has little to do with sepia.
mircea_popescu: also notwithstanding they can blow it out their ass, for all the diff it makes.
asciilifeform: 'let 1000 corpseflowers bloom' , or how did it go.
ben_vulpes: typically a quiet desperate plea for more than three neurons that flash when rubbed against each other. it's rare! desirable! easier to say you want it and pray the filter works than to go out and filter.
asciilifeform: evidently mircea_popescu Doing It Wrong!111 why filter sea water, just ask the uranium to walk into door
l0de: holy god
l0de: what a struggle
l0de: yes hello
l0de: l0de here
danielpbarron: l0de is the host of the l0de radio hour, the show that was recently in the news for targeted printer spam
asciilifeform: !#born l0de
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in early 2000s there were upwards of 1000 open-to-lan printers at asciilifeform's uni. but could not think of what to feed'em..
l0de: my suggestion was
asciilifeform: 'The owner of the L0de Radio Show contacted BleepingComputer and issued this statement: "I deny any involvement in these printer scam campaigns and disavow these actions. I've taken down my YouTube channel and made my twitter account protected so as not to benefit from them and am directing visitors to a charitable organization."' << rly?!
asciilifeform: why ??
l0de: "THIS PRINTER NEEDS EMERGENCY SERVICE PLEASE CALL #"
l0de: or something to that extent
l0de: "EMERGENCY PLEASE CALL THIS NUMBER IMMEDIATELY!"
ben_vulpes: who's the anniez character?
danielpbarron: somoene else from l0de's channel
l0de: how frequently do you have to re-verify your key
danielpbarron: i've been authed for a month now i think
danielpbarron: it lasts until you leave the channel
l0de: so freenode dependent
l0de: lemme save this dumb key
BingoBoingo: Well, connection dependent
l0de: will see how ircclown does
anniez: that was a struggle -_-
anniez: ty for the challenge
anniez: do you guys use keybase at all ?
danielpbarron: !#s keybase
anniez: oh that's pretty cool
anniez: seems majority dislike keybase
a111: Logged on 2018-06-22 14:31 asciilifeform: KimuSan^: how , precisely , does keybase differ from the key escrow db clinton tried to make mandatory ?
anniez: asciilifeform: what's the mandatory clinton key db ?
asciilifeform: anniez: https://www.epic.org/crypto/clipper/white_house_statement_2_94.html & elsewhere
asciilifeform: early usg attempt to ban crypto
anniez: god dangit
anniez: i'm sick of these rich asshole fkin things up
asciilifeform: anniez: point being, if you use some idiot's 'service' to park privkey in, you're ~voluntarily~ clintonizing yer key
l0de: o fuq
anniez: ye that makes sense
anniez: nice l0de someone got you in the news
anniez: do you know who been sending those out?
l0de: maybe that hackergiraffe guy
l0de: or the torpedo
anniez: asciilifeform: damn, that sounds true af
anniez: uh so i registered with my keybase public gpg key. should i remove and redo ?
anniez: and do it better ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-05#1878606 << what was wrong with printing http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/ or http://trilema.com/2017/the-universal-plan-for-wealth/ or http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/ or http://trilema.com/2015/a-blast-from-the-past-or-the-molotov-cocktail-guide-this-is-how-you-win/ etcetera ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-05 22:22 l0de: "THIS PRINTER NEEDS EMERGENCY SERVICE PLEASE CALL #"
mircea_popescu: just whose side are you on, exactly ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 17:18 weevlos: trinque: we are a media publication. our power and capital comes from the number of visitors we have to the site. we aim to transform through culture. if normal people cannot visit our site we are not accomplishing our goal
l0de: spoken by a sad little man
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform depending on his answer ima -1 "advertised the wrong thing".
asciilifeform: wild folx screaming into the wilderness with no rhyme or reason
mircea_popescu: man, reading ye olde trilemas is such a pleasure. really amassed over the years.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-03 15:14 mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-03#1877917 << If this is regarding payment for the 9.5k wFF, I sent payment at the beginning of November, Sir: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-30#1867587 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-01#1868263
mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853297 : there's an amusing parallel between the lulzcourt of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869594 "re-habilitating trotsky", and a very similar device "re-habilitating" gilles de rais, joan of arc's imago in medieval france. now that one actually http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877727
a111: Logged on 2018-09-23 22:14 asciilifeform: there's a reason they try to set up 'fucked 17yo' for these, it is a kind of gold standard, rather like the old 'trotskyite counter-revolutionary activity', tends to put a cork in all discussion in derposphere by harnessing the healthy hatred for podesta-style pedo, insta-alchemizes accusation into 'guilt', etc
a111: Logged on 2018-11-05 16:27 mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, there's actually two distinguishable pantsuit trends to this day, a mystagogical cvasi-elitism spawned from boas and a mechanicistic mammie-ism visibly spawned off dewey.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 23:41 asciilifeform: i'm prolly the wrong fella to do it tho, very much not unbiased, i'll still like the character even if time machine supplies incontrovertible proof that he was a cannibal and ate hot chix erry morning for breakfast
mircea_popescu: this thing was some shit to behold, a "grandmaster of masonic lodge" plus some ex-unesco http://trilema.com/2017/in-case-you-were-wondering-where-all-the-worthless-nuland-drones-ended-up/ , ex government ministers, assorted http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ and other nexi of gross malignant incompetence got together and declared "how things should be", free from any involvement
mircea_popescu: from, eg, someone who had a fucking clue about medieval history AT ALL.
mircea_popescu: !!up anniez
deedbot: anniez voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: hey trinque, does !!register <newykey> and decripting otp work to replace old key with new ? or is it hand-cranked ?
BingoBoingo: In other news, some kid up in Salto became the first case of Leishmaniasis in Uruguay
BingoBoingo: Thankfully Salto is about as far from me as possible in Uruguay, but...
mircea_popescu: leprosy lite.
BingoBoingo: But will the Uruguayos stop being poor and start pressure washing the Pichis off the street? I have my doubts until the redditbags start inflating
mircea_popescu: nfi what that has to do with anything, sandflies aren't bum driven
BingoBoingo: If they can't clean up bums, I have my doubts they can clean up the sandflies
BingoBoingo: If the bums got "derechos humanos" the sandflies gotta have "derechos sandflies"
mircea_popescu: some places had success with nightly plowhing of beaches.
mircea_popescu: those places are large, rich, landlocked countries with small shorelines. not poor new world/africa shitholes with more beach than real estate.
BingoBoingo: Beaches in Montevideo get plowed, but not nightly. Salto's not much of a beach town. More of a hot springs town. On the Uruguay river rather than the big one
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-06#1878666 << iirc that lulzfest hinged on a 'cui bono' ( the folx who nailed de rais got to eat his estate ) , i can't picture what else tho
a111: Logged on 2018-12-06 00:50 mircea_popescu: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-23#1853297 : there's an amusing parallel between the lulzcourt of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-05#1869594 "re-habilitating trotsky", and a very similar device "re-habilitating" gilles de rais, joan of arc's imago in medieval france. now that one actually http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877727
asciilifeform: gotta wonder what made him an attractive figure to'em for 'rehabilitation' tho
asciilifeform: iirc d00d was an early specimen of the 'how to become millionaire? start as billionaire!' dynamic, rather than mega-hero
mircea_popescu: eh, there's this http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-06#1878657 "search for republic on own terms", "gilles WOULD HAVE SEEN MY TRUE WORTH!!!" nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-06 00:10 asciilifeform: wild folx screaming into the wilderness with no rhyme or reason
mircea_popescu: it's often enough how http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761494 items found themselves in lordship positions cope with the obvious disparity between ability and necessity -- find some "jesus would understand me" icon to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-28#1875661
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:16 mircea_popescu: so, this poor unfortunate soul found herself living her parent's dream : an assistant professor! at the prestigious ubb no less!
a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 01:35 trinque: drug users (see: g_l) do this, go around declaring doctrines like lisplinux-chimera god and inventing pegleg rituals of devotion to her
mircea_popescu: "the republic with dead mp", as it were. i fail to see the difference between trotskite dewey, derais-ite cowley, or wtf was that lulzy irc channel...
mircea_popescu: this particular dig excavated some rather interesting ancient lulz. 1. the fetlife of 2013! http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-16#380915 ; 2. http://trilema.com/2014/dial-1-646-480-0703-for-bitcoin/ << the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-12#1860897 of 2014! 3. http://trilema.com/2014/the-irc-world-is-a-big-but-very-flat-place/ << the http://trilema.com/2018/so-whats-out-there/ of 2014!
a111: Logged on 2013-11-16 18:59 mircea_popescu: "I am an executive assistant by profession, but I have worked as a stripper and escort in the US."
a111: Logged on 2018-10-12 16:20 mircea_popescu: fancy that, mod6 , tbf now has 0800 number.
mircea_popescu: holy shit the patience i had back in 2016. and good fucking riddance.