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BingoBoingo: Eh, it was one of those masked hero movies so if he didn't die and asked for too much money they could have replaced him.
BingoBoingo: But he was the bad guy just as he is when he does drag as rachel.
BingoBoingo: trinque: How was the up and down?
trinque: pretty great; my tmux session now supports utf8 hieroglyphs
trinque: oh working out, good as well
trinque: plenty of eye candy over there; I did various machine press, curls, that weighted rowing machine
trinque: focusing on the things I've neglected sitting at a keyboard too long
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
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BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 388.072157846
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1319015 << here's to wishing our newly made 'orange revolutionary' a speedy meeting with headzoff.com
assbot: Logged on 06-11-2015 23:53:27; punkman: from el reg http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096&cpage=1#comment-237490
asciilifeform: 'Inasmuch as, you are one of the most influent persons in one of the most talented community (Hackers) in the world, I humbly ask you write about Iran and what’s going on there. Please tell the world that Persian people are fight for freedom ....'
trinque: "I’m armed and maintaining Condition Yellow." << bwahahahaha
asciilifeform: 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ?
trinque: so much heavy breathing
asciilifeform: is next condition 'brown' ?
trinque: hopefully his mother is on call for the code brown with fresh undies.
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asciilifeform: where did this go, anyway.
asciilifeform: same place as the hongkong attempt 6 mo. ago, presumably.
asciilifeform: turned out that usg's cia and dept of s. only had so many bag lunches to pass out to idiots sitting and blocking streets
asciilifeform: in hk or teheran or kiev, wherever
asciilifeform: i can almost picture some underground phaktory cranking'em out.
asciilifeform: for the next go-around.
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mircea_popescu: i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
punkman: asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too
assbot: Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kzS4nx )
punkman: oic now " this is the enactment and remambrance ceremony of the female kurdish student Leyla Qasım who was captured, tortured, tried and executed within 20 days in 1974."
mircea_popescu: they gotta have something better than one she-kurd 40 years ago
mircea_popescu: how about 40 kurdettes last year ?
punkman: myeah
assbot: thái: Tales of The Cryptographer ... ( http://bit.ly/1L2omNk )
mircea_popescu: "Keeping in mind that actual stalking has never been dealt with in any significant way ever, the desire of a few female writers to curb online anonymity wouldn't be enough to get an @ mention, except that this happens to coincide with what the media wants, and now we have the two vectors summing to form a public health crisis. "Cyberbullying is a huge problem!" Yes, but not because it is hurtful, HA! no one cares about
mircea_popescu: your feelings-- but because criticism makes women want to be more private-- and the privacy of the women is bad. The women have to be online, they do most of the clicking and receive most of the clicks. Anonymous cyberbullying is a barrier to increasing consumption, it's gotta go."
mircea_popescu: or how giving women money fucks up media for everyone. now they gotta cater to what women want, too, and since what women want is probably somethign stupid and without explosions in it, you get two anodyne fagboys to replace harrison ford, at 1/4 the pay each.
punkman: I feel like I've read that one two dozen times
punkman: !s cyberbullying is a barrier
assbot: 2 results for 'cyberbullying is a barrier' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cyberbullying+is+a+barrier
mircea_popescu: i confess to being slightly obsessed.
mircea_popescu: this entire anonimity bs never made any sense to me
BingoBoingo: "STEM is soooooo last decade. FAG is the new science.Fatminism, Arts and Gender Studies will train a new generation of educated young womyn and allies to compete with the likes of Asia."
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shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 v99998 tests passed all boxes, tested the < 5.12 perl on all then installed proper.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
shinohai: So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ?
mircea_popescu: eh gtfo. you knew dumbass was angling for "celebrity" since day one
mircea_popescu: us "feminism" = wannabe michael moore
mircea_popescu: the fat fag sucked. these harpies ? really, 0 interest, what else is on ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you've got mailz
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 06:51:36; mircea_popescu: i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319176 << when i ran into the linked film, i sorta assumed that something went wrong and at least one of the gallows birds really did hang properly. was very disappointed to learn that this was not so.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 07:21:15; punkman: asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too
asciilifeform: i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ?
asciilifeform: i'm also at least vaguely aware of at least one case where a prisoner arranged to be hanged on a theatrical stage, as part of a performance
asciilifeform: (properly hanged, that is)
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319215 <<< asking those burning questions others dare not ponder ....
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 16:11:21; asciilifeform: i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ?
asciilifeform: (so many puzzles. e.g., is a 'long drop' hanging typically also filmed with a doctored noose? or a dummy ?)
asciilifeform: 'Fareweel, ye dungeons dark and strong, / Fareweel, Fareweel tae thee. / MacPherson's time will nae be lang / On yonder gallows tree. / Sae rantin'ly, sae wantonly / Sae dauntin'ly gaed he / He played a sprig and danced a jig / Below the gallows tree.' (tm) (r)
assbot: Actor playing Judas dies in hanging scene - Chicago Sun-Times | HighBeam Research ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzqSRB )
asciilifeform: 'The character Judas hangs himself in the musical, but the harness protects the actor. Investigators were trying to determine why the man didn't attach it.' << good timez
punkman: I guess the easy way to do it might be a harness around your armpits
asciilifeform: how did they go about, i might ask, 'determining why the man did not attach it' ? with a seance ?
asciilifeform: 'ouija' board ?
assbot: Actor accidentally hangs himself on stage while re-enacting death of Judas Iscariot in Easter play | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzrJ4u )
punkman: another judas :P
punkman: "But the safety vest the actor was wearing under is robe is believed to have risen up across his neck, strangling him. "
punkman: I guess this happens every other year http://www.salon.com/2000/05/08/judas/
assbot: Actor playing Judas accidentally hangs himself - Salon.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szs2MJ )
assbot: Force Flops? Chewbacca arrested in Ukraine after campaigning for Darth Vader - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szt4Z4 )
shinohai: http://thestir.cafemom.com/politics_views/145144/teen_haunted_house_hanging_accident <<< thanks for making me waste the afternoonover tea and morbid subjects asciilifeform
assbot: Teen Haunted House Hanging Accident Was Mistaken for Scary Prop | The Stir ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvDbjf )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319205 << what in the name of beelzebub is a 'crash override' ?
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 14:51:09; punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
asciilifeform: is this a reference to the old AUTOVON 'flash override' button ?
asciilifeform: and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ?
asciilifeform gives up trying to unravel this mystery, goes back to actual wurk
assbot: Autovon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvFRNJ )
punkman: https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy "Some code has an error? Fuck it."
assbot: ajalt/fuckitpy · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvG3fV )
punkman: also known as php
assbot: Logged on 16-05-2014 17:52:50; benkay: fuckit.py
asciilifeform: it is difficult not to be reminded, reading this, of the legends re: icbm cables with differing pin counts being pounded in with a sledge (from ru literature, obviously pertaining to sov rockets, but i'd be surprised if similar legends did not circulate in usa)
punkman: asciilifeform: was answer to what is crash override, but also just remembers it was a nickname of someone in Hackers movie
asciilifeform: was, wasn't it.
punkman: "Crash Override Network is a pro bono support group for victims of large scale online abuse, including revenge porn and doxing."
punkman: and new Star Wars lead is a girl, and she'll probably get bullied at some point
punkman: Disney knows how much stupid shit all the fangirls will buy
assbot: Взгляд изнутри на производство ракетных двигателей » E-news.su ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvGEOB )
punkman: "It's just you and your least favorite child. Come to Arbys. Feed him emulsified beef reformed w meat glue. Watch him slowly die. Arbys."
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PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316031 << The first thing I thought of when I saw this thing was the chairs the people use in the movie "WALL-E"
assbot: Logged on 04-11-2015 18:49:20; pete_dushenski: http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 17:45:53; asciilifeform: (from a very spiffy piece, http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/74282-vzglyad-iznutri-na-proizvodstvo-raketnyh-dvigateley.html concerning motor factory)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i see!
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> with a seance ? << they just ask the other people.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ? << because people keep talking about it as if it were important. and so what the hell's the difference.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spiffy commentary on ye olde broadcast !
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ytou ever found that tlp where he says "x derp is just there because the seat existed" ?
mircea_popescu: now I fucking need it too.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 00:26:51; mircea_popescu: "If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover
mircea_popescu: kept googling for biedermeyer
asciilifeform throbs memory biceps
mircea_popescu: updated a little that real/fake article from yest.
mircea_popescu: funny how this happens, on perhaps 1% of articles, i actually want to add more stuff in the morning.
asciilifeform also does this.
asciilifeform brb, playing with pet
deedbot-: [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/
mircea_popescu: "There should be no controversy: a guy should never tell a girl he's going to rape her, online or not, kidding or not." umm,... and whence doth that should come from ? what nonsense is this, anyway ?
mircea_popescu: it's not that there should be no controversy THIS way. There should be, and really there is not, any controversy the other way. ~Some guys~ SHOULD tell a girl they'll rape her. If they don't, how are you to stand out ? And "girls" in the general must be convinced in their bones that either they put out with their choice or get collectively raped by everyone. This part seems to work okay, anyway.
mircea_popescu: " there should be no instinct at all to defend such a jerk, and yet----- and yet that is precisely the instinct many people get." << check it out, usg wants monopoly on orcdom now. IT can defend the outcasts so they can terrorize the cattle, i'm not "allowed to" because hey, there can be only one and it can't be me, amirite ?
mircea_popescu: usg gun git raped in the ass.
ben_vulpes: some girls wanna hear it!
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 19:09:55; *: asciilifeform throbs memory biceps
ben_vulpes: (but you know they're weird and perverted etc)
mircea_popescu: and by "Some girls" we mean "the vast majority of human females of reproductive age", but hey, they don't read random derpy us website nobody reads so they don't count\
mircea_popescu: har har tell me more about some film boxxy made.
asciilifeform: l0l how're things in the entomology corps !
asciilifeform: (hey it beats scatology - who am i to talk! i'm writhing in the guts of winblowz kernel presently...)
asciilifeform: in other 'news',
asciilifeform: 'Что тебе снится, крейсер «Аврора», В час, когда утро встаёт над Невой?' (tm) (r)
asciilifeform: http://www.norma40.ru/chd/aur.htm << for musicoarchaeologists only.
mod6: so apparently the 'each' keyword is pretty much to be avoided like the plague.
mod6: i've re-written the traversals of the map for ante & desc and my new changes passed the automated tests.
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mod6: it's only 2 more lines of code really. so it's not a bad solution, and this affords me not to have to require perl 5.12 or greater.
mircea_popescu: good idea.
mod6: i've got one more spot in the code to change out 'each'
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mod6: mircea_popescu: yeah, perl v5.005 or whatever has been in use since 98, lot of systems have from that version forward. would be good to support older versions.
mod6: and get away from 'each'.
mod6: anyway, will update later when I get a chance. thx!
mod6: ok, last place of 'each' removed -- only one more line of code required there.
mod6: running automated tests...
mod6: ok everything passed. I'm glad I wrote all of those. makes regression testing on core functionality like this so much easier.
ben_vulpes: TESTS
mod6: shinohai: thanks for doing all that testing on V. looks like I might need another round yet before tomorrow.
ben_vulpes: WRITE MOAR TESTS
mod6: I'll try to chat you up later tonight.
mod6: ben_vulpes: indeed.
ben_vulpes: "my only job around here is to scowl loudly at bad commits and demand more tests" - $bzprtnr
asciilifeform: 'test can prove the presence of bugs, but never their absence' -- vladimir ilich knuthikstra
ben_vulpes: i think you may have even cited that before
asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, that xv6 thing actually builds without any massage whatsoever, and... runs
asciilifeform: remarkably slowly, even for an emulated thing
asciilifeform: no cache.
asciilifeform: but passes the author's testatron (included)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: they have their place. i find it convenient to have tests when rewriting large swaths of a thing either i've written: with the behavior codified, i don't have to manually poke at the thing to ensure that it still behaves the way it did before i tore it apart and put it back together.
asciilifeform not a principled opponent of testatrons
asciilifeform: but it is not a substitute for knowing wtf you're doing
asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's article on 'exam takers'
ben_vulpes: yes yes
asciilifeform: for anybody else who is considering an evening of playing with xv6, some notes:
asciilifeform: 1) you don't have to use the serial console. the thing includes basic text term and kbd handler.
asciilifeform: 2) if you have 64-bit qemu because you're an old osdev junkie, qemu-system-x86_64 -smp 2 -m 512 -hda xv6.img -hdb fs.img instead of the makefile's runner.
asciilifeform: 3) mighty slow, because the thing actually prods the disk every time you file
mircea_popescu: define slow.
asciilifeform: hundreds of msec to fopen()
asciilifeform: sorta like msdos on a 8086
asciilifeform: i haven't tried to plant the thing on iron, as of yet. nor do i know whether the author has.
mircea_popescu: so basically like ipad with ios 9?
asciilifeform: leaving this for other folks here.
asciilifeform does not have this machine, cannot comment
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes ^^ ?
asciilifeform: moar like win95 with 8MB of ram
asciilifeform: but why ruin appetites.
asciilifeform: but yes, it is a unix, in about 200kB of src.
asciilifeform: and it can also 'compile' to... book
asciilifeform: (contains pagebreak comments)
asciilifeform: (iirc minix also did)
mircea_popescu: 200kb is just about a book
asciilifeform: the principal difference between this and actual sys6 is that a) written in ansi, rather than k&r c b) ab initio, for x86 b) ab initio for multiple processors, which actually simplifies threading & locking
asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
ben_vulpes: how does the ipud figure into this?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i think he meant it as an example of slow box ?
ben_vulpes: more like iphone 4s with ios 9
assbot: Loper OS » Going Nowhere Really Fast, or How Computers Only Come in Two Speeds. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OVhuca )
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ? << Remember that series of films where she went from a spy to a public figure holding fucking glowsticks on a movie poster?
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Minuscule Crab of Doom and the Sympathetic Spool of Drool - an endlessly complex machine to shred your dreams to pixie dust! - http://trilema.com/2015/the-minuscule-crab-of-doom-and-the-sympathetic-spool-of-drool-an-endlessly-complex-machine-to-shred-your-dreams-to-pixie-dust/
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ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qb878w )
asciilifeform: eh not starving yet.
asciilifeform: might have to work at a kitten recycling plant tho
asciilifeform: survivable.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what, by the way do you mean by "web work"?
ben_vulpes: anything touching the request/response cycle? apis etc?
asciilifeform: roughly, anywhere asm is never a thing.
ben_vulpes: our conversation the other night. "wot suggests i..."
asciilifeform: oh and that pic is pure win.
assbot: How to Be a Communist (with Pictures) - wikiHow ... ( http://bit.ly/1S7fCuS )
asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
asciilifeform: this is rather like reading an article 'how to become a nazi' and therein reading that you gotta gas ~yourself~ with zyklon
thestringpuller: asciilifeform ain't starvin!
thestringpuller: he probably shops at whole foods
asciilifeform: partial foods.
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ben_vulpes: so my father managed a gentleman who'd moved from the soviet block many years ago. the man walks into my fathers office one day, asks for some privacy to talk about american things. "in odessa, we put children out to nap. cold air, is good for little lungs! anyways," hands my father a letter, "what is this 'child protective services?"
ben_vulpes: "oh, they'll take your children away if you don't conform to us norms."
ben_vulpes: "child was completely wrapped! not a big deal!"
ben_vulpes: "you don't understand. they. will. take. your. children."
asciilifeform: wrapped ?
ben_vulpes: "this is worse than russia! even kgb would not take children...my wife will never go along..."
ben_vulpes: wrapped up, bundled, swaddled, generally speaking insulated from the cold.
asciilifeform: clearly fella doesn't read ru fishwraps or even blogz
ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this was a decade or three ago.
asciilifeform: this kind of usgistic rape has its advocates in ru, and they are - correctly - beaten on the streets or wherever found
asciilifeform: one of the points on which ru is the last bastion of sanity in the white man's world
ben_vulpes: the west may have been brought under dominion of the feds with marriage laws, but the whole country is dominated by CPS.
asciilifeform: ... and the divorce-theft courts, etc.
asciilifeform: don't forget the 'child support'/alimony apparatus
ben_vulpes: eh, only of the untermenschen.
ben_vulpes: and truly stupid (sort of) monied.
asciilifeform: i personally knew a fella who wasn't the least bit 'unter' who got rolled up.
ben_vulpes: more of a tool of wives and mothers than the state and snitches though, isn't it?
asciilifeform: didja know that an engineer's spermatozoa cost 5x moar to raise to adulthood than a slum bunny's ?
asciilifeform: at least according to usg.
ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it's usg that garnishes the wages, and then cuts the cheques (minus a vig)
asciilifeform: so it is quite unlike a normal civil judgement in usa
ben_vulpes: if your wages are subject to garnishment you *are* unter.
asciilifeform adjusts arse broomstick
asciilifeform trims jets
ben_vulpes: yes, shielding assets is hard and not for everyone.
asciilifeform: as far as i'm concerned, it is something that is done by martians, on mars.
asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
asciilifeform: pony up, or jail.
asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
asciilifeform: his 'wages' couldn't be garnished, either, or so he thought.
asciilifeform: ('collectivized', gulaged, drunk invalids took over, burned it down.)
asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will have to play him
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha!
asciilifeform: ... if everybody were a mongol warrior, no one could be dekulakized !
ben_vulpes: i am actually pondering approaches to collectivize the thing ahead of the horde.
asciilifeform: (except that there'd be nothing for these virile fellas to plunder. they'd be stuck fucking own cows)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aha that's precisely that he did
ben_vulpes: who became the new 'owners'?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: hired invalids from the war to run the mill, to 'collectivize ahead of the herd'
asciilifeform: they drunkenly burned it, and he answered for it.
asciilifeform: (or so goes the tale)
ben_vulpes: why'd he have to hire invalids?
asciilifeform: didn't ~have~ to
asciilifeform: but thought it would stave off the inevitable transfer to the 'deserving'
asciilifeform: complicated.
asciilifeform: but end result - same.
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2015 15:54:26; mircea_popescu: tru to life too. "he tried to make the trains wear out the rail!"
ben_vulpes: sounds a lot like "don't work with people outside of your wot" to me.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: gotta understand, you can't appease mice, rats, lice.
asciilifeform: they want it all.
asciilifeform: ~especially~ whatever it is you haven't given up yet.
asciilifeform: not aiming to drive ben_vulpes to the bottle, so i'll not elaborate examples. but i think it is clear.
BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
ben_vulpes tempted to drink already.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: at the risk of strengthening ben_vulpes's drink, must point out, that the disease is not likely to take this particular form
asciilifeform: usg's present direction is the one where the shop keeper is made to answer for various usgistic misfortunes suffered by his staff (e.g., 'obamacare')
BingoBoingo: So what you are saying is ben_vulpes is hitting the scotch tonight
asciilifeform: i'd recommend the bong, to better 's-a-incadrat-in-colectiv'
BingoBoingo: As answering these misfortunes might soon lower his future booze to "Country Club" vodka and Thunderbird
assbot: Cum s-a incadrat in colectiv ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlvJEE )
asciilifeform: вписатся в коллектив to those of us in east orcland
asciilifeform: in other lulz,
assbot: Edward Snowden interview with Dagens Nyheter - DN Fokus ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlw7mF )
BingoBoingo: I dunno that bong can quite relieve existential dread in the same way drink does
asciilifeform: 'In 2007, FBI agents carried out so-called morning raids at the homes of people who worked or had worked at the NSA, and had tried to blow the whistle on a mass surveillance program they felt had gotten out of control. One man was dragged out of the shower in his home, a gun to his head, in front of his family. Another man opened his door and soon had the house full of black-clad agents in Kevlar vests searching his home until
asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who was investigated and pros
asciilifeform: ecuted, after trying to talk to his superiors about the mass surveillance, was himself.'
asciilifeform: ^ lulzy and, iirc, factual.
BingoBoingo: interesting
ben_vulpes: bong amplifies existential dread
asciilifeform: 'A woman at the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives had her house raided by the FBI at six o’clock in the morning, because she’d asked questions about the program.'
asciilifeform: this is part of why it is difficult to take mr s seriously as anything other than a disinfo plant
asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
asciilifeform: and wouldn't remain a u.s. subject
asciilifeform: (or what, they won't process his renunciation in moscow ?)
asciilifeform: not even a very good fake
asciilifeform: (a good fake would fake a renunciation so we wouldn't be asking this question)
asciilifeform: phakt: a ru citizen is not extraditable, his removal would be an act of war.
asciilifeform: actual sovereign coutriez, they sorta exist !
BingoBoingo: Well, to renounce he'd have to go to the embassy or consulate where he'd be subject to arrest
asciilifeform: can't renounce by mail ?
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asciilifeform: and technically you can rid yourself of u.s. citizenship in a few other ways
asciilifeform: (join a foreign army, take office, etc)
asciilifeform: blackshirts will still take shots at him given half a chance, but renouncing would be a gesture in line with the overall theme of the play
asciilifeform: the absence is conspicuous.
asciilifeform: fact is, mr s (or, if you prefer, the character he is playing) has emphatically ~not~ 'set the bozo bit' on usg.
BingoBoingo: can't renounce by mail, and the other ways still require US Dept State to recognize the invalidating act and bill Mr. S
asciilifeform: believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now.
assbot: US Increases Fee to Relinquish Citizenship and Residency | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXjEFd )
BingoBoingo: So yes, US requires "certifying" you did a citizenship disqualifying act
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the hit squad gives a damn whether 'citizen' or not
asciilifeform: but the ~symbol~.
asciilifeform: what are we to make of the derping re: 'returning to usa for fair trial' ?
BingoBoingo: Of course, but getting the symbol means delivering self to the hit squad
asciilifeform: symbol would be, e.g., putting on a ru uniform and joining army
asciilifeform: and on microphone to say 'i hope i get to be the one to glass ft meade'
asciilifeform: and very much ~not~, e.g., screwing around with 'aclu' and whatever else was described in that rag.
BingoBoingo: Like Assange's refusal to enter shipping container as "diplomatic package"
asciilifeform: eh, how do you know where the container's going.
asciilifeform: enter, come out legs first.
BingoBoingo: Well, he'd have to hope for ecuador
mircea_popescu: lol increased yet again ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: cia prolly pre-dug a hole in ec for him
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: (or hero's welcome, as you please)
BingoBoingo: What other hero's welcome is there?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the kind where the mask comes off
BingoBoingo: Oh apparently torrent infrastructure Hearnia'd brb, writing up
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319358 << wait, isn't this a 100% solution to problems ? there is no rule you must address disk as "disk", it can just be ram.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:16:04; asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: box has actual disk for a reason ?
mircea_popescu: fuck that. this works with ram only.
asciilifeform: a la my buildroot ?
mircea_popescu: exctly a la your buildroot.
jurov: bash flushed
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319367 << you don't understand how the revolution work.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:28:31; ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
asciilifeform: the way it works is,
asciilifeform: 'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic)
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 21:34:16; asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
mircea_popescu: who are these schmucks ?
asciilifeform: wikipedos
asciilifeform: or whoever.
mircea_popescu: they're like.... annoying 50s housefrau. "do whatever you will but don't go naked!111"
mircea_popescu: yeah right. aren't you due at some perm salon or something ?
asciilifeform: approx.,
asciilifeform: 'no need have i of mercy, / no need have i of laurels, / but let me have a rifle, / and let me have a horse, / and if i chance to perish, / let my red platoonmates, / let my red platoonmates,/ make'em pay, of course.'
asciilifeform: s/pay'em back/make'em pay
asciilifeform: or rather the reverse
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:04:24; ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
mircea_popescu: in general, if you aim to raise children it's a bad idea to pick the nation of idiots.
ben_vulpes: oh, now we like to compete in crowded markets?
mircea_popescu: children don't compete. that's the thing with childhood,
mircea_popescu: and why communism is the ideology of the retarded.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:08:46; ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed"
asciilifeform: let's have the coordinates of the shangri-la without idiots
mircea_popescu: no, that's not it. "you want kids, you live with the niggers. that's where the kids factory is. i commute to mine, you commute to yours."
mircea_popescu: that way the manner she's accustomed will be correctly calibrated.
mircea_popescu: it's unhealthy to raise kids in YOUR means anyway. especially daughters, but in general.
mircea_popescu: let them earn their own.
asciilifeform: imperial ru army
asciilifeform: (but they didn't do daughters)
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mircea_popescu: it's the manner in the civilised world (aka "eastern europe" in some sources). i suppose i should fish for this.
assbot: Old texts on traditional marriage ; vampirism and gayety. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhKgnE )
mircea_popescu: kyra kyralina does hold some valuable etnofolkloric information.
mircea_popescu: "Let me tell you a little of "traditional marriage". The traditional marriage of the Greekxiii works like so : the married woman, and her children, keep house in the castle. The married man, with his apprentices, keeps a workshop somewhere in the workshop quarters, outside the walls. He has an older woman there who cooks, because the apprentices are entitled to be fed by the master. The man visits the woman occasionall
mircea_popescu: y, to beat her, to fuck her, to talk to her. Depending on how close they are, and marriages go through phases anyway. Some husbands may sleep with the woman, some may sleep at the workshop, some may alternate. And marriages go through phases anyway. The woman may not visit her husband. The kids do not generally get to, except boys of sufficient age, if the father even likes them at all. Which isn't that much of a given
mircea_popescu: . Girls in no case do." of interest here.
asciilifeform: hey my colleagues almost run this way
mircea_popescu: this is how the world works, africans and their huts notwithstanding.
asciilifeform: i don't think anybody cancelled this.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck else.
asciilifeform: (minus the old woman)
mircea_popescu: from the chuka to the somali pirates, everyone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw it explains the unpopularity of 'telecommute' scheme in usa
asciilifeform: nobody pays working schmucks enough to keep two huts
asciilifeform: and they'd have to
mircea_popescu: as tlp wel lpoints out, it's not that "work" invades the home. is that you need the blinker for existential support.
mircea_popescu: or as george points out, "you take tv out of this relationship, it is just murder"
mircea_popescu: but hey, "mancave", right ?
asciilifeform: or don't marry faceless broad
mircea_popescu: why the fuck isn't it "cuntpit" i wanna know.
asciilifeform: they don't build pits, only colonize ?
asciilifeform: like cuckoo ?
mircea_popescu: eh no they don't.
asciilifeform: anyway the whole pit/cave system never quite made sense to me
asciilifeform: woman is right here in the 'cave' with me. like tank crew, silently doing the right thing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
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asciilifeform: 'Update: The YTS.to domain was just signed over to the MPAA.'
assbot: MPAA Can Access Popcorn Time Services & VPN, Court Rules - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhLP51 )
asciilifeform: 'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ?
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assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:11:34; asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
mircea_popescu: considering the jailing costs more than the alimony.
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:10:55; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ?
mircea_popescu: so in what sense is this woman a woman ?
mircea_popescu: not in the sense herein contemplated.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
mircea_popescu: which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE.
mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who
mircea_popescu: but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
mircea_popescu: for YEARS.
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mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease.
assbot: Logged on 07-11-2015 23:05:41; asciilifeform: believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now.
mircea_popescu: heck, most soviet kids believed in "better soviet"
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mircea_popescu: ;;ticker
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trinque: mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far.
kakobrekla: currently i make log dumps on request
trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla plox to have a dump, ima vdiff it with my local logs, pack it and hash/sign
mircea_popescu: trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed
kakobrekla: one fat txt file ?
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mircea_popescu: "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00054249 = 12.9384 BTC [-]
asciilifeform: intel hyperthreading lawsuit when.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 << this will be a reasonably-mechanized thing with gossip
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
asciilifeform: ('reasonably mechanized', note, does not mean 'fully automatic')
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
mircea_popescu: rats swim.
asciilifeform: ah yes.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319611 << who wants to watch this porn? wouldn't this be a bit like turning'em into sausages ?
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:22:48; mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
mircea_popescu: here's a secret : most porn produced today is not actually made for anyone to watch.
mircea_popescu: sort-of like books published.
asciilifeform: and we need moar of this for something?
mircea_popescu has genuinely seen this, "you got a cam, something ? i feel kinda weird going at it without anything"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we don't need it, they do
asciilifeform: how's this work? picture a public beheading with... a studio audience ?!
trinque: this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig...
trinque: some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter
asciilifeform: imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ?
asciilifeform: as in, an actually sentient one
trinque: I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date
trinque: no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public"
asciilifeform: this might be an advanced matter of mircea_popescutronics that i am grossly unequipped to reason about.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened".
mircea_popescu: the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?"
mircea_popescu: that's why you don't kill the us president so the vp can take over.\
mircea_popescu: you kidnap it and transexual operation.
mircea_popescu: "this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!"
asciilifeform: wake me up when.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares about a guy. certainly not the other guys just like him.
mircea_popescu: trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings.
mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
mircea_popescu: trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113119 @ 0.00054854 = 62.0503 BTC [+] {7}
mircea_popescu: anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do".
mircea_popescu: also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point.
assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00055024 = 17.9928 BTC [+] {4}
mircea_popescu: and from tlp :
mircea_popescu: Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important
mircea_popescu: and less accessible-- except through Us Weekly.
mircea_popescu: But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi
mircea_popescu: th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!"
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BingoBoingo: !up archStanton
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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319668 << successful extermination is more educative still
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
asciilifeform: in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
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punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc)
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
trinque: yep, I think asciilifeform has it, that it'd be something to build around gossipd
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
asciilifeform: damnatio ad bestias (tm) (r)
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 00:02:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
punkman: enjoyed the quality while it lasted, if only they did more old movies
asciilifeform: warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing.
asciilifeform: (yet the umpteenth reason why gossipd is a weapon of the apocalypse)
punkman: well I don't know anyone that scans books or rips movies
asciilifeform: sure you do
asciilifeform scans bookz
asciilifeform would scan yet moar bookz if he had with whom to trade
asciilifeform: see, warez traditionally works as a trade thing
punkman: and how do you trade bookz with a lot of people? you go to bookzz dot org
punkman: (actually a thing if anyone's not familiar with it)
asciilifeform: that's 'silk road' thinking.
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punkman: other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm3iWY )
asciilifeform: 'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: “My life — the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food
asciilifeform: and clothing.”'
asciilifeform: y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers
asciilifeform: but it turns out, there's a ready list !
punkman: many
asciilifeform: 'never would be missed!' (tm) (r) (mikado)
punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
assbot: Amazon and eBay 'liable' if they ignore VAT fraud - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXACn0 )
BingoBoingo: "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
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assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.0005421 = 31.7942 BTC [-] {3}
assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5RZi )
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax
assbot: Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
asciilifeform: (i.e. reporting any user who nets, iirc, > 600 usd/yr)
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