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deedbot: ser voiced for 30 minutes.
ser: i'm just a silent reader
ser: an architect. he is dying at the moment
ser: because of tobacco addiction
ser: i told him to quit dozens years ago
ser: especially such stupid one
BingoBoingo: It's easy to become powerless over nicotine, but very hard to see how it makes life unmanageable until the end.
ser: it's like taking a 140y mortgage :)
deedbot: ser voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: Nah, for most people if you get a low interest rate 140 year mortgage is great. Very low payments.
ser: but grandchildren are not being asked if they like it, as they are usually unborn
BingoBoingo: Grandchildren get it even better because inflation. Movie tickets used to cost a nickle!
ser: swedish parliament recently limited mortgages to 105 years maximum only
BingoBoingo: That's only six years longer than "traditional" maximum lease!
ser: Royal Bank of Scotland did not pass "stress tests" whaterver it means
ser: what is your estimation - how much money is lacking?
ser: XX billions, XXX billions, XXXX billions?
ben_vulpes: there are only 21 million bitcoin, so if they're that short they may be in a bit of a tight spot
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> diana_coman for some reason it decided i'm anonymous lol. <- fixed; weird though, as I can't seem to be able to reproduce whatever the issue was
Framedragger: random question: have there been considerations for introducing financial instruments to eulora at some point, for trade etc? just curious
diana_coman: Framedragger, you are probably better off searching the logs of the eulora channel
diana_coman: I vaguely recall some discussion touching a bit on that
mircea_popescu: diana_coman issue might have been my accidentally leaving field empty.
mircea_popescu: ser> what is your estimation - how much money is lacking? << more than exists, basically.
mircea_popescu: ie, if the govt prints ten times what rbs has and gives it to them, it will improve nothing, just increase the "how much more they need" by a factor of tenish.
mircea_popescu has the pleasure to introduce EDLionX , who's chinese, lives in brunei and looks altogether like a great kid (though he isn't a kid!)
diana_coman is waiting for BingoBoingo to ask "who's your daddy?"
mircea_popescu: not right now, but occasionally there's news items that get poorly translated to en by idiots
mircea_popescu: actually BingoBoingo what was that thing vaguely mentioned on qntra recently ?
mircea_popescu: i thought they gamified with the "loic" thing a decade ago
a111: Logged on 2016-11-29 16:50 asciilifeform: anyway, i have neither the time (presently grunting out a much-delayed and urgent item) nor inclination to do the entire backlog (what, 800 of these?! by now) by hand.
mircea_popescu: Framedragger he's an english/math teacher not a coder from what i gather.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: no coding really needed, mind you! at least not for this 'phase' of analysis. but ya sure
EDLionX: oh hey yeah Frame, no offense, but you just completely assblasted me
Framedragger: hmm, a rather visual answer, fair nuff :p well, glory awaits someone!
mircea_popescu: Framedragger really, shouldn't just run the scan on port 80 ?
Framedragger: the particular scanner used for extracting pubkeys is not meant for that kind of stuff, but.. the first phase thing ("check who's alive") can grab banners, yeah.. would require fiddling (connections would become stateful, right now first phase uses 'SYN cookies') but ya sure possible
Framedragger: i guess i should rerun the scanner at some point at any rate
mircea_popescu: i suppose even something as simple as curl $item would work really huh.
Framedragger: for some initial additional data, i think so yeah..
Framedragger: (ah. suresure. well if one plans to do that on millions of machines or more, better to use simple tcp sockets hm. say that masscan for 1st phase uses its own tcp stack to not exhaust kernel handles accidentally, etc...)
mircea_popescu: afaik the phuctor list is like 1k or so ips by now no ?
Framedragger just made a shitty .ru joke and is very proud of it
diana_coman: bwahahhaa; when we were made pioneers we had this picture by the flag thing
diana_coman: clearly, yes; tbh I had this uneasy feeling of totally back to the 80's when I went to Belarus some ...hm, 7 years ago already
diana_coman: but I don't expect it really changed all that much either
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> actually BingoBoingo what was that thing vaguely mentioned on qntra recently ? << You'd have to be a bit more specific
mircea_popescu: there was some badly translated "proceeds of miner conference" sometime earlier this year
a111: Logged on 2015-03-03 01:48 BingoBoingo: So... Anyone here know chinese? Good enought to translate a Hand complete police report?
mircea_popescu: it seems credible to me qualitatively ; quantitatively i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: because the emperor is ; in traditionalist societies existence is predicated on existence.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would cunt lubricate to ease penile intromission ?
mircea_popescu: fuck i love this article. "Deci, ce probleme rezolva ecologia ? Niciunele. Ecologia se bucura insa de sprijinul institutional al statului ca justificare persuasiva si credibila a nevoii de-a reechilibra administrativ dezechilibre economice induse administrativ. Tot aceleasi probleme pe care le rezolva si psihologia," -> "So, what problems does ecology resolve ? No problems. Ecology simply enjoys institutional support of the [
mircea_popescu: socialist] state as a persuasive and credible justification for the need to rebalance administratively imbalances induced administratively. same exact problems psychology resolves."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not really. ru peasant aslo thought emperor is good ; and right here.
mircea_popescu: this "what care i" is very much a proposal to modulate behaviour ; whereas this active diatesis is not there contemplated.
phf: not quite true, you had лжецаревич uprisings
phf: also kind of tru re famine, but typically boyars were blamed rather then tzar or barin
phf: since both were beyond reprise
mircea_popescu: phf you did ; nevertheless - in the case of those runaways who were discovered in the 60s after however many centuries of absence, what figured greatly was that a) the tsar is good and b) that woe on random anon merchant for refusing to donate a quarter ton of potatoes to the cause.
phf: no, no, i'm saying the opposite. ~barin~ in this case is the dude who worked you to the bone
mircea_popescu: and the fake ivans etc are not exactly attacks on the tsar ; they're just a discussion of identity , not actually a modernisation proposal.
mircea_popescu: similar to the whole "mandate ofheaven" chinese thing - IS he or ISN'T he the "one true emperor" ; whether his being anything in particular matters with regards to "his job" ie, what he has to do is not discussed. even the notion that emperorhood is a job is nonsensical in context.
phf: i think i'm being misunderstood. i'm saying that fake-tzars were cases of "emperor asking of you", because both tzar and barin (i.e. immediate supervisor) were seen as fundamental good. peasants consistently and historically allocated blame on various random hangerons. boyars, traders, foreigners, etc. in fact in fake-tzar cases the narrative was consistent "evil boyars have deposed our tzar-father and we won't stand for it"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're only semantic games to you ; for they to be games they need the optionality.
mircea_popescu: hence the "useful evil minister" strategy deployed in england and france as well as everywhere else - get the guy to do things then behead him.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if i give you a lined mat and a pile of all black tiles you thereby "still have a game of go" ?
mircea_popescu frequently requires better go players to play very fast and train for it in advance.
mircea_popescu: just because i can't keep up with the horse doesn't mean it won't get its exercise. we have mechanics!
mircea_popescu: no, my idea simply was "explore all the trees for my convenience".
mircea_popescu: getting back to the modern/traditional thing : there's a very visible and practically relevant distinction in trade. when i hire a modernist, i hire him to do a job, and i expect him to do a job. but when i hire a traditionalist, i am essentially assigning office. and as it is LOGICAL in that context, he may agree to any "job" specification ie burdens on the title before he gets it, while all he IS is humble applicant ; but o
mircea_popescu: nce he gets it, once he IS the job title, then of course he finds himself in a more elevated position, which should mean by his logic that he gets to renegotiate and eliminate some of the burdens.
mircea_popescu: which is exactly why simple minded folks in third countries such as argentina etc display the strange behaviour where they don't wish to actually work, first discussed in the article about whores
mircea_popescu: aha. HOWEVER - which is why i bring all this up - the reversal is fucking evident here too.
mircea_popescu: see, when I hire diana_coman to do dev work for eulora, OF FUCKING COURSE she gets to redefine the job on the basis of the title. because before she got it she hadn't seen the code, and after she had, for instance. or for any other reason.
mircea_popescu: in short, in the entirety of the observable universe, we are reverting to traditionalist systems, approaches and altogether a reality.
mircea_popescu: most computing jobs are unspecifiable in the terms most industrial jobs of the brief modernist interlude were specifiable.
mircea_popescu: whereas most computing jobs require identity in terms entirely impossible in the brief modernist interlude. what cares the cotton ginny whether you are white or black skinned ?
mircea_popescu: and this is what all the unicode wastage is : they, the lost souls of a dead world, are trying to make computers more like cotton ginnies. more inclusive, more capable to work with a modernist perspective, where who dun matter and what is considered.
mircea_popescu: fundamental myth of english feudalism is a sword that cared.
mircea_popescu: fundamental myth of english modernism is "blind love", which, if you'll notice, is at the time of its introduction a very cheap trick very much in the manner of protestantism ; and also a mythical beast :
mircea_popescu: the belgian woman from before. "blind" as in, no who just what. a modernist unicorn.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pygmystan is not actually a culture ; stone age tribes don't get names.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform iron age is ~norman conquest. industrial age is a different thing.
mircea_popescu: except there is no "work" in the abstract, as a byproduct of anti-idlehandsaredevilswork. not anymore.
mircea_popescu: back in 1616 there was a "do something - anything". today that results in github.
mircea_popescu: and not just in github, it results in 5bn for BART's 16 track miles and in 12mn/year for 1bn database for microsoft.
mircea_popescu: the Floating Littoral Embarassment is very much the symbolic product of "technology by modernist means in postmodernist times"
mircea_popescu: there are a number of reasons for this. 1. robots eat electricity ; humans eat a sort of oil derivate ; see
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-05#1577962 ; 2. robots are an industrial product, this costs ~nothing while "well brainwashed humans" are the equivalent of a "well behaved wife". tell you what, here's a half billion girlies in your "civilised world", you have a week to find a wife. let me know what you spent.
mircea_popescu: i suspect i might've talked to more industrial robots folks than you have over our respective careers, but be that as it may, the trend is towards not away job destruction.
mircea_popescu: the welfarization creates nothing. it is the maggot on the corpse of postmodern industry.
mircea_popescu: (kinda yet another angle of why the great again is so lulzy - what, economic trends will reverse by election ?)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no ; because modernism hadn't ended yet. but the chick herself - if she weren't twerking she'd be on reddit . there is literally NOTHING for her to do.
mircea_popescu: with the exception of tmsr, there is NO PLACE in this world which sticks to the modern tradition of, "random bozo walks in, is given a job"
mircea_popescu: this is how eg construction yards used to work, for milennia. not anymore, for decades now.
mircea_popescu: amusingly - i used to call plumbers in places where plumbing had been laid by hand. but in places where plumbing laid by robot - no need so far.
mircea_popescu: dat old ecosystem drives itself by supporting its niches and denying competing niches thing.
mircea_popescu: you are aware "car fixing" ie, "that is my idea of heaven - a bucket o' grease and a cracked cylinder" now consists of sticking probes in dataports ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, plumbing mostly comes as part of the prefab components of construction nowadays. is not separate thing.
mircea_popescu: "robots" does not strictly mean r2d2. entirely automated process chain is also a robot in this sense, even if perhaps a meta-robot for they preoccupied with the physicality of things.
mircea_popescu: ie - the visually driven notion of "robot" as "anthropomorphised tuna can" is not particularly useful in a discussion of economics and robots.
mircea_popescu: heh. laugh all you want, and take refuge in 1970s artworks if you will - but the fact remains that if you buy planks you buy planks but if you buy ikea you buy robotized planks.
mircea_popescu: it's what it is, out of the final table in the latter case about 2/3 is robot work.
mircea_popescu: yes, there isn't a beep-boop thing going around your livingroom. but it might as well be - the warehouse is entirely robotized ; the production line mostly ; etcetera. even driving is going away.
mircea_popescu: do you know how many longshoremen work for amazon ? o wait ... the name is entirely antiquated.
mircea_popescu: sure, but tell you what : the headaches of managing herd would be a lot closer in your mind had you i dunno, been a mcdonalds manager in your late teens.
mircea_popescu: there's no economic future for the average human, quite literally.
mircea_popescu: for as long as we still feel like entertaining ourselves by providing them with food and board, the derpage will last. and they'll "put women back into history at the call of bbc wikipedia.
mircea_popescu: once that becomes old, they'll become dead, in a very starved and cold sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: anyway - the original point was how the environment changed, and modernism is strictly no longer possible because exogenous reasons, not opened to consensusing electoralizing etc.
mircea_popescu: the WHO is the major consideration ; the what is relatively equivalent.
mircea_popescu: which reduces to and is in fact equivalent with the "no economic future for average human" above, and with the "there's nothing one can do on the simple basis of being one" even further above.
mircea_popescu: (o look! the separation of the fat from the water in the sense of leaving the who-equivalent modernists behind in the gutter is actually quite the viscerally ferocious thing!)
mircea_popescu: nobody is going to forbid modernism. they who wish to feel equal will have a place where this is how things works.
mircea_popescu: (arguably this is also in the past - not like i'm actually forbidding redditards to reddit, even as i am squeezing the cream from the thing)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-08 14:44 mircea_popescu has the pleasure to introduce EDLionX , who's chinese, lives in brunei and looks altogether like a great kid (though he isn't a kid!)
mircea_popescu: eulora, with its steep learning curve and well engineered intake manifolds is actually a muchly improved bitcoin from THIS perspective.
mircea_popescu: still, the question was "how who" not "how non-who". that your milk contains fat and water is not a valid objection to "how do you get fat from the cow ?" "you milk it"
mircea_popescu: and i am entirely unconvinced by this "good at x" bs. nobody's "good at x". the "good at x" is nonsense of the ilk and period of "blind love", to try and help the wedge of who-equivalency into the trunk of reality.
mircea_popescu: either your brain works or doesn't. if it does, you can use it for all brain things, much like either your cunt works or doesn't, and if it does it does for all dicks.
mircea_popescu: there's no "good at math" anymore than there is "white dicks cunt"
mircea_popescu: i also didn't see meat airplane borne out of the soviet maternity circuit. this proves something ?
trinque: and that a brain works does not mean that the requisite information for a particular has yet been jammed in.
mircea_popescu: "this cpu could do anything" "i don't see your sql server doing any dos emulation work" "nigga... wut ?!"
mircea_popescu: laugh, but they very pointedly picked former approach.
mircea_popescu: there was entirely no "picking" in romania, the romania that produced the first full 10 olympic gymnasts. hundreds of thousands of kids ran into thousands of pe teachers who very pointedly "body works to it - now make it work to jump!"
mircea_popescu: the "nfl picks" usian system seemed very alien, and quite frankly wasteful, to the general mind. "americans will never amount to anything in sports" therefore.
mircea_popescu: of course, this was in a time of general conscription and so forth. obviously things have changed - it is easier after all.
mircea_popescu: and no, i have no argument - it is EASIER to think of yourself as "i am good at x" raqther than "brain works or doesn't work."
mircea_popescu: now THAT easy-seeking habituation is what the hot irons are used for.
mircea_popescu: i personally prefer the "here's the book pile, go read whatever ; do something"
mircea_popescu: if you feel like anything good ; and if you feel like nothing in particular reddit's that way.
mircea_popescu: but by all means, if you, trinque or anyone else feels like running su airpilot style court, your right and priviledge. i'm sure it'll work just fine.
mircea_popescu: it's not like preference's forbidden or anything. i'm sure i'd be great at fucking dudes, too, i never fucked any nevertheless.
mircea_popescu: the point is, that "i would suck at fucking dudes" is a very poor excuse and entirely rotten pillar of identity.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine that whoever wanted to get in couldn't at least try.
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the cost of failure ? is it some sort of "oh, i can't go talk to the girl in the bar" sort of crazy ?
mircea_popescu: why would there be a THE HOUSE ? i don't subscribne to "let's all go to the same shitty island and make a georepublic" ima have a the house ?
mircea_popescu: so she burns down some apartment. the firepeople will put it out, the insurance people will pay for it and i guess the police people will take her to the doctorpeople or w/e.
mircea_popescu: or if they don't because society broke down, i guess my guardpeople shoot her and throw the body to the dogs. either way.
mircea_popescu: as in, picked off the streets because anybody can anything and selected for certain attributes.
mircea_popescu: what, i'ma only hire x school graduates like obama ? wtf am i , stupid.
mircea_popescu: how would i elaborate, you'e the one who's stumped. you elaborate.
mircea_popescu: they usually don't walk the streets, being selected for a sort of pretentious lazyness, but anyway.
mircea_popescu has walked out of numerous meetings etc, often offended, but never participated into SUCH INSANITY wtf.
mircea_popescu: dude i have nfi. because they're used to hiring camwhores ?
mircea_popescu: yes but i guess they can't be arsed to deal with stuck in traffic peon / having to physically go to the peon pen etc
mircea_popescu: i guess the dude was just "getting his identity confirmed" or w/e KYC stuff.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, my selection-for-obedience process doesn't also select for comatose mental state simultaneously.
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
mats: merp. friendo typed in my window
trinque charitably assumes it was a chick blowing kisses at the Republic
trinque: As Iraqi forces advanced toward the al-Salam hospital in Mosul earlier this week, encountering only light resistance from Islamic State fighters, commanders decided to seize the facility instead of sweeping the neighborhoods along the road leading to it.
phf: "The company will mold you to their exacting specifications to do whatever form of service they require. You will happily comply, in this as in all things. For example, if your company needs a Java-speaking systems engineer and you have a degree in Art History, this is not a problem because you can be fixed."
phf: "Sure it might take ten years and only work on a quarter of the new hires but that’s why we employ you for 45 years and hire a hundred at once!"
BingoBoingo: In other customer complaints: "Bought a weed and grass killer. Used it according to instructions and it killed a linden tree and many plants. Ace does not seem to be responsible and turned me over to a David at spectrum who admitted that their product does damage."
mircea_popescu: lol! dat "he got everything wrong but the subject is interesting".
phf: well, i suspect he's got his facts right, but the commentary is dodgy
mircea_popescu: like "fish, delicious and healthy!" label on a caserole in the discount yesterday's icebox.
pete_dushenski: or sign on car rotting on mechanic's lot : "needs work to get running but a smooth driver!"
phf: look, the margins are thin and the fish gotta go, you buying or what
phf: is buenos aires like istanbul, street cat culture?
mircea_popescu: not quite, lots of dogs being tortured on small terraces, apartments, 3sq feet of concrete behind bars (srsly, pair of dogs, COULDNT EVEN STRETCH OUT!).
phf: somehow makes total sense from all the other argentina points
mircea_popescu: and this nation, that to my knowledge has furthest perfected the art of pointlessly but with extreme callous cruelty torturing man's oldest and best friend, nevertheless considers itself full of dog lovers.
mircea_popescu: they actually say this, "i'm a dog lover". then you meet the dog, and the general effect is "i love kids" guy with a fridge full of kid parts.
mircea_popescu: in other news, i'm enjoying reading this kalzumeus piece on japanese culture. it's like japan consists of the 1950s mob.
ben_vulpes: oh, it's mckenzie's turn huh? how'd he escape the eye of sauron for so long?
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 00:55 mircea_popescu does exactly this on occasion, feeds cats.
mircea_popescu: " about: THOMAS H. PTACEK hopes, by strict attention to business, combined with moderate charges, to merit a fair share of patronage and support."
mircea_popescu: "Ones actual salary as a salaryman is generally rather low about $100 per year of age per month, as an engineer in Nagoya (set by a particular monopsonistic engineering employer near Nagoya). In Tokyo, my sense of the market is that, as an intermediate engineer in his early thirties, Id probably command somewhere between $30k and $60k. (In Silicon Valley, the going rate would be somewhere between $120k and $160k and
mircea_popescu: this is like saying that your "sense of the market" indicates that as an intermediate starlet in her 30s you'd probably command between 1 and 3 mn pa because hey, that's what bravo/seveteen/cosmo/whatever said christina applegate was making at some point in 2006 when she was 32 and was doing three different things.
mircea_popescu: except she is "intermediate" among the people actually making money ; not among the people aspiring to be used, which is still not the same as making money. you could just as well say tom cook is an intermediate manager (in the sense that bezos is clearly better and whoever they have at microsoft, that indian fellow, clearly worse), so you figure ten years after getting your degree from ohio state business school you'll be pu
mircea_popescu: "When I met her mother for the first time, I brought my resume and tax returns. Her mother was not 100% keen on the match when we started dating, as a combination of foreigner and not gainfully employed suggested that I was not exactly marriage material, but I eventually won her over."
mircea_popescu: how does this dude expect to be taken seriously, by anyone, like ever ?
mircea_popescu: da fuck, empowering old women, wtf is this. whatever happened to bitch, if you talk out of line i'll burn you alive.
mod6: yeah, srsly. "here's my tax returns." wat?!
mircea_popescu: mod6 and these are the dorks who go "oh, midwest, flyover zone". really ? flyover zone for what, your ballsac in a sling ?
pete_dushenski: respect for elders in jp folx is like fried chicken for blacks - goes hand-in-hand
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski respect for the elders is predicated upon the stable basis of them elders having earned enough life experience to know better than getting in my way.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: only for values of 'my way' that resolve to mircea_popescu and similar, which'd be rare enough to mostly ignore in jp. or else, sure, in a world where ol' ladies be gettin' torched leftrightandcentre, gramma opens the door for you, not the other way around.
phf: that's what i'm saying though, these are like nifty anthropological studies by very inept anthropologists. you learn more about the author, than...
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski all the warning signs are there. to wit : "(The hypothesis was advanced, more than once, that as a foreigner who routinely travels abroad, speaks Spanish, and has money without any evidence of gainful employment, I was probably a drug dealer. I wish I were joking.)"
mircea_popescu: now, it is true that you don't have to deal drugs to accumulate power ; nor because you accumulated it. but it is supremely unwise to imagine one's not going to crack a few skulls if it comes to it.
pete_dushenski: phf: the authors aren't highly cultured and esteemed envoys from foreign lands, they're just... regular blokes.
mircea_popescu: would you think an elder who ineptly harasses a drug dealer is particularly respectable ?
pete_dushenski: ofc not, so 'drug dealer' is obv a snide remark, not actually positied theory
mircea_popescu: ~if i am~ a drug dealer and i burn down your house, you'll what ? file a police report ? go on the local news network with a teary eyed "no one could have predicted that if i get pissy with people who break the law for a living i might end up with a burned down house" ?
pete_dushenski: apparently the 'big city' of tokyo or wherever isn't part of the jp where triads ARE the law, financiers, drug dealers, etc etc.
phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
mircea_popescu notes for the record that in 1916, man considering the mitzvah of accepting a cunt in his household was given money, and no insignificant portion thereof, by the ever-delighted parents.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck these "men" have managed to turn that into the above quote in one short century is anyone's guess.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: this hasn't changed in 100 years, but still depends ~where~ we're discussing.
pete_dushenski: father-in-laws can be, and in my fortunate experience are, still grateful sobs
mircea_popescu: one time, the dad of this chick (/me is very old school, always insisted in meeting the parents of all molls) asked me if i have serious intentions. so i asked him if she's a virgin.
pete_dushenski guesses that quantity of honey depends on the degree of f-i-l's personal means, how many girls he's burdened with, and how much of a stud the s-i-l is.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol. good comeback. and yes, gotta meet parents, ideally even before formal courtship begins or else within first two weeks of commencement.
mircea_popescu: here, too, on coupla of occasion took girl over sunday noon that i had met saturday night at bdsm club no less. resulting in some appropriately spooked parents.
pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on.
mircea_popescu: i thought you lived in something that passes for urban center in the frozen wastes ?
pete_dushenski: this is where i sheepishly admit that there could be one across the street but that i've not yet encountered anyone who's admitted to knowledge of its whereabouts. though given that 'edmonton ab' showed up on a few of the fetlife meatlist, you sorta have to figure there must be ~something~ of the sort in a town >1mn pop.
mircea_popescu: a munch is generally just dicking around a food court, child safe sort of events.
mircea_popescu: course seems the last for the year was o wait, you have one on 14th.
mircea_popescu: this tiny may bug like creature is having the time of its life over on the db in jp monitor. i've never seen one so happy.
mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.
mircea_popescu: am i nuts or something ? wtf "I think Fizz-Buzz is "hard" for some programmers because (#1) it doesn't fit into any of the patterns that were given to them in school assignments, and (#2) it isn't possible to directly and simply represent the necessary tests, without duplication, in just about any commonly-used modern programming language." (as per
http://wiki.c2.com/?FizzBuzzTest )
mircea_popescu: one of these is going to turn out to be whatever supersecret bullshit someone put online because idiots and everyone's going to lose their shit.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 02:30 mircea_popescu: i don't get this fizzbuzz thing. someone explain it to me ? for i from 1 to 100 do if i is divisible by 3 j+="Fizz" ; if i is divisible by 5 j+="Buzz" if j is null j = i print j.
mircea_popescu: but what i specifically take issue with is the claim that "There is no clear way in any languages". what the heck ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform should probably poop more often
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:47 phf: pete_dushenski: sure, but my comment stands. when you read travel diaries in general they all have the same format, it's just this particular one reads like "in my country of Kazakhstan we shoot dog, i couldn't find any places to shoot dogs in so called civilized england"
mircea_popescu: holy shit! the page itself claims there is a simple structure... BUt ONLY FOR LISP
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit, "use separate variable, test the number test variable if empty" can be written in fucking bash.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-09 01:55 pete_dushenski would very much one day like to see what these bdsm clubs are all about, preferably with mircea_popescu as guide, for he presently has nfi what he's missing out on.
a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 16:58 asciilifeform: (at a recent hellhole where asciilifeform worked, they marched in folx with perfect marks, many magister degrees in 'sciences', etc., who COULD NOT PROGRAM)
mircea_popescu: srsly now. can they stock their pantry, these people ?
ben_vulpes: us degrees are worse than worthless, they're an actual burden. holders generally have such an inflated opinion of themselves and blown up cashflow needs due to student loans they're nigh unemployable.
ben_vulpes: and the old folks who bear them, occasionally as well.
ben_vulpes: the lifetime of coddling doesn't make managing them any easier either.
mircea_popescu: old folks as in bio age i usually have an easy enough time with ; young folks who aspire to be employed however are aged beyond their age, like touched by the fucking vorlons.
mircea_popescu: i actually told a 29 yo "i know a guy who's 92 and a lot more flexible than you".
mircea_popescu: well no, i've never had the pleasure of hiring for the army.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (i suspect we may be talking at cross purposes)
mircea_popescu: ah. the inflexible 29 yo had this very obnoxious penchant for trying to restate any problem in specific terms as per his textbook.
mircea_popescu: needless to say this produced "correct" responses through the insufferable avenue of missing out on the problem.
mircea_popescu: from what i heard from all other shops, they do. it's like asking why has superluminous tachyon decided to bless your apparatus.
mircea_popescu: "For example, when I first came to Japan, I had no computer. I also had no money, because the plane ticket and setting up my household ate all of my savings. In America, this isnt a barrier to getting a computer, because Dell will do a quick FICO score on you and then happily extend you $2,000 of trade credit."
mircea_popescu: for the love of all that's holy. who does this ? WHO ?
mircea_popescu: the approximate equivalent of "umm... hi fortified city, here is my siege. i... uhhh... i ate all the horses on the way over. and burned the trebuchets. surrender now ?"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was living under the impression that i am reading the faits d'armes of adule male. for some reason.
jhvh1: ben_vulpes: The operation succeeded.