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asciilifeform: holyfuq that drainpipe stove. they have better stoves in gulag.
phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective
asciilifeform: i dungetit , why not fair comparison
asciilifeform: the cr folx have 2 arms and 2 legs, neh
asciilifeform: they could make oildrum stove like anybody else.
asciilifeform: phf: or didja mean the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-08#1748753 thesis. then sure.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-08 15:02 asciilifeform: the 'good climate makes folx lazy and slowly climbing 'back up to trees' ' item is an old saw, but i'm not aware of any major hole in the theory
phf: asciilifeform: it's not a fair comparison to gulag folx
phf: they were still men, doing things. this is, like your quoted item, half way up a tree
phf: you know how when somebody says "she's like a pig" and somebody says "that's not fair to the pig, pigs are noble creatures"
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's puzzler is , re how mircea_popescu gave verdict 'argentines are subhuman' but then moves closer to equator, where monkeys , and somehow there - 'not subhuman'
asciilifeform: ( not even clear, to my untrained eye, why 'ticos' need stove. to make tea, primus would suffice, neh )
phf: can't burn trash and flotsam in a primus
asciilifeform: gotta admit, the 'charm' of the squalor, is lost on asciilifeform .
phf: i think mircea_popescu benefits the more virginal the peasants are around him. easier to source untainted (?) bulk meat of four legged and two legged kind
asciilifeform: i recall his theory that it generates better chix, somehow. but still strikes me as ugh.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, fwiw my reading of the matter is "less pretense"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can see this pov. fwiw my emulated mircea_popescu says : 'if ameritards were given their just deserts per their actual productivity, they would then lack not only their gas stove, but would not even have primus'
phf: asciilifeform: while idly researching camping stoves, i recently saw a lulzy video of an american trying to light a polish camping primus and failing miserably (the manual dexterity (???) required for the pre-heat phase was apparently too much for this particular specimen)
phf: *ukranian
asciilifeform: 'we can't get kerosene, let's use diesel' even
asciilifeform: the sheer wtf...
asciilifeform: and all over hands.
mircea_popescu is actually quite curious if esthlos managed to do two days yest :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think the zinc'd sheet item is 100% made by hand with hand tools. hands of people not even particularly strong.
mircea_popescu: it's what i'd expect an industrious 9yo with unlimited materials & time at his disposition would turn out.
asciilifeform: sheet metal scissors, ha.
mircea_popescu: also i'll point out, 49k colones is almost a whole benjie
mircea_popescu: this isn't somalia 1-dollar-a-day level of starvation poor. costa rica is relatively economically developed, about on par with say ohio.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838160 << this is very much the salient point here. the new world tribesmen, be they of the spanish-mediated variety as in "whatever survived onslaught" or the dutch&english mediated varieties, as in "we withrew to mancave leaving the stupid women behind to revert to irqouisism reinforced with some somaliland shamanic sentiment" are very much children, fundamentally and irrecoverably intelle
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 13:43 phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective
mircea_popescu: ctually simple.
mircea_popescu: kinda like the revered mirvniki of legend, takes 100 of them to make cvasifunctional approximation of human agent.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 13:53 asciilifeform: the cr folx have 2 arms and 2 legs, neh
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838170 << argentines are literally and without exageration a bunch of soy farmers who pretend FOR NO REASON conceivable, a circumstance of which they are aware AND PRETEND IT DOES NOT MATTER! AT ALL!, pretend they say they're something in the vein of "third power in europe". and that they might have such things as submarines, and so on. it's literally pig going through girls' charm cabinet a
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 14:03 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's puzzler is , re how mircea_popescu gave verdict 'argentines are subhuman' but then moves closer to equator, where monkeys , and somehow there - 'not subhuman'
mircea_popescu: nd insisting there's no difference between vamp in her make-up and the very pig with lipstick.
mircea_popescu: this is offensive to the senses.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the ticos are ~coffee farmers~, ie, you realise, mountain fucking people, and this is NOT the same, i've never met plainsdwellers i could stand. and they pretend to nothing whatsoever, but they are specifically and openly dedicated to todo bien.
mircea_popescu: ie, they're cows, minding their own fucking business of cowsing. how can one take offence with that ? and how could one, even if momentarily offended by whatever matching of circumstance capable of tricking his eye, how could one not, on the second pass when one always thinks about things, not realise it's really his fucking problem, trying to affix veils to veals and whatnot ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838175 << this is absolutely not true. after months during which i had my girls scour the place (and seeing how the population isn't all that much, i do believe they touched personally every single individual female that could perhaps be worth my consideration) the net result was epsilon. most of the bootcamp population is imported here, and for very fundamental reasons : it takes ~a lot~ of
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 14:08 phf: i think mircea_popescu benefits the more virginal the peasants are around him. easier to source untainted (?) bulk meat of four legged and two legged kind
mircea_popescu: intellectual sophistication to cut it as a slavegirl in my harem. i said before, "There's not who'd compete and there's not how to compete with her, it's a laughable proposition, like a samurai at a kindergarten." and yes that is after training. but all the training in the world can't help the instant kindergartner.
mircea_popescu: on the basis of extensive experience i'd guess there's high five to six figures females potentially interesting to me alive at any given moment. and yes i intend to see them all before i die.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so the appeal of cr -- the climate, the iguanas ?
mircea_popescu: yes, as to the climate, it's perfect and eternal spring. yes, as to the land, it's fucking beautiful, and the pineapple is fabulous and the coffee is best-in-the-world and so on.
asciilifeform: makes sense.
mircea_popescu: it delivers the things you ~want~ from the general population, eg, grocery bag boy who is, genuinely and thoroughly, deligted to bag my ~500 worth of imported french wine and whatnot. and he'll take the time to roll each bottle nicely in thick paper, if i want him to. and he'll hitch it all to a cart and follow me to the car, and be so fucking thrilled he got a fiver for it.
mircea_popescu: and people who will stop traffic to pull your car out from the mud because you stopped to take pics. and in general, you don't want to fuck your neighbour specifically, the little you fuck (and it IS little, boyish fantasies notwithstanding, one competent, well trained woman can exhaust and keep exhausted a dozen or more men) can very well be imported.
mircea_popescu: it helps though if your neighbour harbors no airs or delusions of self importance. it helps IMMENSELY.
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu brought own servant hands errywhere
asciilifeform: what's the use of the bottle wrapping boy
asciilifeform: ( iirc there was a trilema where 'restaurant waiter is a kind of ersatz servant for those who can't afford own, like that jacket they keep for the occasional d00d who wanders in without jacket' )
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 16:31 asciilifeform: it went approx like this, iirc some time in 2016 : asciilifeform : 'if quality slavegurlz can be trained to do anything , mircea_popescu couldja spare 1 or 2 for ada battallion ' mircea_popescu : 'hell no, why would i waste any on such a thing; what next, i will ask asciilifeform to do field work detail in their place ? '
asciilifeform: i dun see contradiction -- they're already with you in restaurant, neh, it isn't as if wrapping bottle will subtract from the spywork
mircea_popescu: how would you know ?
mircea_popescu: maybe she's tailing the soviets. maybe she's picking up random dutch tourist girl. maybe she's just having a snooze.
mircea_popescu: there's no shortage of work to be done, and nothing wrong with relief from the menial.
asciilifeform: speaking of 'no relief from the menial', i'ma bbl.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i for one am amused by his easy slide from "why do you like" to "why do you need". obviously i don't fucking need a waitress, yes i can have my own sluts do it for me, and on (rare!) occasion i do just that. but why the fuck would i trade slavegirl time for minwage time, for one, and why the fuck would i have to ~like~ having to do it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838183 << and then you wanna talk about "halfway up tree". these are the people with "we can't get penis, let's use bit of plastic" right.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 14:53 asciilifeform: 'we can't get kerosene, let's use diesel' even
a111: Logged on 2018-07-28 12:22 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-27#1838045 -> thanks, paid
mod6: ah, nice. big step back up in difficulty, +14.88%
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi in what shithole the d00d in the clip lives, even here there is kerosene.
asciilifeform: ( sold errywhere, lotsa folx have kerosene heaters in sheds, terrible malodorous thing )
BingoBoingo: ^Questions, comments, suggestions welcome
mircea_popescu: lol not bad.
mircea_popescu: and holy shit what am i going to do with this dumbass.
BingoBoingo: Have one of the other classmates set her up a bouncer?
mircea_popescu: i don't believe in palliation.
BingoBoingo: In that case you could get her delivered to your mountain and get a start as a banana plantation owner.
BingoBoingo: Specialization and all that
BingoBoingo: If she's eager but otherwise inept, there's always holes that need dug
mircea_popescu: and steam excavators to dig them.
BingoBoingo: And I take it you don't have need for a single purpose dishwasher.
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/cl-keccak-week-3/ << esthlos - cl-keccak, Week 3
asciilifeform finally got inlining to work properly in ffa, ave-style . nao, the article!
asciilifeform: gonna put'em on a 1st-and-15th calendar.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to round off prev thread , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-30#1838243 is exactly it -- i'd prefer 'steam' waiters too, if these existed ! somehow asciilifeform is 100% blind to the 'feeling served' pleasure. i like work to happen, dun much care how, and steam beats meat just about erry time.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-30 00:21 mircea_popescu: and steam excavators to dig them.
asciilifeform bbl,meat
mircea_popescu: sometimes you sound like you just got off the set of a chaplin movie.
BingoBoingo: In still other discoveries of the day they have a deli meat here. It's like mortadella and morcilla had a child on a bed of black pepper.
BingoBoingo: In other news, a "tupamaro" (some sort of terrorist Italian hill monkey from which most of the current government is derived) is suing the local gov for treating him like a terrorist https://www.elobservador.com.uy/amodio-perez-demanda-al-estado-us-320-mil-n1259700
asciilifeform: 'De este modo, el BROU se convirtió en el único actor identificado que sacó un rédito económico con el secuestro que tuvo a Salomone recluida durante un mes: cobró aproximadamente US$ 2.500 por concepto de sus servicios.' << lolwtf
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: is that little thing on the wall, tv antenna ?! and it catches something??
BingoBoingo: It is indeed the antenna, and it catches all of the local channels.
asciilifeform: impressive
BingoBoingo: Mind all of the local channels come from antennas within 5km of here
asciilifeform: still impressive, i'd have imagined multipath would be a killer in BingoBoingostan
BingoBoingo: Well, It's a missouri sized country they are broadcasting too and they do the digital video thing with some sort of error correcting mechanism
BingoBoingo: I also get one classic method tv channel of unknown (maybe Argentine?) origin
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