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mircea_popescu: in other cypherfunk lulz, "SlaveRegistry.com was allowed to go defunk on April 4th 2017, it went to auction on 5-9-17 and after a bidding war for the domain my baby and I took formal ownership of it on 5/16/17 to make sure that the M/s community still had this resource. Just like many other M/s couples my baby has a slave number which is permanently etched on my body just as my masters mark is on hers. I was not about to let
mircea_popescu: this registry go to the way side and be used by some random porn site to push traffic... to many that identify as M/s this is a part of who they are!"
mircea_popescu: maybe vellum archival is the way to go after all.
jurov: slavecoin blockchain
asciilifeform: ^ ethertards cleaned again
shinohai: lmao ...
shinohai: LOL The Baloney xchange won' provide support for BCC, Ver immediately pays for farticle: http://archive.is/7RsXy
mircea_popescu: In a post-mortem announcement, Middleton posted online today, the Veritaseum CEO said "the amount stolen was miniscule (less than 00.07%) although the dollar amount was quite material."
mircea_popescu: this does not immediately translate to "we wash trade like nobody;s business", especially if you're fucktarded.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/30A4AD682B45FB1BFD5541FD2BDE7BFD28BB777EDB7C3F58D9DA35D8D0E603CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1736...6193 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '35.9.67.37 (ssh-rsa key from 35.9.67.37 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (chaos.pa.msu.edu. US MI)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/30A4AD682B45FB1BFD5541FD2BDE7BFD28BB777EDB7C3F58D9DA35D8D0E603CE << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1654...2859 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '35.9.67.37 (ssh-rsa key from 35.9.67.37 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (chaos.pa.msu.edu. US MI)
shinohai: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFiMhNUXoAUbdyR.jpg "If someone were to someone (sic) confiscate 100% of the available tokens, all we need to do is refuse to stand behind them and recreate the token under a new contract"
shinohai: This shit is the ultimate SFYL generator
mircea_popescu: i find it hysterical how the socialist mind is entirely immune to any consideration of communication costsa
mircea_popescu: "what, that thing that makes our theoretical system unworkable in practice ? PISH! we could switch the earth into a concave form if we all agreed to jump at the same time!"
mircea_popescu: the FUCKING POINT of the ipo was to get y'all idiots and imbeciles to "all" something. and it... failed. and now ? ???
shinohai: If your cardboard gets wet and misshapen, we simply cut you out a new one. Problem solved!
a111: Logged on 2017-07-25 14:40 mircea_popescu: and in other wtfs, http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html
lobbes: http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html#twelve << "Unlike credit card transactions, which leave a digital trail, bitcoin transactions are designed to be anonymous and untraceable. When you transfer bitcoins to someone else, it's as if you handed over a paper bag filled with $100 bills in a dark alley." Hahahaha. This is gold.
ben_vulpes: does anyone have b006b252052c84eb2dba6e59c011215b2e1f6d401f14e655a676537cb651b55b kicking around in a mempool?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nope. why?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A767717115907722CAF56D3C728599D81AE021A90EA02E7EBF170105426BC98A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1640...1697 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.221.134.122 (ssh-rsa key from 77.221.134.122 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (nagios.datapoint.spb.su. RU)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A767717115907722CAF56D3C728599D81AE021A90EA02E7EBF170105426BC98A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1669...1749 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '77.221.134.122 (ssh-rsa key from 77.221.134.122 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (nagios.datapoint.spb.su. RU)
asciilifeform: 'Санкт-Петербург онлайн'
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: sent a transaction, refuses to confirm
ben_vulpes: ofc i forgot to set a fee for the node, so it's clearly my fault
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you have the low-S patch , neh ?
asciilifeform: ( mod6's )
asciilifeform: then thank spamola
ben_vulpes: how does this follow?
asciilifeform: there are none so blind as those who will not open their third eye. or how did it go.
ben_vulpes: well what i do not understand is what the low/high s bit has to do with its deprioritization in favor of spamola
asciilifeform: nothing, was separate q
asciilifeform: interestingly asciilifeform recently learned that the 'mutate high to low S and broadcast malleated tx but ONLY if a 'doublespend attempt' ( you retransmitting, say, with patched trb ) is detected ' thing is STILL running
asciilifeform: and still nfi who or why.
asciilifeform: ( reencoding + retransmitting that is )
asciilifeform: in other phunphakts, ada does NOT permit the use of bitwise ops ('and', 'xor', etc) on integer. ( only on booleans; and on 'modular types' - i.e. where the compiler is absolutely certain that subj is a machine integer and machine uses 2s-complement representation.)
asciilifeform: i can picture the discussion at the table : 'what if the sign bit on some machine is the FIRST, not last? or kept in the MIDDLE!111'
asciilifeform: pretty interesting intro, turns out, to the world pre- intelhegemony -- where you have no ability to assume not only size of byte, but arithmetic model
asciilifeform: 'could be ANYTHING, and you may NOT program with assumptions as to what it is'
asciilifeform: exquisite, imho, trap for c-tards.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-25#1689871 << aha! "The economic significance of this Bitcoin roller coaster was basically nil." ~Paul Krugman. a once-respected economist meanwhile quietly beheaded by the republic.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-25 15:35 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-25#1689863 << lol, the shitrag distinguished by masterpiece http://www.issuesandalibis.org/041913.html#twelve
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> ofc i forgot to set a fee for the node, so it's clearly my fault << spend from the paid address, WITH a fee. most miners will include both.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by whom and for what was he respected?
mircea_popescu: by the washpo, and for being a convincingly "liberal" socialist.
asciilifeform: is what i thought
mircea_popescu: leaving aside her pretty cunt, is she acceptalby faced ?
asciilifeform: but 'once respected' had implication of 'by people'
asciilifeform: faced << not imho
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: spend from the paying address or paid address?
mircea_popescu: ah, i didn't mean that.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the paid address.
ben_vulpes: so if i send a tx to friend a with no fee, and it gets stuck, the advice is to ask friend a to spend from that address and then miners are in the habit of then including the stuck txn?
mircea_popescu: yes. specifically, to spend the input you sent him. this will produce a chain of A->B txn, of which A has no fee itself but B does (except to get at it you must also include A).
asciilifeform: lulzy also in that it exposes elementary allcomer ddos of miner
mircea_popescu: alternatively, you can simply import that address privkey into an offline wallet, have it sign a different tx (with a fee!) and broadcast that.
mircea_popescu: "offline" here just means "that won't hear about the 0fee tx".
asciilifeform: ( this function requires potentially unbounded orphanage to eval )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, about half of them do max 2, about a third of the remainder max 3, and i think ther'es a max 8 also in there.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: oh neato
ben_vulpes: yeah, i can do the wallet dance, was curious about this
mircea_popescu: it's marginally cleaner to do the first rather than the 2nd, but then again it may be actually easier to do something yourselfd than explain to another what to do.
ben_vulpes: i didn't know people were accepting chained transactions
ben_vulpes: also that
mircea_popescu: for a coupla years now, yes.
ben_vulpes: this is the "replace by fee" thing?
asciilifeform: yes, and you can flood'em with n-length (e.g. 7) chains that end in 'ha, gotcha' instead of tx-in-old-block, as root
asciilifeform: which they're stuck walking
ben_vulpes: dunno why it needed a name
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, that'd require an A and an A' and you decide which to go by terms of B fee. that is iffier.
ben_vulpes: wallet dance as rbf i mean
asciilifeform: eating chains also seems dumb from a likelihood of orphaning of block pov
mircea_popescu: amusingly en0ough the tx chain started happening a few weeks after i whined about wtf why is it not there. but i'm sure coincidenceh.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whyssat ?
ben_vulpes: what does a' mean in this context; spending same inputs as a but with eg different fee?
mircea_popescu: is that a quote or ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually no, nm
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not cleanly ideal etc, but what you gonna do, people will accidentally 0fee.
ben_vulpes: q is in re what makes an A' from an A, not a quote, prime symbol
mircea_popescu: ah yes, you have two different txs that spend the same output ; and the proposal was to resolve which gets included by adding a dependent tx with a higher fee ; so that A' + B always confirm instead of A because larger joint tx fee.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ( this function requires potentially unbounded orphanage to eval ) << Well since they can get away with doing it now, they MUST
BingoBoingo: And yes, this was used as DDoS Sauce against miners in the mempool bloating attacks.
BingoBoingo: Chains far longer than 2 transactions
BingoBoingo: But so long as miners live/die on sucking shit, they still gotta do it
BingoBoingo: No ifs, ands, or butts
mircea_popescu: in the meanwhilulz, someone made a "game" : https://www.nationstates.net/nation=tesla-land
mircea_popescu: ahaha wait, is that yours ?
mircea_popescu: o hey. well, it must've crossed whatever google spam threshold or such, i finally saw it.
BingoBoingo: only really ping it monthly to keep it from becoming inactive.
shinohai: Pallas cat is nice touch
BingoBoingo: Thing's been around long enough to have made now dead countries in school classes. If anything "game" prolly has lower profile now than ever.
BingoBoingo: Unless still inflated user stats from people making Statal oppressions as projects for skewl
BingoBoingo: "The Tesla-landian economy, worth 231 billion Coils a year, is led by the Cheese Exports industry, with major contributions from Book Publishing, Arms Manufacturing, and Retail. State-owned companies are reasonably common. Average income is 38,599 Coils, and evenly distributed, with the richest citizens earning only 3.2 times as much as the poorest." << Oh my, what is this hippy stuff?
shinohai: http://archive.is/hABGX "in the unlikely event that the 2MB block size increase portion of Segwit2x fails to activate, Bitcoin.com will immediately shift all company resources to supporting Bitcoin Cash exclusively."
shinohai: Ver gonna ver
mircea_popescu: company resources ? sorry ?
mircea_popescu: "oh i got a VALUABLE DOMAIN NAME!!!"
shinohai: lmao
mircea_popescu: am i the only one who recalls the inept lulz back when he was trying to sell/rent that in 2015 ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no clue << Git gud n00b, u mad cuz u bad?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> am i the only one who recalls the inept lulz back when he was trying to sell/rent that in 2015 ? << AHA, DID SELL/RENT, RE-NIG'd
BingoBoingo: Poor Chicoms Ver fucked
BingoBoingo: As opposed to the poor masses ver fucked Winter 2014 with "PLS GIX is SOLVENT, k thx Bi"
mircea_popescu: one of the funniest dorks the upheaval temporarily drug up, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: he and that schmuck filming a "bitcoin show" with the cam in demo mode pretty much share the accidentally-spotlighted-fucktard award for early bitcoinade.
BingoBoingo: Ah, the Bitcoin/Pedocoin fork!
shinohai: I always though https://bounty.bitcoin.com/mtgox.html was one of the lulziest things he ever did
shinohai: (Besides the meltdown over 5 bitcents or whatever it was)
mircea_popescu: nah it was like 20 bux. 15, 25, something. prolly half a btc at the time or such.
BingoBoingo: It was 0.5 or 0.54 or something.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2555.55, vol: 21325.01974007 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2561.0, vol: 56062.96645355 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2618.406519, vol: 17418.81890000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2563.003, vol: 10782.9982542 | Volume-weighted last average: 2569.57403572
BingoBoingo: If Ver didn't spend it all shoving agricultural explosives up his Buttcoinslot, he could prolly buy a working Honda del sol for that money.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/07/a-quick-faq-about-the-not-bitcoin-fork-bitcoin-cash/ << Qntra - A Quick FAQ About The Not Bitcoin fork "Bitcoin Cash"
asciilifeform: in other noose, kako finally retromonkeying with his log
asciilifeform: replaces all mention of trilema with 'fraudster'
shinohai: So much butthurt still
BingoBoingo: !!Up deep-book-gk_
deedbot: deep-book-gk_ voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: deep-book-gk_: Who is your daddy and what does he do?
mod6: evenin'
BingoBoingo: Good evening mod6
mod6: hai, just catchin up on ze logs and qntra
BingoBoingo: Kewl, Qntra's still a bit slow. The lulzy part of the year is still just beginning
mod6: for sure
mod6: lol diaper world.
mod6: that one girl from earlier was smokin
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/38A6B0B2A49CE250B5E15C13A267D6E1C92EEEFD6B079242BF5DD42DBDBDD603 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1725...6207 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.32.191.138 (ssh-rsa key from 176.32.191.138 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown RU LEN)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/38A6B0B2A49CE250B5E15C13A267D6E1C92EEEFD6B079242BF5DD42DBDBDD603 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1485...7853 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '176.32.191.138 (ssh-rsa key from 176.32.191.138 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown RU LEN)
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