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mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459548 << mircea_popescu, so would a Left to Right orientation be alright then?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-30 01:13 mircea_popescu: mod6 could graph be vertical rather than horizontal alligned ?
mircea_popescu: i just meant it's 1000x80 now, should be 80x1000
mod6: ah, hm. alright.
j-dawg: mircea_popescu: mpex is not updating orderbook again
mircea_popescu checks this out
mircea_popescu: seems to be ok
mircea_popescu: hola shinohai
shinohai: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 452.9, vol: 5259.62288531 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 449.999, vol: 6189.53064 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 452.65, vol: 26970.744069 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 452.90789, vol: 35031.30640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 455.51, vol: 1708.34797017 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 457.34854, vol: 58.13538837 | Volume-weighted last average: 452.638030877
mircea_popescu: http://olegbumbac.blogspot.com.ar/2012/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html << maybe interesting to the esl crowd that earnestly believes "western decay" is "woman's fault" because they somehow oppress males or are feminazis or whatever : the supposedly independent republic of moldavia exhibits the EXACT opposite atmosphere (like many ex soviet sattelite provinces, actually, orcland). the females are outright worsh
mircea_popescu: ipful of manhood.
mircea_popescu: not even any man specifically, manhood as a transcendental superiority. visible in how seventeen year olds behave in public to a larger degree than the insolence of anglos is visible ; visible throughout.
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-10#1465428 <<< can't wait for the "plane" version
a111: Logged on 2016-05-10 14:19 shinohai: Morning #trilema http://i.4cdn.org/b/1462887860424.gif
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, moldavia is still a shithole. always was a shithole.
mircea_popescu: all the worship of one gender by the other does in practice is sink that other, moldavian men are some of the most miserable, whiny, incompetent and discapacitated dudes you'll ever see. almost gypsy level (and guess why gypsies - much like niggers btw - are cowardly ? yes it's because female worship, of fucking course).
mircea_popescu: so... no. tis not teh women's fault in any sense.
mircea_popescu: shinohai is that gord ?
mircea_popescu: must be.
mircea_popescu: no good ?
mircea_popescu: tough crowd.
asciilifeform: that face - no theorems.
mircea_popescu: you can tell by the face ?
deedbot: [Trilema] Vasile, c'est tout. - http://trilema.com/2016/vasile-cest-tout/
shinohai: Quick question twiw: Does deedbot operate on the same L1 & L2 scheme as assbot did?
shinohai: k, thanks
asciilifeform: (whole forum is like this. found it via phuctor reflogz)
mircea_popescu: seems yoi found some friends.
asciilifeform: not quite, mostly folks crying into their drinks
asciilifeform: but crying in the right direction!111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: another minor l0l, https://www.pgpru.com/forum/rabotasgnupg/gpg4wincherezanusrasshifrovyvaetkirillicu << all the orcish font support is for naught, gpg4win craps out rubbish when used with cyrillic
mircea_popescu: it's not supposed to work in THAT sense. fuck the orcs, who cares. it's supposed to work in THIS other sense.
mircea_popescu: still fucking overflowing, to this day, 15 years later.
asciilifeform: yah well in that sense worx great, a++++
trinque: shinohai: having a problem?
asciilifeform: https://www.pgpru.com/servisy/packetdump << they have a pgp packet dumper, but it seems to barf on anything i give it
trinque: oh you're prolly working on wiki stuff
shinohai: yeah working on wiki stuff trinque ... trying to learn clwiki formatting, of which there seems to be little
shinohai: For now just going to strip all the old stuff to basic parts and go from there I guess.
trinque: cool
shinohai: trinque: am I missing something, or I cannot format like this: http://i.imgur.com/7s2ZFyD.png?1
trinque: shinohai: I can add css to whichever tags you need styled
asciilifeform: l0l, phuctor ddos apparently
shinohai: MAy as well shutter the DEA now
asciilifeform: quite possibly, these folx read the logz.
asciilifeform: 'The first time the NSA publicly and decisively gave support to ECC occurred at a meeting of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) in December 1995. The backers of RSA at the meeting were casting doubt on the safety of ECC-based protocols; in the mid-1990s a page called “ECC Central” on the RSA website carried statements by leading personalities in cryptography that characterized ECC
asciilifeform: as untested and based on esoteric mathematics. '
asciilifeform: 'The nontechnical industry representatives on the ANSI committee were impressed by the RSA argument. As the heated debate continued, the NSA representative left to make a phone call. When he returned, he announced that he was authorized to state that the NSA believed that ECC had sufficient security to be used for secure communications among all U.S. government agencies, including the Federal Reserv
asciilifeform: e. People were stunned. In those days the NSA representatives at standards meetings would sit quietly and hardly say a word. No one had expected such a direct and unambiguous statement from the NSA. The ECC standards were approved.'
asciilifeform: ^ mega-l0l! ^
asciilifeform: pure gold:
asciilifeform: 'To ensure that the NSA-generated elliptic curves did not belong to a very
asciilifeform: special class of curves, a simple procedure was devised whereby the coeffi-
asciilifeform: cients of an elliptic curve were derived by passing a seed through the hash
asciilifeform: function SHA-1. Given the seed and its associated elliptic curve, anyone
asciilifeform: could check that the curve had been generated from the seed. Since SHA-1
asciilifeform: is (still) considered to be a one-way function, it would be infeasible for anyone
asciilifeform: to first select a curve with very special properties, and then find a seed
asciilifeform: which yields that curve.'
asciilifeform: FUCK invisible linefeed garbage
asciilifeform: anyway - whole thing eminently worth reading.
asciilifeform: http://people.item.ntnu.no/~danilog/Hash/Non-random-behaviour-narrow-pipe-designs-03.pdf << interesting re 'whitening' etc. (tldr: no known hash behaves like 'random oracle', demonstrably)
deedbot: [Qntra] What Is Preet Bharara Afraid Of? - http://qntra.net/2016/05/what-is-preet-bharara-afraid-of/
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 453.0, vol: 4838.28317451 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 448.841, vol: 5677.33624 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 453.18, vol: 23104.63533724 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 451.628008, vol: 29502.97510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 454.601, vol: 983.52914552 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 460.023413, vol: 70.41158083 | Volume-weighted last average: 452.0984038
shinohai: bwahahhaaaa nice article BingoBoingo
BingoBoingo: WHich one?
shinohai: "What is Preet Bharara afraid of?"
shinohai: Kinda succinct, but good
BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats
gribble: Current Blocks: 411202 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 61 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 9 hours, 26 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
danielpbarron: BingoBoingo, I don't mind that you add words to my articles, especially when new info comes out after i have submitted it (like a third bet) but please don't add in a way that breaks the flow. The point I made in regard to the ethereum bet is hard to follow with the trump bet listed right before it
danielpbarron: and yes i probably could have mentioned that znort is in WoT but znort never talks here, so it's a toss up. Chat more, get more mentions. Don't chat, get forgotten
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Sorry, I'll try to fix the flow
danielpbarron: not what i woulda done but it worx
mircea_popescu: da fuck do these people do, 17yo highschool gossip ?
punkman: mhmm
mircea_popescu: worthless bullshit, i want to know what "company" this is to short the shit off it.
mircea_popescu: also i wanna know what the fuck irl name "milfseriously" has, just in case he shows up at any social event and isn't there as a toilet slave.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it was it didn't last long.
mircea_popescu: still, getting 30-50/hour submissions is pretty good imo.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform amusingly, the decade intervening has meanwhile totally fucked them. they're moving off ecc now in a hurry, and their dilemma is "go back to rsa or beg alf for c-s."
mircea_popescu: which is pretty lulzy considering tmsr is supposed to be this obscure thing rather than the leading governmental authority of the world./
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that it is nearly certain that a summer intern has been sent to write a usg c-s.
mircea_popescu: aha. should be funny once his dr wright implementation comes to pieces./
mircea_popescu: an event which, of course, nobody could have predicted.
mircea_popescu: also the above lines didn't happen.
asciilifeform: naturally.
asciilifeform: re: the hn thread and 'her-assment' - folks living under usg are quite like children under drunkard father - they learn to 'build fences' (orthodox jew concept) around 'what might upset him'
asciilifeform: thus it is quite ordinary for folks who so much as fall under suspicion to be sacked
mircea_popescu: lol aheeb the horsy will be fucking famous before he dies huh,
punkman: so should the chick tell her boss new guy is harassment lawsuit waiting to happen?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo danielpbarron has a point ; editing people's articles is a very iffy thing, best to discuss it with them prior to publication if it's anything more than a word or such.
mircea_popescu: punkman the chick was the adult at the table, from what can be seen. the "boss" is a pimply imbecile who has no business in business.
asciilifeform: thing is, the boss in the link is not a complete idiot, so much as the mere fact of a 'harassment' suit can sink a small firm.
mircea_popescu: such a thing as a "small firm" may not exist in an environment where such a thingas "harassment" exists.
asciilifeform: brilliant, never-before thought of pill !111111
asciilifeform: why not 'breathe fire at the enemy'
mircea_popescu: it's not a pill, even. "how can i lose weight while eating 5-6k calories a day ???" "you can't. stop eating." "hurr durr."
mircea_popescu: srsly nao.
asciilifeform: 'let them eat cake' (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu: there isn't a pill for everything.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo danielpbarron has a point ; editing people's articles is a very iffy thing, best to discuss it with them prior to publication if it's anything more than a word or such. << ok
mircea_popescu: i suppose you can just do it in an emergency sort of set-up, but really it's like pinching asses in the subway. best to be kept at a minimum.
j-dawg: i had similar issue with bingo and he promised to consult his redactions, but he likes to forget :D
j-dawg: or, better to say, he likes to get carried away
shinohai: Editors gonna edit.
BingoBoingo: I am not always as rememberful as I would like to be.
mircea_popescu: eh things occur.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform them nametag shits...
mircea_popescu: ftr t lange is pretty respectable, knitting or no knitting. http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/
mircea_popescu: see the unclonable functions project etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha
asciilifeform: iirc she is bernstein's coauthor in pretty much everything, also.
mircea_popescu: guess so
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: rjh is one of the mirrored-phuctored folk btw.
asciilifeform: so nobody's gonna be signing anything with that key.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
asciilifeform: my scintillator fibre is here.
mod6: i thought you said it was like impossible to get?
BingoBoingo: Ebay's a hell of a drug
trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-socialmedia-idUSKCN0Y12EU << congress staying on top of the important problems of the day.
asciilifeform: mod6: it turned up.
mod6: nice!
asciilifeform: some fella's selling miles of it. usg surplus.
mod6: hey hey
mod6: cool
mircea_popescu: ahhh coq au vin ftw.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda weird reaction from the derps. it's almost as if they welcome teh ownage.
asciilifeform: 'spread wide & think of england!!11'
BingoBoingo: less time with rope?
mircea_popescu: possibly less time in shoes.
asciilifeform realized that the perfect rng is in fact... a spinthariscope.
asciilifeform: not geiger, not fiber, but ye olde motherfucking spinthariscope.
asciilifeform: no hv inverter (unlike geiger);
mircea_popescu: it wears out just as much as geiger
asciilifeform: no gas.
mircea_popescu: well, coating\
asciilifeform: dun wear out.
asciilifeform: 100 y.o. ones still work.
mircea_popescu: difference between "still works" and "still same". 100 yo lightbulbs still work, but they don't have the same resistance they had 100 years ago
asciilifeform: use something with reasonably absurbly long half life
asciilifeform: e.g., am-241.
mircea_popescu: i guess they use americium now yeah
mircea_popescu: still, not obvious why it'd be better than geiger, fiber or electronic noise.
asciilifeform: and at any rate, for a reasonably low bit rate, can use backgroumd.
asciilifeform: because ZnS is neither rare nor difficult to make.
asciilifeform: geiger sucks arse !
asciilifeform: needs hv
asciilifeform: inverter.
asciilifeform: which introduces own periodicity
mircea_popescu: heh. and if one day a comet with a heart of radium goes by, we'll know in the keys.
asciilifeform: (and geiger has life measured in 100s hrs)
mircea_popescu: micro, rather than macro is the correct direction here.\
mircea_popescu: you don't want to tie-in to momentuous, galactic events
asciilifeform: those don't spit out alpha anyway.
asciilifeform: (mean free path of ~1cm at stp)
asciilifeform: 50g of ZnS crystal from cn, incidentally, is ~$10.
asciilifeform: (standard old school b&w crt phosophour)
mircea_popescu: not hard to make either.\
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