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phf: so if you work too long with tinyscheme repl, you shit town of gensyms in oblist and things ... get ... somewhat ... slower
phf: *get shit towm
phf: fuck it.
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phf: BITCOIND> (time
phf: (let ((big2 (integer->big 2 10)))
phf: (let loop ((i 1024) (big big2))
phf: (if (> i 1)
phf: (loop (- i 1) (big-mul big big2))
phf: (show-big big)))))
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ben_vulpes: phf: i'd love to see your clang work *elbow elbow*
phf: yeah yeah
phf: sometime this weekend
ben_vulpes: !up PaulCape_
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assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 06:02:14; phf: 179769313486231590772930519078902473361797697894230657273430081157732675805500963132708477322407536021120113879871393357658789768814416622492847430639474124377767893424865485276302219601246094119453082952085005768838150682342462881473913110540827237163350510684586298239947245938479716304835356329624224137216
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't think 12 seconds is bad.
asciilifeform: depends.
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mircea_popescu: teh mpex price warz!
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assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 04:13:12; mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so i go to grande fiesta argentina club/teatro blabla bla. one girl in a corset, the other girl in a cuntskirt, nice stuff. i get there, it's a dingy fucking affair the likes you've never seen, and a bunch of retards in jeans and tshirts queued around the fucking corner waiting for the shithole to open.
asciilifeform: transparent?
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mircea_popescu: a cuntskirt is a skirt cut to fall exactly at the height of the cunt.
mircea_popescu: so for as long as you're standing still, it covers.
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punkman: asciilifeform: .. << hottest pr0nz ever posted here imho! << 100 year old porn is pretty cool
mircea_popescu: deadophilliacs.
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asciilifeform: punkman: aha! they still had actual chix in quantity, to photograph, vs today's plastic meatrobots.
asciilifeform: they had... faces.
mircea_popescu: now i gotta see this thing
mircea_popescu: wtf is with this disobedient, herpy female bullshit. i'd take bangbros over the "artistic" pre-digital shit any fucking day and twice on sundays and bangbroxmas.
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise
punkman: what's wrong with that picture
mircea_popescu: and i'm not even proposing that bangbros is fit for anything but decorating rural outhouses and rolls of toilet paper.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: punkman that the woman's face looks like it could belong to an inuit warrior, that her female bits are NOT front-and-center and that her posture is inadequate (in not being loudly submissive to a degree of almost parody)
asciilifeform: isn't she supposed to be a greek goddess in that pic?
mircea_popescu: it's the exact opposite of cuntskirt.
mircea_popescu: i dun give a shit what her delusional head tells her she's being in MY pic.
mircea_popescu: greek fucking goddess, what's next.
mircea_popescu: how about she bees a worm ? i dun truck with women posturing as greek goddesses.
asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise2.
mircea_popescu waves from his boat, the unsurprise.
mircea_popescu: also, isn't this conversation breaking the cuntdel test ? :D
mircea_popescu: what baffles me is that you somehow associate this vapid bullshit with "faces", or i suppose more deeply, personalities.
asciilifeform: it is more that my allergens are absent
mircea_popescu: you know the hambeasts being special on etsy are to no degree, in no manner and not at all any deeper, or more in possession of a soul than casting couch starlets and aspiring cocksuckers everywhere.
asciilifeform: not having been yet invented.
mircea_popescu: what allergens be those ?
asciilifeform: the 'hambeasts' are deformed
mircea_popescu: i meant something specific tho.
mircea_popescu: the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the plastic face (partly literally, pound of cosmetic)
mircea_popescu: so you can't stand japanese, or for that matter classic, theatre.
asciilifeform: and the bovine empty stare.
asciilifeform: i like theatre but won't lust to it
mircea_popescu: you know, just because she isn't looking 2 inches under the apex of the camera lens (which is how that effect is obtained, and in all women, even the liveliest cockteases of the lot) but instead 30 degrees to the left in the foliage changes EXACTLY nothing
asciilifeform: but actual mask doesn't trigger the same revulsion
mircea_popescu: the cowsies are just as bovine, the pixies just as flittery.
mircea_popescu: maybe the explanation here is that having seen the thing from the threshold of the 4th wall, my head readily maps and/or discards your allergens.
asciilifeform: possibly.
asciilifeform: this may be an MP-complete problem!!1111
mircea_popescu: while inept shit like you know, "artistically" putting one's hair over one's pubis really gets my fucking goat.
mircea_popescu: i can't stand about 80% of everything hollywood ever made because of the boob cut.
mircea_popescu: heck, 80% of what i like about verhoeven is that he doesn't follow the inept convention of "ohmygerd gotta artistically snip the nips!!11"
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 15:42:04; mircea_popescu: the etsy woman is this very peculiar anglo chick.
mircea_popescu: fine, let's detail.
asciilifeform thought at 'etsy' was a site for abysmal artists
mircea_popescu: a girl of no particular talents or inclinations grows up in the house of white, upper lowerclass to higher middle class parents, decided to be a good girl and be good and nice and good!
mircea_popescu: she proceeds to go to through school, because you must, where her chief accomplishment is not getting pregnant, because you mustn't! and after having failed at both knowledge and passion, she carries her decrepit carcass sucked mostly dry of juice by the vampire of her mother and the lich of her father + assorted family on to college
mircea_popescu: because you must! and there she picks up a lukewarm major and more or less finishes, and gets involved in some sort of verbiage or another, like journalismsocialmediavolunteeringtohelppeopleblablabla.
mircea_popescu: by now she's totally lost, and well... she can't have children, nor could ever. she can't interest a man, nor could ever. she can't keep herself amused, nor could ever.
asciilifeform: so far i'm with this, i live in town with 30,000 of it
mircea_popescu: so she makes some garbage out of some other garbage and attempts to imbue it with all her dismal powers of nothing
mircea_popescu: that in another woman in another place would have been offspring and family and work and power and everything human
mircea_popescu: but in her, it's just this small, lukewarm, modest piece of garbage.
asciilifeform: except for the 'interest man', they reliably pair up
mircea_popescu: "vintage" purse. scented candle. "good for you" soap.
asciilifeform: with the male equiv.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is not a man.
mircea_popescu: and yes, they do, and all that happens is that they cry over their own dead bodies together.
asciilifeform: no theorems.
asciilifeform: this is the fate of people with no theorems.
mircea_popescu: and then you see her in the studio, dragged in by one of the usual preditors, "lesbian" women that hate women (especially in the sense of our "heroine"), ex-athlete stars who figure they've been shortchanged because school ends, you name it.
asciilifeform: and you forgot to list the cat-breeding.
mircea_popescu: and there... she attempts to protect what she perceives as valuable by virtue of inertia.
mircea_popescu: that comes after.
asciilifeform: after what?
asciilifeform: what triggers the cats?
mircea_popescu: after everyone's done trying to predate her.
mircea_popescu: the cats make reasonable exploiters.
mircea_popescu: i suppose they'd raise spiders, if spiders ate human flesh.
asciilifeform: i think this is really it .
mircea_popescu: but spiders don't care, having better things to do and much more talent with the thread and needle.
asciilifeform: the dream of being eaten...
asciilifeform: i often wonder why they never raise big cats
mircea_popescu: the truth of the matter is that flesh knows its cure.
mircea_popescu: she should be eaten, and in a sane world would try and befriend a wolf in winter. i'm sure this actually happened historically, if not recorded anywhere.
mircea_popescu: (by whom - wolves don't write)
mircea_popescu: and there's perfectly valid evolutionary reason the genes for this nonsense'd be present in the population.
mircea_popescu: the etsy girl is the platelet of humanity. she goes to be eaten.
mircea_popescu: there's record in the history of the church of virgin in flock of virgins that gave herself to orcs so that the others may be kept, and they fucked her to bits, so she's now a strange sort of martyr.
mircea_popescu: and how do you know that the cods that you ACTUALLY cut with a knife in scandia sounds aren't DIFFERENT cods from all the other cods, and especially the cods you do not cut.
asciilifeform: sop in insect world..
mircea_popescu: now, that such misery would be selected for and bred into the population by the ineptitude of "state" and "government" is merely unfortunate.
mircea_popescu: but it is inhuman, and it is inhuman deeply and irretrievably.
mircea_popescu: confronted with this problem, bovine stares bother me not at all.
asciilifeform: ever read 'the human zoo' ?
mircea_popescu: dun think so ?
asciilifeform: sorta about this
asciilifeform: concerns degenerate behaviours in captive animals and maps onto man
mircea_popescu: understand that the woman immortalized in, say, vegetanpizda, is stricto sensu human, whereas the etsy girl is not, nor could ever be,
asciilifeform: any evil empire worth its salt, breeds monsters.
asciilifeform bbl, food
mircea_popescu: ideally monsters that are better suited for life, however. this is pretty shitty.
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asciilifeform: [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 1): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB
asciilifeform: [Hardware Error]: Error Status: Corrected error, no action required.
asciilifeform: my first cosmic ray !
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asciilifeform: either that or i finally got fed the polonium.
asciilifeform: (or i shouldnt've bought those decade-old dimms...)
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hdbuck: good day gentlemen
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hdbuck: pardon for my agnostic demands but as I’ve just followed Mr popescu’s guide to set up the realbitcoinfoundation node, i am unsure how it is working :/
asciilifeform: hdbuck: unsure how ?
asciilifeform: hdbuck: it works, or it doesn't ?
hdbuck: i got a v hash not matching
asciilifeform: which one ?
hdbuck: peter koorsgad
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
danielpbarron: i saw him /part yesterday
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: this doesn't tell us much. artifexd and dignork are still logged in, long after having set sail on the flying dutchman
hdbuck: so am stuck until mr korsgaad signature is verified?
asciilifeform: hdbuck: try verifying it by hand, and tell us what was the output
asciilifeform: and post the file hash here. (sha512)
hdbuck: how would i do that?
asciilifeform: first things first, link to the build script you used
asciilifeform: (or dpaste it)
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danielpbarron: << he parted about 2 minutes after this line
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2016 17:05:40; PeterL: so if people in the Assbot L1 are the peers, what do we call those of us in the Assbot L2?
assbot: dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( )
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asciilifeform: hdbuck: yours barfs on line 45, gpg --verify buildroot-2015.05.tar.gz.sign ?
hdbuck: what do you mean?
asciilifeform: where does it die ?
asciilifeform: your build
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hdbuck: when i execute it i just get this:
assbot: dpaste: 2F3PSGN ... ( )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 << wtf is with line 46 of that ?????
assbot: dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 rather, 47
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: this script cannot possibly work.
asciilifeform: hdbuck: where and when did you get it ?
ben_vulpes: << see anything else wrong, asciilifeform ?
assbot: dpaste: 2ZZXGPW ... ( )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: is this supposed to highlight a line ?
asciilifeform: this dun work on my box.
ben_vulpes: run more chromeblows!
asciilifeform: doesn't highlight there, either !
asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think
asciilifeform: at any rate, WHAT THE FUCK was 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' EVER supposed to do ??????
ben_vulpes: notrly a thing to spend much time debugging, it does say 'line-3'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aaand ?
ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i get that
asciilifeform: but that was not my question.
asciilifeform: 'curl -s -o V-20151129.tar.gz' ??????
asciilifeform: does what.
asciilifeform: how did this ~ever~ work ?
ben_vulpes: anyways this i believe to be the current version:
hdbuck: @asciilifeform got it from the commands the wiki tells us to do i suppose
ben_vulpes: that wiki'll be the death of poor mod6
ben_vulpes: and me
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: this thing where outdated crud floats around, confusing people, drove me to madness long before v etc.
asciilifeform: i have yet to devise any serious final solution to this (outside of eldritch horrors like blockchain telegraphy.)
ben_vulpes: <blink>HOW TO NODE</blink> on would be an improvement
asciilifeform: but the one practical observation is, PICK UP YOUR TRASH
asciilifeform: either update the wiki EVERY TIME it gets obsoleted, or... don't bother HAVING it.
hdbuck: ah so it is because you keep going on and dont bother updating the wiki?
asciilifeform: hdbuck: apparently.
hdbuck: so i get to dl obsolete script :/
hdbuck: anyway i gotta go, i’ll come back for moar help setting it up, thanks anyway
ben_vulpes: hdbuck use the linked v99995
hdbuck: @ben_vulpes now i got this
assbot: dpaste: 2N5V06F ... ( )
assbot: Public Key Server -- Get "0xb98228a001abffc7 " ... ( )
asciilifeform: hdbuck: where did your set of keys come from originally ?
hdbuck: i look up from directly using the 0x… keys from the script
hdbuck: 2 days ago
hdbuck: also i just did it again now, with the link you provided me with, still not working
asciilifeform: paste the public key you have for me.
asciilifeform: (dpaste)
assbot: dpaste: 0D10JJK ... ( )
danielpbarron: << updated, let me know if I messed something up
assbot: the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( )
asciilifeform: hdbuck: this appears to be a correct key.
asciilifeform: hdbuck: but is it the key that v is using on your box ?
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al : possibly a neglected subject in the wiki, trb site, etc. is where the hell a n00b is supposed to get pubkeys.
danielpbarron: where is anyone supposed to get pubkeys?
asciilifeform: i did not say that this was a solvable problem, in the usual sense.
danielpbarron: i think it's generally solved by the 6-month rule
hdbuck: @asciilifeform but is it the key that v is using on your box ? >> what do you mean?
asciilifeform: hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: while mod6's scripts pull them down from the net, i think this is actually a social problem.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought he quit doing this ????
asciilifeform: after i explained that it is a catastrophic mistake
ben_vulpes: ah, i recall now.
ben_vulpes: naively, from each of our websites?
asciilifeform: but now it seems like hdbuck somehow ended up with my expired subkey ?
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: has it though
asciilifeform: anyway hdbuck has done his 6 mo. tour of duty, iirc.
asciilifeform: so this does not automagically solve.
asciilifeform: what, make the 6, 36 ?
ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
asciilifeform: well clearly it does not.
ben_vulpes: is supposed to?
asciilifeform: and there is not an actual solution to the key distribution problem.
asciilifeform: just as there is not a solution to the three-body problem.
asciilifeform: but there are non-solution approximations of varying degrees of brokenness.
asciilifeform: imho, at the very least he oughta be able to ask assbot and get the pubkey each of us is presently logged in with.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ?
ben_vulpes: sorry, i was being snide.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: was asking about getting assbot to regurgitate pubkeys on demand
hdbuck: asciilifeform: hdbuck: if you take that key and manually run gpg --verify ..... on one of my patches, what do you get ? >> could you dpaste it so i dont get it wrong?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:16:12; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did the buildroot fella ever come back to you with a modern sig ?
asciilifeform: hdbuck: paste what ?
hdbuck: the command
asciilifeform: gpg --verify some.vpatch.sig
hdbuck: i’ve just started over in a new directory using the new wiki, still not sorking :/
danielpbarron: heh, where does it go off the tracks?
danielpbarron: for me, i also had a problem with the buildroot sig, but it finished with a working bitcoind anyway
mircea_popescu: << eh, every possible wwwtron that runs no www, somehow, even the www that runs on every actual wwtron, including all the ones that run very constrained sets of www!!1
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:52:40; asciilifeform: i have every possible wwwtron here, i think
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ikr ?
mircea_popescu: must be selfwritten.
asciilifeform: fact is, doesn't seem to work on anything
asciilifeform: possibly because i don't do the update thing ?
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 17:54:40; ben_vulpes: v99997. not that anyone could be reasonably expected to know that that's 2 degrees out of date.
mircea_popescu: a) the line in question is not there. hdbuck where did you get it from ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: look also in the log, i think it just got fixed 1/2 hr ago
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mircea_popescu: b) there is no "crud". it correctly indicates to use 99995.
kakobrekla: "!key $nick" or something has been on my mind for a few months just havent actually gotten around to it.
mircea_popescu: <<< everyone is supposed to get pubkeys from THEIR FRIENDS.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 18:28:36; danielpbarron: where is anyone supposed to get pubkeys?
mircea_popescu: exactly same place one gets phone numbers for horny sluts.
mircea_popescu: we're misusing the wot / pushing things, here.
mircea_popescu: this nonsense is not to long continue.
asciilifeform: i can't really disagree with mircea_popescu.
asciilifeform: the inevitable thing is that vtron users' expectations must re-adjust.
kakobrekla: except that noobs dont have friends
asciilifeform: step 1 has to be 'make friend'
asciilifeform: there is no other way.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla no friends, no life.
ben_vulpes: "social problem"
kakobrekla: idk whats the goal of trb to be ran among a dozen friends and thats it?
mircea_popescu: no. the goal of trb is to be ran AMONG PEOPLE.
mircea_popescu: we're not saving fucking africa over here.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and their friends, and their friends' friends
kakobrekla: there arent that many of those.
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "rembrandt is not good because not so many of them"
kakobrekla: i want to use my buttcoins at more than 7 places, ideally
mircea_popescu: i want to use my buttcoins at EXACTLY 0 places of the wrong sort.
mircea_popescu: i'm not really as constrained about where i leave my seed.
kakobrekla: if the soil wont be fertile 0 places of the right sort will grow.
mircea_popescu: if the requirement of "have a friend" is a bar to fertility, other things have to be fixed.
mircea_popescu: not this one. this one is just the gauge.
mircea_popescu: basically, i'm starting to understand, socialism is, other than utter idiocy, an alt-way to be social!
mircea_popescu: have friends with all the benefits of never meeting them, and none of the drawbacks. have friends IN AFRICA!
mircea_popescu: not the real place, of course. the mental nation of africa.
asciilifeform: how is that 'friends'
mircea_popescu: hey, how is usd money.
mircea_popescu: who knows these things.
asciilifeform: usd is what used to be called scrip.
asciilifeform: the 'friends' are what used to be called 'penpal'
asciilifeform: there were words, for these lesser simulacra.
mircea_popescu: and these friends is what used to be called hallucinations.
asciilifeform: well once you come to think of simulacra as the real thing, yes, hallucination
asciilifeform: sex doll is not a woman, etc.
mircea_popescu: and you know, it's something i actually encountered in teh field ? slavegirl picks up random 19 yo, kinda mousy, manga fan with glasses living with parents sorta chick. they go out a coupla times over the course of i dunno - months ? eventually she cuts her off. turns out teenybopper was turning down ~9 out of 10 invites, never put out, her last email being something like "we'll i'd like to continue being friends". bit
mircea_popescu: ch, seriously, being friends DOING WHAT ?
mircea_popescu: but see, for 19 yo redditard, "being friends" doth not include or imply doing anything. on the contrary.
mircea_popescu: it's a fantasy, not a state.
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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sexuate reproduction happens between a passive and an active individual. so we'll have to see what you mean by "sex doll". if it's a literalism, sure, if it's a metaphore prolly no deal.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if there were a type of turnip-cum-cunt that could be fucked, right there in your garden's soil, would you ?
asciilifeform: doesn't get more passive than that...
mircea_popescu: depends.
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mircea_popescu: loll all you want. there is no objective feminity.
mircea_popescu: it's a construct.
asciilifeform: eh who am i to say turnip isn't fuckable.
asciilifeform: perhaps on mircea_popescu's planet, that is what is to fuck.
mircea_popescu: who are you to say YOU wouldn't fuck turnip, love it, and refuse to cease even when shown otherwise ?
asciilifeform: i probably would, and will, if These Things Go On (tm)
asciilifeform: don't get me wrong, i very much see the mircea_popescutronic perspective here.
danielpbarron: i encountered one of these "just friends" chicks somewhat recently : girl hits me up on farceb00k seeing that her friends are friends with me; chats me up daily for like a week; I suggest she come see me and get some food somewhere; her response "what would we do? just talk?" ; mine "sure" ; haven't heard from her since
asciilifeform: let something be other than passive, and do something ~to~ you, and before long - you're in pederasty.
mircea_popescu: but it WASNT "just friends", as in, not fucking. it was "just friends" as in... i have no fucking idea what, facebook lists ?
danielpbarron: a virtual character on their facebook page basically
mircea_popescu: i suppose this is an idle objeciton, the "no fucking" "just friends" of yore made exactly as little sense.
danielpbarron: not for actually meeting
ben_vulpes: "sure" is probably the least enticing thing you could possibly say in that circumstance lol
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's veering into "i can't drink coffee - it keeps me up" territory.
mircea_popescu: hard to say these days, kids have dynamited historical formalisms without understanding exactly how that'll come back to bite them
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, pederasty is not something that can happen to you by accident. it means fucking young boys.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other end of pederasty
asciilifeform: in ru prison parlance.
mircea_popescu: erastes-y ?
asciilifeform: where you sell your arse for a cig.
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asciilifeform: how do you even say 'lowered into pederasty' in englisch.
asciilifeform: 'punked' ?
mircea_popescu: i guess... tho technically it'd be "made into a punk" otherwise it's kind-of ambiguous
mircea_popescu: the anglos do not like to say the things they do not wish to hear.
mircea_popescu: you could say lowered into petuhery, that'd be necessarily transparent as glass.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron anyway i think what the cascadian is trying to say there is that it's fashionable these days to say something you know, hip and edgy. "nah, we could go pillaging and plundering! arrrr!" or whatever inane bs of the sort.
danielpbarron: well i shortened it for brevity; my actual response was something like "no i'm gonna tie you up and hang you from the rafters, yeah talk"
mircea_popescu: you said that ?!
danielpbarron: yeah. was that bad?
mircea_popescu: now we know how all the "almost raped irl" cases happen irl.
mircea_popescu: buncha impressionable teenagers talk to danielpbarron, fail to see the humour.
danielpbarron: oh she was no teenage, approximately my age
danielpbarron: although mentally who knows
mircea_popescu: the prostitution rests.
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mircea_popescu: << don't be silly, it did solve it. he came here and complained.
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 18:35:59; ben_vulpes: what, reading the logs magically solves the key distribution problem? or do i catastrophically misunderstand.
mircea_popescu: this is correct and functioning as intended.
ben_vulpes: that is not 'reading the logs' that is 'engaging with the forum'
asciilifeform: actually he went to pm, at me, and is very sad, can't get sig to verify for no reason i can ascertain.
mircea_popescu: the beauty of our arrangement being that we actually provide provably-correct, provably-complete solutions to problems that provably can not be formally formulated.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes these terms have meanings you distinguish how ?
ben_vulpes: one passive one active?
mircea_popescu: active "talking to the forum" gets people in trouble and passive reading produces the dumb half of every college class.
mircea_popescu: would you like to put in another quarter ?
ben_vulpes: my favorite arcade game -- Wrong About Everything! (tm)
ben_vulpes: << on an older thread: code takes at least 2 months to review, financial statements ~6, unless you're in a hurry to give asciilifeform 10 btc, may as well shoot for somewhere in that range.
assbot: Logged on 24-02-2016 19:50:12; mircea_popescu: well lessee here, one of mod6 ben_vulpes give an opinion on this ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes atm i'm just trying to politely temper the fellow's enthusiasm and un-allergenically redirect more of his efforts towards practical if boresome matters.
mircea_popescu: watch me do it :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presently in the terminal to the left, slowly postgresqlating
mircea_popescu: mp management wurx.
asciilifeform: but holy fuck is that thing slow
asciilifeform: astonishing, how ever worked...
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asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: that, i answered a while back,
assbot: Logged on 25-02-2016 01:38:57; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu << i suggest that it is done 1) no earlier than 4th 2) no earlier than working cramershouptron is posted 5) paid not to my earthly carcass but to snsa piggy - under whose flag it will be published.
ben_vulpes: i saw
ben_vulpes: in completely other news, the child just rolled over of his own accord for the first time
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what did you name the boy anyway
ben_vulpes: is now crowing self-satisfiedly on the floor
ben_vulpes: name? he can't even talk yet.
ben_vulpes: you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent
ben_vulpes: cedar levi vulpes, in the grand vulpesian tradition of shit not making any sense whatsoever
asciilifeform: l0l i can see him setting mines for nazi echelons near warsaw or the like.
asciilifeform: somewhere in belorussia.
ben_vulpes: i'm expecting vietnamese-style contact mines launched from a longbow but yes
asciilifeform: l0l bpg
asciilifeform: bowstrig-propelled-grenade ?
asciilifeform: *string
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> you get a name in this family when you take out your first irs agent << bwahahaha
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha yes
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so he's going to be chevy to his jr high class ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to get briefly back to the cramer shoup thing, i am very much curious re: who is going to review it, and how
ben_vulpes: 'cascadian mortar'
mircea_popescu reads cedar like the cheese. like in the old country. CHEdar beotch!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in case you slept through the thread, there are no public implementations in the ordinary sense, of whatever kind.
mircea_popescu: i was here.
mircea_popescu: just because my eyes move independently of the head doesn't mean i'm not reading!
ben_vulpes: nono, saw.
mircea_popescu: fucking specieism
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: add it to the long list of shit that'll need multiple implementations just for testing
mircea_popescu: as needed as it may be, a woman takes nine months to produce a cepher no matter how many vulpes are working on her.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: think for a minute, about the peculiar nature of crypto.
asciilifeform: it is not enough that the program - runs.
mircea_popescu: that;s not what he meant omg!
asciilifeform: someone actually has to get off his mathematical arse.
asciilifeform: preferably - more than one someone.
ben_vulpes: must be two for comparison to be meaningful
mircea_popescu: mno. comparisons of 1 and 3 are meaningful. comparison of two is confusing.
ben_vulpes: and mircea_popescu what jr high classmates lol
ben_vulpes: ah tie problem
mircea_popescu: all joking aside : kids gotta grow up with kids. first few years dun matter, but if he doesn't spend a decade covered in opp starting at about 5 or so he's going to suffer for it.
mircea_popescu: this "home education" thing works for me, if and when i decide to knock up two dozen slaves and then produce a litter the size of an average obeast.
ben_vulpes: "other people's progeny"?
mircea_popescu: single father single mother single child home ed is how they ended up needing freud.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform other people's piss.
ben_vulpes: 'tisn't actually "alone at home" in this part of the world.
mircea_popescu: but you can mentally think of it as part of the "piss and vinegar" doublet if the physiology bothers.
ben_vulpes: tis a healthy wot of "fuck you usg" around here
mircea_popescu: a something like that.
asciilifeform: how does one spend a decade before 5 ?
asciilifeform: is my parser broken ?
mircea_popescu: it is. postifix ?!
ben_vulpes: no "school" per se, but individuals contracted to teach groups of 5, 8, perhaps 10, specific subjects.
mircea_popescu: i hear that's how the founding fathers grew up all weird.
ben_vulpes: parents who know certain subjects teach those. parents with large houses host 1-3 days/wk.
mircea_popescu: check out the jews, made themselves a fucking kibbutz right in the middle of oregon.
ben_vulpes: healthy dose of evangelicals too. broad political spectrum united almost solely by 'no fucking way'.
mircea_popescu: this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: out of curiosity, 'no way' ~what~ specifically
mircea_popescu: no, that's the beauty of it.
asciilifeform: 'no way we will be ruled by pedos in funny hats' ?
asciilifeform: or which is it.
mircea_popescu: "specifically" is the instrument of the devil.
mircea_popescu: you specifically, motherfucker. not me. government doesn't hold the handles of the debate.
asciilifeform: i had no idea ben_vulpes was a pashtun.
asciilifeform: this zaps several mysteries in my head.
mircea_popescu: !alf list mysteries
ben_vulpes: yes, which mysteries?
asciilifeform: in this particular case, why offspring
mircea_popescu: how about her alfie ? still no good ?
ben_vulpes: yeesh that's quite a face
asciilifeform: this one is instant-hire at the circus, aha.
ben_vulpes: lolclown
mircea_popescu: omfg this is cruel. she's a young woman with perky tits. what do you want!
mircea_popescu: sometimes i suspect i might be the most tolerant of women fellow that ever lived or something.
ben_vulpes: pashtun << not so much ethnic as "don't talk to cops. seriously, don't fucking talk to cops. furthermore, beat up anyone you see talking to cops."
asciilifeform: mmmmhmmm
ben_vulpes: "also wouldja re-zip-tie that vagrant that tried to get in last night, bob won't be by with the export wagon for another 2 days"
ben_vulpes: but yes, i would rather live in bootstrapped country squalor in plastic domes than most us cities.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: remind me specifically why geodesic
asciilifeform: i mean, it makes sense in a pressure hull
asciilifeform: on, e.g., mars.
asciilifeform: but why here on planet3.
asciilifeform: (i can think of one reason)
ben_vulpes: shortwave for the blockchain, solar panels for time-arbitraged electricity, hole of car batteries for storage
ben_vulpes: the linked dome has an astonishingly low part number, and readily available feedstock.
ben_vulpes: is waterproof by construction
ben_vulpes: (skin as frame)
ben_vulpes: but i'd hope to only use that for bootstrapping.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'punked' ? << yes
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> bowstrig-propelled-grenade ? << Rambo
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: predator?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is for the first time in like a decade i ever remotely felt like visiting that place. << All Cascadians coalesce to Jewish culture
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: ? Wasn't bow grendade Rambo First Blood part 2?
ben_vulpes wouldn't know, not particularly well versed
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: That's because Cascadia isn't real 'Murica
BingoBoingo: Also why not swap the car batteries for Chicom FeNi battery bank while one can still be had
BingoBoingo: Or do you want night time geodesic civilization to have an expiration date?
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ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: all parts will likely need scavenging into existence
BingoBoingo: Or... You get them rather soon-ish
BingoBoingo: brb, homesteading
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: d'you have a minute to answer shiva questions?
ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
ben_vulpes: << press genesis_fixed, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, rename tinyscheme to shiva, recompile yes? asciilifeform phf ^^
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( )
ben_vulpes: also i suppose polarbeard?
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asciilifeform: << only if you really wantvto build from the pedigree bridge
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 20:40:43; ben_vulpes: tinyscheme still needs renaming to shiva, correct?
asciilifeform: (there is no actual reason to do this more than once per lifetime)
asciilifeform: normally you ought to use the shiva i posted and its bugfix.
asciilifeform: when we get a turingcomplete vtron, i will regrind all of my works
asciilifeform: so that this kind of confusion can go away.
ben_vulpes: so i should be able to leave the tinyscheme dir as tinyscheme? or am i screwing up royally in that my patch applications don't result in a shiva dir?
asciilifeform: !s from:asciilifeform pedigree bridge
assbot: 4 results for 'from:asciilifeform pedigree bridge' :
asciilifeform: !s pedigree bridge
assbot: 15 results for 'pedigree bridge' :
asciilifeform: PLEASE stop trying to press shiva from tinyscheme-bridge folks !!!!11
ben_vulpes: << i am failing to turn this thread into usable actions
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 00:37:21; phf: i can't figure out which patches are actually shiva patches. there's "(EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva." and then sometime after there's "Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge."
assbot: Logged on 21-02-2016 00:38:02; asciilifeform: << this and this only.
ben_vulpes: yeah, staring at it
assbot: [BTC-dev] Shiva bug fix. ... ( )
asciilifeform: nm wrong link wtf
ben_vulpes: so to recap: tinyscheme_genesis, tinyscheme_snip, repl_fix, and then flag_bug_fix?
assbot: [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Introducing: Shiva. ... ( )
asciilifeform: then the bugfix.
asciilifeform: leave tinyscheme genesis alone.
asciilifeform: 1) press a trb
asciilifeform: 5) ??? 6) profit
ben_vulpes: thank you for the very explicit directions, asciilifeform .
asciilifeform off to meatspace for a spell.
ben_vulpes: before you bail
ben_vulpes: was i not to interpret "rebake using the correct v-tron" as "supercedes previous missive"?
asciilifeform: where is this?
assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes, CORRECTED; -and- Shiva Pedigree Bridge. ... ( )
ben_vulpes: Apply the pedigree bridge path, re-name the directory to shiva, and you get
ben_vulpes: the very same. <<
asciilifeform: this is correct, but it supersedes prev version of ~ts genesis~
ben_vulpes: should have communicated to me that 201 did not supercede 198
asciilifeform: not shiva !!!
asciilifeform: i will explain, hopefully for the last time,
asciilifeform: ts gnesis has
asciilifeform: same rel to shiva as
asciilifeform: 0.5.3 cutter had to chicken.
asciilifeform: it was a forced misery because gnudiff can't rename motherfucking files.
asciilifeform: nor delete.
asciilifeform: makes sense ?
ben_vulpes: i believe so, yes.
ben_vulpes: have fun in meatspace, i'll derp through it.
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ben_vulpes: #>(btc-get-best-height)
ben_vulpes: 399924
ben_vulpes: ^^ nifty, asciilifeform! thanks for bearing with my thickness.
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mircea_popescu: nice ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: and omfg fleanode spam!
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mircea_popescu: !up hsmiths
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ben_vulpes and everyone else into supercute de-windows-ization :
assbot: #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-02-27 ... ( )
mircea_popescu: (read prior and after, lulzy abounds)
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phf: current take is naive, uses a list of digits for presentation and a mul/shift/add approach to multiplication. mostly a poc
phf: i'd like to read knuth chapters for a bit, but aocp warez is surprisingly awful. torrents of pdf scans without table of contents (!!!) and people in comments going "thanks for most useful books evaa!!!". does anybody actually tried using this shit?
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phf: knuth actually made a version with working crosslinks and table of contents and such, but those cost as much as the printed version and are "personalized". i take it nobody bothered getting rid of watermark and publishing it, or i can't find a copy anyway
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BingoBoingo: That complete lack of assumptions is very impressive
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mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo
ben_vulpes: satoshi bless the noobs, for they bring lulz and drama.
ben_vulpes: quite the netsplit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously though it is far more refreshing than YAJE, Yet Another Jackoffscript Evangelist
mircea_popescu: guy's actually pretty good, found/fixed small cracks in the wiki etc
BingoBoingo: Maybe point him at TRB documentation after he's done fixing Eulora?
mircea_popescu: lol. may be a long while, eulora took the crown for "most broken republican codebase" sometime this year i think
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb
gribble: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2813.01, vol: 38011.01690000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2813.01
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BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp
gribble: Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 305.466957, vol: 4200.03059766 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 305.322777, vol: 4186.21487 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 311.4288, vol: 0.46043058 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 308.70326, vol: 38805.73280000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 314.11996, vol: 1.1587369 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 307.32, vol: 44.85189837 | Volume-weighted last average: 308.114787885
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 422.36, vol: 4208.70566845 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 423.201, vol: 4184.74036 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 422.99, vol: 16453.42615972 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 432.0, vol: 0.46043058 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 428.347821, vol: 38843.33320000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 425.64999, vol: 490.41688409 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 426.348, vol: 44.85189837 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 426.22555256
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp?
ben_vulpes: i thought we considered that glass left on the floor for barefoot burglars
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assbot: 2015 IRS Breach Estimate Revised Upwards To 720,000 Records | Qntra ... ( )
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ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess i'm just going to add "this is good for fiat" comments from now on.
phf: ben_vulpes: depends on what you're trying to do
mircea_popescu: by 2020 or so, if i do at least 10-20k a day, we might be caught up
ben_vulpes: phf: i don't quite know yet. i'm just barely a code-technician, creativity and imagination's another 5-7 years off for me.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: lol
ben_vulpes afk for a bit, if not the eve
ben_vulpes: phf: mebbe rewrite the syncing loop?
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mircea_popescu: there's the box, and there's the chess.
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phf: ben_vulpes: so the way thing works right now, is that when you connect a new instance of scheme runtime is created, which is then fed init.scm and connected to the network stream fd. right now the pattern that we have is from inside a running instance you can call out into trb and make it do things
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phf: ben_vulpes: in order to support any sort of rewrite of existing code, need to figure out how to have scheme runtime created at bitcoind start and that runtime allowing for reentry
phf: which requires a better understanding of how ts's stack work, or perhaps figuring out how to make multiple scheme instances share same oblist or something
phf: i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http
ben_vulpes: > allowing for reentry << bleeee
ben_vulpes: okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans
phf: also the whole thing is not thread safe...
phf: but then i also tend to overthink things, for all i know there's a perfectly trivial solution to all things
ben_vulpes: hey phf
ben_vulpes: how bout dem clang scripts
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phf: well, i can give you half baked version ;)
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ben_vulpes: #> (btc_connections)
ben_vulpes: dash/hyphen conventions alive, ^^ asciilifeform, phf, mod6_, mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: s/alive/aside
ben_vulpes: nifty, phf!
phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make
ben_vulpes: v. cool
ben_vulpes: yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike
phf: well, after my eulora travails i can trivially build anything on mac os x with homebrew (thanks mp!), in this case there's not even a need to fuck around since b-a approved versions of dependencies have brew formulas for them
ben_vulpes: you're a real rubro now phf!
ben_vulpes: anyways, rather neet. looking forward to shortening my loop up.
ben_vulpes: i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke
phf: i'm going to have some kefir and decompress from the day
phf: i might even produce some instructions for a heathen build using brew/clang/cmake
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mircea_popescu: phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite.
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