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ben_vulpes: because fucked company was never a thing
asciilifeform: hey, it Unhappened!!
ben_vulpes: complete with hamburger menu and opacity overlay
ben_vulpes: gag me with a fork
ben_vulpes: classic hn -> bitcoin-assets -> trilema conveyor belt
ben_vulpes: 1 hn comment even mentions fucked company
asciilifeform: i srsly have nfi where punkman gets the noose, for all i know he writes himself.
ben_vulpes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14319042 << cannot tell if troll but 4/10 notbad.tiff if so
danielpbarron: i found a karaoke venue that lets me sing "offensive" songs. at some point after i finished singing one of my songs, a girl calls for my attention using my name. i don't recall what i said, but her reply was to say that i was "rude" to her. i lose interest and walk away. later on i'm outside having a smoke and she confronts me again. says she "has a bone to pick" with me about something she heard i had said to one of her male frien
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/fake-news-still-fixated-on-comey-firing-us-lamestream-media-burning-last-vestiges-of-credibility-in-confusing-c-words/ << Qntra - Fake News Still Fixated On Comey Firing: US Lamestream Media Burning Last Vestiges Of Credibility In Confusing C-Words
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Actual girl or Female2Mayo transperson?
danielpbarron: there were lots of questionables there, but this particular one seemed to be strictly girl
danielpbarron: her friend was kinda cute, asked me to sing a duet with her
BingoBoingo: Is that halal or haram?
danielpbarron: i obliged, even though the song was terrible and i had never done it before
danielpbarron: i did a better job of it than she did though
BingoBoingo: That's too be expected. Competence is a very lordly attribute
mircea_popescu: ahh, hanbot found a great fucking place. cabaret-restaurant.
mircea_popescu: owner is this total hottie, too.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655048 << i'm sorry, "Delayed action radioactive magicgas" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 02:48 asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/gUi5K
mircea_popescu: the best korea enjoys a tenuous grasp of physics.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655086 << yeah, ephemeral nature of us culture.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 04:22 ben_vulpes: because fucked company was never a thing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655101 << sounds like run of the mill attention whoring.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 05:49 danielpbarron: i obliged, even though the song was terrible and i had never done it before
shinohai: http://archive.is/Jb2jR <<< /me is sorry for your loss
phf`: “First-Ever LSD Microdosing Study Will Pit the Human Brain Against AI (vice.com)”
phf`: “Ask HN: How can a front-end developer dive into machine learning?”
phf`: “Alan Kay at Startup School [video] (startupschool.org)”
phf`: “Self-Compassion Works Better Than Self-Esteem (theatlantic.com)”
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << lol!! yet another gang of 'responsible!111' scum , withholding leaked docs and fellating nsa
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 11:25 shinohai: http://archive.is/Jb2jR <<< /me is sorry for your loss
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655107 << Rn, the most common unstable gas, kills quite slowly. the comicsl phrasing is really artifact of kr lang
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 06:38 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655048 << i'm sorry, "Delayed action radioactive magicgas" ?
asciilifeform: *comical
asciilifeform: it'd be a pretty spiffy murder weapon, if you think about it. alpha emitter, doesn't show on any commonplace geiger. detectors exist, but typically folx put'em in cellars, where natural radon comes from earth
asciilifeform: and never in, say, a boat. plane.
asciilifeform: or say fella 'gotta have problems' and needs a tooth pulled. so he gets a bit of Rn in his laughing gas...
asciilifeform: then dies of hugochavez a year or so later.
asciilifeform: decays to... polonium
asciilifeform: then, couple hours and chain of short-lived liquishit later -- stable Pb.
mod6: mornin'
mircea_popescu: heya mod6
shinohai: Buenas dias Mr. P
mircea_popescu: how hoes ?
shinohai: Hoes are good lol
phf`: on mac when you search for UTC in timezones, the system helpfully offers "UTC - United Kingdom" and sets timezone to GMT. little know fact: great britain switches from GMT to BST, British Summer Time during summer months. welcome to computers!
mod6: onto #5 nao
asciilifeform: neato mod6
mircea_popescu: phf` not that little known, spent half hour trying to syncronize watches with uk resident engineers coupla weeks back
phf`: i'm mostly just find it fascinating how everything is broken in subtle ways
mircea_popescu: lemme tell you a story.
mircea_popescu: so, girl discovered this very promising place. in charge of it, this stunning beauty of an actress/real estate agent. you understand me ? this girl did understand you can't make it as an actress without money, but she didn't go into prostitution, or waitressing, like all others. she got herself real estate firm.
mircea_popescu: she got a nice place on the cheap no doubt -- hey, what else is the point of being in real estate ? -- and spent a year furnishing it into a concept restaurant.
mircea_popescu: she has a kitchen, an art exhibition where a young painter who was not even untalented! was working on his (really, not bad) stuff, a wine whatever, everything.
mircea_popescu: girl does not speak english, did not steal the idea. she came up with it on her own. hired actual actresses for waitstaff, they throw fits and rant around, to the unspeakable confusion of (all other) patrons.
mircea_popescu: pretty sweet set-up, wouldn't you say ?
phf`: it's nifty, i think i've seen variations on the idea, but this sounds like a solid execution
mircea_popescu: ok. now, wanna guess the subtle ways or shall i just say ?
mod6: are the guests somehow integrated into some sort of daily script?
mircea_popescu: mod6 all improv, it's the 2010s after all.
mod6: ahh.
mod6: cool
mircea_popescu: but i belittled and insulted the mousy brunette playing the ocd type, we had a lot of fun.
phf`: i'm not sure how you can subtly fuck up that one
mircea_popescu: 1. the restaurant was unvented. if you went on the loft above of it, you could thouroughly smell it. so would your clothes if you spent enough there -- such as, time for a meal.
mircea_popescu: utterly noob mistake. i've owned restaurants enough to know you build the whole fucking kitchen around the vent, first you put that in then you places the stoves. how's she to know and how's she to guess ?
mircea_popescu: 2. the new-age-y dood handling the wine was offewring wine icecreams. fabulous, really. all vegan, he informed us insistently -- coconut base. they really did taste good.
mircea_popescu: what did he do ?
phf`: opened a bottle, used it a little bit, corked it again, to use again later?
mircea_popescu: lol. no see, he's not fucking braindamaged. he's just excited and means well.
mircea_popescu: he put salt in. chunks, not flakes or anything. i fished out half dozen pea sized rocks of salt.
phf`: ugh, i'm not sure which one's worse
mircea_popescu: i pointed out to him he's not supposed to do that, salt is terrible for your health. he explained it's hymalayan rock salt, has no fluoride, is all good for health.
phf`: ahaha
mircea_popescu: i asked him why he put it in though, he explained "to neutralize the bla bla bla".
mircea_popescu: this is my point, wrapped up : it's not even conspiraci , not in the general sense.
mircea_popescu: it's the well meaning ignorance that conspires to fuck people's shit up.
mircea_popescu: yet another aspect of that endless "your own head is your first and only enemy".
mircea_popescu: subtle flaws, because nobody has any books and the masters all went to boring island and are sitting there fishing all day or i dunno wtf.
phf`: there's too many places to name that fuck up the whole vent thing. there's a small cafe next to my apartment that i can't go to because they don't have exhaust. but i think it's a general "oh we need to cook? i'm going to replicate my mom's kitchen". at least they now all get proper stoves, probably after watching cooking shows where fire goes "woosh" when it's cooking
mircea_popescu: moreover, they get proper stoves because they can't get shitty stoves anywhere.
mircea_popescu: that's where the whole "upgrade or die" software nonsense comes from/
mircea_popescu: if the eu hadn't made it illegal, people'd still drive 1950 cars around the eu. like you know, smog filled paris. what, his car did the smog ?
mircea_popescu: but since bad venting you needn't get anywhere specifically, they still have it.
diana_coman knows people who LIKE the smell/to smell of food; I'm quite sure they know also what hunger means - firsthand as it were, even if in their past rather than present
mircea_popescu: if supermarkets offered the old, hand cranked washing machine, there'd be households with the handcranked washing machine. and blogs dedicated to how it's better. and so forth.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman let's distingush "smell of food" as in ie mp cooks for three and "smell of kitchen", as in, restaurant. it's not the smell of any specific food just like the sewer is not the smell of any specific ass. yes some people like some asses, but that's as far as it goes.
phf`: diana_coman: i think smell of food is different in home kitchen vs industrial kitchen like at a restuarant
phf`: oils and other particles are carried by constant steam, accumulate on surfaces, start catching dust and dirt particles, etc. it's straight up unhygienic.
diana_coman: makes some sense; to me though "smell of food" is fine as long as it's more like flavour of thing on the plate, NOT smell from the kitchen ; those people like that smell from the kitchen; admittedly it's still not industrial so yeah, there is something there
mircea_popescu: yeah. basically it's large scale fat distillation. might as well sit atop a refinery tower.
mircea_popescu: phf` is there a ru equiv of the "ciorba de spalatoare" ro concept ? dishcloth borscht ?
phf`: ahaha, that's a great metaphor. i think somebody, possibly Gogol had some similarly visceral imagery, but i don't remember it as a phrase
mircea_popescu: eyah, somehow teh socialist masquerading as co-op-ist isn't quite prepared for a) his nonsense to be readily identified, "rock soup, rly?" and b) the obvious "just make sure it's not dishcloth borscht" ready counter.
mircea_popescu: i guess somehow the obvious got unhappened in all languages because why would they wanna think of such things!
asciilifeform: hey, americans rediscovered it : dishwasher ( i shit thee not ) fish.
asciilifeform: no, as method of preparation
mircea_popescu: (i have azn friend who likes trying to bother me. feigned surprise at how we here in the decadent west let the toilet water go to waste, when we could raise a koi in there. jsut think alf! millions of toilets! tons of carp!)
mircea_popescu: significantly helped by the fact that carp is, in romanian, crap. literally. you can buy "icre de crap" ie crap roe.
shinohai: That sounds disgusting.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wait, wut ?!
mircea_popescu: shinohai when you realise that's what it does whether in the toilet or not, you will... shit bricks and pellets of fishfood.
asciilifeform: !~google dishwasher fish
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Can You Really Cook Salmon in a Dishwasher ? | Kitchn: <http://www.thekitchn.com/can-you-really-cook-salmon-in-a-dishwasher-putting-tips-to-the-test-in-the-kitchn-218048>; 5 Foods You Can Cook in Your Dishwasher ... if You Dare | HuffPost: <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-stir/dishwasher-cooking_b_3605859.html>; Dishwasher Salmon with a Piquant Dill Sauce Recipe | Bob Blumer ...: (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: oh for fucks sake
phf`: come to think of it the whole exhaust in the kitchen applies to other cases where exhaust is mandatory: i like the small of soldering rosin or the smell of freshly sawed wood, but i wouldn't want to spend much time in a workshop that doesn't have an exhaust. and you have similar failure mode: "come all to work on projects!" hackerspaces notoriously don't have exhaust
mircea_popescu: dude, who the fuck cooks salmon in the first place.
asciilifeform: phf`: laser cutter is absolute champ in this regard. 'smells like fireplace, like home!' and then somebody puts in plastic sheet...
mircea_popescu: vinyl hopefully
asciilifeform: gasenwagen, hcn
asciilifeform: and goodbye to the - 500 $ - optics
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << for the record there's ~nothing there. "oh, project rife with the kind of complex math". save me rwanda, they're gonna dekulakize math now.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 11:25 shinohai: http://archive.is/Jb2jR <<< /me is sorry for your loss
mircea_popescu: While the documents describes an incredibly powerful code-breaking project, according to what hacker and computer researcher Andrew "Bunnie" Huang told The Intercept, if you're using the latest encryption, you don't have anything to worry about. "Even if [WindsorGreen] gave a 100x advantage in cracking strength, it's a pittance compared to the additional strength conferred by going from say, 1024-bit RSA to 4096-bit RSA or go
mircea_popescu: ing from SHA-1 to SHA-256."At least when it comes to this venture. Who knows what's currently being developed?
mircea_popescu: who even writes this obscurantist claptrap ?
asciilifeform: same folx who find nsa dox and hide'em
mircea_popescu: eh get out.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655122 << so what, they're going to hide a gassed wine cellar in the guy's immediate proximity for 6 months ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 13:24 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655107 << Rn, the most common unstable gas, kills quite slowly. the comicsl phrasing is really artifact of kr lang
asciilifeform: Rn has no smell
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655128 << eh get out, he'd have to have 5k tooth pulled.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 13:27 asciilifeform: then dies of hugochavez a year or so later.
asciilifeform: pit in his air conditioning etc
mircea_popescu: yes, but you will need grams not micrograms of the stuff.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect you are thinking of ~natural~ Rn concentration
mircea_popescu: pure pressurized rn container is a handling hazard.
asciilifeform: which is, yes, a 'decades' death
asciilifeform: hey, phosgen is also 'handling hazard'
asciilifeform: so wat.
mircea_popescu: yes well i don't see that many phosgene to ac unit cia goons out there combing the streets.
asciilifeform: see many other kinds ?
mircea_popescu: you put it on the dood's ac, for all you know you cure his coloitis and little girl next door delivers twin puppies.
asciilifeform: year ain't 1940, we know what alpha in lung does.
mircea_popescu: we know what it might do.
mircea_popescu: some people -- immune. most people -- lucky.
asciilifeform: nobody immune, lol. no more than to bullet.
mircea_popescu: even to that, there's the occasional mobster walking away from gunfight with dozen holes in hide.
mircea_popescu: o hey check it out, angelo musitano bit it last week.
asciilifeform: try1x10^12 little holes.
asciilifeform: in dna.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655211 << incidentally there is no particular reason why that particular 'acre of cray' couldn't be the nsa mining farm.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-12 15:14 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-12#1655115 << for the record there's ~nothing there. "oh, project rife with the kind of complex math". save me rwanda, they're gonna dekulakize math now.
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/dHG0g >> '56MB... dram per asic' << seems like they hedged, 'what if litecoin wins', lol
asciilifeform: ( leaked slide circa 2014 )
mircea_popescu: eh, tjwatson.
mircea_popescu: wtf is that "us citizens only" bs anyway.
asciilifeform: ad hoc classification marking ( private corp in usa does not use official ones when not working in Official compartment )
asciilifeform: analogous to 'official use only' usg marking.
mircea_popescu: ~equivalent to tumblr ho scribbling "for hot males only" on her snatch pix. rly ?
asciilifeform: all it means is that leak is in breach of nda, but not seekrits act (or whatever they called it)
asciilifeform: and that (theoretically) any middle manager who hooks up indian slave to $project, is to be sacked
mircea_popescu: what, they give usians a nda to sign at birth, along with all the ssn papers and whatnot ?
asciilifeform: ibm employees, presumably
asciilifeform: thing was purportedly an internal doc.
mircea_popescu: lmao, wait, wait, they dun want any actually productive zeks touching it ?
mircea_popescu: wtf, the "this will never be finished" designation ?
asciilifeform: aryans only!!
asciilifeform: fwiw, unlike 20yrs ago, ~everyone who slaves in these corps is citizen, they made it very easy to get
mircea_popescu: course, everyone who is citizen has little interest to actually put in any work, can jsut get the freebies and coast.
asciilifeform: ~all you need is to hang around in usa for 5y, and not in jail
mircea_popescu: ~same as argentina.
asciilifeform: ( in contrast with, e.g., jp, or ch, where you gotta get letters of introduction, endorsement from president, etc. ritual )
asciilifeform: ( in usa you can also pay $maxint and get passport same day. but not really applicable to workerbees. )
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, apparently the last foreigner to obtain chinese citizenship was some russian broad in 1964
a111: Logged on 2014-06-19 02:30 asciilifeform: chinese 'WoT' (like in other asian nations) is very heavily tilted in direction of blood relation
phf`: got spam that might appeal to both BingoBoingo and danielpbarron http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tYQ0o/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: aand in other lulz : local kid superstore sells slingshots in valupacks.
asciilifeform: lol of what are they made ? sugar ?
asciilifeform: such that kid needs >1
mircea_popescu: pvc, looks like.
mircea_popescu: but kid needs >1 for the obvious reason.
asciilifeform: also whoever heard of kid ~buying~ slingshot
asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu ever ~buy~ his ?
mircea_popescu: well there is that.
mircea_popescu: what we did was inflitrate army depot, cut off rubber belts off gas masks, attach to wood Y.
mircea_popescu: epic slingshots, prolly drew 50N
asciilifeform: asciilifeform had rubber from tourniquets ( medical folx in family, had ~infinite supply )
mircea_popescu: anyway, reason i didn't buy is because the commies didn't sell. otherwise -- money, had.
asciilifeform: imho boy oughta make things with own hands, when possible
mircea_popescu: tourniquet'd have prolly been even better. that thick orange-ish tube huh ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not so. if you do with own hands whenever possible, how are you to ever meet any girls ?
asciilifeform: 'measure in all things' (tm)(r)
asciilifeform: and yes the orange tube.
pete_dushenski: 999.995 kb block mined by f2pool at heigh 466100. tight fit.
asciilifeform: quite a few of these, pete_dushenski
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: 998 and 999.9, yes.
asciilifeform: lol in what camp are there white chix.
mircea_popescu: oh right.
BingoBoingo: phf`: ty
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: ty
mircea_popescu: in other things the world was not ready for, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4oYO13ezHI
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/fiat-ram-trucks-may-smash-their-operators/ << Qntra - Fiat Ram Trucks May Smash Their Operators
phf`: i have a very what's the word straight? romanian coworker. i like to periodically send some of the things i glean through mircea_popescu about romanian this guy's way. just to watch his reaction.
mircea_popescu: there is no romanian in there, though. fat guy is a popular gypsy singer, the ~only actual word in his speech would be "carolina" which is only romanian inasmuch "o iubesc pe carolina, e o fata din carpati, are ochii ca si marea si-i frumoasa ca o stea, o carolina lina lina carolina cha cha cha" etc 30 yo kid rhymes.
phf`: apparently something called manele. i was wondering why it sounded vaguely iranian, vaguely turkish
mircea_popescu: ~because it is.
mircea_popescu: but, since we're doing romanian gypsies : here's what the equivalent of that us army strategist dude has to say about things and matters : http://earonovich.blogspot.com/ ( http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~eddiea/ )
mircea_popescu: anyone recall the dude ? square jawed dork, committed some amusing points re "interdicting uninterdictable comms" and other "us army ra ra ra!!" lulz.
phf`: i'm going to play this at the office, to confuse both romanians and the iranians https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLSZ-K0kog
asciilifeform: dafuq is that nonsense
asciilifeform: ~contentfree
mircea_popescu: this is how the civillians think, alfie.
asciilifeform: think?!
asciilifeform: i can't distinguish subj from shannonizer output
mircea_popescu: phf` tbh, there are two items very popular in mp household. 1 is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-unZ6sUEio the other's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ulinu-_FYc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet he's ~in charge of the idf sikrit projects to maff and stuff.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: american tradition -- generals who can't count to 7, even moar 'in charge' aha
mircea_popescu: not a general. check out his tau homepage, even has pic.
asciilifeform: 1 level below : are found the folx who can count.
mircea_popescu: phf` your evidently good taste ensures you'll make friends fast in bucharest! bamboo awaits you!
asciilifeform: !#s chowdhry
asciilifeform: ^ the prototype for these
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the dude's not even stupid. but this notion that not being stupid suffices to think is not unlike the notion that... well... everything else.
phf`: i'm not even sure my office is ready for this. i kind of want to open a hookah bar with really bad rail drinks and bottle service just so that i can play that stuff on TVs
mircea_popescu: eh, why'd you open something in shittyland. come to cr, open here.
mircea_popescu: o hey check it out, "rakata" actually caught lexical value somehow.
phf`: it's like a mixture of all the oh-i-remember-this-was-popular chav styles from across the world
phf`: *genres
mircea_popescu: the reason being that there's a whole troop of intellectuals who missed their web development calling and instead of sitting on compuer all day checking out what's new in rust they just collate crap from across the youtube.
mircea_popescu: the piine si pizda crew.
mircea_popescu: very much 90s/2000s item though. the following generation found the normal path to ibm alcatel oracle etc.
mircea_popescu: phf` fwiw styles is actually right. arguaby chavery is a genre.
mircea_popescu: ou sont les mantas d'antan!
phf`: ahaha, computer has been taken over, girl learned a new dance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5VqQjVExTU
mircea_popescu: what is, goat flapper ?
mircea_popescu: the lyrics include gems such as "so the whole world sees you're the most unique" &c
mircea_popescu: uniquated, i guess. what he says dun actually exist.
mircea_popescu: there's also something about 1k hp producing a lot of pleasure or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: 3/4 mw, imagine the old fart.
ben_vulpes: god bless mandatory minimums. incarcerate 'em all and let dementia sort 'em out.
mircea_popescu: prisons have this very interesting fermentive effect for democracies. basically, it's easy enough to pretend like "our democracy" while the bread's still flowing ; once that stops, as it always does -- suddenly it's impossible for the "our democracy" pretense to insulate itself from the authoritatian restructuring the prison drives into society.
mircea_popescu: maintaining "our democracy" compatible prisons is too expensive ; not maitaining them produces the sops problem, which is a surer "democracy" solvent than austrian painters named adolf.
mircea_popescu: and yes, "democracy" is in quotes because it has no substance, can at most ever be a varnish and no more.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i won't be surprised if the prisoners become 'pioneering volunteers' for 'assisted suicide'
asciilifeform: though so far even this obvious pill is ,in typical usg style, being done in reverse -- srsly, they banned smoking in prison!
asciilifeform: ( iirc one d00d even sued, declaring that this ban amounted to an extrajudicial prolongation of his sentence. but unsurprisingly 0 result )
asciilifeform: 'The Japanese government is considering providing state-backed aid to Toshiba’s memory business, amounting to near partial nationalisation, to prevent it falling into Chinese or South Korean hands...'
mircea_popescu gets a "heh" card
asciilifeform slowly ironing the ugly out of 'P' stack machine
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